Just Say NO: Seattle Residents Kill the City’s Drone Program

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Via Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The anti-surveillance state movement is gaining traction and following Charlottesville, Virginia becoming the first city to pass anti-drone legislation, the engaged citizenry of Seattle have now succeeded in killing their city’s own drone program earlier this month.  On the state level, while legislation has been introduced in several places, it appears Florida is closest to enacting domestic surveillance drone regulations into law.  The title of the bill is the “Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act.”  From Forbes:

After a Public Safety, Civil Rights and Technology Committee hearing in Seattle (held the night of Feb 7), where residents raised concern over the Seattle Police Departments attempt to use surveillance drones, the program was successfully killed.


In a written response, Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn wrote: “Today I spoke with Seattle Police Chief John Diaz and we agreed that it was time to end the unmanned aerial vehicle program so that SPD can focus its resources on public safety and the community building work that is the department’s priority. The vehicles will be returned to the vendor.”


On the legislative side of things, multiple states are already moving to enact laws to strongly regulate the use of surveillance drones.  According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Maine has a bill introduced to regulate drones, as do Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Texas. In Virginia a hearing has already been held on a bill, while Montana has three bills, and hearings have already been held there as well.


Of all states, however, Florida is the closest to enacting domestic surveillance drone regulations into law.


The Florida bill was introduced by state Senator Joe Negron—a very powerful Republican who chairs the budget committee. The actual title of the bill is the “Freedom from Unwarranted Surveillance Act,” and according to the ACLU it has strong bipartisan support, along with support from public defenders, the Florida Sheriff’s Association, and Florida Police Chiefs.

While these guys will try to get away with anything they think they can, this demonstrates that when the citizenry is involved and active we can control our own destiny.  Great job Seattle!

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Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:51 | 3258086 CaptainObvious
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They don't give a shit about federal laws, why bother with local ones?

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 00:20 | 3258465 Gold Dog
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When drones are outlawed only oulaws will have drones.

Speaking of drones, has anyone listened to the Krugman jackass lately?



PS- Kangaroo, wherefore art thou?

 (This sale cannot last too much longer!)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:43 | 3258070 MrTouchdown
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I'm sure they'll use the "common welfare" clause. They use it for everything else.


Starting to look a lot like State vs. Federal, though, isn't it?

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 00:24 | 3258473 Gold Dog
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I don't understand?! Why are the peeps in Colorado let off the hook?


Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:06 | 3257963 Mr. Lucky
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When the only tool you have is a drone everyone looks like a target.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:06 | 3257965 Yen Cross
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 Best news of the day! Starbucks being droned, got the lefties excited!

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 03:55 | 3258679 StychoKiller
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Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:07 | 3257970 Apathetic or Wh...
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Bone the drone!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:07 | 3257972 john39
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good step... but no one is safe until the feds/military ground the drones, both domestically and abroad (except in lawful declared wars-ie, non-banker wars)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:09 | 3257978 a growing concern
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I'm in favor of wars on bankers.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:52 | 3258092 CaptainObvious
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Only if we use drones, though.  A drone strike maximizes the whole collateral damage thing, and bankers need lots of collateral damage.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 23:51 | 3258422 Go Tribe
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No one's safe until they eliminate terrestrial robots as well. Either mano a mano or no war.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:10 | 3257981 nmewn
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So, as a Florida resident, I guess this means I don't get to try out my new AA battery?

Anyone in the NE want it?...its still in the crate ;-)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:21 | 3258014 booboo
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nmewn, you in old real Florida, (north of Gainesville) NewYorkarica (South of Gainesville to Poincianna) Crackerville South of Cow town to Okeechobee) or Cuba?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:49 | 3258083 nmewn
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Well, I was born in St.Pete., lived north of Jax across Trout River behind the railroad tracks on the incoming flight path of old Jax airport, lived in Haileah which was cool as a kid, then back to the Burg where I attended the same High School as MsC and was a beach bum______in time, now I'm in real Fla and lovin it...close to my roots in south Ga.

Takes a long time for neighbors to get to know you and trust you here...and for new neighbors, the same. We leave each other alone unless the need arises, hurricanes, tornadoes, broke tractor/vehicle, a crackhead moves in, you know, standard stuff ;-)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:00 | 3258110 booboo
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nice, spent a good bit of time hunting those parts, Monticello, north of I-10. Pretty good turkey hunting ground.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:17 | 3258169 nmewn
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Good turkey hunting from Marion county on up through Jefferson.

Here's something good that just came on the market you might be interested in...they had a booth set up in Tennessee last weekend. Seen one today, pretty cool no matter the terrain, slope, no slope, pivots 180 degrees...


Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:28 | 3258206 espirit
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Good down here also, in the Osceola swamps north of Kenansville.  Had 9 birds take flight from my little green patch Monday morning.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:38 | 3258232 nmewn
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Damn, we all crackas round here...lol.

Keep the back door open, we may have to go "liberate" Cuba at some point ;-)

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 23:16 | 3258336 espirit
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you betcha.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 23:48 | 3258414 booboo
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hunted 10 mile, lots of birds, Mormons are proud of their land.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:14 | 3257992 booboo
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If Obama had a drone it would look like him and he would call it Super Fly

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:14 | 3257995 toys for tits
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I saw the president droning on this morning. Is that what we're talking about?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:16 | 3257997 Lmo Mutton
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Drones are computers.  People laws do not apply to computers.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:17 | 3257998 Smegley Wanxalot
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No worries.  POSident Dinglebarry Oblowhard will show you state and city peons who's boss in his kingdom.  Now fuck you and take a missle up your ass, you Starbucks guzzling beanheaded serf-boy.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:17 | 3258001 QQQBall
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Look for a false flag in PNW... "Preventable, if only we had drones at our disposal"

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:20 | 3258011 Hulk
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You can do the same thing with a Barrett and have a lot of fun at the same time !!!

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:20 | 3258012 djsmps
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By golly, I'm sure this will end that pesky drone problem.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:21 | 3258015 disabledvet
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just as long as they don't shoot down little Bill's "spy cam on the bikini clad girls next door" it's all good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XN2789QQvXE&ytsession=6OUvCBSrnCyMXyM-RBk...

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:27 | 3258200 OldPhart
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Really?!  Drones?

Law Enforcement needs to think outside of the box, like these people.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:22 | 3258018 cherry picker
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Geeez, I just bought stock in a drone manufacturer.  These cities and states are going to kill my business.  I must be on somebody's hit list/  :)

Thank God states and cities are upholding the Constitution wheras the White House could give a rat's ass.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:54 | 3258095 CaptainObvious
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Sorry, Benny can't print rat's asses, or the White House would be glad to give those.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:55 | 3258096 NoWayJose
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Drone makers will need to apply for Obama green grants. Swap out the cameras and missiles for air pollution sensors and global warming thermometers.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:16 | 3258165 CaptainObvious
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You forgot the carbon sensors, dude.  How is Al Gore gonna get his fair share of the carbon tax if the drones aren't measuring carbon levels?  Al needs a new pair of free-range leather shoes with organic cotton liners, you know.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 22:22 | 3258186 cherry picker
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Good point, but aren't drones using an unnecessary amount of fuel creating polution considering they are not transporting life forms.  They should be abolished under the EPA.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:23 | 3258019 alien-IQ
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I'm looking forward to the day that some bright enterprising 15 year old figures out how to hack police drones and we see them start falling out of the sky like pigeon shit.

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 00:05 | 3258403 Reptil
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That will be used as reason to authorise the use of autonomous artificial intelligence as controller over drones, since these do not rely on hackable control signals. There was a robot developed that would patrol and engage enemies, and would switch to an autonomous program if the signal is disconnected. So what happens when a drone is disconnected?

Using autonomous units, is a further development in controlling a large body of persons or everthing inside a large space, by very few people, or by something that's not a person.

Apart from this initiative to curb invasive technology, and the use of it, why is there not even a discussion about autonomous units? Or about artificial intelligence?

Seems important to me.

Wed, 02/20/2013 - 01:15 | 3258546 Freddie
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F SkyNet! .

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:28 | 3258030 ShakaZulu
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As Bill Gates looks out his 50 gabillion dollar home drone free picture window thinking, "There's more than one way to skin a cat."

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:30 | 3258034 Bunga Bunga
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Will the federal drones respect the city law and turn just around at the city's border?

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:52 | 3258091 NoWayJose
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Not a chance. Homeland security drones will be able to go anywhere anytime to protect us from something or other. All this did was kill the city program.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:31 | 3258036 whoopsing
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I wonder what the scrap value for a drone is


Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:46 | 3258078 IridiumRebel
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Ask the Iranians.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:32 | 3258044 q99x2
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And, with each action like this millions wake up.

Very good news.

Tue, 02/19/2013 - 21:39 | 3258058 Decolat
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Someone get a RC hoverdrone with a camera, a sign that says 'trust us it's for your own safety', and peek through windows of people who support this horseshit.


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