Guest Post: Adrift At Sea

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Jim Quinn of Burning Platform blog,

 “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.”
Friedrich Nietzsche


The big story this past week, besides the annual State of the Delusion speech by Barack “It won’t add a cent to the deficit” Obama, was the fate of the passengers on the Carnival Triumph as their skyscraper sized ship was left adrift at sea for days without power. This 900 foot long, 100,000 ton goliath is one of the largest passenger cruise liners in the world, carrying 3,400 passengers and 1,100 crew members in luxurious splendor through warm Gulf of Mexico seas to sun drenched exotic isles. These ships are practically floating countries, with passengers treated to an endless American buffet of never ending quantities of bacon, sausage, biscuits, gravy, fried chicken, mashed potatoes, waffles, pizza, cheesecake, soda, beer and the rum drink of the day. It’s as if all 3,400 passengers have a SNAP card with no limit. There are retail stores, restaurants, bars, ice skating rinks, movie theaters, showplaces, and staff waiting on you hand and foot. No cash changes hands. You charge everything to your room number and then just pay with one of your 13 credit cards at the conclusion of your voyage into debt. Then you pay 18% interest on the 25 Funky Monkeys you consumed for the next 14 years. Cruising captures the essence of America as we traverse our voyage to hell.

The ordeal at sea of the Carnival Triumph and the leadership displayed by the Carnival management and executive officers is a microcosm of our declining empire. The $420 million Carnival Triumph was put into service in 1999 and has run continuously for the last fourteen years, with only periodic dry dock maintenance. These massive ships are replenished within hours of docking and depart within twelve hours of dumping their 3,400 passengers back onshore. The CEO and top management of Carnival care only about ROI and whether their stock options are vested. Their goal is to bilk the passengers out of as much cash as possible, while paying their foreign slave labor crew members as little as possible. The ships are registered in foreign countries for tax purposes and the crew members are mostly from third world countries. Carnival executives and shipboard officers have a history of recklessness, mismanagement, and willingness to endanger its passengers in its greedy thirst for short term profits. Ask the families of the 32 passengers killed in the sinking of the Costa Concordia.


The engine room fire that disabled the Triumph was not an isolated instance. This was the fourth engine room fire on a Carnival owned ship resulting in a loss of power, the others being the Tropicale in 1999, the Carnival Splendor in 2010, and the Costa Allegra in 2012. The Carnival Triumph should not have been at sea. It had been plagued with mechanical problems for weeks prior to the engine fire. Voluntarily taking the ship out of service would have hurt the 1st quarter earnings per share of this public company, therefore the leadership of Carnival told the engineers to patch it up and get it back out on the seas. Two weeks prior to the engine room fire the Carnival Triumph experienced propulsion issues that caused it to be five hours late returning to its Galveston home port on January 28, 2013 and delaying the ship’s departure for its next cruise until 8:00 pm that night. The ship departed, but the problems had not been fixed. The Associate Press reported a story about that cruise that provides a different assessment than the public relations drivel released the corporate office:

An email informed Debbi Smedley and other passengers that the propulsion problem would prevent them from docking at two ports. “Due to the limited cruising speed, our itinerary will be impacted. Depending on the progress of the repairs, we will either visit Progreso or Cozumel,” stated the email, signed by Vicky Rey, vice president of guest services. Smedley said the ship was in poor condition overall. During her five-day cruise, a water line broke in the hallway ceiling near her cabin, and a separate sewer line broke outside the main dining hall, she said. Metal was protruding from handrails on the staircases, and the elevators often did not work. Rather than docking in Progreso for only a few hours as planned, the ship stayed in the port for two days, and cruise workers repeatedly told passengers they were waiting for parts to fix a mechanical problem, according to Smedley.

Carnival’s public relations machine then admitted to an electrical problem with the ship’s alternator in the last voyage before the fire, but claimed it was repaired. What they didn’t reveal is that it was a Coast Guard inspection that revealed there was a short in the high voltage connection box of one of the ships generators causing damage to cables within the connection box. A directive with a compliance due date of February 27, 2013 was issued following the inspection requiring that “the condition of the ship and its equipment shall be maintained to conform with the regulations to ensure that the ship in all respects will remain fit to proceed to sea without danger to the ship or persons on board.” The Coast Guard Marine Information Safety and Law Enforcement System showed that this deficiency remained unresolved at the time of the subsequent fire and loss of power while at sea on February 10. So you have a company PR maggot lying and you have another useless Department of Homeland Security branch not enforcing regulations that are supposed to protect passengers. This is par for the course in our corporate fascist states of America today.

Shit Happens

George: Aha. Aha. Could it be because you don’t want him to know that you have a friend who pees in the shower, is that it?!

Elaine: No, that’s not it!

George: Oh, I think it is! I think that’s exactly what it is!

Elaine: Why couldn’t you just wait?

George: I was there! I saw a drain!

Elaine: Since when is a drain a toilet?!

George: It’s all pipes! What’s the difference?!


George Costanza would have enjoyed sailing on the Carnival Triumph as passengers were left to piss in showers and shit in red plastic bags for days. It finally became socially acceptable to pee in the shower. Most of the ship’s electrical power went down after the engine room fire, causing extensive breakdowns of vital shipboard mechanical systems, including taking out sanitary systems. Passengers reported sewage sloshing around in hallways, flooded rooms and trouble getting enough to eat. Passengers waited in line for three hours to get a lousy hot dog. On the lower decks sewage came up through the shower drain, pooling in the sinks and flowing into the hallways. The allegory of the poor people on the lower decks being inundated with feces and living in wretched conditions, while the rich people living in luxury on the upper decks are blissfully ignorant of the fate of their fellow passengers is so easy to apply to our society in this day and age. The 1% glory in their stock market gains, while 20% of U.S. households are on food stamps.

These direct quotes from passengers and pictures taken onboard this voyage from hell provide a taste of what our future portends:  

“We have to urinate in the shower. They’ve been passed out plastic bags to go to the bathroom. There was fecal matter all over the floor.”

“They’re walking around in a lot of urine and fecal matter, and the sewers are backing up.”

“The sanitation situation was gross and the stench was awful.”

“Just imagine the filth. People were doing crazy things and going to the bathroom in sinks and showers.”

“A lot of people were crying and freaking out.”

“We are trapped aboard a floating petri dish without power, air conditioning, or fresh water.”

“It’s degrading. Demoralizing, and then they want to insult us by giving us $500″

 Disgust: Guests were being forced to defecate into plastic bags and place it outside their rooms as toilets on board the Triumph backed up following the electrical failure Foul: Passengers on board the Carnival Triumph reported that floors were being flooded with raw sewage from overflowing bathrooms

 Where's my charger: After days without power a generator was airlifted unto the ship today and many people took the opportunity to charge their phones

After reading a number of articles describing what happened before, during and after the engine fire aboard the Carnival Triumph, the parallels between this Ship of Horrors and our Ship of State become self-evident. You have the CEO and top executives of Carnival only concerned about their wealth, power and control of the company. Rather than thinking long term and making decisions that might be detrimental to their short term quarterly earnings, but insure the long –term financial health and reputation of the company, their decision was driven by their true masters on Wall Street. Instead of taking the ship off-line to make vital repairs and  necessary investments, they just papered over signs of an imminent disaster and turned to public relations spin and propaganda as there preferred course of action. When disaster “suddenly” struck, the management and executive officers were unprepared, slow to react, and more concerned with their reputations than about the health, safety and welfare of the passengers. Much more could have been done to alleviate the misery of the 3,400 passengers. Carnival could have had a large generator helicoptered onto the deck and used to produce enough electricity to run some lights, ventilation, refrigeration and toilets. It appears that this ship had two engine rooms and only one was damaged by fire. They could have restarted the undamaged engine room and would have had enough power for most normal functions in the cabins of the ship, and probably some capability to propel the ship towards port. The disgraceful lack of urgency and refusal of top management to attempt every possible solution to this crisis is a lesson to be learned by passengers and citizens alike. They don’t care about you.

Rev. Wendell Gill’s experience onboard the Triumph provides a glimpse into our future. He immediately recognized the leadership of the ship was non-existent and it would be up to people helping people if they were to make it through the ordeal:

“What you had was a tale of two ships. You seldom saw a deck officer. I never saw the captain. Some of the people in the upper areas had plenty of air, but down below, it was unlivable. It was like a sauna of sewage. It was the people on the boat that saved Carnival. In an adverse situation, most people will rise to help — that’s just the human spirit.”  

Reverend Gill and his wife noticed that no one from Carnival was stepping up to help the elderly and sick get around. The Gills, along with other concerned passengers, decided to take matters into their own hands, carting mattresses and bedding up from the lower decks. They witnessed the worst side of human nature in the inaction of Carnival leadership, along with some people becoming drunk, disorderly and fighting over food. But they also witnessed people coming together under difficult circumstances, with many in the upper cabins sharing their space with those from the lower uninhabitable decks. The passengers created their own shanty town of tents on deck and in the cooler hallways. The vast majority of people acted like decent human beings. Kindness, sharing, and helping one another won the day. This voyage through hell is a precursor of what lies ahead for everyone in this country. When vital systems fail, the lights go out, and your beloved government leaders are nowhere to be found, how will you fare? Don’t count on someone from the government to lead when we are set adrift in a sea of chaos created by them. The politicians, bankers and bureaucrats will be scrambling to save themselves. Your family, friends, and neighbors will be the only people you can rely on. Your caring government doesn’t really care about you.

Cruisin for a Bruisin      

“Sometimes people don’t want to hear the truth because they don’t want their illusions destroyed.” Friedrich Nietzsche


The similarities between the horrific voyage of the Carnival Triumph and the tragic voyage of the dysfunctional ship of state we call America are many. We have a ruling class consisting of the President, Congress, Judiciary, Central bankers, Media titans, and goliath corporation CEOs who care not for the citizens of this country. You are ignorant peasants in their eyes. They only care about maintaining and expanding their wealth, control and power through the complete capture of our financial markets, political system and media propaganda to the masses. The health and welfare of the peasants isn’t even on their radar screen. The ruling class steering this ship of fools have no interest in the truth or the best long –term interests of the country. The vast majority of the passengers on this impaired listing ship prefers to believe the propaganda and lies spewed by the captain and his minions. They prefer the illusion of safety and security to the truth about the real condition of this ship. When the engines of this ship come to a grinding halt, their illusions will be shattered. Big government will come up small when it counts. The government propaganda and public relations will be revealed as nothing but hot putrid air and fecal matter.

Michael Ramirez Cartoon

Speaking of fecal matter, President Obama’s State of the Union address, which was watched by 33 million (down from 52 million in 2009) believers, was a perfect reflection of the thinking that led to the Carnival Triumph disaster. The reality facing the country is: $220 trillion of unfunded entitlement liabilities; a $16.5 trillion national debt; annual deficits exceeding $1 trillion; 48 million citizens on food stamps; 11 million people on SSDI; a true unemployment rate of 23%; true inflation exceeding 5%; record high gasoline prices; 0% interest rates for senior citizen savers; free money for criminal bankers provided by their sugar daddy Bernanke; not one criminal prosecution of a Wall Street executive for the greatest financial fraud in history; a war department that spends $1 trillion per year and fights undeclared wars around the world; a chief executive that invokes dictatorial executive orders to murder Americans with his fleet of predator drones and imprison citizens indefinitely without charges; and a bureaucratic nightmare called Obamacare that will drive up deficits, drive up healthcare costs for every family, enrich the healthcare industrial complex, drive doctors into retirement, and drive small businesses into bankruptcy.

Rather than deal with this reality, Obama chose the Carnival Cruise Line method of public relations, misinformation, denial and delusion. He has embraced the Big Lie concept as if he had created it. With a straight face he proposes “investments” in infrastructure, new jobs programs, new education initiatives, more green energy projects, pollution control schemes, bailing out more underwater mortgages, and raising the minimum wage, all done for the children – and it won’t add one cent to the deficit. Instead of leveling with the American people and explaining the dire economic issues confronting our nation that require sacrifice, reality based thinking, and tough choices, we got more platitudes, class warfare, divide and conquer, phantom spending cuts, disingenuous twisting of the truth, intellectual dishonesty and fuzzy math. Public relations spin created by Madison Avenue maggots and pronounced grandly by corrupt puppet politician hacks will not prevent the catastrophic engine failure that will leave this country adrift in a sea of its own feces.

Our cruise of illusions and delusions is headed for troubled water. The math challenged citizens on this ship have been enjoying the 24 hour pizza buffet without the labor required to pay for the bounty. When your leaders boldly lie and tell you we don’t have a spending problem, refer to proposed spending increases as “investments”, and hail $1.6 trillion of spending cuts that did not happen, you’ve got a ship that will be signaling SOS in the imminent future. Both political parties are laughable in their blathering about spending cuts as Bush and his Republican cronies drove spending from $1.9 trillion in 2001 to $3.0 trillion in 2008 with their unfunded wars, unfunded new entitlements (Medicare Part D), Wall Street bailouts, and creation of police state agencies (DHS); while Obama and his Democrat co-conspirators have driven spending up to $3.8 trillion in four years with new unfunded entitlements (Obamacare), expansion of warfare in the Middle East (they sit on top of “our” oil), $800 billion stimulus handouts, $60 billion hurricane relief pork handed out for $25 billion of uninsured losses, and bailing out banks, auto companies, homeowners, and other gamblers who took undo risks and lost to the tune of hundreds of billions. Politicians and the inhabitants of this country have forgotten there are consequences to their actions and inactions.

Carnival Cruise Line is trying to buy off the passengers with refunds and $500 bribes to keep them quiet and sedated, while protecting their continued hundreds of millions in profits and million dollar bonuses for their executives. The ruling class in the United States has bought off the American people with entitlement promises that can’t possibly be honored, food stamps, SSDI, tax rebates, homebuyer tax credits, loan modification programs, Cash for Clunkers, payroll tax cuts, $1 trillion of taxpayer financed student loans, taxpayer financed subprime auto loans, and a myriad of other handouts designed to keep the masses sedated, while the ruling class continues to pillage the national wealth. It’s as if the entire country has been charging their food, drinks, excursions, and purchases to their room number and the bill has reached $16.5 trillion, rising by $3 billion per day. This voyage is reaching an end and the bill is coming due. The engine is on fire but the captain is telling us all is well. Eventually, everyone will know the captain lied.         

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Leonard Cohen – Everybody Knows

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Manthong's picture

Brilliant analogy.. but there is no tug in sight and the closest port is Mogadishu.

NotApplicable's picture

You couldn't pay me to board one of those things.

Yen Cross's picture

I'll pay you for sound advice. ;-) OOps you gave it for Free!

zuuma's picture

I have 2 free tickets for a cruise on Carnival's SS FECES of the SEA!!


Who's coming along?

Pure Evil's picture

Going aboard one of those ships is like going to prison, you're basically trapped.

Prison SS Feces.

Big Slick's picture

This is a brilliant article. 

In seeking predictive metaphors to what we have in store for us during the collapse, there are many other real-world events from which to draw examples.  Besides Carnival, I look at the recent gun control legislation in New York as an accurate model for aftereffects:  certain products are now illegal and unobtainable through executive fiat.  Other products, even if still legal, are either unavailable, priced at 2-5 times old prices and/or restricted in quantity. 

Other models:






AssFire's picture
This voyage is reaching an end and the bill is coming due. The engine is on fire but the captain is telling us all is well. Eventually, everyone will know the captain lied. "Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie... if YOU believe it.."    George Costanza

redpill's picture

It was the Moops!!


Seriously though, I don't know why people do these Carnival Cruises, they are total cattle cars.  Why would you want to be stuck on a boat with 4,000 other people?  If you think the price is "cheap" it's a good reminder that you get what you pay for. 

If you want to go on a cheap tropical vacation at least do one of the all-inclusive resorts that's on land, that way you have somewhere to go and don't become a humanitarian victim overnight when something inevitably goes wrong thanks to various corporate cost-cutting.

If you are going to cruise, it's worth the money to do it right:

ACP's picture

Triumph the Insult Comic Joke of a Boat.

lasvegaspersona's picture

Everybody knows....the fat get fatter....all for the price of a cruise

fourchan's picture

can you imagine all those people with out their electronics for a week?

i cant believe teens wernt jumping ship for shore.

Bernankenstein's picture

My ex-wife is, in fact, on the Seabourn Quest right in Australia. Awesome ship and crew.

hllnwlz's picture

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That's how it goes
Everybody knows

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long stem rose
Everybody knows

--Leonard Cohen (A jew.  Read into his sagacity all you want, racist fucktards.)

EscapingProgress's picture

The saga of the SS America.

The one hundred day tow began; American Star [formerly the SS America] and Neftegaz 67 entered a thunderstorm in the Atlantic. The tow lines broke and six or more men were sent aboard American Star to reattach the emergency tow lines. This proved unsuccessful. Two other towboats were called to assist Neftegaz 67. On January 17, the crew aboard American Star was rescued by helicopter. The ship was left adrift. On January 18, the ship ran aground off the west coast of Fuerteventura in the Canary Islands.

While discussions among the ship's owners, the towing firm, and the companies insuring the ship were going on, the ship was left to nature, with the forward part of the ship running aground on a sandbar. Within the first 48 hours of pounding surf of the Atlantic, the ship broke in two just past the second funnel. The ship was declared a total loss on July 6, 1994. The stern section collapsed completely to port and sank in 1996, while the bow continued to remain intact.

In November 2005, the port side of the bow section collapsed, which caused the liner's remains to assume a much sharper list and the remaining funnel to detach and fall into the ocean. The collapse of the port side also caused the hull to begin to break up and by October 2006, the wreck had almost completely collapsed onto its port side.

In April 2007 the starboard side finally collapsed causing the wreck to break in half and fall into the sea. Since then, what little remained has been slowly disappearing beneath the waves. As of February 2012, only a few feet of the ship remains above the water.

The Heart's picture

When speaking to the collapse, remind people just what happens when all the water is shut off.

Can you imagine a city full of say, New Yorkers with no running water for maybe say, six months?

Here is the lesson!

Raymond Reason's picture

Thank God i'm a country boy....cousins still in Newark, poor souls. 

Raymond Reason's picture

I keep thinking the electrical grid is going to be a key feature on our trip through the valley of death.  I think most preppers have discovered what i have.  That is beans, bullets and bullion haven't been too challenging.  Electrical independence is a different story, and big brother certainly knows this.  This will be their "big stick" to maintain control.  The poorly maintained grid will either fail on its own accord, or its failure will be engineered and repaired as needed. 

Bicycle Repairman's picture

"This will be their "big stick""

That's why the grid is centralized.  The centralization makes no sense when viewed from ecological, economic or security prospectives. 

Ultimately it all comes down to control.  The more you break away, the better off you'll be when the system starts breaking down.  But how long can they keep the ship afloat?  That's the game.

MeMadMax's picture

SS Feces Prison...

There, fixed it.

oddjob's picture

The Captain was not the only one that kept a log on that voyage.

Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

Odds are that the Chief Engineer and his assistants are foreign (Philippino...) can't read/write english meaning they can't handle the operating guides and maintenance manuals or even understand the annunciator alarm panels. My guess is that one of these guys was switching over a lube oil duplex strainer, didn't do it right and atomized the oil, it caught fire and they were all toast! This almost happened to me back in the '90's when I caught an assistant engineer improperly switching over a fuel ol duplex strainer and just caught him in time (and this was american merchant marine).

Boozer's picture

No the engineers and navigators are mostly from Italy.  I worked onboard for CCL when they had just 3 ships.

Mid 80's - Purser gig.  Felt if things got out of hand with a serious situation it could not end well.  We pursers often

joked about taking all money out of our safes (as paymaster 2/3 hundred k) and head for the bow where the inflatable

life rafts were stowed.....exit stage left.  The captains tended to be very arrogant and not well liked.....they may have beaten

us to those rafts.  The VP who wrote the email happens to be a very nice person having worked personally with her fwiw.

Gold Dog's picture

I went on a Carnival Cruise once. Never saw so much back hair and tats in one place and the guys were worse!

Never again.



Irelevant's picture

Obama is a tool and uterly irrelevant. However, how about living in the Ukraine, or in Russia, how about Putin as president? Is the US citizen more free than the russian? or the german? or the chinese? Things I believe are much more complicated.
However I totaly agree with the post.

Oldwood's picture

Have a little patience! We will get there!

Peter Pan's picture

The parallels between this boat and the world economy are undeniable. Had this boat been taken out of service for a period of time it would have hurt the company for one quarter but now the damage is much worse going forward.

They did the same with the economy. Instead of allowing some liquidations, bankruptcies and hangings back in 2008 they continued to lie about the situation and tried to fix the leaks with toilet paper fiat. Now here we are 5 years later still putting up with the shit.

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ Peter Pan,

Of course the economy is going to collapse. It can do nothing else. All Ponzi schemes collapse, that’s why it’s illegal for anyone but “government” and their bankster masters to engage in a Ponzi scheme. One day we will all wake up and discover that a dollar is just a curious piece of paper with a lot of occult symbols on it.

Yes the ruling elite will try to use force against us to hold on to their perceived power. I do despair that there will be war in the streets of America as the ruling class turns to violence as they always have, and Americans resist. It may cost one million lives to save freedom, but if freedom is lost it will cost many millions of lives as history teaches all who take the time to look it up. So the rulers and their minions are arming up? Well so is America.

fourchan's picture

bernake and his franchises the banks, are the effluence in this compairson.

too big to pump.

john39's picture

i would take Putin over obama or the other puppet that lost lat fall in a heartbeat.

ElvisDog's picture

No kidding. At least Putin is smart, competent, and resourceful.

lasvegaspersona's picture

At least Putin has stated communism does not work...

Terminus C's picture

And since they are both sociopaths there is no loss there.

ZeroAvatar's picture

We might even GAIN a little psychopath with Putin.

Anusocracy's picture

All countries are eligible to win the Worst in Show Award.

All it takes is to have a government.

jeff montanye's picture

oh no no no no no!  clinton was far from the first.  harry truman was the first and he was told again and again by his secretary of state general george marshall (marshall plan after he helped win ww2) that bringing israel into existence in 1948 would bring perpetual war.  marshall resigned when truman refused to back down.  

eisenhower was better, stopping the israelis, french and british from seizing the suez canal.   however lyndon johnson was totally in israel's corner and basically that was the end of any pretension of u.s. evenhandedness in the mideast.  

we are fools and tools.  it is the central error of u.s. foreign policy. 

FrankDrakman's picture

Jesus.. you're out in the middle of the ocean with no working toilets, and not one person has the idea to dump the shit - literally - overboard? 

And don't give me 'pollution' bullshit. Billions of fish, birds, and mammals piss and shit in the ocean every day - five days of crap from 3200 people isn't going to change the ecological balance by a millionth of a percentage point. 

But the analogy to Bambam's State of Dysfunction speech is perfect, because neither exposes the slightest shred of a clue. 

francis_sawyer's picture

I'm not arguing with your premise in the least way...


I will add, however, that most of the fish, birds, & mammals of the ocean aren't tubs of lard who are stuffed with nachos made from monsanto corn, cheese 'food', & pink slime...

Except maybe the few 'birds' who take the easy route, fly ashore & eat scraps off the boardwalk, or the poor fish having to deal with Fukushima or other man made problems...


I guess it's a coin flip...

AssFire's picture

Given our diets,

I'd say American's shits are caviar to the salty seas.. sea creatures fight for the right to eat it like a herd of tnaf's racing at a housing give-away.

I would have launched that shit into the sea with a replaced pool slide so the birds could of had their shot as well.

Teamtc321's picture

True Frank but every berkinstock wearing, granola eating dweeb that could find a piece of cardboard to nail to a stick would be on the beach chanting, Swim in Shit, Swim in Shit, Don't dump the Shit, Don't dump the Shit. 


Fienstien and Family would then conger up a another spoofed bill to grab more gun's all in the name of Shooting the Shit. A bill they would pass before they read it no less. 


So I'm glad they just floated in some nasty Mfer's, corny corn dog shit, literally.

The Heart's picture

Crawling on the flooer to get back up...LMAO...ashes to ashes...salt to sea...they those critters never complain about all the re-hydrated dead bio-bots they get.

ElvisDog's picture

Really, why don't those ships have backup porta-potties just in case. The crew could manually pump the stuff overboard when they got full. If they can set them up for the NY marathon with 40,000 runners you would think they could provide them on a cruise ship for 5000.

francis_sawyer's picture

Yeah ~ & all the airlines could just dump it [& the blue stuff that holds it] across 'flyover country' on LA-NY trips...


In fact, this is a great idea... I'm going to drive my Winnebago over to the White House & dump my toilet out on Chewbacca's OKRA garden...

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture


Jesus.. you're out in the middle of the ocean with no working toilets, and not one person has the idea to dump the shit - literally - overboard?

I think that's pretty much standard procedure. For those that actually follow the rules, I think the minimum distance from shore is about 9 miles (16km).

</not a speck of sarcasm>

Parrotile's picture

Depends on the Country. Also depends on the size of the vessel. If moored alongside, common courtesy (and common sense) suggests use of a holding tank, however once in International waters most smaller craft  just "pump the Heads" as has happened for centuries. Larger, Commercial vessels have extra rules - and this would be the case with all these floating hotels - they HAVE to have an effective sewage management system, primarily to reduce the risk of de-oxygenation of the marine environment (look up Biological Oxygen Demand - "BOD").

We have a holding tank (welded food grade polypropylene - after a thorough clean-out and sterilise, serves as another fresh water tank when at sea!) and we also have a divert valve system for use when offshore, since in an emergency the pump mechanism on a marine toilet makes quite an efficient bilge pump (and you can never have too many of those!). Used to rely on Lavac - but migrated to ITT Jabsco - OK not as good a quality product, BUT parts are easily and readily available Worldwide, and the units are simplicity itself to service and maintain, especially the bits that are prone to failure (pump shaft seal, diverter valve seals - complete set around 50c)


New England Patriot's picture

Plenty of employment to be had swabbing the poop deck.