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Fed Buys Back 30 Year Bond Auctioned Off Last Thursday

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Earmuffs time for those people (all utterly clueless three or so of them) that the Fed does not monetize the US debt.

From last Thursday, the the US Treasury so generously issued $16 billion in 30 year bond (Cusip: QZ4)...

... to today's POMO, when the Fed so generously monetized some $39 million of the same CUSIP, after the obligatory settlementin the hands of the Primary Dealers of course.

...with about $13 billion more to of this specific CUSIP left to go. From the US Treasury:

 


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Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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We will not monetize the debt.

- Ben S. Bernanke

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Desert Rat
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yep, this is the world we live in folks! mindless, moronic, hope-n-change sheep...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Just think of what the velocity of money is going to be when it breaks loose of the closed Fed cyclotron..

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:49 | Link to Comment whotookmyalias
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Gubbmint will take care of it. They want to make (their) our lives better.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Richard Chesler
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A "thriving" middle class.

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment ACP
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Vince Vaughn to Bernanke: "Oh, I'm the asshole??"

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment Popo
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Ben Bernanke, guilty of crimes against the State and the American People.   This is as clear as day.   What exactly is the penalty for robbing every man, woman and child in the nation?   

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Actually, Bernanke to the citizenry: "Earmuffs."

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 16:57 | Link to Comment Swarmee
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According to the fines and sentences handed down to LIBOR manipulators that would be exactly.... Zero. Zero penalties.

According to the Bernanke stating blank-face under oath that he would not monetize the debt, then doing exactly that less than a year later? Zero penalties.

Despite this affecting every citizen at some level just watch, no one person would be allowed standing to initiate a suit of any sort. And since ZH has shown much of the current flow goes direct to EU banks? Any suit with merit will eventually be quashed for "national security" reasons if not long before it even reaches that level of scrutiny.

Me, cynical? Nah, realist. :-(

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Desert Rat
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at the time the Dolla Menu becomes the Fiddy Dolla Menu

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment fuu
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And you will still be eating pink horse slime.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment youngman
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You will want to be able to afford pink horse slime.....

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Ben can solve that in 15 minutes. I heard him say it. He wouldn't lie

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Gordon_Gekko
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Its about goddamn time the nature did its survival of the fittest thing.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 15:22 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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wow, it's been a while

Ps: you were right

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Do any of you clueless motherfuckers who constantly claim that the Democratic AND Republican Parties aren't an illusion of choice, when in reality, they're BOTH owned by the exact same entities to do the exact SAME large-scale things, care to defend your position with anything more than talking point tripe?

I'll wait with bated breath to see Bernanke & the elders at the Fed asked a single question about this by any "Republican."

Gay marriage, bitches! Oh noes!  Republicans generally oppose it and Democrats generally support it. It'll be the death of the nation! (and other carefully selected, yet generally meaningless, social wedge issues).

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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hey TIS, maybe your kenyan daddy Obama will "hope and change" your liberullz diaper for you cuz you didn't build that!-typical ZH Foxtard

(sorry, couldn't resist)

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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@ TruthInSunshine, Spot on.  May I add the following:

They want our guns because they know the game is about up. The music is about to stop and the dollar is going to be worthless. When the dollar’s true value is realized everybody who had most of their wealth in paper assets are going to be pretty pissed off to say the least and looking for blood and vengeance to say the most.
 
Thats why our government agencies are stocking up on ammo and want to get all the guns and ammo they can out of our hands. When the system falls apart and the stores are bare because the transportation of goods has collapsed everybody will know without a doubt why they were trying to shut down the second ammendment.
 
They don’t care about our lives. They just want to protect their own lives since they know they are the criminals that got us into this situation with their bankster overlords.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Yes and they are getting frantic about it.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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You might check immigration policy.  The War on White People is not being conducted by Republicans.

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment GlobalCtzn
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Yeah right, Bush and the GOP did a lot to stem that tide...............

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Yeah, whatever "war on white people" you see is no doubt related to issues over immigration and such, with Republican-favored H1B visas, an aggressive Republican program to expand their share of the hispanic voting base (code word for cave to whatever is "wanted" to secure the votes), etc., JUST like the Democrat fucktards.

Republifucks and Demofucks, indistinguishable in 99.5% of what they DO, and MAYBE 35% of what they SAY.

 

(This is not a commentary on the merit of gearing political issues to the concerns of American CITIZENS of hispanic ancestry whatsoever, but to demonstrate the larger point that both parties are comprised of knob gobbling whores of the exact same variety, working for the exact same "owners")

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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It will all come to an end soon enough. Myself i use each day we are still above water to hone my system that will hopefully pull me & mine through the coming shitstorm. As me & my wife were discussing this weekend , nothing is certin anymore. Hopefully someday the globalist bankster scum get what they have coming.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Chupacabra-322
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These Criminal Banksters own the “government”. The “government” does not tell them what to do, they tell the “government” what to do. They are the reason there is war everywhere, why the “government” ruling over us attacks nations all over the planet committing murder and terrorism against them and treason against us every day. I can’t imagine what sort of force will have to come to the fore to stop these Criminals, but they must be stopped.
 
The “government” is a criminal organization. They rule with fire power. They are a gang that numbers in many thousands. Their goons are everywhere. America in under an occupation of criminals and will continue to be until they are at last forcibly removed from our land. Their economic Ponzi scheme is about to collapse and the main mechanism of their control will be gone. Their central bank, the Fed Reserve, (see fifth Plank Communist Manifesto) has run its course. A 100 year conspiracy is coming to fruition and the deed is done. Just one big problem for them, 200,000,000 guns in the hands of free Americans who hate their guts, and are hell bent of restoring this Republic to Constitutional legitimacy. Whatever cruelty, whatever ruthlessness the criminal “government” uses we must exercise even more so. Don’t forget, they want us dead. No quarter for traitors! No quarter for the enemy!
Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Oh contraire...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment woolly mammoth
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Another wedge issue. The Republican war against Ron Paul was a war against Liberty.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:30 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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When things get serious, you have to lie.

Some European asshole. Fuck you Junker.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:12 | Link to Comment God Bless The V...
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Put that scumbag Bernanke in jail for perjury with that even bigger scumbag Corzine!

Then demand to have the U.S.D.A. DEFUNDED for indoctrination!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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fuck you bernanke you lying shill

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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"Na na na na na na na I can't hear you." Okay Mr Bernanke you can take your hands off your ears now.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Banking is an art.

- Ben S. Bernanke

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:40 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Banking is an art of fraud

-The Truth

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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 abstract, impressionist, finger painting or playdough?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:26 | Link to Comment odatruf
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So a trillion dollar coin minted by the Treasury was an absurdity, but if we do it in $85 billion dollars intervals and through the Fed, then it's "getting to work".  Yeah, I see it now.

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:29 | Link to Comment Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Gold is not money.

- Ben S. Bernanke

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:32 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Doing the opposite never looked so good.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:44 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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he sure is obsessed with something "irrelevant"

that's the thing about these high level asswipes. If they had to duke it out in the real criminal world, where real things matter, they'd be dead in a week.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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if you vote and are registered D or R, and are fed (cough cough) up then get off your fat ass and change your voter registration to a third party or indie..if enough voters do this it will send a message..but then no stay on your fat asses and post your drivel.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:26 | Link to Comment LasVegasDave
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this is a riskless transaction for the primary dealers so why isnt there public outcry about ripping off the taxpayers?

Never mind, Ill just answer my own question:  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Super Broccoli
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who do they buy this crap from ? Soros ?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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The relevant thing is that they are co-signing the taxpayers' names to it.

[Edit: they are signing the taxpayers' great-great-grandchildren's names to it]

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Raymond Reason
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What about the debt ceiling?  So these 30 yr bonds are to replace bonds that came to maturity??

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:26 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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75% of the 30-Yr February issuance?  Looks like desperation to keep the long-end of the yield curve down...

(what's to become of the "housing recovery" when mortgage rates go up 75 bps in the next few months...?)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:43 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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I've been all over central Florida checking out property for the last two weeks.

Billboards on both coasts advertise 2.99% commercial loans or home equity loans.

Idiots on steroids.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment HomeBrewPrepper
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I just refied to a 15 yr 2.75%

It's almost like free money with real inflation being well above said 2.75%

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 19:06 | Link to Comment Dan Conway
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I just refied for 30 years.  I plan on paying back my mortgage with obama/benron bucks.  The present value of those last 15 years will be the equivalent of a Kalikfornian teachers pension - worthless!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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Who says the auto makers can be the only one to channel stuff?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Inthemix96
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This is turning sureal.

How much more of this blatant bullshit can this lot pull off before it comes crashing down?

I am almost lost for words??

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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The sad thing is I can see this lasting for years. Just enjoy today, keep stacking, and accept what is most likely going to happen.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Melson Nandela
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Basil Fawlty: "I could have this conversation for the rest of my life"

Manuel ;"Eventually, at the end..."

There´s your answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6EaoPMANQM

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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At the risk of being called a broken record.......we ain't seen nuttin' yet. Desperate men will resort to desperate measures, making the last few years look tame by comparison.

The key is to manipulate you and I into begging for exactly what they want to do in the first place.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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my daughter hasa been begging for a pony.  I find it hard to believe the Fed wants to give us a pony. 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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The Fed wants to give you the back end product of the pony they will keep (and eventually slaughter).

Would you like one scoop or two? Better yet take three. The pony runnith over.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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as in a little pony meat in your burger?

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 04:49 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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Pooh!  They make dangerous food!

Horse meat is more dangerous than one thinks.

Consider the supply chain. In 2011, almost 140,000 horses from the United States were sent to slaughterhouses in Canada and Mexico. (The last American horse slaughterhouse closed in 2007.) Many of the horses that landed in these across-the-border abattoirs were thoroughbreds from the U.S. horse racing industry. Others came from prolific quarter horse breeders, who send horses into racing, ranching, and rodeos. Racing in particular is a controversial business marked by overbreeding, early racehorse retirement, and EXTENSIVE DRUG USE. (The New York Times has laid bare the harrowing evidence this year in an excellent series called “Breakdown: Death and Disarray at America’s Racetracks.”) Indeed, many racehorses essentially become PHARMACEUTICAL DUMPING GROUNDS throughout their artificially stimulated, sedated, and numbed lives. The CHEMICALS that course through the blood and lodge in the flesh of many thoroughbreds and quarter horses might ease their pain and treat their diseases, but they also make these animals distinctly UNFIT for a GoogaMooga sandwich.

Watch out the performance-enhancing drugs such as Phenylbutazone, known as PBZ or simply 'bute'... they are toxic for humans.

 

U.K. 'Horseburger' Scandal: Did the Meat Originate in the U.S.? | Maryn McKenna

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/01/horse-meat-scandal/

 

Food Trade Too Complex to Track Food Safety | Maryn McKenna

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/06/food-trade-complex/

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment john39
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a world (fiat) currency... firmly in the claws of the banker scum.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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you said a mouthful. Ironic since it starves so many

Do you ever wonder CD, how in the hell...

It's just the tools and the scale isn't it? Mankind has never changed. And never will.

Doesn't this mean at one point, it breaks

God knows if the scale of destruction is record breaking

so too will be the reaction

Gee, I feel better

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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Nominally they can maintain it with two outcomes; A completely Fkd economy and a gold moonshot.  They can rig their paper vs other paper all day, but have no control over the physical reality  It is like playing farmville all day harvesting imaginary food, but never stocking your fridge and dying of starvation.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Confundido
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Not so fast Quinvarius...not so fast...They do not control the physical (i.e. the monetary base of the currency called gold), but they do control its credit multiplier (the leverage on the monetary base). And this control seems to be unchallenged....

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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You won't die of starvation if you fill your stomach with your own shit and repeat when hungry.  - Ben Bernanke

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:30 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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What's a few billion digits amongst friends? The only thing that matters is that brutal sequester is prevented from happening......brutal.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Brutal, yeah.

Draconian even.

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Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:32 | Link to Comment fuu
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POMO, it's like an EBT card for banksters.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Fredo Corleone
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+1

Simple, yet accurate metaphor.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment No Euros please...
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Don't know about EBT but they certainly seem to have plenty of Get Out of Jail Free cards. Guess Obummer is the Joker?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:47 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Huge sign on a convenience store:

EBT

  NOW -  EBT

Even with minimal English, the shit comes out the same.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Threeggg
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Did someone mention EBT ?

Here is the EBT anthem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLTTX35LNJo

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment NoWayJose
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It takes a lot of these transactions to hand out enough money in order to temporarily keep gold from rising.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment PaperBear
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30 year vs 3 working days - madness.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment SmoothCoolSmoke
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Let's see....

ZH:  Cars - bad!  Housing  - bad!  Freight - bad!  Fed - bad!

Yet.....  SP +8

Sorry, ZH is looking more and more like the crazy guy on the street corner proclaiming "The end is near!"

Again, sorry.... but that's how it looks.

 

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment nope-1004
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Proof that the Fed is controlling the market.  Thanks for confirming.

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment bnbdnb
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Penis still works in fat chicks too.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Maybe, maybe not.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Yep, close your eyes and play make-believe. You have to do the same thing to think "all is well" and "things are getting better" and "the market isn't being manipulated."

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment mayhem_korner
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Hopium zealots are in a constant euphoric lather because the equity markets are approaching new highs.  As was pointed out last week, when the Dow was last this high in October 2007, the price of gold was around $700.  Here's a deeper-dive tale of the "recovery" tape:

Silver: Oct. 2007=$13, Today=$30

Gold:  Oct 2007=$760, Today=$1,620 (or whatever they hammer it to...)

Reported Unemployment:  Oct 2007=4.7%, Today=7.9%

Case-Shiller Home Index: Oct 2007=190.9, Today=144.9

New Home Sales:  2007=774K, 2012=367K

Housing Units Built:  2007=1,500K, 2012=651K

Fed Reserve Balance Sheet: Oct 2007=$873B, Today=$3.11T

Food Stamp Recipients: Dec 2007=28.7M, Today=48.2M

Federal Spending, Annual Rate:  2007=$2.7T, Today=$3.6T

Fed Tax Revenues, Annual:  2007=$2.5T, Today=$2.4T

Retail Gasoline Price:  2007=$2.84/gal, 2012=$3.68/gal

Money Supply:  Oct 2007=$851.6B, Today=$2,760.7B

Personal Bankruptcies: 2007=801K (75% up from 2006), 2012=1,245K

Foreclosures: 2007=405k (40% up from 2006), 2012=742K

 

Don't be fooled by the 'recovery' meme, and be cautious about entering the pre-slaughter sheep pen that is the equity markets.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Alpha Monkey
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I'm stealing this to show others.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Jayda1850
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Lets see...

CNBC and MSM in 2007. housing-good, stocks-good, freight-good, fed-good.

How did that work out cocksucker?

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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What are you paying for gas now? Is it in the neighborhood of the prices in mid-2008 (when oil was about $25 higher)?  How's your grocery bill lately?  Noticed any change in prices and/or package sizes?  Been to a restaurant lately?  How are the prices compared to last year (or even 6 months ago)?  Yes, of course, everything's fine - S&P's up 8 points, sound the all clear.  And luckily for us, food and energy aren't part of the CPI, otherwise we might be experiencing some inflation.

 

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment kralizec
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There you go again itemizing all the destruction surrounding you!

+1 is all I can give ya.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Agent P
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You know what will fix this?  Increasing the minimum wage to $9/hr.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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"Judge not the appearance, judge righteous judgement".

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment fuu
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Your faux concern is touching, here's your earmuffs.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Vooter
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"Yet.....  SP +8"

Really? Says who?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Must...   keep... the... ten... year... yeild... at... or... below... 2.0%...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:40 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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The Fed keeps pushing the yield down like a tightly coiled spring.  It will be quite interesting to watch it release.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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remember those old garage springs...on the two car 400 pound wood doors?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:39 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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Well, he is not REALLY monetizing the debt, because he will eventually sell them back and destroy the money previously created. Right Ben?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Right?  Exactly so.  Right after Hell freezes over.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Going Loco
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"Well, he is not REALLY monetizing the debt, because he will eventually sell them back and destroy the money previously created. Right Ben?"

But what happens if nobody wants to buy? 

What happens if it really is nobody, as in N.O.B.O.D.Y. wants to buy? At any price?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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History has draped that play. The final act makes Lady MacBeth smile 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:43 | Link to Comment hooligan2009
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so what has been the cumulative profit transferred from the government to the banks/primary dealers since the inception of QE? 

is it 1.7 trillion times 18 years duration times 2 basis points, so c. $6 billion?

nice money if you can get it, given it's a guaranteed profit with no risk

i could use 1% of that.$60 million ..or even not being greedy and all..0.1% of that or $6 million..or 0.01% for $600,000

how much have fat banksters bonuses been in the treasury dealing rooms of JPM GS MS DB and HSBC in the last five years? 

let guess..around $6 billion amonst what...30 dealers? so twenty million a piece.

sounds about right..

fuck you US government, in all its guises

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:42 | Link to Comment morning_glory
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I have had enough of the propaganda on this site.

I am going to Bloomberg to find the truth!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:44 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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This system they cooked up where 'the market has to vet the prices' - eg the PDs have to buy the debt instead of the Fed just buying it straight from Treasury is sure working out great as a safety valve to prevent debt monetization and enforce market discipline on the govt.  Man, those Fed founders really thought of EVERYTHING!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Sutton
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He's caught in his own web.

And our society, and us all, will die agonizing deaths, because of him.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment whoknoz
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as they say.."looking at all the horse shit, there must be a pony in there somewhere..."

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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I'd never heard that one, but I'll definitely remember it for the future.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Tsar Pointless
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Gotta hand it to those jerks.

They really know how to form a circle.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Grinder74
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Wait:  circle...jerks...what are you trying to say?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment THX 1178
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Gotta give it to those fucks... they really know how to cluster together.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment optimator
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And one of these days they'll all be clustered together at El Al Airline boarding line, with their one way tickets in hand.  Binny will be first in line with a toupee and cleanly shaven. 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Freewheelin Franklin
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With all of the currency crises this country has seen, you think we might have learned something by now.

 

I hear people say, "we need to take the money out of politics". Actually, no. We need to take the politics out of money.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment A82EBA
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its like by the time we're old enough to understand whats going on we're outnumbered by those who dont get it

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Grinder74
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Small Business: This is illegal!! SEC gonna rape you like it did us!

Government: Nah, nothing going on here.

Sovereign individual: What was Obama's golf score this weekend?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment philosophers bone
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Sorry if there is an obvious answer to these questions, but:

1.  Do we know what the Fed is actually issuing when it buys these bonds?  Do we know that it's Federal Reserve Notes (ie. U.S. dollars) or could it be something else (ie. a subordinated promissory note or low level equity in the Fed which will never be repaid) so that the currency supply is not actually increasing?  Obviously the taxpayer would be seriously fucked over in that scenario.

2.  Do we know if as a condition of the Fed purchases whether there is a collateral agreement whereby the Fed has the right to "put" the bond back and, if so, at what price? 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment Catullus
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It's straight up Open Market Operation. They take the bonds, pay in newly printed cash, end of story.

There's no swap, no repo, no PIK, no equity. Straight up cash.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Wheeee!... more joobux... I'm going to have to get me one of those confetti cannons...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment hooligan2009
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but they do run a massive repo and reverse repo market for this skilled in rehypothecated tr-partite repo stuff.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Catullus
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Their FX Swap activity is rather interesting too

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment Phoenix_Rising
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The last vestige of a desperate nation....

 

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 This shit is beyond comical. I can see it already. "Dominos Pizza" is spinning platinum coins in the middle of the night, so they can get the Obama>care writeoff!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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In other news gold down again. :boomers laugh at stackers:

 

...time to put more PMs on the CC. lulz lulz lulz

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 I'm buying the dip buzz. Stacking some more xag this week. Also adding to my cable positions. The 10 handle move is in, and the currency wars are heating up!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment fuu
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I am not sure you should stack XML Accessibility Guidelines.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Threeggg
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Wait for the price to come to you. Whats the hurry ?

Next Tuesday the 26th is options expiry on the Comex.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 12:59 | Link to Comment monopoly
monopoly's picture

All correct guys, but so far no one seems to care. Sad but true.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment yogibear
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A Greece in the making.

More printing, Food Stamps,  Free cell phones and bailouts.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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Please end that farce, FED should just become a primary dealer.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment MFLTucson
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Good job 100% track record of deception!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment q99x2
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What state should secessionists move to: Texas, New Hampshire? Got to get rid of the FED somehow.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 15:21 | Link to Comment HeatMiser
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Not NH Massholes own nh its just a matter of time before NH changes its name to taxachusetts.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 15:31 | Link to Comment JohnGaltsChild
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Not to worry. The central gamblers have everything under control.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 16:05 | Link to Comment helping_friendl...
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The US should default on the debt, including the FRBNY, remove the gold from the FRBNY vault and put it in Fort Knox. 

Back the US Treasury note with silver at 10:1 leverage. Sell as much gold as necessary to purchase enough silver to make currency stable. 

Fuck the Jew bankers on Wall Street. Remove Manhatten from the Union and make them support their own infrastructure.

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