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FoxConn Freezes Hiring On iPhone Production Slowdown
First it was Walmart letting the truth finally slip last Friday when a leaked memo showed recent sales are a "total disaster." Today, as anyone who has looked at AAPL premarket quotes will surmise, it's Apple's turn, following a report in the FT that FoxConn, the world's largest contract electronics manufacturer, "has imposed a recruitment freeze across almost all of its factories in China 5th as it slows production of Apple's iPhone." It is not an internal memo, but in this particular case actions speak even louder than leaked words: 'The suspension in hiring by China's largest private sector employer, and the biggest assembler of Apple products, is the first search countrywide move since the 2009 downturn, prompted by the financial crisis. It underscores the weakening demand for some Apple products, Which has put pressure on the American company's battered share price. "Currently, none of the plants in mainland China have hiring plans," said Liu Kun, a company spokesman at Foxconn's largest manufacturing facility in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen."
So first Walmart, the world's largest private sector employer with over 2 million workers, and now FoxConn, the world's largest tech-focused employer with 1.2 million workers, is also realizing what a cashless, consumerless "recovery" means, regardless whether it is due to Apple or not. And the markets still continues to wave it off as one off events.
Human resources officials at Foxconn's largest factories, local government officials and external recruiters working with the company said there had been internal notices on Tuesday and Wednesday to stop hiring until at least the end of March, 5th in response to reduced orders for the iPhone
Apple did not respond immediately to a request for comment, but Tim Cook, chief executive, told a conference last week that he did not think demand for iPhones was peaking. "We do not have the word 'limit' in the Apple vocabulary. . . I see a [smartphone] market that's incredible to be in. Maybe one of the best markets of all time, "he said.
However, at external recruiter in the northern province of Shandong, who identified himself only as Mr. Zhang, said Foxconn's demand for workers this year was as low as that in 2009.
The company's work force in China was estimated at about 800,000 during the 2009 crisis, but rose to 1.2m last year ahead of the launch of the iPhone 5 Workers' tenure at the company is less than 13 months on average, according to a person close to the company. This suggests that head count at Foxconn could fall by least of thousands if it stopped hiring for a month and its turnover of workers Remained as high as last year
Recruiters said hiring has stopped for the iPhone and iPad production lines in Shenzhen, the company's largest plant with more than 200,000 workers, as well as at Zhengzhou, the second-largest with about 200,000 workers, Which therefore makes iPhones. Taiyuan, Which had 79.000 workers as of September and makes iPhone parts, and Chengdu, Which makes the iPad were, thus putting a freeze on hiring.
As for Apple's demand-driven issues, those are very well known:
The move follows a recent decline in sales at Apple suppliers . "In January, Apple's supply chain-related gene names rally delivered a slowing sales momentum due to the sluggish shipments of MacBook, iPhone 5 and iPad during the holiday season," Nomura said in a research note this week.
Hon Hai, the Taiwan-listed flagship of the group Which uses the trade name Foxconn reported, at 8 per cent sales decline last month, and Quanta Computer , the world's largest notebook contract manufacturer and therefore at Apple supplier, saw sales drop 16 per cent .
Fear not: all shall promptly be well once FoxConn clarifies it wasn't really Apple's fault and the end-demand collapse was all due to Sandy, snow, meteors, the sequester and Bush. All in that order.
And now, back to your algorithmic, Fed-ordained stock "market" ramp, where news of global recession should be enough to lift the S&P by at least 10 points.
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A hiring freeze at a factory in CHINA? That IS significant! No one thought CHINA could EVER slow down.
The ghost cities have been frozen in time as well.....not sure what it means.
http://www.wnd.com/2011/02/260645/
Does this mean less suicide nets -- or more?
just remove the nets
problem solved
Could always just install them at the southern border.
It could possibly pull McCain's pregressive ass out of the fire. Looks like the citizens of Arizona have finally figured out that he was never a conservative.....and he might have lied about being a Republican too,
http://news.yahoo.com/mccain-defends-immigration-plan-angry-residents-004915369.html
McCain is a lying POS. The residents should file a recall on him now.
Foxconn should go into the ammo business along with Apple. No one wants that iPhone shit anymore. People want i.223 and i9mm and even i.22LR.
Just think, if it's getting to this point as of now, what will happen when Foxconn replaces 1/2 of all workers with robots (aka "automatization"), as is its executive 3 year plan?
Yeah, but they need to make brass cased ammo instead of that usual steel cased commie shit... Not worried about it running through an AK (hell, the damn thing is lubricated by dirt), but for some other firearms, I'd much rather run only brass through them...
Re:
« Does this mean less suicide nets -- or more? »
One thing that will now definitely be 'more',
Is more articles from Reggie Middleton about how he was 'right' about Apple
I think Reggie is going to show some restraint and humility and let others sing his praises.
/S
"We do not have the word 'limit' in the Apple vocabulary. . ."
A CEO full of mottos and wisdom? Fucktard CEO making big bucks for what?
That's it! They're not hiring because they fixed employee suicide - should start licensing employees, now!
I believe that it is now illegal to use the words "China" and "slow" in the same sentence. DHS will be with you shortly...
Hey Zero
I didnt think it would so much slow down as fall apart. It was made in China after all.
I remember when some Americans boycotted goods made in sweatshops. Now they camp out to buy the next iteration of ishit.
Consumers' choices have alot to do about that.
Want to buy textiles at a small biz? You'll probably have a better time finding a needle in a haystack (Made in China and sold at a Costco or Wal-Mart).
Do you buy Samsung/HTC product over Apple because of its use of FoxConn slave labor? Those companies employ workers at almost as bad of a wage in the Korean DMZ.
There's even legislation that prevents those in grocery stores to separate which food is GMO and which isn't. Now listen, you can sell me the GMO food - just let me have the visibility of knowing which is the mutant food and which isn't (so I know which one NOT to buy - I'll pay more, I don't care).
The thing is: we have Americans all the time, especially those on the right, say we are "decending into Communism". Yet we buy products that prop up....a Communist country. We have trade policies that make their economy "stronger" (sic).
Yet the American consumer continues the charade of hypocrisy at the cashier counter. Neofeudal serfdom will NOT stop until we stop pulling out the wallets for this crap.
But, but, what about all the "growth"?
It was in your pants
Partee's over?
BEIJING - China's cabinet on Wednesday restated its intention to extend a pilot property tax program to more cities and urged local authorities again to put price control targets on new homes, in the latest effort to calm frothy real estate markets.
http://www.reuters.com/places/china
They will buy more gold and silver then....real estate is a savings vehicle for them....
Maybe that's why the U.S. UE rate is "7.9%" - layoffs are being exported. /s
What is sarcasm to you is bona fide methodology to others. Decent people recognize dark humor, the sociopathic see means to insane ends. +1 because it is true, that is very likely in their calcuation.
The best comedy is always rooted in truth. And usually DARK truth:
"Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you walk into an open sewer and die."
- Mel Brooks
June of 1999, I worked for a ciruit board manufacturing company.. we had about 1/4 of the order of Intels CPU product.. and just like that, they cancelled it on us. That product made up like 20% of our revenue. The insane overtime we were working got hit .. soon after that, layoffs, pay cuts, more layoffs.. then bust.
You and I must have been in the PCB industry at the same time. Ouch!
Exact same thing has been happening with Plexus (PLXS) for the last 6 months. Big trouble.
Most EMS rely on just a handful of customers for 80% of their business. Scary model.
The new economy hurtles downhill on the edge side of a serrated blade.
When the foxconn guards the iHen, your golden goose is cooked, if you'll forgive the hashed brown metaphor.
ori
Foxconn says recruitment freeze not related to Apple (AAPL) Iphone 5 slowdown
Uh-huh.
Like they're saying the amount of widgets they sell has no influence on the amount of people they hire. I suppose all the Dell sales are making up for the lack of Apple sales?
According to SA this was planned and previously anounced
and related to some planning constraints. Time will tell.
Interesting hypothetically how an error in reporting may flushout
the amatuers and half-wits and misfits. Better to remain silent...
I guess they will just let employee suicide provide adequate rate of RIF?
Those nets ain't there to celebrate the career of Yao Ming......
Right, they will remove the nets for 10 days and let nature take its course.
I think they call that "attrition" in the HR parlance.
"Let My People Go"
Moses
Moses was the messenger of those words, not the author. (Exodus 9)
If "He" created the earth... then wouldn't the Egyptians also be "His" people...?
"There's an invisible man... and he lives in the sky..."
All people are God's people, yes. Some reject the gift, others humbly receive it. But the Hebrews were the "chosen" people because Christ came through their lineage. The historical books of the OT are, in part, about God's preservation of the line that yielded Jesus. That is what was going on in the Exodus - the chosen people were in bondage and God delivered them. The Hebrews were no more upstanding than others of their day, as evidenced over and over and over in the OT. Their conduct is not what made them the "chosen" people.
Interesting that Egypt - the most powerful nation on the planet in 1900 B.C., has been reduced to at best a second-rate nation ever since the Exodus.
How long before Chairsatan dispatches Kevin Henry to start placing orders for iPhones? Got to keep the mirage going...
iFUBAR.
Or just have iPhones installed into Government Motors cars - then they can boost "sales" by iStuffing the iChannels?
I am picturing a WB7 rendition of Kevin (or even the Bernanke, maybe both) running out of the NYC Apple store holding as many iphones as he/they can.
In my head I changed the company spokesman's name to Liu Kang. "FINISH HIM!"
Oops double post.
OH MY GOD!!!!!
YOU MEAN A ENTIRE BUSINESS PLAN AROUND 1 SINGLE PRODUCT.... IS A BAD THING???!!!
WTF!!!! DAMN THOSE PRODUCT LIFE CYCLES!!
With the possible exception of brothels...
well done sir...
Brothels are recession proof - although the price of Grade B pussy is deflating.
Some never get over the fact mother broke you and father let her. Oops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2HcLKn5RqW8
"Kiss me where it stinks", she said. (Drives her to New Joisey) That was funny!
I fully expect the number of hard-up LA secretaries & receptionists who drive up to Vegas for a weekend of lite hooking to climb. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you. Semi-pro ass is reasonably priced; usually a lot of fun; and the gals are actually kind of cheerful.
Even brothels diversify into serveral "services" and "flavours", not to mention "combinations".
Yes, but that's the "SERVICE" sector.
Don't tell coke and mcdonalds. $137B in cash, what dumbasses, you wouldn't have thought that apple just had the best quarter in the history of the world if you take into account the minus one week for the quarter.
Can't believe iPhone sales are slowing after the holiday quarter. That's NEVER happened. Geez, CNBC and ZH thick as thieves with the apple bashing.
http://www.zdnet.com/apples-iphone-5-overtakes-samsung-as-best-selling-s...
the real story
http://africa.chinadaily.com.cn/business/2013-02/20/content_16240784.htm
This is an excerpt from the article you referenced:
"A worker at the Henan Employment Center said the recruitment suspension might have something to do with the diminished output of the iphone 5."
LOL- tad bitter about not selling at $700, are we?
THOSE are PROCESS suppliers.
APPLE is a ELECTRONIC supplier.
Totally different business :)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
You must be a Apple "investor" that just came in from the Yahooollloooollloo board :)
The only things selling well right now are guns, ammo, booze and lottery scratch-offs. We live in interesting times.
...'course lottery scratch-offs are just a 'tax' that feels like a purchase.
It's just a redistribuition of wealth.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/18/3240965/florida-lottery-breaks-scr...
http://flalottery.com/pressRelease.do?searchID=197338
Make no doubt about it...these "leaks" will continue all week until our glorious leaders fold like a cheap lawn chair and punt on sequestration...All a coordinated attempt to provide soundbites for our Congressmen to lob at eachother.
CONgressCritter.
There, fixed it.
The beatings will continue until morale improves...
...and, the layoffs will continue until everyone is employed.
If they can only keep it all together until the Sequestration event can be blamed. The media is doing its job by apportioning blame to congress and the president equally.
Even with that we'll eventually add 7 trillion to the debt.
Boenher will cave under the massive ad campaign featuring scores of children. You know he'll cave and stab a knife in those kids backs.
Have you ever seen the Wile E. Coyote/roadrunner skit where the coyote puts up a tiny umbrella just before a giant boulder crushes him? Sequestration is that little umbrella...irrelevant.
It is so amazing how all of this happens and yet the populace in America just ignores the reality of the bullshit that is crumbling amongst us.
This is also reflective in the fact that the cost of living in China is up. Therefore, workers who usually would "punt" after working 6-18 months at this slave shop, are coming back to work - because they NEED the fuckin' money. But it ain't there, b/c the Americans who buy their crap - don't have any to buy the cheap shit they make.
BTW, I still have no idea why people "fear" China. They suppress speech. They kill innocent women, children. I mean, our military does it too.......but these Communist small dicked fucks do it to their OWN people.
China will go the way of Venezuela of the 1960's. I wonder what will Tim Cook do then?
The next iPhone should be made of gold and silver with the ability to shoot bullets. It would be a best seller.
"The Man with the Golden Phone", sounds like a BlockBuster! :>D
The roaring teens. 90 years of bankster market manipulations. Wake me when the wars start.
This time things should be interesting since UFOs are involved.
You know the damn president has been checking out his bunker during his vacation. Maybe we'll get lucky and he won't return.
Talked with a couple of civ.gov people over dinner last night, and they're actually looking forward to having fridays off for the next 26 weeks.
Manna from heaven, they said.
Oops, wrong thread (hehe).
ARE YOU IN JAIL RIGHT NOW?!
Maybe Apple could print paper Iphones and declare that a product? Stock would triple!
With gas prices skyrocketing up 51 cents in just 2 months, they'll be a lot of consumer products sitting on the shelves collecting dust.
http://cnsnews.com/blog/julia-seymour/gas-prices-soar-51-cents-just-two-...
Just wait till they have to bring the summer blends online.
pods
China has so far supported or ill economies but if their great leaders feel cornered by an angry population due to a falling agregate demand ... well they might set up that gold standard once for all !
This is a clear indication Apple is loosing it's shine.
i bet production in the FAKE IPhone factory is booming....China has no problem doing that....
"We do not have the word 'limit' in theApple vocabulary"
Pure hubris.
Unlimited exponential growth... Forever?
Are we living now in a world where even the Laws of physics are denied?
Don't those upper level executives know that the consumer pays it's christmas credit card bill in Feb. Or do they all live under rocks?
I guess those Foxxconn workers will just have to get used to eating those new 'Polo'TM brand steaks.
"Wolf's heart and Dog's lungs" means totally useless to the Chinese.
I thought that meant the secret formula for wonton filling.
whereever you find economic misery - you'll find a central bank
the three amigos... iran, n. korea, and cuba
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1680855/pg1
please note: creepy site, but the facts checked out...
'China Mobile... a generational-leapfrog out of time and place, replacing America's AT&T as the world's most monopolistic behemoth?! Who'd known?
Does a tired/tried? and old heuristic/hubris? USSA ,really want to go toe-too-tow? with the 'newly self-ordained world superpower'?, over cyber [industrial sabotage/ IP Theft?] criminality/ security???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Mobile http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZTE
http://www.techcrunch.com/2013/02/07/huawei-zte-and-lenovo-moved-into-th...
'LTE-A: Trailblazing Towards 4G' ___ 'Cloud Radio: The Best Choice in the 4G Era' ___ 'China Mobile Hong Kong: A New Milestone in 4G LTE'
http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/endata/magazine/ztetechnologies/2011/no1/article...
http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/endata/magazine/ztetechnologies/2013/no1/article...
http://wwwen.zte.com/cn/endata/magazine/ztetechnologies/2013/no1/article...
Note: Is Japan really worth the trouble, and who gives a fuck about old-europe-- and a anachronistic Trilateralist`Montage!?
jmo
thankyou Tyler
Welcome to Chinese 'Year of the Horse'.
Is this the same story as the horse meat story? I can't keep them straight.
Ahhh, you are all getting to upset about this news. WalMart, Apple, company specific, not a problem, just neighborhood stores. Buy AMZN, word has it their PE will lower to 400 next quarter. Oh, and continue to sell your gold. No need for that anymore.
Beyond words.
Soon Google Will Be The Most Valuable US Corporation
http://chartistfriendfrompittsburgh.blogspot.com/2013/02/soon-google-wil...
"yes sir, I'll go whip worker 1138-iTHX" said Chang as he realized he loved Big Brother Bing..
So... People really aren't buying iCrap with student loans? Which is it, Tyler?
Hmmmm, Good point. This is a good topic for The things the that make you go hmmmm segment
"And the markets still continues to wave it off as one off events."
This morning i hear that the DOW is 150 points from an all time high. The goal is a headline. "DOW Sets Record High".
In 2007, the recession began in December. The Dow was jumping to get to 14,000, in October, just 2 months before the recession began. The top should have happened some months before, according to "the market leads the economy by 6 to 9 months" mantra.
The market isn't a leading indicator, the market is a manipulation. "Nothing can knock this market down, not even interest rates." "Nothing can knock this market down, not even high oil prices." Those are near quotes from 2007 from CNBC on the floor of the NYSE. The market was then knocked down 57% on the S&P.
When the market ignores news, after the inflection point is hit, it pays attention to it with a passion, as it has to catch up with where it should have been if it was actually leading the economy.
A saturated iphone market is BULLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!
"FoxConn, the world's largest tech-focused employer with 1.2 million workers"
Hiring freeze. Over Apple iPhone sales. I thought Foxconn was supposed to be installing 1 million robots over the next few years. What is that going to do to hiring at Foxconn?
Wow! And the Samsung Galaxy S IV is still an eternity (2 months) away from hitting the shelves.
Foxconn in the Freezer business? I never could have guessed.
Oh Jesus Christ you apple hating bigots! The FT has the real reason http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-20/apple-declines-after-assembler-...
"Foxconn halted recruitment until the end of March after more employees returned from the Chinese New Year break than a year earlier, Bruce Liu, a spokesman for the Taipei-based company, said today in a phone interview. The decision wasn’t related to iPhone 5 production, he said, refuting an earlier report in the Financial Times that linked the hiring freeze to a slowdown in orders for the handset. Carolyn Wu, an Apple spokeswoman in Beijing, didn’t respond to requests for comment."
Awesome. No doubt the (nominal) S&P will soar on this news. Time to buy SPY and lever up.
i think a new wave of Obama-phone is coming right now..........................