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Gas Prices Surge To Highest Ever On This Day At Fastest Pace In Four Years

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Despite being weeks away from the start of the driving season proper, gas prices - at the pump - have been surging recently. With premium now over $4 nationwide (over $5 in SoCal - up 25 days in a row), this is the most expensive gas has ever been for the second week in February despite gasoline being relatively well supplied. Gasoline futures have ripped higher as unplanned maintenance, refinery closings, and rising crude oil prices (seemingly more central bank liquidity-driven than middle-east tensions) have impacted wholesale price expectations (and thus retail). The 44c rise is the fastest in four years and the year-to-date surge over 12% (outpacing stocks) is almost four times faster than average. What is more worrisome is the fact that seasonally the next month or two are when the biggest price spikes occur - which coupled with the tax-hike drag, will inevitably eat into people's spending habits and sentiment.

Gas Prices at the pump are the highest on record for this time of year...

 

With the last month seeing the biggest rise in almost four years...

 

and far in excess of the average seasonal shift - which is set to start...

 

And in Southern California, $5 gas prices are now the norm!!

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 


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Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Unexpected.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Walkin' in LA?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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RoboTrader is.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:12 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Buying new Diapers, and laughing at Z/H... He knows the shitstorm is coming. (Robo Tard)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@LH

~~~

Nice 'double entendre'... [because Robo is, in fact]:

- a MISSING PERSON

- & prolly 'Walking in LA' as we speak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_UpLtGEWoY

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment Talleyrand
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Or jackin' it in San Diego.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment true brain
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"the biggest price spikes occur - which coupled with the tax-hike drag, will inevitably eat into people's spending habits and sentiment."

 

Spending habits and sentiment: you're kidding right. How about eating habit? The relentless, merciless decline in oil productiion will be too obvious in the next few years and people will worry about food not spending on chinese made junks. Peak oil is here. but wait, shale oil and canadian sand oil will save us all. Then why is the price stubbornly around $100 a barrel. Hmm.

 

The good news is that Tibetans will soon have their freedom back.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment fourchan
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but ben sayz there aint no inflation. i dont get it?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Enslavethechild...
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Five dollars a gallon is nothing. Wait till the price starts to go up. Fifty dollar a gallon gas is right around the corner.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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$50/gallon from a black marketeer ... 20% water in the gas.

 

(Already a daily occurance in Yemen, America's model country.)

 

Gas should cost $1,500 per gallon, its worth measured in human labor. Nobody would waste gas @ that price.

 

Nobody would burn a Picasso to keep warm.

 

Don't worry, Mr Economy will crash and take the boo-boo away. Oops! Won't have a job, no job-no money at all. 50 cent gas may as well cost $1,500. 

 

That's how the paradigm works: energy deflation ... coming to a suburb near you.

 

Peak oil is a bitch.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:31 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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 I insist that the U.S. Treasury print even larger batches of debt so that the Federal Reserve can purchases an even larger % of them in secondary markets from primary dealer banking entities than it is already purchasing, in response to rising energy, oil and gasoline prices.

 

--Dr. Paul Krugman, Ph.D. in the most fail-dismal science

Emeritus Douchebag

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:35 | Link to Comment giggler123
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Yep Dr. Paul Krugman has a PHD in home economics - That's cooking to me and you!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Higher energy, oil & gasoline prices are highly stimulative to the economy (just ask consumers & most businesses), and as such, one can only hope that they head much, much higher, especially at a time of real wage declines, extremely high real unemployment and underemployment, and increased taxation.

Real inflation good.

Real deflation bad.

No matter what. Forever & ever.

Dogma.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 21:44 | Link to Comment Enslavethechild...
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You could raise minimum wage to $100 an hour and it wouldn't stop this ship from sinking.

Because only 1 in 100 people have a job.

This ship is going down.

Man the lifeboats

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Fredo Corleone
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"You didn't refine that."

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  She was a hottie in her day.  francis_sawyer. I'm Australian, and have been very open with my intentions.  Cali can fall into the Pacific for all I care.  I LOVE MY FAMILY, AND THAT IS THE ONLY TIE TO THAT SHITHOLE!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment scam_MERS
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Meanwhile, on the news here in LA last night, there was video of libtard protesters against the Keystone Pipeline...guess they all love the over $5.00 gas here! I saw every kind of loony tune out there: Black families (WTF?), Hippies, Gays, Lesbians, Sierra Club...every envirowacko within a hundred miles of Downtown LA was out protesting.

From the article: "Hundreds of protesters marched on Los Angeles City Hall on Sunday as part of a nationwide demonstration designed to pressure President Obama into rejecting a Canadian pipeline that would bring oil into the United States."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/la-protesters-join-nationwide-campaign-against-canadian-oil-pipeline.html

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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And then they all got in their cars and drove home.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 20:50 | Link to Comment knukles
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And awed and ooowwwed over those beautiful Chemtrails at sunset.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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sounded like a nice place to lay some Willy-Pete

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment secret_sam
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The pipeline isn't going to "bring oil into the United States" so much as "pipe oil THROUGH the United States."

I guess if you think the big oil refineries need more tax money, it's the right plan to support.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:34 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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As if we need an easier way for Canada to sell shitty oil to China so we can deal with the effects of burning it?  This libtard votes for wind and solar.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment GrinandBearit
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Him and and that other bipolar idiot Rasputin.  These morons post the same nonsensical, hystrionic, anti-gold, pro-stock market posts day after day.  The exaggerate everything.  That Rasputin guy has a serious case of sellers remorse... after he sold all his gold at $1100, he's been hammering that board nonstop with anti-gold and anti-silver posts... every single day.  Robot Trader (captain hindsight) cherry picks high flying stocks and post charts everyday too.  These guys have some type of mental problem.  The mods there seem to like it though.

Example: http://wallstreetbear.com/board/view.php?topic=112248&post=411573

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment doomandbloom
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Good thing they are hiking minimum wage.....sorted!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Lore
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...And thousands rally to protest against major pipeline projects.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment walküre
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Good. Building pipelines is not the answer to our unsustainable and insatiable appetite for "cheap" energy.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment hannah
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the pipeline will REMOVE PRODUCT FROM NORTH AMERICA AND DRIVE PRICES UP TO MATCH WORLD PRICES...MAN PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment adr
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Like that matters, we have the highest stockpile of oil and gas in years, yet the price we pay has been skyrocketing. The market is oversupplied yet the price rises.

The only supply and demand fundamental in play is how may Jews want to touch the contract this month, and how much money they need to make back from being long Apple.

A survey could come out showing Americans didn't pump a gallon of gas for a whole week and oil would still shoot up 5%.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment walküre
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oil execs and politicians are colluding with bankers to keep printing their own paycheques until the end of day.

can't come soon enough ... the end of day

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Maybe we don't really have those claimed stockpiles.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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"We" certainly don't. The US military and favored fedgov cronies do. Possession (and control of distrubtion) is the key.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment clymer
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you beat me too it. I was going to say, "who is "we" fool?" (in my "what you talkin' bout willis" accent)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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It's almost as if...the players don't care about the locals

and the eroi is more crude than sweet

People are funny. Most will openly admit that oil companies (and countries addicted) would take advantage of people, destroy their land, hell invade them for their prize but at the same time, have a hard time thinking they would do it to them.  

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment blindfaith
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A wee bit of investigating on your part and you would know that the 'oil' is all to be exported...except for what spills on the gound in the USA.  THE ONLY ones who will benefit are the KOCK BROTHERS. ( spelling is delibert).

So, take your sound bite and disinformational comment and XXXX

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment Lore
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Interesting responses.

- Walküre drinks his Agenda 21 like a good boy, never asking who scripted the Green movement, or why. 
- Hannah thinks competition is stupid. 
- Some people on ZH blame Jews when their shoelace is untied. 

ADR is right.  The price mechanism is broken.  Smart producers will sell to buyers with good credit.  (From a Canadian standpoint, the longer Keystone gets put off, the better.) 

Tell you what, Walküre: Tear down all your pipelines, shut down the refineries, close all your factories, misallocate billions in "carbon tribute" toward ponzi scams like Solyndra, plant organic broccoli and raise a goat in your apartment, watch the skies for Unnatural Global Warming, wave to the Predator Drones, and see if you still feel smug at the end of your life. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment hannah
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competition is stupid....ha! lets raise the costs in the usa to equal the world. bring it on. max the shit out of everything.

hope you have your preps done.....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:29 | Link to Comment Lore
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How does paying a fair price, in a stable currency, and not in IOUs, honoring contracts, and generally living within your means personally and as a nation, constitute "maxing the shit out of everything?" 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 21:43 | Link to Comment clymer
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me thinks you build a good straw man, and are also very very confused

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Lore
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The other guy thinks Americans are somehow entitled to crude at discount prices, paid for with depreciating IOUs.  Words stronger than 'confused' come to mind.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:32 | Link to Comment walküre
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You're exaggerating of course.

Exaggerate to discredit any opponent to the energy lobby. Have you seen the tarsands in Northern Alberta? Do you realize how much energy is required to extract crude from bitumen? Does that still make sense to you once you see the devastation on the land, the pollution of the tailing ponds and the efforts required to dig up and process the tar?

Nobody in their right mind opposes convential oil rigs and using pipelines for transport in general. Ignore the loons. Al Gore is a very dangerous man and how he convinced the world to start trading hot air is still beyond me. It's a racket. China is polluting faster than the West could ever reduce emissions. 25% of carbon emissions are from China. Per capita means jack shit in that regard.

Why aren't we drilling in Alaska's ANWR? That's conventional oil exploration and there's plenty of it. Lybia has supposedly the 2nd largest proven oil reserves in the ground and fairly easy to access. Comparable to the Saudi Ghawar field.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves_in_Libya

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment walküre
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supply is up

demand is down

prices are higher .. just because the cartel needs to keep the lights on

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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yup; no "refinery capacity" intentionally pulled offline...just the same old gouging of people who have to work for a living via their inflexible demand.

SoCal == required commuter hell.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment walküre
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Suburbia is screwed

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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All oil is not created equal.

The old refineries could refine sweet light crude.  Not so much heavier, viscous crude.  So the capacity is "pulled" because it no longer has feedstock.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 19:06 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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not true. Venezuela ships sour crude here to TX & LA refineries that are designed for that grade.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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And that would explain the loss of 2 mmbpd of loss of light sweet capcity in Europe over the past 5 years...

Or the closures of the older refineries in the US northeast...

And why stocks of gasoline are down in the NE, hint, it ain't coming from Europe anymore...

At least you are trying, unlike many here obsessed with conspiratorial ideation...

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment LongBalls
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We are exporting our oil production.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Russia isn't:

 

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/russia-and-former-soviet-union/russian-o...

1.7% oil output decline from Russia in January.  Any declines at all have been rare, but the relevant folks have been waiting for Russia to crack.

Never ever forget, Russia, not Saudi Arabia, is the #1 oil producer.  If they can't hold flow rate, the world will be smashed.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment CrashisOptimistic
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Russia isn't:

 

http://www.kyivpost.com/content/russia-and-former-soviet-union/russian-o...

1.7% oil output decline from Russia in January.  Any declines at all have been rare, but the relevant folks have been waiting for Russia to crack.

Never ever forget, Russia, not Saudi Arabia, is the #1 oil producer.  If they can't hold flow rate, the world will be smashed.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:37 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Like that matters as much.  The election is over, no need to keep the price supressed any longer.  The messiah was reelected!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment 847328_3527
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All those folks who bought a box way out in the 'burbs to save money and commute 50 miles twice a day....

 

Ouch!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment LongBalls
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Don't worry. Wait till you need food.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Ignorance is bliss
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 I thought they were hiking the median wage. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment booboo
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Fuck You Bernanke

(just want to be on record in Zero Hedge archives as saying that, you know for posterity's sake.)

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Floordawg
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Pissing Mersons

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Stock Tips Inve...
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The world economy is moving again. Despite the increase in fuel production in the U.S., prices are also rising. Demand in developing countries through the roof. What can we expect?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment Dingleberry
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Thanks Heli-Ben!!

 

Of course, the idiot masses will blame those greedy bastards at the oil companies.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Mrmojorisin515
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how are ben and the oil companies seperate?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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<--- Blame Bush

<--- Blame speculators

Can't blame Obama, the Choomwagon runs on used cooking oil and weed resin.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Hemp Oil

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Midas
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Yeah, the price of gasoline is starting to hurt, but have you seen the PRICE OF ARUGULA?  Those arugula speculators are starting to piss me off.  Investigation?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Hemp oil cures cancer... Don't tell anyone...

~~~

I just 'replanted' & rowed out my spring arugula for this year... It came from seed pods [which came from plants ~ which came from seedpods] that I grew 5 years ago... aka FREE

I expect a drone strike any minute now...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Hulk
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with arugula roundup...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Roundup = 'Agent Orange'

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 19:44 | Link to Comment Overfed
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Agent Orange is 2,4,D.  Roundup is glyphosate.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 20:31 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Oh child please...

~~~

Pardon me if I don't argue... I'm going to be taking a break to get an aspartame sweetened soda [carefully avoiding the saccharine]...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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Francis,

I am telling Mosonto.  See you at the Supreme Court.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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I'm fucked... With Ginsburg, Breyer, & Kagan I don't stand a chance of it being anything more than a kangajoo court...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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Don't worry, the FDA is on Monsanto's ass. Wait, I have that backwards

Ps. It is funny that arugula is expensive. It is one of the toughest and easiest greens to grow.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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it's a mustard green... Practically a fucking weed...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Why didn't you present us with two choices?

(or did all the oil he bought for the SPR not count as "speculation"?)

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment socalbeach
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<-- blame mostly money printing.

<-- blame mostly peak oil

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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It's a chicken and egg thing. The immediate cause is the money. The long term is reality

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment socalbeach
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Probably should have had choice 2 be "blame mostly peak oil or declining EROEI".  Too late now though.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Still blaming Bush, when drones are shaving you clean....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment JR
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Blame Bush as far as the oil companies are concerned but they hardly can be separated from the speculators. Consider this angle.

Robert Lenzner, Forbes staff, wrote a year ago, 2/27/2012, that speculation in crude oil at the time was adding $23.39 to the price per barrel.

Wrote Lenzner: “If there were no speculation in oil futures on commodities exchange, the price of a barrel of oil might be as low as $74.61– not more than the present price of $108.00 a barrel…

“As of February 23, 2012 ‘managed money’ held positions in NYMEX crude oil contracts equivalent to 233.9 million barrels of oil– the equivalent of about one year’s crude oil supply from Iran to Western European nations like France, Belgium, Greece, Italy and Spain.

As Goldman Sachs believes that each million barrels of speculation in the oil futures market adds about 10 cents to the price of a barrel of oil, this means that in theory the speculative premium in oil prices due to speculation is as much as $23.39 a barrel in the price of NYMEX crude oil.

“In turn oil analysts believe that every $10 rise in the price of crude oil translates into a 24 cent rise in the price of gasoline at the pump.   Using the 24 cent rise in the price of gasoline suggests that each dollar increase in a barrel of oil equals about $.56 per barrel.”

“So, if a barrel of crude oil is $23.39 higher because of speculative action in the commodity markets– this translates out into a premium for gasoline at the pump of $.56 a gallon. Since gasoline in the northeast is about $3.68 a gallon, this suggests that without any speculation, the cost of a gallon would be only $3.12, a lot more favorable outcome.” ..

One case in point: “During the summer of 2008 when crude oil per barrel rose to $145 a barrel, the  peak cost of a gallon of gasoline was at least $4.11. As prices skyrocketed gasoline usage declined, bringing down speculation, and thus the price of crude oil and gasoline.  George Soros, hedge fund operator, took a massive short position in crude oil at $137 a barrel, and profited when the price subsequently fell.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/2012/02/27/speculation-in-crude-oil-adds-23-39-to-the-price-per-barrel/

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:03 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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It's worth noting that this can easily be applied in reverse, ie., futures contracts artificially suppressing prices.  Gold and silver are pretty obvious examples, but the price of oil crashing back in 2008/09 probably wouldn't not have had that kind of amplitude absent futures contracts.  

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Nobody could have seen it coming. Perfect storm... Peak debt, peak oil, peak shitstorm.

I quoted the same paper written by David Korowicz earlier today.... Trade-Off Financial System Supply-Chain Cross-Contagion: a study in global systemic collapse.

"There is a popular idea that the purchase of financial assets is investment. However, this 'investment' is primarily about re-allocation within the market. Asset values are maintained by sellers finding buyers, market values are maintained by favourable broad market sentiment. Market participants generally take for granted that virtual-to-real asset conversion can occur at will, which is the ultimate source of value. Only it is not tested as long as there in general faith in the market for proxy wealth.

If debt deflation were to significantly undermine GDP, or if the cascading effects of a financial collapse (arising from our current predicament) or peak oil were to cause a terminal decline or collapse in GDP, then the future prospects for proxy-to-real asset conversion would collapse."

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:11 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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Here is a link to the pdf file of the paper referenced...  looks like a good read.

http://www.feasta.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Trade-Off1.pdf

 

Love ZH blog ;)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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I had to read it a few times to get my arms around it. "Faith" that one can covert a proxy asset to a real asset is based on a number of other inputs that we also take on faith. Even the concept of a proxy for an asset is missed by most. I mean most realize that the value of their 401k goes up and down with the market, but that's as far as most will ever ponder. Until it is gone, of course. The fact that the house of cards is built on a foundation that requires perpetual growth telegraphs the end, but doesn't provide a date.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment hardcleareye
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I have read it before, just finished reading it again.

I could not help but think about Kyle Bass's insight, with respect to Japan, a MAJOR global hub on many different levels....

I think what you have to realize is when your debts are 24 times your central government’s tax revenue and you have a secular decline in population, and all of the things are finally catching up to you, what happens when you have a debt crisis?” Bass asked. “Your currency collapses.”

http://kylebassblog.blogspot.ca/2013/01/kyle-bass-usdjpy-will-hit-200.ht...

 

He gives it 18 months.....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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Yup. feedback loops will work the same way on the way down as they did on the way up. People don't want to think that way, of course. People want to believe that the good things on the way up were earned and that the unjust will be punished on the way down. We'll all be punished.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:09 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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The part he's incorrect on is that the USD and EUR have "several more years" before they get crushed.  The JPY is a leg of the chair, with the other legs being the EUR, USD, and RMB.  What happens when you take out a leg of a chair? 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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Faith in strangers and proxies is a necessary condition for any advanced society, they cannot exist without it. The law is based on faith in laws, courts, judges, lawyers, and cops. Governments are based on faith in bureaucrats, taxmen, politicians, and taxation itself. Fiat currencies are based on faith (to state the obvious).

What happens when the institutions of Western civilization prove unworthy of trust? Ask any tribesman what happens if you trust a stranger. It is indeed a house of cards.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Silver Bug
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Go back to sleep sheeple. There is no inflation here!

 

http://jimrickards.blogspot.ca/

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment upWising
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That's right.  My TeeVee told me that In-flayshun is "under control."  I believe everthing my TeeVee tells me cuz if it's on TeeVee it's gunna be true.

Now sum stuff in costin' more, like grits, and hog jowls, and NASCAR tickits and the Mrs. says she's spending a whole lot more down at the PigglyWiggly Market but that don't mean there is in-flayshun.  

Once we start sayin' there is in-flayshun, the turrurrists has won!.  Can't have none of that!

And besides, The 10% I give to my TeeVee Preacher ever month ain't gone up, so that you go.  Ain't NO In-FLAYSHUN!  

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Not to worry, we will be energy independent (and a net exporter to boot) by 2020.

/major fucking sarc...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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+1  /funnier than shit sarc

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment From A West Tex...
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I've been focusing on the $GASOline-Thingy:

http://www.westtxtrader.com/GL/index.php

Use what you wish.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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LOL.  nmewn, those down-arrow haters are amusing...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment From A West Tex...
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About time ZeroHedge has taken notice of GASOLINE Prices.

I've been tracking it for the last few weeks.

www.westtxtrader.com/GL/index.php

Take from it what you wish.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:15 | Link to Comment Panafrican Funk...
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UVXY?  Really dude?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment jerry_theking_lawler
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the only reason for the increase in gasoline prices.....its an economic

RECOVERY!!!

/sarc

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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Remember. it's the stock market that's important. Nothing else.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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print more gasoline

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Irelevant
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Print more oil with a high ERoEI. If possible over 100 to 1.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment duo
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for the first time in a long time, I was able to buy diesel at $3.99, while 93 octane was $4.01.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Irelevant
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Diesel in Zurich is 2 CHF/litre, 1.80 euros/litre in Germany, 1.65/litre in Austria, 1.80 euros/litre in Hungary.

Still the roads are packed!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment Jay Gould Esq.
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Aye, but do these drivers travel 80km each way on a daily [ workweek ] basis, as a typical American suburbanite may commute ?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment zuuma
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I think Gas stations should just sell it by the cup.

Now the big signs will say: 

.29 - reg

.31 -super

.33-diesel

 

There.

FIXED!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Slartebartfast
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This is all due to, "refinery maintenance".  LOLOOLOL!!!!!!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 20:35 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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They're 'refining' the euphemisms in the press releases...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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hmmm, wonder what the price of gasoline would have been if not for the exorbitant privelage of being cursed, err, granted reserve currency status?

/rhet. question

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 That was beautiful!  Pseudo Anonym

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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That's nothing, wait when we get higher minimum wages.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment cowdiddly
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Ah you caught that liitle bazooka being pulled out in the state of the union address too eh. Since no one wants a loan and the banks do not care if they lend or not, it is the next tool to get the party rockin so they can pretend they can still pay it back.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment razorthin
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These spikes have always signaled equity tops since 2000.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Don't worry, it's priced in.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Michelle
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And those spikes are encouraged by new shortsellers coming into the market.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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'evil speculators' at it again. Damn!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment DrDre
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The rumors of rising inflation are greatly exaggerated. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Being Free
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kind of like the walmart rumors

Feb. 15, 2013--As with any organization, we often see internal communications that are not entirely accurate, that lack the proper context and represent individual opinions.

http://news.walmart.com/news-archive/2013/02/15/walmart-statement-in-response-to-bloomberg-report-on-sales

riiight!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment DrDre
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Deny, deny, deny, deny and again, deny ... and BTFD!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment Hongcha
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Dear Leader needs to get right on this, after he gets back from his round with Tiger.

He needs to speak to, maybe, opening the door to gay cub scouts?  Lesbian brownies?  It's cookie season, after all.

Dear Leader. we await your word.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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 "Fore!"

~~~

Sincerely,

Your Fearless Teleprompter

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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He doesn't need to yell fore, his balls make it on the fairway every time!

If the SS want to keep their jobs, anyway.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Oddjob was always handy with the shoe wedge...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Sand Wedge. Fixed it for ya.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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"Lesbian brownies" is racist.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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Also free-range and vegan.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...too true, anything to distract, obfuscate and change the subject off of the piss poor economy.

+1

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Plus 1

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Hulk
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They wouldn't do that to us !?!?!?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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   Who is they? Bloomturd want's to build a database.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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The efficient market hypothesis says this is not happening.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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mr. chairman will take care of

The efficient market hypothesis....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment gamera9
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But bullish for the Chevy Volt

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment marathonman
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How dare ZeroHedge run this article. Terrorists.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment Al Capowned
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In the UK its $11.20 a gallon...

Every slave in the UK carries a tube of KY around because they like to lubed before getting financially raped everyday,

70% of that price is tax , Literally getting out the bed in the uK means your going to get financailly raped, dont ever live here if your given a choice.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:14 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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good

Every slave in the UK carries a tube of KY around because...

serves you right!  you let hofjuden into your country and gave them safe heaven in the city of london corporation where they now safely print fiat sterling and  plot their joo nwo.  so stop complaining.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment alex_g
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"In the UK its $11.20 a gallon..."

 

No it's not.  The range is $7.60 to $9.60, depending on grade and location.

 

http://www.petrolprices.com/

 

Unless you're talking about an imperial gallon, which is 5 quarts...not apples to apples

 

This link might also help

 

http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/index.php?sort=4

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Midas
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I once ran into a british guy in Las Vegas and I asked him when was a good time to visit London.  He replied, "Never!"  I thought he was being an ass(arse) until I took a two week vacation there, then I realized he was trying to be helpful. 

I don't say this to mock or gloat, It depresses me British culture is gone for good and has been replaced by third-world free-loaders.  Meanwhile, the US of A is rapidly trying to catch up.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:59 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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Like the competitive bratty brother, we're always trying to outdo the Brits:  Bigger badder bankers, empires, & debt...now food and soon, teeth

We should stick to the things they do well, the three Ps - poets, playwrights, and porters

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Hmmm, for weeks before the O. -R. election, prices dropped...now that the
Whole election is over, food and gas prices are resuming their climb..
But due to true economic voodoo magicians, there is no inflation...

But everything costs more

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Super Broccoli
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5 dollars a gallon ? LOL i remember the gallon being under a dollar in 2000 !!!!

But you're not there yet america, a gallon is worth over $8 here in europe :-)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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In Europe the prices are high because they tax it and use the money for infrastructure and other much-needed things.

 

Whereas here the high price goes to Exxon, Shell, Goldman, hedge funds, etc. and mostly does nothing but harm the rest of American society.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment nmewn
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They tax the shit out of it here too...then they print money out of thin air to match it for "much needed things" like paying off political cronies in making biofuel algae, solar panels, windmills...their contractors also, who start ripping up perfectly good roads & bridges.

Then they throw a little at states for college professors and administrators while they build these huge buildings around DC as monuments to their brilliance and to house DHS, NSA and other assorted parasites of society.

They call it "shovel ready jobs stimulus" over here...what do they call it over there?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment alangreedspank
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Look up big oil corps' page on Google Finance. You'll see their profit margin isn't that big after all.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Rip van Wrinkle
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"In Europe the prices are high because they tax it and use the money for infrastructure and other much-needed things."

 

Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! That's about as intelligent response to such an intelligent comment. Sorry, in the UK the roads have more potholes than tarmac. And that's just for starters.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 03:07 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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Not last year they hadn't - even minor roads "over there" are in pretty good repair, especially when you consider the weather, and the annual road salting extravaganza!

Now, if you REALLY want to see REALLY BAD roads (and really bad "just patch it up and run away") road maintenance, you'll have to visit Down Under. Our Aussie Freeways are in a far worse state than even minor UK roads - and our minor roads are neither sealed, nor are they flat - which is why those in the sticks almost NEED to own sturdy 4WDs - to cope with "the corrugations".

Perhaps if we could ditch the multi-level Federal / State / Local Government model, and plough the "billions of Aussie dollars salaries" thus saved into half decent, "start of the 20th Century standard" infrastructure, we'd finally be getting somewhere.

Not happening anytime soon though.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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Little Sprout, yer missing the theme. Europe is "Tiny Tim", when it comes to travel...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment farmerjohn2112
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In Europe, you can get a train from Galway to Dublin for about $25... can't really do that in the US, so we're pretty fucked.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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They're doing everything they possibly can to try and make it seem like this has anything to do with supply/demand, while the price rises even while we have fucking oil and gas coming out of our ears.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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EROEI has dropped significantly because the gas coming out of your ears is getting more and more expensive to get out of the ground.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment MrBoompi
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So you better get your story straight then.  The cost is high because of higher costs of extraction, refinery shutdowns, refinery maintenance, or what?  Anything but actual supply and demand.  Which means its a great time to be a speculator because people like you point the finger everywhere else but the actual causes.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment alangreedspank
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The cost is high because of higher costs of extraction, refinery shutdowns, refinery maintenance, or what?  Anything but actual supply and demand

The things you listed have to do with "supply".

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:14 | Link to Comment kridkrid
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The minutia of the price increase isn't important in the long term. EROI is.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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You better get your story straight, then.  Tar sands and fracking is not a cost effective way to produce oil.  To make oil from tar sands you not only need to dig out the world's largest fresh water aquifir (genius move there) but you need to use NG to seperate the tar from the sand. 

Deep water is also not a cost effective way to produce oil.  Why did the Deepwater Horizon explode?  Because we do not have the technology to drill that deep.  And even when the technology does procure more oil, any increase would only drain the reserves that much quicker.  It is like putting a bigger straw in your milkshake - "I drink your milkshake!"

Supply/demand plays a huge role for global supply/demand, but here in North America it is obvious - the EROEI is greatly affecting price.

Yes, inflation is increasing oil's price.  If Bernanke's hairbrained plans had never begun in the first place oil would likely be nearer $2/gallon. 

And as far as supply demand constraints, OPEC, the largest bloc of oil producers, use the demand ebb to control their supply.  They have been doing it flawlessly for years.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:21 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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well said 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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So you better get your story straight then. The cost is high because of higher costs of extraction, refinery shutdowns, refinery maintenance, or what? Anything but actual supply and demand.
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