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European "Democracy" Full Frontal - EU Parliament Head Tells Italians Not To Vote For Silvio
To say that Germany does not love Silvio Berlusconi would be an understatement. But not even we thought European "democracy" would stoop so low as to tell Italians not to bring Bunga back or else. As Reuters reports, the German president of the European Parliament, once compared to a Nazi concentration camp guard by former Italian prime minister Silvio Berlusconi, warned Italians on Thursday not to back the scandal-ridden media tycoon at the ballot box. Martin Schulz is the latest in a line of German politicians to express fears about a possible Berlusconi comeback largely due to worries he will halt Rome's reform drive that has helped to lift investor confidence in the euro zone. "Silvio Berlusconi has already sent Italy into a tailspin with irresponsible behavior in government and personal escapades," Schulz was quoted as saying in German daily Bild.
Ironically, as today's PMI data confirm, it is somewhat hypocritical of Germany to accuse Italy of anything since in the Zero-Sum mercantilist union, it is only Germany, now that France has careened off the cliff, that benefits from everyone else's misfortune. The irony is that Germany should be rooting for Silvio - after all they need that EURUSD some 1000 pips lower to boost German exports, and when all hell breaks loose with Italian bond spread, Germany will simply inject another €500 billion in current account liquidity via Target2 (even if it means crushing PIMCO and their long Italy bond position). To pretend that anything in Europe at this moment is about solidarity is hypocrisy of the nth degree.
Anyway, back to the Europe where any trace of a majority popular opinion must be promptly crushed as in any true totalitarian despotism.
In quotes not printed in the paper but sent in an advance copy of the report, Schulz went on to urge Italians to vote for continued reforms.
"Much is at stake in the forthcoming elections, including making sure that the confidence built up by (Prime Minister) Mario Monti is not lost. I am very confident that Italian voters will make the right choice for their country."
There is bad blood between Berlusconi and Schulz, a Social Democrat.
In 2003, the then Italian prime minister said he would like to suggest Schulz, who had criticized his policies, for the role of a Kapo in a film on Nazi concentration camps. A Kapo was a camp inmate given privileges for supervising prison work gangs.
Berlusconi later brushed off the comment, saying he was being ironic and had referred to a television comedy series.
Merkel herself, who has supported Monti's austerity drive and has a difficult relationship with Berlusconi, has kept mum on who she would like to see lead the euro zone's third biggest economy .
Monti risked embarrassing her this week by saying Merkel did not want the centre-left Democratic Party (PD) to win, following Berlusconi's remark that Monti would join forces with the PD after the election "with Merkel's blessing".
Something tells us a German telling Italians to vote for a pro-Goldman Sachs endorsed regime in this case embodied in a vote again one person, may have just sealed the outcome of this weekend's Italian election. And not in a way that will make Goldman Sachs, or ze Germans, happy.
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How do you say screw off in Italian?
"Va' fa' un culo"
If you are really pissed..
Grazie.
He's gettin' the Ron Paul treatment and he ain't even a threat to the "system". Hell, he's an integral part of the rot.
Must be some little voices in their heads calling BS on themselves.
Conscience anybody.
OK, OK, so he is creepy, a but too flashy and horny as a billy goat.
But what's new other than he flaunts it?.
Photo caption contest:
Krauts no likey teh bunga?
Hey the Krauts destroyed Europe in the 1900's why shouldn't they carry on in the 2000's?
And at no point do they promote Bunga parties, gas ovens yes, 3 girls at once no.
Silvio = Il Duce II
Caught between a rock and and a rock!
GS backed or Il Duce #2?
Under any other circumstances, one would consider this a ringing endorsement for the candidate in question.
This conundrum is calculated to make the electorate's head explode, like that robot in the old Star Trek episode.
Why do Europeans still feel the need for "national" presidents and prime ministers, when the EU already has a President? President Herman Van Rompuy may not have the charm and charisma of a Barack Obama or a David Cameron, but if you’re after a leader with quiet stoicism and a passion for creating a united Europe, then Herman Van Rompuy is the ideal president. Europeans need to start feeling proud to be European. Together, people are stronger, and the more people can collectivize their skills, energy and creativity, the greater we can be as a species. Ultimately, we need to create a world government with a global central bank and and a global currency. This global government will be run by the brightest minds, and our monetary policy will be directed by the most educated and learned economics professors in the world. Once we have the resources and institutional leadership to enact policy on global level, there is no limit to our success as a species.
what's to like about europe really ? i'm not proud to be european, it's a fucking soviet state !
Proof positive that Europe will take anyone....even if they want to behead you.
siamo d'accordo - we agree
lol!
Why does any human need to commit to a "nation"? Thats complete bullshit anyway. Nationalism (as well as patriotism) are just idiotic innovations of narcissistic people addicted to might.
Because geographical borders defined by politicians are the foundational axioms for morality, denoting the difference between moving and immigration, between trade and importing and exporting, between hiring and offshoreing. I'm not saying we should get rid of national boundaries - national borders have an essential ethical function. Instead, what I propose is a supernational, global government that sits on top of nation states. It's simply another layer of leadership that enacts global legislation across the nation states.
A global government would only increase complexity if you are not willing to disband nations. It would not prevent wars between nations, it would not be wanted nor accepted by the majority of the people. Just like the EU. Only a minority in Europe is happy with this supernational EU government that cannot even be elected directly. The EU is blamed for almost everything that goes wrong.
The planet-nation would only make sense if you adopt it to a new economic system and "redesign" the social system, power structures, etc. No way thats gonna work without a massive crisis leading to millions of people dying cus of war or poverty.
I'm not quite sure who is worse ... you or Steve from Virginia.
Probably Steve, he never responds.
Either way, if you're trolling --- bravo. Very well played. If you're not ... nahhhh
you gotta be trolling.
what you don't seem to recognise and MDB does is that we ALREADY have a de facto world government run by Oligarchs; aka the global networked TBTF banks + ExxonMobil et al+ Google/Apple et al+ Facebok/amazon+ Monsanto/agri + Nestle/food + Walmart/ retail +Tax havens in Caymanista land where NO government can control their profits...
SO if the economic juggernaut power structure matrix is already in place all it needs are Van Rompuys type figurehead creatures, a dime a dozen, as elected page boys to bring the sheeple on board to that reality in terms of political structures who just RUBBERSTAMP reality.
MDB is totally right and he is not trolling.
That's today's reality, and the Nation States ARE ALL bankrupt, in the face of these NEW rulers of the world. The political boys just bow to these guys, very few want to fight them.
Whose deluded and whose on the ball?
You have to differ between social order and economic order. The government of a nation defines the general framework for the economy (law, monetary system) and makes sure that people stick to the rules of this framework (police, military). A kind of power structure comes with this "social order". However, there is another power structure that is based on money. Those with money have might to control those who want money oder owe debt.
I think that those with money tend to control those who "rule" (the goverment). But still, it was always the one with money that "runs" the world (is mighty).
But still, it was always the one with money that "runs" the world (is mighty)....
Spot on.
A government w/O economic teeth; aka taxes paid and laws that can be enforced; aka paid and responsible policemen and army, cannot exercise its rule. So the social and economic orders are married in reality. Its a question of who carries a bigger economic stick.
Today undoubtedly its the Oligarchs. They don't respond to anybody except their stock holders. And people are not citizens to them; just consumers.
They respond to stockholders?....uh, dunno about that one.
More accurately, national borders define the geographical limits of state enforcement. i.e. they define the limits within which your "elected" leaders have your "permission" to ass-rape you, hard and sans-lube.
"Practically every action taken by state officials introduces violence or the spoils of violence into an otherwise free society."
Max Weber
Anything outside those bounds is war...eerrr, sorry; is a "police action in support of freedom, democracy, etc..."
We already had a semi-global government that sit on top of nation states. It called Soviet Union and the layer of leadership is known as communism.
Fortunately, it was not a truly global government. If it were we would be all now very happy to be building the 'bright tomorrows' like our former comrades in Maoist China or North Korea while waiting for hours in a queue to buy oranges or bananas.
If even I had some sympathy for your dreaming I would certainly not agree to nominate any of the current leaders for global government position. I particularly mean none of lying and irresponsible politicians, greedy bankers, predatory cartels, despotic dictators, insidious propaganda manipulators, ashkenazi lunatics and their corrupt and servile goyim puppets - just to name a few for illustration. To put it simply, none of those would be eligible for such a challenging position. Perhaps Jesus Christ and his twelve Apostles could qualify.
The concept of wise, fair-minded and functioning global government is so difficult that mankind at the current level of knowledge and ethical disposition should quickly forget any such ideas. The sooner it does, the better.
You're just stupid, like any fascist had to be.
Moar layers - yeah, that should fix it... and if not, yet moar some! :P
hahahahaaaaa.....i actually spell my laugh...unlike teenage girls who use LOL
lol tee hee
brush your shoulders off......your scales are showing
That's ass backwards
The Nation's Role is to Commit to its People
They don't bathe regularly. Why the Christ would they want hang tight with each other.
Note to self.
Never eat or drink while reading a post from MDB.
MDB for Emperor. Love the sarcasm.
MDB, you're writing reminds me of the MAd Magazine fold-ins I used to read as a kid...
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...may not have the charm and charisma of a Barack Obama or a David Cameron...
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Barack Obama has great charm and charisma.
David Cameron has a little charm (to his political followers), and no charisma, which is why his party wants him replaced with Boris Johnson.
si dice vaffanculo tutto attaccato!!!
comunque vince Beppe Grillo :D
yeah! FORZA BEPPE !!!
'fanculo = go get fucked in your ass
fottiti = go fuck yourself
:D
va fa "in" culo.
say it fast sounds like this: vaffanculo
Vaffanculo
ma va'ffanculo
'fanculo
fottiti
:D always enjoy spreading this italian lessons
>> look out for the 5 STARS MOVEMENT instead
concordo.. ridicoli sti americani che commentano la nostra politica dall'estero leggendo i giornali che citano la repubblica e il corriere.. bell'informazione neutra
dai, un po' come noi che commentiamo quella america senza saperne praticamente un cazzo
ahah in effetti :D però li hai 50% di dire una cosa corretta lol
ma tu non sei italiano! "li hai 50%"... ma che lingua è? :D
azz come sei precisino :D .. scommettendo sulla vittoria di uno dei due candidati alla presidenza degli stati uniti d'america, hai il cinquanta percento di possibilità di azzeccare l'alternativa giusta... così sembro più italiano, milanese doc :D
avete ragione
Like Germany didn't know beforehand that Italians have been electing porn stars to office for years. So when the SHTF the Italians aren't allowed artistic license/sheer irony with their elections? Please, when the party starts in Italy, you'll want this guy at the helm. He'll know what to do instinctively.
They love Mussolini............until they hung him.
After Berlusconi was ousted, he had made comments on several occasions which inferred that Italy might need to back to the Italian Lira. Perhaps this is why the Germans and the Goldmans need him to be out of office.
He can not win, Goldman will not allow it.
What the hell, Italianos.
Go ahead, vote for a flyer. If it makes all the other countries mad, all the more reason to vote for him.
Financially speaking, you're totally fucked no matter who you vote for.
Might as well have some fun.
Ciao
correct ... but, who knows.. we'll see which death we'll die
se cancelliamo/blocchiamo gli interessi sul debito quelli fregati, finanziariamente parlando, sono i creditori non i debitori
He is a stud that does young girls, he is going to win.
Yep, a German telling Italians how to vote is really going to work.
That's the strategy, reverse psychology.
This is just like watching Jim Cramer giving us stock picks.
Or Joe Kernan being sexy.
WhatthefuckedIjustsay?
See, I toldja. It just don't work, now, do it?
I always love it when politicians say "I am very confident" which roughly tranlsates into "There's not a shit's chance in a pay toilet".
Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"
You are completely free to do what we want - the new European democracy.
Anything Schultz say should be an incentive to do the opposite
Absolutely. Berlusconi said a lot of stupid things but when he offered the role of the Capo to Martin Schulz he was spot on.
I hope the commedian wins. I almost voted for Rosanne Barr here but thought Gary Johnson was funnier.
Remember last time Italians sided with the German's?
Time to bunga-bunga Schulz's anus.
Germany will get their fourth reich.
Heil Angela.....kinda catchy.
We are all a part of Greater Germany...
Democracy at its finest hour.
Silvio needs a chance at payback for being thrown under a bus by who he thought were his Euro buddies.
Call it "BUNGALEAKS".
Silvio needs to get some rest.. some ETERNAL rest. The fucker's 77!
isn't that the best way for him to be elected ? everyone hates the european parliament !!!
Schultz just pissed in his own gaspazzio.
Enjoy.
Big Juventus fan here, but Silvio is the man for Italy.
Hence, I do not like AC Milan that much, but I like Silvio (I'm not italian).
Forza Silvio.
se lo vuoi te lo regaliamo volentieri (non so dove abiti) noi ci teniamo stretto il Beppe :D
LOL
I'm fluent in Italian. let's make this in English.
Beppe is ok as long as he's in opposition.
Anyone else is ok as long as they stay in opposition
Silvio "Banana" Berlusconi è l'uomo giusto per lo Zimbabwe!
He did a lot of good things for Italy that nobody is talking about, like loosening labor laws.
You sure?
He did a lot of things .. like look for his own ass for 20 years. nothing more, nothing less
In this last mandate he always raised taxes, non only once he lowered a tax.
Now he is complaining that taxes are too high.
Europe is slowly sliding into an abyss. It is not clear how deep that abyss is at this point. Cracks between France and Germany are growing unbridgable.
US instead ...
Berlusconi thinks that Musolini was super awesome except for all of the Jew killin and such.
Looks like the P2 is about to make the big move.
He does not think that.
He said some similarly stupid stuff which was not stupid at all.
He's trying to get the far right vote for him by saying some good words about Mussolini, that's it.
There are a lot of Italians who hold Mussolini in high regard to this day. Apparently Mussolini did a lot of land "redistribution", and those families who were on the receiving end have not forgotten what he did for them.
Berlusconi does not exist: it's on hologram, man
In Italy, bribes, mistresses, and personal escapades are looked at as favorable attributes.
In Washington DC as well,
Marion Barry anyone?
"First, it was not a strip bar, it was an erotic club. And second, what can I say? I'm a night owl."
"Something tells us a German telling Italians to vote for a pro-Goldman Sachs endorsed regime in this case embodied in a vote again one person, may have just sealed the outcome of this weekend's Italian election. And not in a way that will make Goldman Sachs, or ze Germans, happy".
Let hope so, looking forward to the show
I'm glad he's coming back as Mr. Banzai was running out of reasons to say "bunga-bunga".
Haha,
"Order the calamari...or else."
We all learned the hard way that the NAZI party doesnt play games.....
so....comparing every German politician to the 3rd Riech is absurd for starters, but I know he is the only courageous person to speak out loud and say STOP PLAYING THESE FUCKING GAMES....but fuck.....elect him and see what happens....I could never tell my kids NOT to touch that hot stove....they just had to see for themselves!
ITALY....LOOK AT BULGARIA NOW....BEFORE-AFTER?
Hitler's opinion of Silvio video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtiMrc8tsEo
Silvio Berlusconi - love him or hate him, he's good value on the entertainment front:
Berlusconi defends bribery as "necessary"
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/italy/130215/berlusconi-defends-bribery-necessary
Lots more here, folks !:O)
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi
If everyone is corrupt, only the honest corrupt wins the hearts.
I'd say Silvio is now a shoe-in - landslide.
At the moment the InTrade line does not seem to think so, but it's still early: http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=770015
I sure hope Berlosconi wins. That would be so awesome to watch him stroll back into the next crisis-summit like "I'm back motha-faakers"
Yes, he's a real laugh the old fart .. if you're not italian
What? Isn't it interesting when a country in trouble looks back more favorably at past leaders instead of current ones? Bush in 2016!
As much as I despise all these bEUrocrats , at least they provide the best Comedey Series ... since Hogans Heroes .
;-)
BTW .. didn't Berlusconi say he's leave the Euro ? .... or was it the complete "EU" !
Democracy is BAD for capital markets.
Don't people understand that we are to trust appointed technocrats to do the right thing.
Now the right thing for whom is the question but technocrats don't like questions.
You are free to do what we tell you. You are free to do what we tell you!
By this statement Merkel via proxy indicates de facto that all Europe is now her concern, signalling clearly she is "all in" to defend the Euro.
We are now in for an awesome fight to bolster an alternative to USD as reserve. That is the long term ambition of Germany and the BRICs. Something that cannot be said out in the open by Mutti as Germany for historical reasons is both PAx Americana controlled and now destined to become lead challenger of Pax Americana first world economic supremacy in the next decade. Lagarde and Merkel will seem more and more on the same page...if the FED decides to change tack under sequestration reality. The ball in the next month is in the political camps of Obamy and Monti...fireworks bigtime in global markets if either of those go south.
...As Japan falters and Chindia growls for BRICS along with Putinistan...The gold unknown can come back with a vengeance.
...As Sothern Europe implodes and France dangles by a thread to its partnership with Germany, we are now heading for a situation where Merkel's Germany will be more and more involved in a "Monologue of the VAgina" with herself, to represent European reality. Euro zone will soon be 1 big tit + 26 small twits.
I'm sure that will make Nigel Porridge slurp his bangers and mash down. Small consolation for having his home currency given a gang banged clockwork orange shake down. Some clowns are sad sacks on a wooden horsed merry go round. Stranger things have happened on a runaway train.
Falak, you watch too much Sesame Street.
If there hasn't been any real movement towards an alternative currency, there won't be one from here on in.
We are going back to the future. There are two real powers in the world, the United States and Germany. This time around, they are working together. No one is interested in a currency coming from some region with low national IQs. Everyone will talk a good line but vote with their pocketbook. That is human nature.
Thats plan A, I agree, unless the past has made the USD construct unsustainable, as ZH and the contrarians say is the case.
My point is that Mutti does have a Plan B, IN CASE WHAT ZH SAYS WILL HAPPEN, DOES HAPPEN.
THEN ALL BETS ARE OFF THE PAX AMERICANA current PAGE and a country like Germany will have more leverage...
I'm just connecting the dots in case plan B becomes reality.
Well, the ongoing financial & banking crises sure has driven the political elites' true colours to be exposed.
First we had Greece being dumped on by a parachuted-in ex-squid bossman. Then the Italians got one. Then Spain got another one. And now we have the Krauts telling Italians who not to vote for in their elections.
Not to be outdone, we recently had the Obama Administration issuing a warning to David Cameron before his meeting with Fuhrerin Merky about the un-wiseness of Britain leaving the EU.
The corrupt, unelected EU-crat-in-chief Manuel Barreloso (a commie) said it all: "The Future of Europe Is Too Important To Be Left To Democracy".
I say: "The Future of Europe Is Too Important To Be Left To Unelected Fascist/Commie Political Elites."
irresponsible behavior in government...WTF?
I'm well conditioned to the surreal speak of these abominations commonly referred to as 'government officials', but did this twit really make reference to irresponsible behavior in government as if to suggest that this would in some manner be an exceptional or unexpected occurrence?
"EU Parliament Head Tells Italians Not To Vote For Silvio"
Thereby insuring his re-election...'cuz if the Italians are anything like most other folk, foreigners telling them what to do will elicit the opposite action.
....until Silvio Berlusconi
I remember Berlusconi was able to define Merkel as "culona inchiavabile".
It sounds so offensive that, even I'm Italian, I have difficulties to traslate it.
What a stupid text. The President of the European Parliament, Mr. Schulz, is a member of the
Socialist Party (equivalent of the Democrats), and his current position is equivalent to the one of John Boehner.
Would anyone be surprised if John Boehner would advise Californians not to vote for Jerry Brown, a Democrat?
What a stupid text. The President of the European Parliament, Mr. Schulz, is a member of the
Socialist Party (equivalent of the Democrats), and his current position is equivalent to the one of John Boehner.
Would anyone be surprised if John Boehner would advise Californians not to vote for Jerry Brown, a Democrat?
You see, it's reverse phsychology - tell the peasants not to vote, they will do so out of spite. Voila, EURUSD down a 1,000 pips.
Cheaper Mercedes, bitchez.
i guess Berlusconi is not part of the bildeberger in crowd....
Awesome. Nobody knows shit about anything. I would say the bankster's élite has done a rather amazing work.