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Horsemeat Scandal Goes Global As World's Largest Food Maker Pulls Tainted Pasta From Spain And Italy

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First it was Ireland, then the entire UK, then Germany, and gradually it spread to all of Europe (except for France of course, where it was always a delicacy). But it was only once its finally crossed the Alps and made its way to the Swiss factories of Nestle, the world's largest food maker, did the horsemeat scandal truly go global. The FT reports that "the escalating horsemeat scandal has ensnared two of the biggest names in the food industry, Nestlé, the world’s number-one food maker, and JBS, the largest beef producer by sales. Switzerland-based Nestlé on Monday removed pasta meals from shelves in Italy and Spain and suspended deliveries of all processed products containing meat from German supplier, H.J. Schypke, after tests revealed traces of horse DNA above 1 per cent. Nestlé said it had informed the authorities....Nestlé withdrew two chilled pasta products, Buitoni Beef Ravioli and Beef Tortellini from sale in Italy and Spain. Lasagnes à la Bolognaise Gourmandes, a frozen meat product for catering businesses produced in France, will also be withdrawn."

And now we wait as the panic spreads across the Atlantic to the US, where every food purist, who until recently stuffed themselves full of pink slime and still eats bucketfulls of the mysterious "meat" known as KFC, will accuse their retailer of horseplay, and demand that every burger be triple tested at massive bottom line losses to already profit-strapped food producers everywhere (but will certainly help Madison Avenue as horse ads become the latest advertising meme).

From the FT:

“We are also enhancing our existing comprehensive quality assurance programme by adding new tests on beef for horse DNA prior to production in Europe,” said Nestlé, which just last week said products under its labels were not affected.

The European food industry has already been crippled as the horsemeat scandal unfolds:

Nielsen, the consumer research group, said sales of frozen burgers in the week to February 2 fell 40 per cent, and more than two-thirds of British adults said they would be less likely to buy frozen meat products in the future.

 

Two people who attended the meeting described it as “constructive”. However, the minister was challenged by several people on how quickly the Food Standards Agency and the Department of Environment acted on intelligence it had received on the food supply chain. One retailer also said an attack by David Cameron on the supermarkets on Friday “had not necessarily been helpful”.

 

The testing, which some supermarkets already carry out, will mean extra costs for retailers at a time of weak consumer confidence.

 

Suppliers reckon they will end up bearing the brunt of the cost – adding to the pressure on margins which, some say, caused the problem in the first place.

 

“The people who in the end will suffer are the food manufacturers, because they will be forced to undertake testing. And the people with the power in this relationship on the whole are the food retailers,” said one industry player.

 

Many believe equine testing is just the tip of the iceberg. “I am sure this will rapidly move on to other species,” said Adam Couch, chief executive of Cranswick, a meat and pastry goods supplier, which has not been implicated in the scandal.

This is good news for KFC, because once the testing spreads to Yum's restaurant chain, half the DNA that is consumed on the premises will be found to have no earthly basis, and thus, well, "you must acquit".

As for those who are still a lap behind the latest newsflow in the race for the horsemeat-free trifecta, the Guardian has conveniently released the definitive guide to the Equine scandal.

Horsemeat scandal: the essential guide

With the Europewide scandal over the contamination of meat products, from beefburgers to lasagne, showing no sign of abating, study the issue in depth and learn all you need to know about how it came to this with our essential guide.

1. Where did the horsemeat scandal begin?

The Food Safety Authority of Ireland tested a range of cheap frozen beefburgers and ready meals from supermarkets last November for the presence of DNA from other species which were undeclared. It found horse DNA in over one-third of the beefburger samples, and pig in 85% of them.

The majority of the beef ready meals also contained pig DNA but not horse. One beefburger sample from Tesco turned out to be 29% horse instead of beef. Until then supermarkets and enforcement bodies had not tested for horse in beef products, because no one expected it to be there.

There are conflicting reports as to whether the agency began its investigation as random surveillance or after having been tipped off. Because the findings were so serious and likely to do huge damage to commercial interests, the FSAI then spent two months retesting before announcing its findings on 15 January.

The Irish and UK supermarket supply chains are highly integrated. FSAI says it alerted the UK Food Standards Agency in November since what was on sale in Ireland would also be on sale in the UK; the FSA told MPs that it only found out in January. No one knows how long the adulteration has gone on.

2. Where did the horse and pig found by the Irish in beef products come from?

The Irish survey identified three factories as the source of beef products that had been contaminated or adulterated: Silvercrest Foods in Ireland, Dalepak in Yorkshire and Liffey Meats in Ireland. Silvercrest and Dalepak are both subsidiaries of ABP Food Group, one of the largest beef processors in Europe.

ABP pointed the finger of blame at its continental suppliers, with the FSAI saying these were in the Netherlands and Spain. It later said the horsemeat had entered its chain through suppliers in Poland. The Polish government checked its horse slaughterhouses and found no irregularities in labelling. Five weeks into the scandal and the links in the Irish chain have still not been fully established.

Huge blocks of frozen meat at a cold store in Northern Ireland, Freeza Foods, which had been quarantined by officials suspicious of its labelling and state of packaging, were found to contain 80% horse. Freeza Foods said the meat blocks had been delivered to its store by meat broker McAdam Foods but that it had rejected them and only continued storing them as a "goodwill" measure for McAdam. McAdam said it in turn had been sold them by a meat trader in Hull, Flexi Foods, which imports from Poland and elsewhere. ABP confirmed it had been supplied materials by McAdam but the two companies have given conflicting accounts of what the deliveries have been.

ABP has also confirmed that it has been supplied with beef by Norwest Foods, based in Cheshire, with operations in Poland and Spain, which is now also part of FSA inquiries.

The first case of horsemeat being found in fresh beef surfaced this week, when Asda withdrew its fresh beef bolognese. Its supplier was the Irish company Greencore, which said it had in turn been supplied the meat by ABP.

3. Why did some products contain so much more horse than others?

Industry sources and food safety officials believe there are different types of adulteration taking place. Where trace levels of DNA of the wrong species, particularly pig, have been found in beef, the most likely explanation is that they have been contaminated either by failure to clean production lines thoroughly enough between different processing, or that the DNA is present in protein additives widely used in the industry to bulk out cheap so-called value or economy ranges. An economy beefburger can legally contain as little as 47% beef.

Manufacturers add other cheap ingredients including water and fat, and use concentrated proteins to bind the water and fat in. They may appear on labels as "seasoning". One of the cheapest sources of these protein additives is pork rind. It is possible that horse hide is now also being used. The widespread adulteration of cheap chicken breast with pig and beef proteins and water has been uncovered in previous scandals. The beef proteins were derived from hydrolysed cattle hides. It is not illegal to use these protein concentrates so long as they are identified correctly to the manufacturer.

Where horse has been found above trace levels, however, experts believe they are looking at fraudulent substitution of horse for beef. Where horse has been found in high concentrations, they say it suggests industrial scale adulteration.

4. How did the rest of Europe get involved?

Once the Irish authorities had reported their findings, the UK FSA asked industry to test all its beef products for horse. The next round of tests revealed that the "beef" in frozen lasagne and spaghetti bolognese made for Tesco, Aldi and Findus by a French manufacturer, Comigel, was up to 100% horse.

Comigel was making cheap beef meals for supermarkets and branded companies in 16 different countries so the scandal spread rapidly, with horsemeat meals being withdrawn in Germany, Sweden, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, as well as Ireland and the UK.

5. Is the source of the Irish horsemeat the same as the French one?

The trail of the French manufacturing scandal has taken a different route to the Irish/British one so far. Comigel had subcontracted its ready meal production to a factory in Luxembourg, Tavola. It was supplied with meat by a company called Spanghero. Spanghero had bought meat from a Dutch fraudster already convicted of passing horse off as beef, Jan Fasen.

The Dutch trader ran a company called Draap, which spelled backwards is paard or Dutch for horse. It was registered in Cyprus in 2008, with an offshore vehicle in the British Virgin Islands. It emerged during Fasen's trial in Holland that he had supplied French companies with horsemeat imported from South America and Mexico fraudulently labelled as Dutch and German "beef" going back to 2007.

The horsemeat found in the recent tests on ready meals exported from France was said to have been sourced by Draap from Romania. The Romanian government has said its meat was legally exported correctly labelled as horse. The French government said Spanghero was the first agent to stamp the horse as beef; Spanghero has denied doing so deliberately. Fasen says Spanghero and French manufacturers were in on the deception from the beginning.

6. Why are the supply chains so complex?

The food and retail industries have become highly concentrated and globalised in recent decades. A handful of key players dominate the beef processing and supermarket sectors across Europe. They have developed very long supply chains, particularly for their economy lines, which enable them to buy the ingredients for processed foods from wherever they are cheapest at any point, depending on exchange rates and prices on the global commodity markets. Networks of brokers, cold stores operators and subcontracted meat cutting plants have emerged to supply rapidly fluctuating orders "just in time". Management consultants KPMG estimate there are around 450 points at which the integrity of the chain can break down.

7. Why has it happenened?

Supermarket buyers and big brands have been driving down prices, seeking special offers on meat products as consumers cut back on their spending in the face of recession. The squeeze on prices has come at a time when manufacturers' costs have been soaring. Beef prices have been at record highs as has the price of grain needed to feed cattle. The cost of energy, heavily used in industrial processing and to fuel centralised distribution chains, has also soared. There has been a mistmatch between the cost of real beef and what companies are prepared to pay.

8. How is the meat industry regulated?

Licensed slaughterhouses across Europe are required to have an official vet in attendance when slaughtering takes place – in the UK most used to be directly employed by the government but many are now supplied under contract to the Food Standards Agency by the private company Eville & Jones. Plants over a certain size are also required to have a meat hygiene inspector. A trend to deregulate and leave industry to police itself, begun under the last government, has seen numbers of inspectors fall from 1,700 at the height of the BSE crisis to around 800 now. Smaller cutting plants are no longer subject to daily inspection. The Food Standards Agency has limited powers – it has depended on industry alerting it to the results of tests voluntarily. Enforcement largely falls to individual local authorities and their trading standards officers, and their budgets have been slashed.

9. What about industry claims that it has full traceability?

The industry has previously boasted that it has full traceability of its supply chain which it audits frequently. The current scandal shows that that traceability is not worth the paper it is generally written on. Most of the factories caught up in the scandal have accreditation with mainstream auditing schemes such as that run by the British Retail Consortium but it failed to spot the problem.

10. What happened to government control of food safety and standards?

The Food Standards Agency was set up in the wake of the BSE crisis when it became clear that one agency that co-ordinated all regulation on food safety and quality was needed. Political memories have been short, however. The coalition government broke up much of the FSA in its bonfire of the quangos, so that responsibility in the current scandal is split. The FSA is still in charge of food safety; the Department of Health is responsible for nutritional standards, and the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs covers labelling and veterinary medicines.

11. Where do the horses come from?

The Polish and Romanian governments have not only protested their innocence of exporting horse as beef but also pointed out that their horse slaughtering industries are not large enough to account for the scale of adulteration that is emerging. Respected animal welfare organisations have warned governments for several years about the growing trade in knackered horses both between Ireland, the UK, France and Belgium, and between North and South America, and continental Europe. Much of the latter is landed via Belgium. The welfare charities have documented horses in the thousands that have been moved by networks of horse dealers without proper passports. They are a mixture of horses bred for racing and pets.

12. What part do UK horse abattoirs play?

There is an established transport corridor for horses for slaughter from Ireland through Scotland or Wales to England and on to Europe. Last week a horse abattoir in Yorkshire, Peter Boddy, was raided along with a Welsh meat trading company. Three men have been arrested on suspicion of offences under the Fraud Act. The Peter Boddy abattoir, now closed, was small, with official records showing it slaughtered 44 horses last year.

13. Why are governments talking about organised crime?

Previous convictions of dealers and traders along with intelligence suggest a link between the horse trade, meat laundering and various forms of trafficking. Lorries transporting horses have been used as cover for smuggling large quantities of cannabis between the UK and Northern Ireland and lorries transporting horsemeat to the continent are believed to be used for people smuggling on the return journey.

14. Is it a health problem?

The government said at first that there was no health risk from horsemeat, but a leading government public analyst pointed out that it could not be sure until it knew the source of the horsemeat. The latest advice from the chief medical officer is that there is a risk but that it is very low.

Horses are routinely treated with an anti-inflammatory drug called phenylbutazone, or "bute". Bute is banned from the human food chain, because it can in rare cases cause a potentially life threatening illness, aplastic anaemia, or bone marrow failure. Since it is not known what triggers the illness, it has not been possible to set any safe level for bute residues in human food. Doses from horsemeat are likely to be very low. Horse passports are supposed to record any bute administered so that animals can be excluded from going for food, but with large numbers of fake passports in circulation, some horses containing bute have been eaten.

Since the scandal the government has changed the rules so that horse carcasses may now only be released for consumption once they have been tested for bute. The first batch of tests found around 4% of horse testing positive. The horse trade from the Americas has similarly been bedevilled by problems with horse passports and drug contamination.

 


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Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:45 | Link to Comment SHEEPFUKKER
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He said "taint". 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:53 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Bon appetaint!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:59 | Link to Comment DJ Happy Ending
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Socialism and psychopaths at work, hand in hand.

I wonder how many tons of horse and donkey meat were sold as beef in the Soviet Union and no one knew the difference.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:59 | Link to Comment Stackers
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Wiiilber

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Hulk
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A horse is a horse, the main course, of course, 

And no one can cook a horse of course 

That is, of course, unless the cook is the galloping gourmet !!!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment redpill
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They really need to corral up those responsible for this.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:18 | Link to Comment redpill
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They should force the EU politicians to bring this to the floor with a simple yea or neigh vote.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment redpill
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And come to think of it, a Gallup poll to see how this is impacting consumer attitudes would be appropriate.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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Stop horsing around, this is a serious issue........

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:41 | Link to Comment Goldilocks
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Wild Horses - The Rolling Stones 1995
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhVLiHPUOIM (5:21)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 04:28 | Link to Comment Boris Alatovkrap
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Stop nagging, maybe is just send food product to Russia and former Soviet State where is enjoy good meat from horse, cow, sheep, cat, or dog.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:06 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Where did all these damn horses come from?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:12 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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In new EU & U.S.S.A., horse DNA seeks out & attaches to you!

Stouffer's Horse Stroganoff & Romano's Bolognaaaays sauce; find them in your EBT comrade grocer's freezer section.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:45 | Link to Comment Mugatu
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"A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse"'

Written by a drunk coed at Univ of North Carolina in 1980

Strangely it makes more sense now than ever!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:56 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Maybe using horse meat was the only way they could avoid galloping inflation.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 04:18 | Link to Comment Rogue Trooper
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+1,000 the lot of you !! LMHO

Mind you 'horse' is better than Cat food which they will dish out at the FEMA Camp.....

Will be looked back as "the good times". :/

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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LOL! The punnage will never stop!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:06 | Link to Comment Angus McHugepenis
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Geezuz man, change your avatar quick, or you're next!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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I'm good! As long as American's come over the border, I'm safe. The herpes is a bitch though, but that's the price of a good show. Who makes a Donkey condom?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Kinda explains why Euro-Politicians are acting like a passle of horses-asses -- you are what you eat!

:>D

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Speaking of corrals, makes you wonder what they are really serving up at the Golden Corral...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:38 | Link to Comment booboo
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glad to see they have finally reined in the Mad Cow problem. 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:19 | Link to Comment redpill
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Does she still have a show on MSNBC?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:53 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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   Redpill I think the world of you. What in the hell are you doing watching  MSM bullshit?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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He's making a Becky Quick joke. Oviously Warren Buffett eats horse, at the Y Corral....

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:12 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  I like your  "Donkey Show".

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:37 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Every time I drive by a Golden Corral, the parking lot is packed and I see enormous fat people lined up out the door. Little do they know they're next in line in the "alternative meat" supply chain.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:49 | Link to Comment Mugatu
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Chocolate Wonderfall at the Golden Corral is a fucking sight to see!  First time it made me cry.  Only in America bitches!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:54 | Link to Comment Squid Vicious
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In a couple of years (months?) the 99%rs will be ecstatic at the chance to chow down on some horse flank

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:11 | Link to Comment San Diego Gold Bug
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Nothing a little Heinz 57 can't fix.......or is it Buffet 57 sauce now?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Long Equine futures; the new "filet mignon" of Europe and America.

Long Nutria (aka myocastor coypus; aka "river rat" futures; the new "hamburger."

And a friendly reminder in the event things goes really south (which it's looking like they will since the average American has negative real savings), 8 out of 10 cannibals think Japanese People taste the best:

Cannibals: Japanese People Taste The Best | Geekologie
Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Horseshit by day... Horsemeat by night...

~~~

Anyway, like I was sayin', horse is the fruit of the land. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. There's uh, horse kabobs, horse creole...

[next day]

horse gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple horse, lemon horse, coconut horse, pepper horse...

[next day]

horse soup, horse stew, horse salad, horse in potatoes, horse burger, horse sandwich. That-that's about it.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:32 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Big deal.

I've been eating Horsey Sauce on my Arby's since I was a kid.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:22 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Zoomed right over yer haid, didn' it?  :>DDD

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Hulk
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and they are best eaten raw, as long as the chef doesn't nick the gallbladder...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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And if anyone thinks there's no "nay-aay-aaay-snort-hoof clop" in U.S. distributed foods by such large, multinational food comglomerates as mentioned above, that's the ultimate in NEIGH-ivete.

Mr. EdMcNuggets, bitchez.

p.s. - Legend has it that bankster long pork is the most succulent and tender of all long pork, since their muscles are so under-exercised.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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If this thing reallly gets out of hand, watch for Muslim anger at the Pork DNA in the meat. It would mean that they have consumed the "most" forbidden food. Could get ugly for the retailers.

Second, best to go vegetarian at this time. Meat is another addiction, not at all a necessary part of our food-chain/diet.

It is a"dominion" food. All meat supply-chains are diseased now,fish with mercury and other heavy metal toxins as an example.

The vegetarian life is a simpler life.

Eat local too. The convenience of packaged foods is just not worth the risk, especially in these times.

More controls are definitely not the answer either.

Another thought, imagine how long this has been going on and the implications there-of. How long has CJD beef in the food supply chain, given that there seems little to no honesty in the system anyways.

Food for thought and stomach, eh?

ori

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:30 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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It ain't kosher at all. But that's what fractional fiat monetary mechanics (aka private banking entities owning sovereign governments and running the "monetary" pool table) does, bitchez....that's what it does....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:40 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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Interesting thing TIS is also that people make fun of India and China for their lack of "governance" and "controls" and general lack of honesty.

I think if one looks at scandals like this and the decades long and ongoing attack on human health by the pharma complex/FDA complicity as another example, it seems the truth in darkness is that proles all over the world, black brown or white are treated with equal disdain and exposed to reckless endangerment by the lust for money.

Truly, one world.

ori

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:45 | Link to Comment Hulk
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c'mon ORI, this is a serious thread...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:13 | Link to Comment CompassionateFascist
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well, at least no Chinese dog/cat DNA has ben "discovered" in the "beef"...yet. By the way, Where IS the beef? 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 09:15 | Link to Comment strangewalk
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I lived in rural China and I can say for a fact that absolutely NOTHING is wasted. There aren't too many horses, but no African or Amazonian tribe has a stronger tradition of cannibalism, and Chinese culture has no religious or cultural qualms against it. Can you imagine how many people die in China everyday?...and to really think those millions of pounds of weighted protein additive are being overlooked $$$...by untold numbers of poorly regulated meat processing plants taking shipments in the middle of the night?  

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 00:21 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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I've been to many provinces and municipalities in China, and can say with full confidence that Cantonese, in particular, will eat anything that is alive or once was.  Protein is protein, and there are a lot of mouths to feed in China, so it stands to reason...

(This is not a moral judgment nor statement, but an observation.)

 

p.s. I don't mind being junked (really), but am always curious why a comment like this would elicit junks. I essentially stated the core truth that because people requite protein, and because China has so many mouths to feed, Cantonese Chinese make the best of their plight in obtaining necessary protein. And who can fault them for that?

Maybe some took offense because I specifically referenced Cantonese and not Mandarin or other subsets of Chinese?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:52 | Link to Comment Teamtc321
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Ori to each their own, I know. But you can find local rancher's depending on where you live, go in half's with someone, get a good spring fed steer, have the steer taken to a LOCAL butcher to be processed. Split the steer with someone or take the whole thing.

 

This is common where I'm from anyway. Much safer, I know the local meat cutter, he and his wife work slow but the place is spotless, not just spotless, fucking spotless, you can go into the small shop's and look around. Our local small shop has glass where you can see into the back as well. And, I raise the steer's we use lol. Nothing but good grass and coastal bermuda hay went into that steer.

 

I would eat horse shit before I ate horse anyway. I would go 100% veggie before I ate any horse. My Horses are smarter than most people I know. Fucker's sneaking horse into the food chain,  should be roped and drug across a very long pasture, through cactus and rocks. I might even volunteer to flip the loop if it was a bankster lol.

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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I hear you TeamTc. Absolutely to each their own. And if you do know your source and there is a degree of humane-ness in the animals rearing, go for it. That was the local part of what I said.

That said, I've been a rider for 30 years now and cannot imagine a horse being slaughtered for meat. Even how "lame" horses are put down without a thought is troubling.

So, I feel a special revilsion with this story.

But if there is one thing I've learned, again and again, there is no common moral code for the world except at the deepest, most axiomatic levels.

All else is culture and acculturated morality.

To each his/her own.

ori

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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All those opposed, say NEIGH!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 05:20 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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I see John Kerry didn't like the joke.  But why the long face?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:11 | Link to Comment Piranhanoia
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Rat roast,  coyote chops,  donkey pecker,  uncooked wild pig everything. Mad Cow, goat, horse, pig, and anything else the slaughter houses can get.  It is sold everywhere because cows are now so diseased they have to use more antibiotic every year, and it works less and less of the time, except to fuck you up.  How many immigrants do you figure are mixed in?   Keep eating it, yum.  It will kill you almost as fast as they killed what you ate.  Mutiny on the Bounty bitches.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:16 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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A potentially carcinogenic drug may have entered the human food chain through meat from horses slaughtered in the UK, Labour has claimed.

The shadow environment secretary, Mary Creagh, told the Commons she had evidence that several horses slaughtered in the UK last year tested positive for phenylbutazone.

Her claim comes days after the separate revelation that burgers sold by some supermarkets contained traces of horsemeat.

Creagh said: “I am in receipt of evidence showing that several horses slaughtered in UK abattoirs last year tested positive for phenylbutazone, or bute, a drug which causes cancer in humans and is banned from the human food chain. It is possible that those animals entered the human food chain.”

http://rtfitchauthor.com/tag/horsemeat/

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:52 | Link to Comment Whoa Dammit
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Pure propaganda. You would pretty much have to eat an entire horse every day to have any ill effects from bute.

From Phenylbutazone in the horse: a review:

" Phenylbutazone is highly bound (greater than 98%) to plasma protein. After i.v. injection, blood levels decline with an elimination half-life of 3-10 h. The plasma kinetics of phenylbutazone may be dose dependent, with the plasma half-life increasing as the drug dosage level increases. Plasma residues of the drug at 24 h after a single i.v. dose of 2 g/450 kg average about 0.9 microgram/ml, but considerable variation occurs. If dosing is repeated, the plasma residue accumulates to give mean residual blood levels of approximately 4.5 microgram/ml on Day 5 after 4 days of dosing. Approximately similar blood levels are found after a combination of oral and i.v. dosing."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3517382

Bute is being used in research to prevent cancer:

"Phenylbutazone may be of interest regarding research into anti-proliferative effects as well, especially in colorectal cancer studies. In studies with human colon cancer cell lines investigating anti-proliferative capabilities of NSAIDs, Phenylbutazone was noted to have intermediate anti-proliferative potency as compared to other NSAIDs."

http://www.scbt.com/datasheet-204843-phenylbutazone.html

 

That being said, for personal reasons I wouldn't want to eat  horse meat and object strongly to the food industry foisting it on people who believe they are buying a quite different product.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:44 | Link to Comment Miffed Microbio...
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Agree Whoa, Bute is heavily used in the horse industry but the percentages of horse meat contamination cited here would not be dangerous to humans. The issue is fraud not public health. I for one would never wish to eat horse meat. I have had horses for 40 years. They are very different from bovines; sensitive, perceptive and quick. The slaughtering process would be terrifying to them. I know many would have a " parts is parts" view but those of us who know horses would feel differently. Funny thing is a few days ago my vet told me our area was home to 15,000 horses just 7 years ago and we now have 2,500. At $15-20/ bale of hay this made sense but I do wonder if USA has contributed to this in some way.

Miffed;-)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 03:05 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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> The issue is fraud not public health.

But how the story is presented here one is lead to believe the main issue is public health and that there's something inherently wrong with (all) horse meat.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 03:03 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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Bravo and thanks for the info.

Finally someone who doesn't groupthink!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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Being defrauded about the meat cannot be the problem either. The world (including the EU) is saturated with fraud from banking to the real estate markets, so I doubt that's it. It's something on a deeper psychological level then fraud or bute. It also cannot be the "quality" of the food since KFC and McD are just as packed at the counters in Europe as anywhere else. These are both 'knee jerk reactions.'  It may be a deep emotional attachment to horses....I don't know.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 10:47 | Link to Comment swiss chick
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Once in awhile TPTB have to show us how much they take care of us, NO?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:42 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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donkey pecker... Damn, you let the secret out... Now everyone will know what they do after the donkey show in Tijuana.

All I can say is... DO NOT eat the tacos down there!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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I just have a smoke, and think about how that poor girl lost her dignity in front of a large group of american men. A donkey show is one thing, but testifing before congress is enough for poor Hilliary Clinton. As least the glasses wipe off..............

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:29 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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TDS... Welcome, I thought I might get a rise out of you on this one.

I think even if we were to prove Hitlery actually "liked the donkeys," (they gotta be better than Slick Willey!) she would just shrug it off by proclaiming, "What difference does it make!"

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:01 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Don't diss slick Willey, he was great! As for Hitlery, fist, donkey dick, it's all large and in charge, so who's to call the little boundaries? If you were slick Willey, would you donkey show Hitlery? Not without the horsey sauce.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:07 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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What a hoot! But I'm sure Hitlery would oooze plenty of her own sauce (juice) once the donkey mounted her!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:11 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Also, we be wee-weeding up here right now. Gotta smoke at the show, before I disgrace the ho. If the ho don't fit, the show must acquit. 

 

(I'm imagining defending this joke in a GOVT trial several years from now. Not an easy sell....) 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:20 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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What trial? They won't even bother with a re-education camp for us... we'll be first against the wall... and then, Ready, Aim, Fire!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:29 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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From yer typical Bureaucrat:  "Ready, Fire, Aim!"

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:32 | Link to Comment Overfed
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Malthus, bitchez!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 07:02 | Link to Comment BorisTheBlade
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Horseshit!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment Elliott Eldrich
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"You'll ALL be eating roach crap by the turn of the century!" - "Bob" in a fight with his neighbors, according to the writings of the Church of the Subgenius.

Meh, so he was off by a decade or so. He screwed up on X-day too. You learn to take the fuckups with the slack when you walk the random path of the Subgenii...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:28 | Link to Comment JOYFUL
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There's a scandal going on here alright, but not all what it's being made out to be...

the bute thing is a joke...a made up excuse for a worry...there's so little compared to the massive amounts of hormones and antibiotics in 'normal' meat products that the whole thing is identical to the way neo-con sionazis obombats shed crocodile tears about how 'the people' of Libya-Syria-fill in next blank here- must be 'protected from their oppressive dictator leaders' so we'll just send in these mad dog jihadists to save them, whilst they drone 'the people' of Afghanistan-Pakistan-fill in your neighborhood here- to save them/you from the mad dog jihadists!!!!!

The real scandal is this...

the uproar over horsemeat in food supply is due to the instintive revulsion still lodged in the Europoid DNA for this misuse of our closest and dearest companions and helpmates of millenia....the real misnamed "indo-aryans" of our storied past were buried along with their horse...not the bizarre deteriorated phenomena of suttee of the Hindu aryan...in recognition of our four-legged friends position at the heart and soul of our culture and security.

All over Eurasia we roamed as warriors and freemen, based soley/souly upon mastery of stirrup and spear. The deepest most instinctive fear of the cabbalist criminal cabal now destroying the west is the lodged memory of the horsemen  who ended their slaver empire in the Volga swamps and sent them packing in search of a real livelihood.

Invention of weapons of mass killing potential like the machine gun have been at the behest and to the enormous financial and social benefit of these anti-social millenialist lunatics...whose first actions when in control of Rus(as sionist Bolshies)was to preside over the mega destruction of the Cossack Tatar cavalries which had thundered over the steppes for centuries. And the West suffered the same fate with WWI, posion gases, and the elimination of the art of war(and the man who practiced it!) ...which has now reached it's sad apogee with the announcement by the usurpers of our culture of this: http://www.globalresearch.ca/pentagon-creates-medal-to-honor-drone-opera... *

You are being bred and bled into a slave race...pick up your weapons and retrieve your honor now, or die on your knees as dregs of a once proud people and culture. Be a neigh-sayer to the death of the west!

*check out the face of that crypto Sabbatean in the pic and you will know the future...your khararian overlords.

Joe Liberman: Head of Homeland Security. Jewish

Diane Fienstien: Head of Senate Intelligence committee. Jewish

Daniel Benjiman: Head of Counter Terrorism. Jewish

Leon Panetta: Sec of Defense. Jewish

what's all the fuss!?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 06:23 | Link to Comment e-recep
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you still feed on what the msm cooked for you during cold war. the mess in usa was caused by ultra capitalists. profit no matter what. that's what capitalism is all about. and dont give that free market crap to me. capitalists hate free market.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 10:36 | Link to Comment s0lspot
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Yeah bro word keep mixing everything up like that you ignorant twat, EVERYBODY know that private companies doing dirty business together is socialism. Certainly not capitalism, and even less of the financial type, as EVERYBODY knows both promote exclusively "whiter than white" and "holier than thou" ethical conducts, procedures and respect between independent & unregulated market actors.

On ZH & everywhere else, choosing one's words carefully is what distinguishes a leader from a sheeple, whichever side he may be on.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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Capitalism (profit) at work.

Fixed.

Still, would rather eat certified horse/whatever meat than american frankenbeef.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:53 | Link to Comment ACP
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1%? Hell, humans have more neanderthal dna than that.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/05/100506-science-neanderth...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Human males fucked the hairy Neanderthals out of existence, which simply implies that not even French Women are safe from us...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Seems like the horses aren’t either..

http://www.komonews.com/news/archive/4158101.html

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:03 | Link to Comment Teamtc321
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Arabian Stallion? WTF. True definition of a jack hammer, un-real.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:13 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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NOFX baby. Find a pic of the back cover for a true picture of this "crisis." 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Petting_Zoo

Back cover

http://u.jimdo.com/www43/o/s0ec0c2fb450c78d9/img/ic4e7cca64bbe38ab/1327859585/std/image.jpg

 

Pretty much sums it up. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:30 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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+1 Rio you site for making squirt whiskey out my nose

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Hulk
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that gotta hurt...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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twas makers and judging by my spelling last night, the 45% was working good.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment butchee
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I was kinda wondering if any human DNA had been found in frozen patties?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:13 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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It would be a happy day if hamburger contained 1% Elite meat.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 08:13 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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He said "tainted pasta"! Boy, they use every part of the horse for their fancy recipies in Europe.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:48 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 This global thingy dingy is antiquated.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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Better to get your meat from the farmer down the road. At least you know where ol' Bossie has been.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:19 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Bossie is a hottie. You read the Australian threads News.com.au

 Are you kidding me?  http://www.news.com.au/

 I.m out of touch. I like MILFS

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:50 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Apparently, the Book of Revelations meant to say "Horsemeat of the apocalypse"

That is all for now...

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment espirit
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HeHe.  After all, this is Fight Club Bitchez.

Maybe the rich really do prefer "horse".

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment wstrub
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supply destruction........how to get inflation up!  More convenient than a war......

 

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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I wondered what happened to Secretariat.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment nmewn
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As they come out of the final turn...its Mo PokeChop on the inside, followed by SoTender, MyNeigh and Tripe...wait a minute!...here comes Alpo on the outside ridden by Francois!...he's giving her the crop now...just look at that tenderization he's doing to those haunches!

Its gonna be a photo finish!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Win, place, and show each win a Genuine Beef label. The rest are just Gaines Burgers on the hoof.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:50 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Your wife knows everything...

~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GKiRp333w

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 A smart man you are.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:15 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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It's Dog food, followed by Dog food, followed by Makes his own gravy, being trailed by CPI Switchout for chicken for old people! Adjustments bitchez!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:13 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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Secretariat, don't know. All I can say is that I wish CNBS would send Sea Biscuit to the slaughterhouse.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:54 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Well put Tyler. 

From KFC to McDonalds, who knows what in the hell everyone is eating.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment espirit
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FiFi!  Where's my FiFi?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:04 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

FiFi!  Where's my FiFi?

Have you checked AnAnonymous' wok?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:22 | Link to Comment john39
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Euthanized dogs and cats end up in pet food... The drugs make pets sick sometimes

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:18 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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A chinese chicken has 4 legs, and goes "meow."

A chinese cow has 4 legs, and goes "woof."

A chinese pig has 2 legs and goes "mom."

 

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Long Horse shit> Is camel still on the menu?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:07 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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It's all on the menu at JKC*, the popular new Chinese citizenism fastfood franchise.

 

*Just killed cat

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:16 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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"Anything with wings except an airplane, anything with legs except a table".

At the rate of current "progress" coming to a COUNTY near you any time soon . . . . . . .(along with such dishes as "genuine RATatouille", and the "new improved, Organic" version of pink slime - MRM Mouse!)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Longing for the...
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Those suppliers are nothing but a bunch of whores (or is the plural horses?)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:56 | Link to Comment FreeMktFisherMN
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inflation here at Buffalo Joe's in the People's Republic of Evanston, too. Wings tiny (suicide sauce still good) w/hardly any meat, and price for a single order has jumped a ton. And a burger and waffle fries used to be 6.25 last spring; just got that same thing, now $6.99. A quick math calculation leads to .74/6.25 = 11.84% price increase. And Buff Joe's is all about low cost fare, greasy pit type, so they are not doing this because they 'all of a sudden' wanted to increase margins. They have to due to inflation.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:52 | Link to Comment FreeMktFisherMN
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I'm told the wings used to be awesome there, and not just because of the sauce. Now they are pathetic little drummies if that.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Take school horsemeat and mix in 4 parts of pink slime to create a new government taxation revenue stream. The fears of US government being broke is quite transparent.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment Mae Kadoodie
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N e s t l e s makes the very best-horsemeat.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:02 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Not Nestlé! Neigh, neigh!

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Unprepared
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"Horse, the other red meat"

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Hulk
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"Horse, its whats for dinner. whether you know it or not"...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:37 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Time for some re-branding and the introduction of Horseburger Helper.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 22:58 | Link to Comment bugs_
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Consider the scale of this!  From Norway to the Falkland Islands the shelves are full of it.  This is not an isolated instance of a criminal trying to make a fast buck or a single criminal firm.  No my friends this is state sponsored food terrorism at a scale so large that only an economic superpower can possibly be behind it.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Damn! What if everyone gets mad horse disease ??? Can you imagine everyone running around Europe naked, and wanting to be mounted ???

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:49 | Link to Comment Manic by Proxy
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You're describing Brussels, Amsterdam and San Francisco. Also, my living room.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:14 | Link to Comment espirit
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I think I'll quit buying that "corned beef" from Argentina, and maybe Brazil.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:02 | Link to Comment RideTheWalrus
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Soylent Brown is HORSE!!

oh, it gets worse than that....

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:05 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  This is looking good. http://anheuser-busch.com/    Horse( Clyesdales) and beer .

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:07 | Link to Comment Judge Crater
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Great story with graphics by the Financial Times on the horse meat food adulteration scandal.  The big unanswered question now is has the Food and Drug Administration in the USA done any DNA testing on beef hamburger imports for horse meat DNA?  This is the same FDA that went hogwild in 2008 over OSCS contaminated heparin distributed by Baxter International while ignoring the OSCS ccontaminated blood thinner Lovenox, an injectible drug used by hundreds of thousands of patients, in and out of hospitals.  The FDA, like the SEC, is a bought off regulatory agency which only targets outsiders and nobodies unless there is a big scandal.  So don't hold your breath waiting for the FDA to test TV dinners for signs of horse meat or donkey meat DNA or to test stuff like imported meat ravioli products from Italy.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:21 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Wait till they test it for human DNA....  that's why the illegal workers at the beef plant never come home. The last tamale...................

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:04 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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<gulp> Tastes just fine to me!

Imagine that.  The meat industry in the news for bad behavior.  Haven't we seen this movie before (like for the last 100 years)?

If you believe the paper labels on the "food" you buy, I have some nice paper currency you might be interested in.

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Overfed
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The Jungle.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 01:57 | Link to Comment Curiously_Crazy
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5 years ago it was about pies (containing to much soy as a filler) 10 years ago it was about fish being incorrectly labled (cheap fish like flake sold as snapper) but for fucks sake if people are eating it and not knowing the difference who is really at fault.

I'm sick and tired of all this nannying. Anyone with any common sense could figure it out and if they don't is it really such a loss?  Does it really matter if one buys a pie and it contains soy products? does it matter to society as a whole if one buys a fish labled as snapper when it's not - hey after all they seem to be happy shoving the deep fried shit down there gobs. And yes, does it really matter if a percentage of horse is in your bloody churned up manufactured artificial buger meat? People have eaten horses for eons. It was common even in the UK during the World wars because of other meat shortages.

But I guess it keeps the sheeple distracted from things like. Oh I dunno, the economy, illegal banking practices, destruction of countries..  silly stuff like that.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:04 | Link to Comment Rusty Trombone
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Looks like the Neighs have it by a furlong............

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:05 | Link to Comment chump666
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First they watered down Heineken, next they tried to water down Makers Mark, now horse meat (Weimar style) goes global

Hyper inflation signs baby. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment fuu
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7,067,154,667 and counting.

After we eat all the horses do we start in on the wildebeasts?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Cabreado
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13. Why are governments talking about organised crime?

Is that a trick question?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:16 | Link to Comment espirit
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No, it's competition.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:07 | Link to Comment ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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The Pink Slime debacle was enough to get me to make efforts to ensure the meat I was eating was as close to the cow as I could get it.  I guess I cannot be sure unless I kill it myself, but I am through with pre-packaged meat products.

<sarcasm>I bet Nestle and the Pink Slime people will receive a punishment that will truly make them regret defrauding the masses.  You can be sure that our regulators have our backs because they know the altarnative is a libertarian society where the products we buy could contain anything</sarcasm>

 

 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:17 | Link to Comment Piranhanoia
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Why do you figure it just started?  No one gets that the mad cow deal never got solved, just covered up, and that is why so many people are going wacko.  Now eating this crap isn't voluntary with spam and other organ meats from a variety of the animal kindom.  Have a zombie?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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"Why do you figure it just started?"

 

Excellent point.  I often have to remind myself not to confuse my belief that things are getting worse with what is really just a growing understanding of things the way they probably have always been.  It's so easy to confuse the two because the former is more exciting (it feels like Im "on the case" and that I can maybe help change the outcome when in reality I'm more like a cop arriving at the scene of a murder that occured in the past).

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:08 | Link to Comment devo
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By the time Bernake is done with us we're going to be begging for horse meat.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:21 | Link to Comment SHEEPFUKKER
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And wash it down with some watered down Makers Mark. 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Makers have changed their stance but even at 42 it is higher than the likes of Templeton

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:45 | Link to Comment booboo
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google up some pictures of starving Germans hacking meat off a dead horse in the street. Past is prologue 

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment malek
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Horse ads?

Such as "Don't change horses in midstream"?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:39 | Link to Comment A Lunatic
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Anyone else seeing these banner ads for Tijuana donkey ladies...........??

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:25 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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PEOPLE KEEP CALLING MY NAME! The ladies are union, Teamster to be exact, and only take it with a sweet comp package. Package is code word for my ballls.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment digalert
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While in the free USA, if you question whether your FDA approved meat is beef or horse, you will be NDAA'd.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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I always thought it was funny that people accepted the fact that the stuff they put in those products was meat to begin with.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Hulk
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I always just assumed potted meat was Horse anyway...

(and thinking about it, potted meat prepared us all so well for pink slime)

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:11 | Link to Comment Catflappo
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Next we'll get incredible revelations such as discovering that Big Macs have shrunk again and again over the years,  packets of biscuits contain less biscuits than they used to (and they're smaller biscuits well), and that our coffee now costs the same or more but contains substandard beans.

 

All of which is fine because CPI ex-food, ex-auto, ex-fucking everything is ticking along comfortably at something point something percent.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 00:29 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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CPI Ex-horse! This is proof of how the CPI adjusts items based on price. One day horse, next day cat food. Cat food is actually eating cats for food. Ask Granny, she'll tell you about "short chicken.."

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:11 | Link to Comment Teamtc321
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"13. Why are governments talking about organised crime?

Previous convictions of dealers and traders along with intelligence suggest a link between the horse trade, meat laundering and various forms of trafficking. Lorries transporting horses have been used as cover for smuggling large quantities of cannabis between the UK and Northern Ireland and lorries transporting horsemeat to the continent are believed to be used for people smuggling on the return journey."

 

Is anyone really fucking surprised by this #13?

Let me fix that subject heading real quick below then.  

13.

Why are we just now talking about organised government crime?

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:12 | Link to Comment Atlantis Consigliore
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its called Counterfeit,  like Gold/ tungsten,  and devalued paper script;   do you know whats in your wallet,  feed bowl?

 

angry? go take a Cruise on the FED Boat.   

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment razorthin
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I think I am going to start harvesting the rabbits and woodchucks on my property.

Mon, 02/18/2013 - 23:17 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I can't stop laughing. You guys are killing me!  I need a fucking nap, and you ZHedgers are keeping me awake!

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