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Guest Post: Why Don't People See

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Via Monty Pelerin's World,

I meet people that still believe that the world is fine. They believe things like:

  • The US government has plenty of money.
  • Government cares for its citizens.
  • The economy cannot crash.
  • We are not in a recession (Depression).
  • The lives of their children will be better than their own.
  • The government can continue to print money to fund promises they cannot afford.

Despite these untenable beliefs, these are not stupid people. Many are professionals who do quite well — doctors, lawyers, dentists, college professors, etc. They are not  zombies, our walking dead, have no idea about what is happening around them no less the way things work in an economy, society or the world. It is our educated who should care yet seem to be oblivious to what lies ahead.

The ignorance and/or lack of concern of this group is perplexing and maddening. They are certainly capable of understanding. It is also in their interests to comprehend, as they are the ones who will lose the most. How does one open their eyes? What can they be shown to arouse them from their ignorance?

Sadly, I don’t have answers to these frustrating questions. It is not that others have not presented the information as much as these people refuse to acknowledge the implications. Are they all too busy? Are they idiot savants who are geniuses in their fields but not very smart away from it? Warnings come from many sources and from many different perspectives, yet they do not seem to penetrate the minds of those most capable of effecting change.

From a self-interest standpoint, this productive group should be the most concerned. After all, they are ground zero for the Socialist schemes that are destroying society. They are the ones that will be crushed in the redistribution dreams of our political class. Will they awaken too late? Or, will many of them just withdraw their productivity by retiring early, emigrating, etc.?

I don’t have answers to these questions, but I do know that this professional class is about to become prey for our predatory State. And, when that happens, they will hurt but not nearly as much as the rest of us.


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Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:05 | 3252780 GetZeeGold
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Watching American idle is a soothing balm.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:08 | 3252787 Middle_Finger_Market
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Not stupid, just ignorant. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:12 | 3252799 Cult_of_Reason
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Ignorance is bliss!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:18 | 3252818 GetZeeGold
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Many are professionals who do quite well — doctors, lawyers, dentists


We'd do a lot better if we have a government made up of welders, HVAC servicemen, and plumbers.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:25 | 3252858 john39
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orwell covered this long ago... most of the professional classes are hopelessly entagled in the system, and therefore, will not rise up in opposition.  the push will come from the underclass.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:27 | 3252866 CH1
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Right, they are not "stupid," it's just that their brains are running shit software.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:31 | 3252888 JPM Hater001
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<------------ I have ADD or OCD tendencies

<------------ I am normal


If I weren't so cheap I would create a survey to establish a demographic outline of those Awake in America and the degree to which reality has set in.  I would bet ADD/OCD tendencies show an high correlation...We never understood, nor ever easily belonged, how to give in on reality to be friends and get along with the Sheep.  That is the overwhelming problem.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:38 | 3252919 john39
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yes, and i wonder what percentage of the professional classes pound their consciousness into submission with SSRI's...   just another little gift from the NWO to ensure that the sheeple accept their enslavement.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:43 | 3252940 strannick
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Because these are untenable beliefs these are stupid people

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:53 | 3252972 Solid Gold Bubble
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Sorry, but I'm tired of those who makes excuses for those who fail to see the obvious truth - they ARE stupid, the same way that people who cant do basic arithmetic or distinguish between their/there/they're are stupid. There are plenty of doctors and lawyers who unthinkingly read textbooks, take exams, get qualified, read newspapers, obey authority and do their jobs, perhaps very well. All that demonstrates is a well developed left brain hemisphere and a clinically dead right hemisphere - so called "squares" with no capacity to think outside the box and reason for themselves without an academic or mainstream media-based authority to do their thinking for them. If you can't see that the western governments (and most others) are criminals, murderers and terrorists, you are stupid. If you can't see that 9/11 was an inside job, you are stupid. If you think the US economy is fine, you are stupid. End of story.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:33 | 3253121 NotApplicable
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Well, first off, there has been little to no personal downside thus far for displaying this level of stupidity. Stupid should hurt.

These professionals not only comprise but fall victim to false authority syndrome.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:08 | 3253275 Bad Attitude
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Agreed. There are few negative consequences to stupidity. We,as a society, have interfered with natural selection far too long by sheltering people from their bad decisions.

Personally, I think a lot of these otherwise smart people are intentionally in denial. They do not want to know the truth. It is going to be ugly when they are finally forced by circumstances to deal with reality.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:32 | 3253384 Lore
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I think you nailed it re: denial, at least among those who pay attention to affairs outside their offices.  I'm reminded of a response from someone when I phoned to inform them of a tragedy in the life of a family member: 


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:55 | 3253462 old naughty
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His Dad told him when Dad was in his teens Grandpa told him nothing to worry about, there will be no financial crisis and no more war after the first one.

His Dad told him when he was in his teens nothing to worry about, there will not be another financial crisis and no more war after the second one.

What are you telling/going to tell your children/grandchildren ?

I am asking YOU. Don't fucking look to PhDs from Ivy League U's.


Sorry, not addressing you, Lore.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:21 | 3253562 BaBaBouy
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MR. Guest, You Forgot One ...


@@@ GOLD Price Is Absolutely Not Manipulated.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:28 | 3253596 Enslavethechild...
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Intelligence is "conditioned" out of people, it starts from the top and works it's way down

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:32 | 3253614 Shocker
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Everything is fine, just keep your eyes closed.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:52 | 3253677 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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He forgot one:


  • Fiat currency has value
Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:18 | 3253928 TruthInSunshine
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I like Monty's musings & articles by & large, but this one leaves me cold for a number of reasons, not the least of which is his ambiguous closing paragraph regarding what's going to happen to a specific group (i.e. the "professional class"), without providing a shred of specific information or supporting evidence.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:34 | 3254115 CIABS
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I'd say that the intelligence and the psychology of a person are not the same thing.  But the most intelligent people are aware of their own psychology and that which pervades society, and they think their way beyond it.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:30 | 3254253 Enslavethechild...
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Invest in imaginary Gold (GLD), imaginary Silver (SLV) or imaginary Palladium (PALL)

It's not stupid.

It's fucking retarded.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:45 | 3255130 Cardinal Fang
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You carry skepticism to an unhealthy degree.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 02:22 | 3255323 The Heart
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It has and remains all about edumacation.

The babylonaian empire of dust purposely dumbs people down with the media and on the kids in all mind control schools. When once edumacational centers at any level taught kids to be good thinkers and leaders, now they teach them to be good followers and slaves. Media garbage is what it garbage fit for the ripe and mind-controlled lemmings to consume like nightly church.

Call the Light Brigades.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:31 | 3253607 Skateboarder
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I am young but I know one thing perrenial, that in order for a conscious to better itself over time, individual or collective, it needs to believe that things can be done right the first time, and make it not happenstance but rather a way of life. If you can show everyone that shit can be done righteously, people may take notice and subscribe to that philosophy rather than the false one propagated through the global herding framework, the one that says that a single human being is not capable of all. I'll be doing my part.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:49 | 3253681 Chupacabra-322
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America’s 60 Families
Dynasties listed below were included in America’s 60 Families, Ferdinand Lundberg’s 1937 expose on the super-rich. Lundberg used tax records to uncover the often impenetrable financial and political machinations of the 60 Families, effectively publishing a directory of names and occupations of family scions as well as estimates of their fortunes.
“The United States is owned and dominated today by a hierarchy of its sixty richest families, buttressed by no more than ninety families of lesser wealth… These families are the living center of the modern industrial oligarchy which dominates the United States, functioning discreetly under a de jure democratic form of government behind which a de facto government, absolutist and plutocratic in its lineaments, has gradually taken form since the Civil War. This de facto government is actually the government of the United States — informal, invisible, shadowy. It is the government of money in a dollar democracy.”

Families are listed in ranked order (according to 1924 tax records) with their primary sources of wealth.

1 Rockefeller Family Standard Oil
2 Morgan Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
3 Ford Family Ford Motors
4 Harkness Family Standard Oil
5 Mellon Family Aluminum Company
6 Vanderbilt Family NY Central R&R
7 Whitney Family Standard Oil
8 Standard Oil Families Standard Oil
9 Du Pont Family DuPont
10 McCormick Family International Harvester, Chicago Times
11 Baker Family First National Bank
12 Fisher Family General Motors
13 Guggenheim Family American Smelting & Refining Co.
14 Field Family Marshall Field’s
15 Curtis-Boks Family Curtis Publishing Co.
16 Duke Family American Tobacco Company
17 Berwind Family Berwind-White Coal Co.
18 Lehman Family Lehman Brothers
19 Widener Family American Tobacco Company, public utilities
20 Reynolds Family R. J. Reynolds
21 Astor Family Real estate
22 Winthrop Family Miscellaneous
23 Stillman Family Citibank
24 Timken Family Timken
25 Pitcairn Family Pittsburgh Plate Glass Co. (now PPG Industries)
26 Warburg Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
27 Metcalf Family Rhode Island textile mills
28 Clark Family Singer Sewing Machine Co.
29 Phipps Family Carnegie Steel
30 Kahn Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
31 Green Family Stocks and real estate
32 Patterson Family Chicago Tribune
33 Taft Family Real estate
34 Deering Family International Harvester
35 De Forest Family Corporate law practice
36 Gould Family Railroads
37 Hills Family Railroads
38 Drexel Family J. P. Morgan & Co.
39 Ryan Family Stock market
40 Foster Family Auto parts
41 Johnson Family Victor Phonograph
42 James Family Copper and railroads
43 Nash Family Automobiles
44 Schiff Family Kuhn, Loeb & Co.
45 Patten Family Wheat market
46 Hayden Family Stock market
47 Weber Family Allied Chemical & Dye Corp.
48 Blumenthal Family Lazard
49 Mills Family Mining
50 Friedsam Family Merchandising
51 McLean Family Mining
52 Higgins Family New York real estate
53 Cochran Family Textiles
54 Kirkwood Family
55 Tyson Family
56 Huntington Family Railroads
57 Storrow Family Lee Higginson & Co.
58 Rosenwald Family Sears Roebuck
59 Baruch Family Stock market
60 Kresge Family Merchandising

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 03:00 | 3255361 Kobe Beef
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Combine this list with a reading of Juri Lins' The Secret History of Freemasonry, Eustace Mullin's The World Order, and Anthony Sutton's The Order of the Skull and Bones, and you will know the documented, active conspirators of The New World Order: who, what, when, where, how and why Oligarchical Collectivism was brought into reality. 

All are available on pdf over the net for free. Be skeptical, certainly, but the documentation is there, and cannot be debunked by the standard "conspiracy theory" attack.

Why don't highly educated people see? Remember that Education was one of the primary targets for takeover by the NWO, and all their sponsored socialist movements (Fabianism, Bolshevism, Nazism, and Frankfurt Cultural Marxism) took over the schools. Sutton's work documents this process in the USA; John Taylor Gatto also. Educated professionals spent their formative years in the brainwashing machine, and have been rewarded for it. The more time spent in higher education, the more exposure to NWO propaganda. And the professionals' continued career advancement requires their continued ignorance of the puppet masters and their propaganda. Go along, get along--right over the cliff, lemmings.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:36 | 3254270 August
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This is America, and we don't believe in negative consequences.

Except, perhaps, for failing to attend Tony Robbins' seminars.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:09 | 3253276 Bad Attitude
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Double post.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:35 | 3253397 mark mchugh
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Stupid should hurt.

And with those three words, you've become my hero.

We keep alive poorly run businesses and pursue unsustainable policies (in defense, government-backed financing for houses and education, etc.), while rewarding ourselves with artificially low interest rates based in no reality.  Stupid doesn't hurt anymore now that we've tapped into the magic of deficit spending.

In my mind, there's only one reason capitalism works:  Stupidity gets punished. And we've removed that from the equation.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:45 | 3253430 RockyRacoon
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My question would be: "Who cares about these folks?"

I've been down the road of trying to be a source of information on these issues.  I've generally been met with the view that I just fell off a spaceship.  No more.  They are on their own. 

Remember the Twilight Zone episode of the neighbors trying to break into the shelter of the family who prepared? 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:12 | 3253919 mark mchugh
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I hear you, Rock, but I don't want it to come to that.  These people have skills, intelligence and value,  I don't think most people want to be a drain on the system, but the sad truth is MOST people are (When government spending is 40% of GDP and every dollar gets spent more than once, that is most certainly the case),  Their fatal flaw is they don't want to understand  the big picture, or even look at it.  If they got a bill every month for what the government is spending to "help" us, things would change immediately.  

So the bigger problem to me is that we've created a world where stupid doesn't hurt.

When my appendix ruptured last year, I was cared for by top-notch professionals up and down the line.  I'm glad that they we're experts at what they did and don't really care that most of them probably have no idea what the Austrian school of economics is.  

I don't want to see those people get flushed.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:38 | 3253977 RockyRacoon
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Your key statement:

...we've created a world where stupid doesn't hurt.

I recall many years ago when dodge-ball was outlawed in public schools.  I figgered we were in big trouble then.  If you remove the ability to be "unpopular" you thereby remove the stigma of low self-esteem.   Say what?!  Poor bastards get out into the real world and get quite a shock to find out that some people just aren't liked... period.   Then we get all sorts of other methods to build self-image and all that crap.  It's like we've removed the ability to be mediocre.  Well, some folks are just ordinary, not intended to go to college, not intended to be extraordinary.  Being stupid is not a handicap any more.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:45 | 3254145 mark mchugh
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I'll agree that we're trying to engineer outcomes.  The teacher's pet straight A student often comes up short in both the coordination and popularity departments, and nothing drives that point home like a swift dodgeball to the groin.  So we wind up with "genuises" who can't change a tire.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:10 | 3253736 S5936
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USSA = nothing succeeds like FAILURE !!!!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:35 | 3253582 SamAdams
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Eventually, all "professionals" will be working for the government.  At the same time, the government will be having to steal its money from the unskilled serfs.  So, with the exception of the oligarchy, everyone's standard of living will fall and "it will hurt".  If they have their way, this will be a slow and incremental process, so as not to raise too many eyebrows.

As for stupidity, maybe... maybe not.  The truth requires people to alter their belief systems.  Most are not open enough to allow this to happen overnight.  Furthermore, when this does happen in a rapid transition, it defines paranoid schizophrenic.  What I see is intelligent people who eventually come to realize the implications of the Federal Reserve.  Myself, I took the direct route of "Holy Shit!  It's the FED!"....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:19 | 3253766 SeattleBruce
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Good point - look what's happening with obummercare - many physicians are quitting rather than work almost direct for the goobermint...they're certainly NOT the stoopid ones...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 03:09 | 3255387 Kobe Beef
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"Holy Shit!" The same people (Vanderlip, Warburg, Schiff) who created the Fed also set up American International Corporation to fund the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, and funded Woodrow Wilson's Presidential campaigns.

How does that go, Hegel? "Thesis, Antithesis, Synthesis"? Their method is controlled opposition, controlled outcomes. The London and Paris Rothschilds perfected this art in the Napoleonic Wars, and it's been going on ever since.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:52 | 3254004 BigJim
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Hey! I spent 10 years studying medicine and oncology, so if you have cancer, you should listen to me!

Krugpot spent ten years studying the economy, so if you have an economy, you should listen to him!


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:41 | 3253155 hannah
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my mama says stupid is as stupid does....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:55 | 3253470 Popo
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Well that's just like your opinion, man.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:02 | 3253495 Henry Chinaski
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If you're gonna be stupid, you gotta be tough.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:01 | 3253245 kliguy38
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I am a member of the professional class and will attest to their complete stupidity. I was trying to get my partners to short the market and financials in 2006 and 2007 telling them the housing bubble would be a spectacular collapse...........only 2 out of 8 partners listened. The arguments verged on comedy. They really are dumbed down.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:26 | 3253344 Lore
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It is fascinating, isn't it?  Here's another tidbit, based on personal discussion with some of my contacts in the so-called 'professional class':  Many are living from paycheque to paycheque.  Despite large incomes, they have huge debts.  Ask them at the end of the year where their money goes, and they stare blankly. When the food riots start, there will be lots of 'professionals' amongst the non-'professionals.'

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:31 | 3253381 unrulian
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in such a scenerio the non-professionals will do better in many regards than the "professionals" the only ones with a marketable skill will be the docs and nurses

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:49 | 3253679 Citxmech
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I think the biggest blockages to folks seeing the forest instead of the trees are:

1. The slow bumpy nature of the decline (allows for excuses made at the behest of normalcy bias);

2. The insidious nature of inflation (folks just can't seem to fully understand why this is both thievery and a tax); and

3. The "Malthus was wrong" fallacy, also known as the myth of "progress" (the religious belief that humanity is necessarily on an "upward" trajectory regardless of how many of us are fighting for exponential growth at the expense of the world's finite resources).

Ultimately, I think that confronting the need to immediately prepare for a coming crisis comes down to playing the "what happens next?" game, being realistic in the time frames involved, and understanding that just because I was comfortable yesterday doesn't mean I will be better-off tomorrow.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:07 | 3253721 Lore
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Good post, esp. re: "being realistic in the time frames involved." Malthus may be right, but not in the span of one lifetime, like some extravagantly-marketed alarmists would have us believe.  Generational credit contraction spells the end of a way of life, but certainly not the end of the world, and we need not feel obliged to save ourselves from some imagined disaster by paying tribute to a new carbon priesthood.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:51 | 3255151 Cardinal Fang
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+1 "Myth of Progress" sorta like the "Myth of Civilization". Superstorm Sandy came very close to ripping the veneer off that one. Food and Fuel, baby, Food and fuel.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:03 | 3253715 kliguy38
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Yup......absolutely true.....most of my colleagues have enormous debt and are living paycheck to paycheck despite average incomes o 500K

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:36 | 3253613 SamAdams
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My brother works for Margin Stanley as an investment advisor and he hasn't a clue as to what is really going on.  He is one of the "slow" ones I guess.  Eventually it will sink in.  At any rate, I've awakened my entire family with the exception of little brother.

BTW, my platform is going to county!  "Ban dual-citizens from serving in any congressional position.  Existing Senators/Representatives grandfathered in."

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:01 | 3254034 Tango in the Blight
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He is paid not to know. Otherwise he wouldn't be working for Morgue Stealy.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:35 | 3253399 dtwn
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You sir are stupid for bringing up 9/11.  If you can't see that there are events that result of extremely complex systems you are stupid.  End of story.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:01 | 3253708 Panafrican Funk...
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Occam's razor points to the "inside job" scenario being the correct conclusion.  Consider the "official version", and tell me that isn't all kinds of completely fucking absurd and improbable.  Now consider the same thing being the result of highly trained professionals who do this shit for a living.  You can't tell me that's way, way more plausible.  

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:50 | 3253844 JPM Hater001
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Occam's Razor says the simplest answer is more than likely the right on.  People acting purposefully with a goal is far more complicated than my assessment.

-People made a lot of really bad decision, whether they meant to or not is irrellevant.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:03 | 3253886 MachoMan
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First, this is outside the scope of occam's razor...  Second, and most important, I can't fathom how you can practically determine which scenario contains the least number of assumptions (certainly not without a very, very long and detailed post)...  Third, and also fairly important, is that if you're going to cite occam's razor, then you'd best also cite its corollaries, e.g. hanlon's razor: (which would tend to refute the inside job theory).

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:21 | 3254082 JPM Hater001
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Excellent extension.  I have learned something today.  I am now happy.


Mostly because it say I'm right...but Im happy so who cares...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 04:39 | 3255465 All Risk No Reward
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Who cares what the misuse of Occam's Razor indicates?

The Occam's Razor principle was never intended to replace research - You know, the gathering of data and the application of logic.

However, it sure plays into the hands of the dElites to shut down critical thought in the simple minded who demand simple answers to complex questions.

The key to unraveling 9/11 is to break it down into parts that are digestible.  You know, parts where the laws of physics rule the day, not probability assumptions that exist in the minds of self interested parties.

Perhaps the most d*mning evidence that 9/11 was an inside job is the fact that the top part of WTC #1 NEVER HIT THE LOWER PART OF THE BUILDING.

Ruminate on that verifiable, repeatable fact for a moment.

How do I know the top part of the building never hit the bottom part?  Well, that's easy.  If the top part had hit the bottom portion of the building, as claimed by NIST, the top part of the building would have decelerated on impact.  This is a law of physics - there is no evidence it can be circumvented.

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like

The physical evidence proves that the top portion of the building literally fell through the bottom portion of the building - the top portion of the building never struck the bottom section as alleged by NIST.

For anyone who is researching this subject in order to gather data and apply logic to the data (the only true way to know something), I recommend David Chandler's other videos.   The NIST Admiots Free Fall series is especially good since NIST admits that free fall is impossible under their scenario...  except we observe over 2 seconds of perimeter level free fall acceleration.  That is the expected observation if someone took an anti-matter ray and instantaneously disappeared a cross section of WTC7 that was about 7 stories high.

If one hasn't done the data gathering and the logic application (identify and remove contradictions and fallacies) then one's opinion is meaningless.

Research -> Conclusion = good chance of being right.

Conclusion without Research = Delusion.


Tue, 02/19/2013 - 11:14 | 3256051 MachoMan
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And this is relevant how?  You realize that the official story being incorrect does not prove all of the various inside job theses, right?

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 03:11 | 3258662 All Risk No Reward
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It sounds like you agree that with the physical fact that the top of the building could not have pile driven the lower part of the building.

It is relevant because the top part of the building essentially blew up as the bottom portion fo the building blew up such that whatever was left of the top had nothing to hit below it.

Now we need to try and figure out how that is possible, no? 

I can't think of a natural way that could occur, can you?  If you could, you probably would have laid it out.

If you can't think of a natural way that could occur, what are the unnatrual ways that could create the observed physical evidence?

Why is the government - both parties - hiding this reality from the public and pretending the false pile driving narrative is real?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:07 | 3253900 SeattleBruce
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'"inside job" scenario' - "Now consider the same thing being the result of highly trained professionals who do this shit for a living.  You can't tell me that's (not) way, way more plausible."

Occam's Razor? Inside Job by whom?  Let's say this is the more plausible explanation (although the tensile strength of steel would not require a melting temperature, just a terminal weakening beyond which a floor would collapse under the weight of the 20 floors above it - which "team" would said professionals be working for?  Frankly, given the billions and trillions available to all kinds of power players and nefarious groups - it could have been anyone.  Why not some radicalized wealthy Saudi sheik who wanted the public spectacle of the planes hitting the US icons, but also wanted to ensure the towers came down (so a plan A/B, with plan B backup, in case the planes didn't make it)...or it could have been Massad, or Russia, or perhaps some weird US black ops destined to kill 3,000+ of its own citizens for the sake of the 'greater good', spinning out of control, or perhaps the Communist Chinese through mercenaries...all of the non-muslim groups working the muslim plane angles as cover...So now we're back at square one.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:43 | 3254141 Dry Drunk
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The principle applied here should be "Cui Bono" not "Occam's Razor"

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 04:52 | 3255472 All Risk No Reward
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Who?  We don't know for sure because the research into that question has been hindered.  We do have evidence of insider trading, though, tied to the CIA and mega corporations.  While not proof, that is a good lead.

I have an idea who did it because I know who runs the government, the media and who put us under a fraudulent monetary system to systematically bankrupt and asset strip the world...

That would be the Debt Money Tyrants or Big Finance Capital

Yes, your monetary system is an engineered fraud that is criminally robbing your society.  Nice people don't that kind of thing.  BTW, Debt Money Tyranny impoverishes 100s of millions of people and kills off 10s of millions every year, so don't think they care about 3,000 Americans they are in the process of impoverishing.

How do you reconcile your hyposthesis that a floor gave way that allowed the top portion of the building to "pile drive" the floors below it when the top portion of the building never hit the floor below the one that gave way?

Oh, you didn't know that, did you?  That's why research is required before reaching conclusions - otherwise you might get punked by known liars (aka, the Big Finance Capital captured "government").

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like

I recommend viewing the rest of David Chandler's videos since he has some other gems that expose the NIST claims as physical impossibilities and outright lies.

Research (data -> logic -> identify and remove contradictions and fallacies) -> Valid Conclusion.

Conclusions before research are the things of mass delusion.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:17 | 3253759 BLOTTO
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ZedHeds make me somewhat sane...great comments.


Also, as ive mentioned before, you cant under estimate the power of the brain washing and hoodwinking going on by the elite. Its super thick. Talented smart (evil) people, with infinite money, with every resouce and connection available = the good people are up against it.


Sometimes i wonder how we are so special and priviledged (lol) to 'see it'. And if its that would think...their would be more then 1-3% awake...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 04:54 | 3255448 All Risk No Reward
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I talk to people all the time.  The professional class has typically been well rewarded by not rocking the establishment boat.  In the case of physicians, I always wondered why they made them put in all nighters and kept them sleep deprived.  That's an old school mind control (I prefer perception management) routine - and that's exactly why they used it on the physicians.  Most in these professional classes are actually very insecure people.  The establishment is brutal towards dissenters and most simply can't handle it. 

Merck - "Seek them out and destroy them where they live..."

Truthfully, it is scary to fully comprehend that the evil guys/gals are running the government.  I take about 3 minutes to lay out Debt Money Tyranny to people and, after hearing it, they continue the previous conversation without acknowledging the proof I've given that the monetary system is a fraud engineered to bankrupt and asset strip society.

I literally know professionals who will lie in order to keep up "airs" - it is a bizarre narcissistic personality disorder symptom.  It isn't like they fool me - One person told me they would give me somethinig I was confident they would never give me...  and told them point blank that I didn't believe they were ever going to give me the information promised.  I never received the information and, frankly, have decided to put that person on my "how's the weather" conversation list.  He's purposely and obviously irrational and appears to get some serious emotional comfort simply by being an establishment gobemouche (the word won the 2012 national spelling bee and it is quite appropos).

I don't understand it.  Perhaps Mayer Rothschild did, though.

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

Or Bertrand Russell...

"Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished. . . . Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible. . . .”----Bertrand Russell,1953

"Education in a scientific society may, I think, be best conceived after the analogy of the education provided by the Jesuits. The Jesuits provided one sort of education for the boys who were to become ordinary men of the world, and another for those who were to become members of the Society of Jesus. In like manner, the scientific rulers will provide one kind of education for ordinary men and women, and another for those who are to become holders of scientific power. Ordinary men and women will be expected to be docile, industrious, punctual, thoughtless, and contented. Of these qualities probably contentment will be considered the most important. In order to produce it, all the researches of psycho-analysis, behaviourism, and biochemistry will be brought into play." -----Read the book online here...[part 3, XIV, Education in a Scientific Society p.251]

"Education should aim at destroying free will so that after pupils are thus schooled they will be incapable throughout the rest of their lives of thinking or acting otherwise than as their school masters would have wished ... The social psychologist of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for more than one generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen."  -----Bertrand Russell quoting Johann Gottlieb Fichte, the head of philosophy & psychology who influenced Hegel and others – Prussian University in Berlin, 1810

Also, I believe there is a lot ofself selecting into the professional ranks... if you don't play along to get along, they kick your behind out...

Disciplined Minds

The Ultimate History Lesson - Commentary and Analysis

At the end of the day, people need to understand the Trivium - one must understand the data and the logic (removecontradictions and fallacies) in order to truly know something.  If you haven't done the research, you don't know it.  It might be true or it might be false - you simply can not know unless you've done the research.  Grammar (Who What Where When) -> Logic (Why - no contradictions and fallacies) -> Rhetoric (How - Valid conclusion can be communicated to others)

Search Trivium eduction, Trivium binder.

The big worldwide delusion is that one can think they know something without having done the research themselves.

At the end of the benefit of that delusion outweighs the cost of holding onto it.

Those who understand the system and the concept of consequences understand that the cost of holding on to that comforting delusion is going to skyrocket past the benefits at some future point.

IMHO, that logical conclusion is that society is structured in such a way to keep the costs hidden so that the professional class reaches a wrong conclusion they will dearly regret in due time.


Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:13 | 3255421 All Risk No Reward
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If one isn't out exposing and resisting Debt Money Tyranny, one is not even in the game.

Debt Money Tyranny

BTW, solutions are offered on the second page of that document - you can easily become a victor by resisting this tyranny in legal and lawful ways.  The only vote we have that counts is how we spend our money - and we need to use cash (don't send interest to the enemy), spend money locally and spend money on small businesses, not mega corporations that are the enemy.  The good news is the enemy is easy to spot - they have cutesy commercials and are BIG.

Debt Money Tyrants use it to funnel the wealth and energy of the masses to themselves as depicted in the Matrix - minus the pods.

They then use this energy to wage the highest Art of War on everyone outside their psychopathic cabal.

GMO pesticide "food," neurotoxins in the water, sterilants in the food and water, cancer viruses in vaccines, sterilants in vaccines, cellular inflammation promoters in food, drink and vaccines, geo-engineering, police state, assault on America's freedoms, federal goons financed to tell the local fire and police workers that George Washington was a terrorist and the King of England was the rightful governor of America... I couldn't make that up...

BTW, that video was put out with an all Republican congress and a Republican president.  The Katrina victim disarmament operation also occurred under a Republican administration.

Oh, and it is the Republican House of Representatives that is spending all this money - NOT Obama.  The media is lying.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:51 | 3252943 cowdiddly
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I once went to a USO show where a hypnotist was putting on a show and asked for volunteers from the audience. About 10 of us approached the stage. He spoke calmly and looked deeply into my eyes and politelyrequested that I go back to sit down. I never knew what I did wrong.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:04 | 3253007 WillyGroper
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You did nothing wrong. I had a similar experience with a hypnotist. He told me that I could not be hypnotised. It's either the sheep factor or bullshit meter. Don't see much in between.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:25 | 3253093 JPM Hater001
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Funny, I go out like a light and have been on stage 2 or 3 times.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:21 | 3253074 ebworthen
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The eyes are the windows to the soul, and the keyhole to the brain.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:33 | 3253118 McMolotov
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The eyes are also the groin of the head, according to Dwight Schrute.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:38 | 3253407 Anusocracy
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Asperger's/autistic individuals are much less likely to make eye contact. Perhaps that was his clue.

Because of their not being social, one would think that the autistics are the source of individualism, self-governance, and freedom.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:59 | 3253486 Karlus
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" He spoke calmly and looked deeply into my eyes and politelyrequested that I go back to sit down."


You actually didnt do anything wrong. You did everything you were told in the 10 min between him looking in your eyes and asking you to sit down...



Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:05 | 3253892 MachoMan
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"why the hell does my ass hurt so badly?"

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:43 | 3254920 dellievan
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The usual culprit is frightful, rythmic, colonic violation.  Some times you get the bonus reach around with rough sandpaper





sixty grit,  bitchez

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:30 | 3253108 JPM Hater001
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The SSRI gigolo is part of a broader problem and is best exemplified by our coming collapse.  If you don't let the little failures happen and people to progress through the depression no one ever learns the lesson and the problems lingers and more often grow. 


Without changing our paradigm through failure we rob ourselves of progress and enable our cognitive dissonance to rewrite facts.  Why do you think our kids are so messed up?


We've nerf'd the world.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:23 | 3253133 JPM Hater001
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I should add: I collapsed my thinking at 23 and went back to college.  At 29 I collapsed my thinking and took a different kind of job.

When I was laid off in May of last year I decided I would just get stoned till something changed...this has been my favorite.


Saturday I am hosting the Inaugural Caucus for a local Libertarian Party.  I ran out of pot so I had to do something.


If you want to learn motivation- fail.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:27 | 3253590 The Ponz
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 Much more is learned from failure than success. Rip it up and start again.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:28 | 3253591 The Ponz
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double post.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:29 | 3253592 The Ponz
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Broke the f'n internet.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:03 | 3253716 Panafrican Funk...
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"Nerfed the world", very apt description.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:00 | 3253879 Cathartes Aura
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how's that "getting stoned till something changed" thing working out for your family/kid?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:08 | 3254048 Tango in the Blight
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You are assuming that he has any.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:14 | 3254056 Cathartes Aura
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based on posts over time.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:30 | 3254104 JPM Hater001
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You question is specious.  One can enjoy a joint from time to time and be a good dad.  In fact, I would argue the conversations it frees me to have with my wife strengthens the relationship and that benefits our children greatly.

Don't tread on me.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 19:21 | 3254380 Cathartes Aura
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no treading going on here, merely re-membering some of your posts of last year, when you shared your pride in family. . .

When I was laid off in May of last year I decided I would just get stoned till something changed...this has been my favorite.

your own words don't match up with "a joint from time to time" - and I have zero problems with the herb, okay? - it's just that your words put me in mind with that video you shared, of an offspring.

no treading, just a memory, of pride.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:32 | 3253385 dtwn
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SSRI's have absolutely nothing to do with lack of thinking about the world and the economy around us.  For those of us who suffer from crippling depression they can be lifesavers.  It's not some conspiracy.  SSRI's don't change the way you think or the majority of your personality (though they can somewhat).  They allow those who are responsive to them to function just a little more normally.  In short, fuck you ignorant douche.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:07 | 3253728 Panafrican Funk...
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" For those of us who suffer from crippling depression they can be lifesavers."

Have you considered why there is such a gigantic uptick in depression diagnoses?  Have you considered dietary alternatives?  You are what you eat, and what you eat affects your seratonin, dopamine, and epinephrine/norepinephrine levels.  

"SSRI's don't change the way you think or the majority of your personality"

Tell that to the latest string of mass murderers, all of whom had extremely jacked up norephinephrine levels.

Ignorant douche, indeed.  

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:00 | 3253871 JPM Hater001
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I took SSRI's for my ADD and I get that they cut off the valleys...and although with most you can be a rock-star in bed carrying a boner for hours...try finishing when you cant peak either.

They do help people but I believe there are better solutions cut from the fabric of science so we dont find out.  We need much more research on things like DMT and Acid. 

Depression is created by a chemical event (the vast majority of people were not born depressed) and by maintaining the imbalance instead of having a collapse in the thinking which is scientifically proven to grow new neural connections most will only reach a fraction of their potential.


"In short, fuck you ignorant douche." - And this sounds like the dissonance I described.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:07 | 3276006 matrix2012
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Dangers of SSRI Drugs - Video -

An interview with Dr. Gary Kohls by Raena Morgan

Dr. Gary Kohls urges people to avoid taking SSRI drugs. SSRIs are dangerous, addicting and they ALTER THE BRAIN.


Raena Morgan: What are SSRI drugs?

Dr. Gary Kohls: That’s the abbreviation for Selective Serotonin Reuptake Pump Inhibitors. SSRI.


RM: Wow, that’s a mouthful.

GK: That’s a mouthful. So SSRI is kind of an easy way to explain something that we doctors don’t understand. We get this propaganda from the drug industry. Representatives would come and give us samples and wine and dine us and they don’t tell us everything we should know about using these very dangerous and addicting medications that ALTER THE BRAIN.

If I had audio-visual aids here…this is a three-hour lecture that I’m trying to summarize here. Those are chemical structures, small molecules that are able to get into the brain through cerebral spinal fluid and then they alter what happens at the synapses, where everything happens…the connection between two nerves is where these things work. They disable the reuptake pump, which sucks the, for instance serotonin in the case of serotonin reuptake pump inhibitors, back in to be recycled.

When the drug is in the brain, it prevents the serotonin from being recycled, meaning it’s going to deplete it eventually, while it’s over-stimulating the receiving nerve, this other serotonin nerve, you can see why we could use a diagram here.


RM: You’re getting more serotonin when you take the drug?

GK: Getting more serotonin only in the synapse. But because serotonin gets, not 100% but close to 100% recycling…it gets used over and over again…when you’re on the Prozac or the Zoloft or the Paxil you’re not getting that recycling effect. So temporarily you’re getting serotonin so you’re feeling better for awhile. But then because the serotonin becomes eventually deficient and it knocks off some of these receptor sites…again, this is more easy to understand with a diagram…you’re ALTERING THE BRAIN, at least long term. Maybe permanently in some cases, but at least long term. So there are fewer receptor sites. You’re getting depleted. Running on empty on serotonin, which only comes from food by the way. The only way to raise serotonin in the brain is to take a nutrient called tryptophan or 5-hydroxytryptophan. Only two ways to actually raise total brain serotonin. The SSRIs only increase it at the synapse level and that’s temporary, with a lot of damage being done.

That’s why there’s the Prozac “poop-out” concept. All those drugs poop out. They stop working after a month or so. So then you have to raise the dose and now you’re getting even more aggravation. Maybe a little more affect, but then it’s temporary.


RM: But isn’t that the typical pattern with all drugs, whether they’re legal or illegal, that you have to take more to get the effect?

GK: That’s right. That’s true and that’s…they call that tolerance. The psychiatric term is tolerance. You know, it works for awhile and then your body gets tolerant to it and you lose its effect.


RM: You develop a tolerance for these drugs.

GK: Yeah, so you have to increase the dose and then if you try to quit, your brain now is dependent…that’s where the dependency term comes…your brain is dependent on the drug and now you’re going through withdrawal. You’re craving or something’s wrong and the only cure is to take another hit. So if you’re a cocaine addict and you run out of your supply, you’re anxious, you’re searching everywhere for a dealer to get some more cocaine. Or if it’s Ritalin, which is the same as cocaine, molecular structure wise. You’re wanting to get another prescription or go to the street. And if you’re a Zoloft user and you run out of your Zoloft and you’re frantic to get another dose because you’re withdrawing within a day or two or three of some of these medications. So yes, they are addictive.

Everybody…you know if they take it for a short time or if it’s a low dose or you’re well-nourished perhaps and not on any other drugs, maybe you can take it for a few weeks or a few months and then quit cold turkey without a lot of withdrawal symptoms. But when you’ve been on it a long time or a high dose or multiple medications, it’s highly likely that you’re going to have terrible withdrawal symptoms that may make it impossible for you to get off or very difficult to get off without going crazy from the withdrawal.

We all know that picture of the heroine addict that they throw in a padded cell. He just sweats and he vomits and he has pain and he’s just miserable and then he may eventually get a little bit better, but he probably hasn’t. That’s not very good treatment. He needs to be slowly withdrawn. He needs to be well nourished. He needs to be hydrated. He needs to have some nutritional help. And yet we despise heroine addicts. We despise codeine addicts. But we don’t despise Zoloft addicts or Prozac addicts do we. Or Ritalin addicts.


RM: It’s totally acceptable.

GK: Yeah. The legal drugs…my best example…I could show you the structures of cocaine next to Ritalin and the brain doesn’t tell the difference. There’s subtle differences there. One’s synthetic and one’s natural, but the brain can’t tell the difference between the two. Cocaine addicts prefer Ritalin if they can get it in a snortable form. It’s longer acting. You get the same high, the same quick high as cocaine. You can’t tell the difference. It lasts longer.

So Ritalin is probably more dangerous than cocaine. If you take it by mouth, you don’t get this sudden high. It doesn’t go to the brain fast that way as if it was injected or smoked or snorted. But long term, the dangers are probably quite similar. And yet you go to jail if you’re on cocaine.


RM: But you can write me a prescription for Zoloft and won’t be prosecuted.

GK: Right.

RM: Thank you.


SSRI Stories | Antidepressant Nightmares

"We Speak for the Dead to Protect the Living"


Withdrawal can often be more dangerous than continuing on a medication.  It is important to withdraw extremely slowly from these drugs, usually over a period of a year or more, under the supervision of a qualified specialist.  Withdrawal is sometimes more severe than the original symptoms or problems.  

This website is a collection of 4,800+ news stories with the full media article available: - mainly criminal in nature, that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals)  or that were part of FDA testimony in either 1991, 2004 or 2006, in which antidepressants are mentioned. 

This web site focuses on the Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs), of which Prozac (fluoxetine) was the first.  Other SSRIs are Zoloft (sertraline), Paxil (paroxetine) (known in the UK as Seroxat), Celexa (citalopam),  Lexapro (escitalopram), and Luvox (fluvoxamine).  Other newer antidepressants included in this list are Remeron (mirtazapine), Anafranil (clomipramine) and the SNRIs Effexor (venlafaxine), Cymbalta (duloxetine) and Pristiq (desvenlafaxine) as well as the dopamine reuptake inhibitor antidepressant Wellbutrin (bupropion) (also marketed as Zyban).

Although SSRI Stories only features cases which have appeared in the media, starting March 2012 there will be a Website: which will allow personal stories to appear in a different Website from SSRI Stories.  This is the work of Dr. David Healy


The Underlying Cause of Suicides & Homicides with SSRI Antidepressants

Reports of unusual, severe reactions with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor antidepressant drugs (SSRIs) emerged soon after the first SSRI, Prozac, was introduced in 1988. One of my own patients, a woman with a mild depressive disorder and no history of major psychiatric symptoms, became psychotic after just three days on Prozac. Another woman, a highly successful attorney, developed such severe panic attacks that she couldn't work. Such cases were reported so frequently that Congress held hearings on the issue in the early 1990s. But because the hearings got no further than arguing whether SSRIs cause suicidal and homicidal behavior or not, and never looked at the underlying causes, nothing was accomplished.

I have never doubted that SSRIs (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Luvox, Effexor, Sarafem) can provoke impulsive, violent behavior. Now, sixteen years after the first reports, British regulatory authorities have acted against the use of SSRIs in children because of an increased incidence of suicide. This forced the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to take a second look. In early February 2004, a FDA advisory committee heard powerful testimony from bereaved parents and medical experts and issued a call for stronger warnings on the labels of these drugs. The FDA is considering it.



Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging - Full Movie (Documentary)


This video provides the facts about psychotropic drugs and the huge profits they create for the pharmaceutical industry. These drugs are not safe and have not been on the market long enough to provide sufficient long term studies regarding their effects. These drugs do cause addiction, however most "doctors" would call this dependence because you do not have to take an increasing dose over time. They are completely fine with you being addicted to the same amount of any given drug on a daily basis. Over half of the people that commit suicide in the United States are prescribed to psychotropic drugs. (Ex: Paxil (Paroxetine), Zoloft (Sertraline), Prozac, Wellbutrin (Bupropion), Effexor, Seroquil, Ultram (Tramadol), etc.)



SSRIs – Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac & Other Antidepressants


What are SSRI Antidepressants?

SSRI (selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors) Antidepressants are a class of compounds primarily used as antidepressants in the treatment of anxiety disorders, personality disorders and depression-related ailments. The efficacy of these drugs is widely disputed; the magnitude of benefit is contested when compared with placebo extermination. This new-found analysis discarded the majority of FDA-approved antidepressant research, including those that utilized placebo washout periods typically positioned as control groups. 

How Do SSRI Antidepressants Work?

SSRI Antidepressants work (theoretically) in the treatment of depression disorders by altering neurotransmitters (chemical messengers) used to communicate between brain cells. The majority of antidepressants are effective in changing the levels of these naturally-occurring brain chemicals. 

SSRI Antidepressants block the reuptake (reabsorption) of the neurotransmitter serotonin in the human brain. Altering the serotonin levels is thought to help brain cells with their ability to send and receive chemical message, which in turn bolsters the user’s mood. This classification of drugs is labeled “selective” because they will primarily alter serotonin levels and no other neurotransmitters.


How Industry Money Reaches Physicians

Drug companies have long kept secret details of the payments they make to doctors for promoting their drugs. But seven companies have begun posting names and compensation on the Web, some as the result of legal settlements. ProPublica compiled these disclosures, totaling $258 million, into a single database that allows patients to search for their doctor.


PLOS Medicine: Why Most Published Research Findings Are False

Published research findings are sometimes refuted by subsequent evidence, with ensuing confusion and disappointment. Refutation and controversy is seen across the range of research designs, from clinical trials and traditional epidemiological studies [1–3] to the most modern molecular research [4,5]. There is increasing concern that in modern research, false findings may be the majority or even the vast majority of published research claims [6–8]. However, this should not be surprising. It can be proven that most claimed research findings are false. Here I will examine the key factors that influence this problem and some corollaries thereof.


Pharma Marketing Blog

Pharmaguy (@pharmaguy) – also known as John Mack – is the Publisher and Editor of Pharma Marketing News, an independent monthly electronic newsletter focused on issues of importance to pharmaceutical marketing executives.

These are my personal opinions, some of which are also published as articles in Pharma Marketing News with more details.

Pharma Marketing Blog: Selling Sickness: The War Against the Medical-Industrial Complex

I am a fish out of water here at the 2013 Selling Sickness conference in Washington, D.C. Although the theme of the conference -- "People Before Profits" -- resonates with a lot of public relations rhetoric of big pharma companies (e.g., "Merck. Where patients come first"; see here), the speakers and attendees at this conference REALLY mean it!



If you want more proof of the fraudulent FDA - check out - they pull no punches. READ THEIR LATEST DOCUMENTARY ENTITLED "THE CANCER REPORT". We, the American people are duped big time by the System. Further, Scripture warns us that we are not fighting against flesh and blood but against Principalities and Powers (demonic influences) in heavenly places.


This documentary catalogs how allopathic medicine established dominance in the early part of the 20th Century, and how natural medicines were arbitrarily banned from the medical profession, despite the basis of this decision being scientifically unsound. The wholesale transition from natural medicines to chemical ones was based on financial and political reasons, at the expense of the patients.

This documentary exposes the carnage of the cancer industry, the financial interests that molded it, and why it is so resistant to change. Meanwhile, cancer treatments kill more people every year than any war in U.S. history. Cancer patients with no treatment at all statistically live four times longer and have a better quality of life. The Cancer Report also catalogs the histories and procedures of the most popular alternative therapies, which generally have significantly better success rates than standard treatments.

We urge all of our readers to watch this documentary and pass it on to friends and relatives.  It is currently available on Youtube (lower resolution version), and the full 1.5G movie can be downloaded from  The smaller 788 M.B. (yet still high quality) Divx/AVI version of the movie can be downloaded via a bittorrent program and directly from us. The full movie transcript can be found here.


Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients (Book)

By Ray Moynihanand Alan Cassels

“An ill for every pill” - Anne Harding


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:01 | 3253710 Eahudimac
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I Have to take an SSRI to keep it together because I'm one of the professional who DO understand this. I've tried weaning myself off of the stuff. It's not worth the anxiety of watching the country go to shit and while everyone prances along with lollipops and sunshine shoved up thier asses. To top it off, I've been stuck in London (for business) for the past 10 days. Talk about a population asleep at the wheel. I couldn't live here if you paid me to swill ale at the pubs all day. One more day and I will be back on my way to the good ol' American south. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:01 | 3253880 JPM Hater001
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"I couldn't live here if you paid me to swill ale at the pubs all day."

I'll take the job if it's still open.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:20 | 3254075 Tango in the Blight
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Only British pubs close really early (at about 11 o'clock in the evening). So what will you do afterwards, sit at home on the couch with a can of beer in hand watching dross on BBC or ITV?

Forget about taking home a girl, most British girls are butt-ugly. You can't drink enough beer to forget that.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:11 | 3253041 illyia
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Very clever, JPMHater001. And, what is worse is that you are probably right... in a superficial way...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:32 | 3252896 new game
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Cog Dis...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:54 | 3252965 Cognitive Dissonance
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You rang? :)

I've been writing about this very question for several years now here on ZH. And I also don't have the 'answers' for all of them. All I really have is my own personal look within.

We will all go insane (or at least more insane than we currently are) if we try to change that which we cannot. Change on every level begins within. As long as we believe that the problems lay over there we will never recognize our own contributions to the madness.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:08 | 3253025 WillyGroper
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Most people are totally averse to change.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:23 | 3253085 Ratscam
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Most people do not take their time to question things. (ignorance and other preferences "TEEVEE")

Most are so absorbed in life and under constant time constraint, so they cannot reflect on things, not even their own life.

So sad to see that they live like zombies.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:08 | 3253731 Citxmech
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What's also tough is that the kind of change necessary to confront the kind of collapse we're looking at is paradigmatic.  Everyone's been brainwashed to think that to get ahead you just need to run faster on the hamster wheel - until they are barely surviving on 6hrs sleep, paying one entire salary for childcare so somebody else can raise their kids, and they're still broke.  It's hard to look at ones life - even a life that's pretty shitty, and say:  "fuck it - lets get out of the rat race - and have a shittier life (at least by the standard they've been taught)."

Marshall McCluen wisely said:  "advertising doesn't teach you what to think - it teaches you what to think about."  If you are deciding between "Coke" and "Pepsi" - they've already won.

Most folks can't even conceive of moving from the city or suburbia to some rural area with no "jobs" (of the sort they do) and living a hard physical life.  I think most city folk think of people who live like this as lacking a "safety net" - when ironically, it is the exact opposite.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:17 | 3253059 TooBearish
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Most of em think they are part of the "elite" and are exempt from the pain being broadcast onto their social inferiors - think you CD have touchedon this...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:29 | 3253103 Zap Powerz
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Cognotive Dissonance easily occurs when someone lacks skepticism.

There just isnt enough skepticism anymore.  I think ZH has a following of people with a very high skepticism factor.  Most of us here think everything is bullshit. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:10 | 3253285 green888
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However sceptical you become, it will never be enough to keep up

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:15 | 3253309 aardvarkk
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Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:38 | 3253406 Zap Powerz
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Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:31 | 3253801 jumbo maverick
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I know everything IS bullshit until I can prove otherwise

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:04 | 3254037 BigJim
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 ...Most of us here think everything is bullshit.

You mean it might not be?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:34 | 3254114 Tango in the Blight
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Yes here the Netherlands people try to emulate the rich by buying so-called "high status goods". You see 16 year old girls carrying 2000 euro Louis Vuitton bags because all their friends have them and if a classmate doesn't have one they're called a "nerd". Of course daddy has to foot the bill and get into debt a little bit more. The Netherlands is not as bad off debt-wise as the US (many people still have some savings and it's not that easy to get personal credit as in the US, although the mortgage situation is on-par with the US and maybe even worse once the bubble finally bursts) but still many people are up to their ears in debt. And they exhibit the same mentality as mentioned in the article. Everything is rosy and dandy, they live in a nicely decorated house, have two new cars, wear the latest fashion and their kids are spoiled with presents and they look to the government for all the answers. It will be worse than Greece here once the bottom falls out.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:18 | 3253065 max2205
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Cant wait for Dr s to get paid 10 bucks an hour

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:34 | 3253808 11b40
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When that happens, you will probably be making $.40/hr, or there will be no Doctors.  There are plenty of the who I believe are over paid, but plenty who are not.  They have to sacrifice like few other professions, and it is hard.  I would not want to live a doctor's life.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:22 | 3253078 illyia
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I've been writing about this very question for several years now here on ZH.


You certainly have been writing on this central issue all along, CD. Maybe, in the future, you will publish your collected works so that they may get a broader audience. This subject seems as central an issue to good governance - even cultural/human survival - as anything else in our actual (reality-based) mandatory learning arsenal.

Kudos to you. (P.S. - You would be revealed as an actual human, however...)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:50 | 3253138 Cognitive Dissonance
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Any ideas on how I could gauge potential support for such a collected writings edition? Cognitive Dissonance is not exactly mass market friendly.

(PS - Mrs Cog is all too aware how human I am.)   :)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:04 | 3253255 akarc
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Long time fan of yours Cog. I like the way you heavily link your posts to validate and re-enforce what you are saying. Have forwarded your links to many. Most of whom do not read them.

A. They are often long. Most I know don't have attention span enough to read a twit.

B. They often violate the lie many choose to embrace. To violate somebodys lie with the truth destroys their reality. You can watch as they start to recognize the truth. And then faster than you can snap your fingers they re-enforce their reality with more lies and you become the enemy. I've seen in it some of the responses to your posts.

C. If they ever copped to the truth it would mean they would have to take action. They would have to cease blaming the scapegoats and boogeymen that feed their prejudice. They would have to assume responsibility.  My friend, that is why people do not see. They do not want to.

This is not to dissuade you from writing however. Be encouraged. If you turn the light on for one person you have accomplished more than many. I thank  you for your posts.

Now I do know a lady that knows an lady made some pretty good bucks off an 95 page erotic e-book. So she says.




Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:24 | 3253351 Cognitive Dissonance
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Well......Mrs Cog is very excited that I am once again posting articles on Zero Hedge. Maybe I could write a 95 page erotic e-book on how that has improved our sex life. :)

(Mrs Cog just said NOT.)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:41 | 3253420 Hulk
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Hmm, you may have hit paydirt there! Why don't you give us a 5 page sample !!!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:16 | 3253756 delacroix
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listen to mrs. cog.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:36 | 3253813 Cognitive Dissonance
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I'd better if I know what's good for me. :)

Mrs Cog is a very wise old soul when she speaks from within. Much depth and wisdom there.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:40 | 3253822 11b40
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You summed it up well with this:

"They would have to assume responsibility.  My friend, that is why people do not see. They do not want to."

 In the same league with this:


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 17:15 | 3254059 SWRichmond
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"Cognitive Dissonance is not exactly mass market friendly."

I love you, friend.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:44 | 3254289 Manipuflation
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Hey CD, I enjoy your work so thanks for the effort.  How about you create your own blogging website if you don't already have one?  Hell, half of ZHers already have one so finding someone to help should not be hard.(including myself)  You can write under any name you want.  First step, buy a domain name.  If I were you, I would buy yours right away but be careful because WHOIS will list your real name and address until you figure out how you want to go about making it private information.  The Tyler's can help you with that but it is pretty easy to proxy a domain.

Hosting is more complicated issue but I think you know the right people if you think this is a good idea.  Don't host with the same outifit that provides your domain name.(trust me)  Revenue generation by the website, should you persue that angle, would be up to you. When you are ready to launch you would let us know here and those ZHers that enjoy your work would link pimp your site everywhere we go and see what happens.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:26 | 3253583 Anusocracy
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If you are referring to government when stating 'good governance', then that is an oxymoron.

The only good government is no government.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:22 | 3253080 graneros
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Great timing.  I read "Cog Dis" and thought OK where's he at.  Then next post there you are.  I read "You rang? :)" and about pissed myself.  I don't know maybe it's just me but I found it amusing.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:58 | 3253477 1Inthebeginning
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CD.  Have you utilized the Just Noticeable Difference theory–Fechner_law.  Quietness.



Yeshua Hamashiach


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:07 | 3253729 Anusocracy
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Liberals, conservatives, and libertarians have different emphases and applications of morality.

The moral spheres of harm, fairness, community, authority, purity, and liberty are like social tools for survival. Successful behaviors become adaptations in societies whether they are parasitic (authority/government) or beneficial (liberty/free market).

It is interesting that liberals and libertarians rank liberty highly, but in different contexts.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:10 | 3253911 Cathartes Aura
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so very true,

We will all go insane (or at least more insane than we currently are) if we try to change that which we cannot. Change on every level begins within.

merely because there are so many layers of "things" in the world that we have zero power to change.  the one thing we do have is the potential for awareness, and only "one" can expand their own awareness, incre-mentally, over time, into acceptance of what is.

there is a certain peace that come with this, but it does require losing the "ego" that fights for the idea of control over that which can never be controlled.

of course, believing you're in control is very popular. . .

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:52 | 3252969 Antifaschistische
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Doctors & Lawyers have now become recipients of government welfare.   Take away medicare/medicaid and our entire medical system as we know it would collapse. would rebuild, but it would be different.

Lawyers make money due to parasitic laws and a legal system that almost mandates the representation by those who've written the laws.  This is the ultimate parasite class.

Myself a voter, I've never voted in favor of any tax, any bond measure, any spending on anything new, etc.  However, if the rug were pulled out from under all government spending, as a professional I would be dramatically impacted, due to the second/third generational impact of that spending.  

Of course, I say "bring it on", but the extent of the professional parasite class is massive so they have no incentive to be anything other than ignorant.  (and we didn't even mention educators of all shapes and sizes benefiting from massive student loan cash...makes me sick)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:12 | 3253045 WillyGroper
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Doctors are feeling the squeeze & are quitting in droves. Many will not accept medicare/medicaid anymore. Pretty soon there's going to be a severe shortage & the best we'll get is either a PA or NP. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:24 | 3253088 ebworthen
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Pretty soon if they want to have a license to practice any medicine they will have to take medicare/medicaid patients.

I mean, if they can force all of us to pay a premium to private insurance companies or a tax penalty to the IRS they can certainly force Doctors to be Doctors to the forced premium/penalty payers.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:26 | 3253361 dracos_ghost
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Yup. And people don't realize that is the plan. Road to Serfdom and all that.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:12 | 3253537 WillyGroper
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>>>if they want to have a license to practice 

Take away their incentive. Squeeze them between malpractice insurance & reimbursements being cut to the bone, (possible student loans)---------Why would they want to keep a license? No one wants to work for free.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:31 | 3253114 HD
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Pretty soon? Hell, I have not seen an actual doctor in years - always a PA anymore.  Not that it matters - I have more faith in WebMD than I do with the professional pill pushers.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:47 | 3254298 francis_sawyer
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Finally someone talking some sense around here...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 19:58 | 3254453 Manipuflation
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Good, I saw you were heading back here from another thread Francis.  Man, you have been getting hit from all over lately.  I wonder how many people realize that your avatar is from Stripes?  Well, let's put it this way, remember that domain I said I purchased a little of over a week ago? Well, that was not hyperbole.  And now it is a real website, and though hardly finished, is starting to look pretty good.  I have a few good bloggers whom I have met over the years.  I am not going to pimp the site here because the site is not where we want it to be yet. 

Do you like to write is my question?  You clearly have a well written and concise article that really wants to be set free from the confines of your mind and ZH is not the place for you to do it.  I would like to hear the story of how you and your sloop met a disastrous end with all of your hard assets on board.  My site is such a place to explain boating accidents of this nature and that is specifically why I built it.


I am admin there under the same screen name I use here and everywhere else so it's not hard to figure out how to find the site.



Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:30 | 3254705 francis_sawyer
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I gotta admit... I'm better at 'thinking on the fly' than coming up with anchored arguments...


I see the world as 'dynamic' [not static]... Notwithstanding ~ I'd probably be willing to give something a try... Why don't you put your contact info in your user profile...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:13 | 3255024 Manipuflation
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I will just link here then.  I do not want to pimp the site, I do not want legions of idiots overwhelming us before we even begin.  Still working on some details though but this seems a good start.  A penny(zinc) for your thoughts.  All I really want are some good writers who aren't afraid to say what needs to be said.  I am funding everything here as a private citizen.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 14:36 | 3253412 Jena
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It will be a bifurcated system, even moreso than it is now.  The overall masses will see PAs and NPs.  They'll be overseen by a doctor who will be responsible for all the care that goes on under his/her auspices.  (Nightmare.)

Those who can afford it will go to a concierge doctor.  They'll have same day or next day appointments, telephone and email access and maybe even house calls.  They'll still deal with the insurance but they'll pay a premium on top of that for the privilege of seeing a doctor when they're sick.

There won't be any in between.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:10 | 3253737 cxl9
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Yes, precisely. As with all government "services" we will end up with a twice-pay system. You will pay the government for the crappy service you don't use, and then pay someone else privately for the service you do use. Examples are legion.

Education: you pay your property taxes, but the public schools are hopeless. If you want to give your child a decent education, you're forced to send her to private school, and pay for it.

Police protection: you pay for police, but most businesses hire private security firms at additional expense, rather than relying on the government. Citizens concerned about personal safety live in gated communities with private security.

Justice system: you pay for the courts, but good luck getting access if you need to settle a dispute. Cases drag on for years without resolution. Most litigants will opt for mediation (at $400/hour) if available.

I could go on and on. Mail delivery, transportation, etc., etc. Eventually health care will be the same way. You'll get to pay something like 17% of your income for government health care, but it will be unusable. If you want decent quality care, you will be forced to contract with a private provider at additional expense.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:25 | 3253787 Antifaschistische
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...and I believe in paying for what you get, but if we have to pay for education, security, justice, mail, transportation, etc...shouldn't our taxes be LESS than they were 40 years ago?   We're privatizing the public services to subsidize the massive welfare state...and the welfare state is winning.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:50 | 3253846 11b40
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We are also 'privitizing' and doling out corporate welfare like crazy.

The Post Office is a good example.  Not allowed to compete with FedEx or UPS, and forced to pay huge sums to fund the retirement program, unlike any other quasi-government or private corporation.  Just wait until Congress finally puts them out of business.  Then see how much it takes to get something delivered.  Freaking FedEx has gone throught the roof in the past couple of years.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 16:24 | 3253939 Cathartes Aura
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when one realises the postal service has traditionally hired "veterans" in percentages higher than the public average, the notion that "retirement programs" are just another ledger entry under a different heading brings a wry smile.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:20 | 3253772 delacroix
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doctors become medical brokers?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:01 | 3253081 MachoMan
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As a member and/or beneficiary of multiple professional classes, I think your premise is incredibly accurate in sentiment, but ultimately flawed...  I don't believe you can call it willful ignorance, rather it is clearly paid for incentive to continue the status quo.  Further, this applies to ALL participants in the system...  or the vast majority.  Through our monetary policy, everyone is incentivized to continue it...  The only thing anyone is complaining about is how much of the tribute payments they receive...  and, it really isn't an issue of absolute values, but instead is based in equity theory...  people simply want to have the same relative level of wealth as others.

I also think this is largely a function of intellectual rent seeking.  People who have higher intellectual capacities to manage modern living's complexities can seek rent and benefit from the system the more complex it becomes.  Essentially, keeping up with all the complexities becomes a sifter, ensuring that those who are able bodied and willing to work (but not intellectually well endowed) tend to be forced into lower rungs of society...  The regulatory and legal system is front and center of this barrier to entry...  it's the creator of the great sifter.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:39 | 3254277 Tango in the Blight
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If your livelyhood depends on NOT KNOWING you WILL NOT KNOW!

That's why Krugman spouts the shit he presents as truth.

I bet the mofo has stacked up enough PMs for his retirement.


Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:59 | 3252990 Freddie
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I have been harping about it but the masses are brainwashed by TV, Hollywood and the media.   They have no clue.   Everyone loves the emperor because he is shuch a nice hip guy.

Pull the plug on TV (cable/sat), boycott hollywood, newspapers, related media properies like Disney World, Universal, the cruise ship lines, et al.   Starve the beast or support it.  Your choice.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:30 | 3253106 Imminent Crucible
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By all means, starve the beast. But remember that the hungrier it gets, the more desperate and dangerous it will become.  I've been traveling, choosing a bugout location.

I may need it for a few months, or for the rest of my life. You can never tell how long the monster will take to die, but it will not go gentle into that good night. The elite scum at the top of the pond will gladly see the rest of us dead if they can only hang on to their position of power and privilege.

The key criterion is to look for a place that has seen little growth or profit from the Dragon of Leveraged Fiat Growth. When it dies, the places that have were sputtering along without it will continue to sputter along about the same as before. Make sure they have water, farming, cerveza. The bigger the informal economy, the better chances you have of getting what you need.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:30 | 3253379 Optimusprime
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Very sensible.  I reasoned similarly 40 years ago, and have not had reason to regret it.  Good luck in your search.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 18:50 | 3254306 francis_sawyer
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Orangeburg County, SC

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 09:05 | 3255661 11b40
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York Co., SC

In the woods. Long gravel driveway off a 2 mile long dead-end road that ends at the Catawba River.  Maybe not bulet proof, but pretty much invisible.

45 minutes to the Charlotte airport with just a handfull of red lights.  My partner and office manager have offices here, and also have home offices.  Several active Farmers Markets in the general area.  "Pick your own" farms, too.

225' foot well that hits water after 75'.

Almost heaven.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 11:33 | 3252897 I am more equal...
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Sounds like the democratic platform...... we're fine, go on with your lives.... we are in control and there is no need to wait, watch or worry... again, we're fine.  Rinse and repeat.  Everthing is fine until it isn't.....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 12:58 | 3253236 Drachma
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This strikes at the heart of the matter. Education in any discipline is purposely hyper-compartmentalized, rather than holistic. Outside of their squared-circles, many professors are, with all due respect, the most ignorant lot there is. To add insult to injury, most often what they teach (or preach) is dogma, not science. They are effectively zombies, the walking-dead. They stop thinking for themselves and instead adhere to the group-think of their cherished institutions, the same institutions these professors are beholden to for their livelihood. They are conditioned to believe they are experts, and this gives them justification to stop putting effort into learning the truth, since by virtue of their titles and appointments they should already know the truth, and are perceived as infallible by the rabble . In truth there are no experts, just staunch believers.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 13:32 | 3253388 Optimusprime
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A former colleague of mine expressed his skepticism about "experts":  "What is an expert?  Sounds like a combination of a has-been and a drip under pressure!"

A classic.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:32 | 3253803 OldPhart
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"Expert" used to be defined as some fool fifty miles from home with a briefcase.

Pretty sure it still applies.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 15:30 | 3253796 Stuntgirl
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They are conditioned to believe they are experts, AND to impart to their students that they will be nobodies unless they are specialists.

I remember this being brought up repeatedly in class during my university years. I was used as an example of a future nobody, because I was studying my second university degree, unrelated to the first.

When I defended my position, and it became clear that I had taken 7 non interrelated A-level equivalents, 3 of my proffessors thought it was funny to dub me "the dilettante generalist", and called me that, humorously, for the remaining 2 years.


My point is that during that time I witnessed how terror of non-specialization was hammered into 2000+ students, daily. By teachers/proffessors who actually bragged about not reading fiction/not understanding math/art/politics....

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