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Socialist France Responds To Titan CEO, Hilarity Ensues

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Presented without any comment (see original Titan letter here), and google translated to add Babel fishing insult to an already injurious, or is that hilarious, exchange between a hard core capitalist and a socialist... perfect ignorance, admiration of Obama, trade tariff threats, oh, and don't mention the war.

From Arnaud Montebourg,

Sir,

 

Your extremely insulting words also testify perfect ignorance of what our country is France, its key strengths, such as its world-renowned attractiveness and its relationship with the United States of America.

 

France has the pride to welcome on its soil over 20,000 foreign companies representing nearly two million jobs, a third of its industrial exports, 20% of private research and development and 25% of industrial employment. Each year, there are 700 decisions of locating foreign investment and job creators of value in France. And this strong attractiveness does not weaken, on the contrary from year to year, it is getting stronger.

 

Within these foreign investments, the United States occupied the first place. 4200 subsidiaries of U.S. companies employ nearly 500,000 people. The presence of U.S. companies in France is very old: Haviland since 1842 IBM since 1914 Coca-Cola since 1933, General Electric since 1974. And many others. These links are from year to year renewed: in 2012, companies like Massey Ferguson, Mars Chocolate, or 3M chose to increase their presence in France.

 

What are the decisive factors in the choice of location? Foreign companies in France are seeking quality infrastructure, a lifestyle appreciate an energy amongst the most competitive in Europe, and a very favorable environment to research and innovation. But most importantly, away from this your comments are ridiculous and derogatory, all these companies know and appreciate the quality and productivity of the workforce French, commitment, knowledge, talent and skills of workers French.

 

To amplify the attractiveness, the French government has recently taken measures 35 in the National Pact for growth, competitiveness and employment. Among them, the tax credit for competitiveness and employment allege coats of 6% wage firms between 1 and 2.5 SMIC. In addition, the social partners have reached an agreement on the securisation employment, which illustrates the quality of social dialogue in France and the importance that the government attaches to which I belong.

 

Can I remind you that Titan, the business you run is 20 times smaller than Michelin, a French leader in technology our international influence, and 35 times less profitable? That is to say how a Titan could learn and gain enormously from a French settlement.

 

France is especially proud and happy to welcome American investment between our two countries are linked by an old friendship and passionate. Moms do you know what makes La Fayette to the United States of America? For our part, we French will never forget the sacrifice of young American soldiers on the beaches of Normandy to deliver us from Nazism in 1944. And since you choose to criticize your own country in the letter that you send me, I must tell you how the French government admire the policy implemented by President Obama. As Minister for Industry, I am particularly sensitive to actions in favor of the relocation of manufacturing jobs in the United States and radical innovation. It is our policy that even some present with the parent inspired by your President.

 

You mention your intention to exploit the labor of some countries to flood our markets. I must tell you that this calculation wrong and short-term and will sooner or later face a justified reaction (just as in the US). This is already the case in France with allies increasingly numerous in the Union European arguing for reciprocity of exchanges and organize against dumping. In the meantime, rest assured you can count on me to monitor, by the competent services of the French government with redoubled zeal, the importation of your tires. They will ensure compliance with all standards particularly applicable materials social, environmental and technical.

 

I beg you to accept, Sir, the assurances of my highest.

 

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Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:57 | 3263130 The Juggernaut
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Foreign investments... from the American tax payers.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:58 | 3263142 GetZeeGold
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You don't seem to get it....we're giving you a chance to send us your money.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:10 | 3263196 NotApplicable
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I need me some new Titans.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:26 | 3263275 TerminalDebt
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Did he say Michelin is 20times bigger and 35 times less profitable?

I couldn't tell, his babelfish is on coffee break.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:47 | 3263373 eatthebanksters
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Right out of 'Atas Shrugged.'  Unbelieveable...no response to the facts laid out by the CEO of Titan, pure party line bullshit and I love the threats at the end. Wow...this asshole wants good and inexpensive products for his people doesn't he.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:55 | 3263446 Silver Bully
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So what is he saying France will do . . . nationalize Titan? Hilarious. This is why the company is shutting the plant down. If the French industry minister thinks Michelin is chomping at the bit to hire those 3 hour a day workers, I have a bridge made of cheese flowing over a river of wine for sale . . . cheap.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:15 | 3263537 BKbroiler
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still, Maurice got smacked down.  not saying LePew is right, but writing an open letter to the finance minister of France dissing the whole workforce is stupid.  what did he think would happen?  The French might be lazy but everyone knows Michelin and nobody knows Titan, so he got the yippy dog treatment.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:55 | 3263628 SillySalesmanQu...
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Dear Titan,   I fart in your general direction....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa0cz2V_VqU

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 14:09 | 3264027 New England Patriot
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Trade war.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 20:39 | 3268791 phyuckyiu
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Did he really just try and triangulate how the last era of non-self absorbed Americans dying on their shores 70 years ago relates to buying a failed business in France with a failed workforce? That's reaching pretty deep in the b.s. bag.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 13:14 | 3263798 eatthebanksters
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BK...why put lipstick on that pig? It's time to start calling out the numbnuts in front of their sheeple...it''s the one thing they fear the most.  Think about it, growth is the only thing that wins elections and keeps governments in power...if things slow down its like taking away a kids desert, he's pissed but he can lve with it.  Right now the people that for so long have lived off the backs of others are about to be told that not only is there no desert, but the cupboards are empty and there is not enough to eat.  That's going to get some people real pissed off...governments fall on that kind of shit!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 13:38 | 3263882 ParkAveFlasher
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+1 BKB.  Although, the bottom line is that Le Travailleur Average Francais gets fired up and cuts his break from an hour-fifteen, to an hour-ten, on patriotic nationalism.  Expect a palpable bump in GDP.  Well played, French Minister of Cheese-Eating Break Time, well played.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 14:57 | 3264158 TheGardener
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Google Babelish bubbling is no translation. Don`t torture
us with this word garbage google spits out TD. Even if you
think it is just a junk government BS reply full of shit
please don`t spew that shitty translation into our reading
faces !

You might feel unappreciated for the exceptional wordsmith
you are but why at the same time encourage sloppy reading and comprehension skills by posting language garbage for
the real thing ? Do you look down on your readers and commentators so much as you hand this down with : "take that" ? Feel free to post translanguagefied BS on YOUR
site, you are the boss and we wipe off all that language
vomit from our faces.

P.S. You have enough of an international audience and potential volunteers to have
everything properly translated, some of us multiple double
agents in between languages...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 16:04 | 3264467 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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For all the joking, the French are not 100% wrong. They have the same per capita productivity as the US. They have the same kinds of deficits as the US. But they have a much better deal for those who live there. Health care is actually affordable and may be the best quality in the world. University costs almost nothing. Working conditions and worker's rights are much better than the US. The citizen enjoys the best infrastructure, from highways to bridges to cheap ubiquitous rail. And it's an outstandingly beautiful place.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 19:30 | 3268578 jwoop66
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Also!  Plenty of that AWESOME European Apartment housing!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 16:21 | 3264573 nofluer
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but everyone knows Michelin

Yeah... *I* sure do! 40 years ago they were great tires. Expensive, but worth the extra money. Don't know what happened, but the last Michelins I bought were crap. Two our of four were DOA on the car and had to be replaced. Now I'll buy Chinese or Mexican (does Mexico MAKE tires?) or some other brand. If I'm going to get crap, why pay high prices for it? Actually... I just went out and looked - I have Hankook tires (S Korean) on both truck and car.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 17:06 | 3264765 NihilistZero
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"...everyone knows Michelin and nobody knows Titan..."

 

Not anymore.  What's that saying about any publicity being good publicity?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 14:58 | 3264178 Opinionated Ass
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And now we have proof that governments apply regulations differently depending on whether you're a friend or enemy. Sure we all surmised this happens a lot, but shocking to see it confirmed in writing from a top official.

rest assured you can count on me to monitor, by the competent services of the French government with redoubled zeal, the importation of your tires.

But Obamacare will be even-handed, right?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 21:34 | 3265535 msamour
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So you agree it's better to buy a factory in China, and India, treat the workers like slave, then dump the market with cheap potentially dangerous tires? Opinions around here have definitely been warped of late.

 

And forget about the Frech guy. Who gives a shit about French people. What I really care about, is that no one seems to have noticed a rep from an American Corporation is telling the entire world how they are screwing over their own people. If they want to do that to france, you can bet your ass they are doing it in the US. Wake up people.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:48 | 3263388 toys for tits
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I guess it's saying something that he didn't surrender.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:56 | 3263451 francis_sawyer
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This is what they occupy their time with when they're not eating cheese, surrendering, or farting in your general direction...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:10 | 3263516 Dealyer Turdin
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It starts with them telling Titan to surrender... but we all know how it ends.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:18 | 3263562 Navymugsy
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But I did hear a rifle falling to the ground in the distance.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:32 | 3263615 McMolotov
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Sounds like the French dude is all oui-oui'd up.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:39 | 3263639 whotookmyalias
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LOL, I am willing to offer my services of rewriting his future correspondence into proper English for a mere 6 figures, a prepaid Paris apartment on Ile St Louis, and a car allowance.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 18:16 | 3264996 thisandthat
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No, he says Titan is 20 times smaller and 35 times less profitable than Michelin.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:26 | 3263277 zuuma
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"France is especially proud and happy to welcome American investment between our two countries are linked by an old friendship and passionate."

Except,of course, when it's politically expedient to obstruct, hinder, or embarrass the good 'ol USA. Particularly during a Republican administration.

"For our part, we French will never forget the sacrifice of young American soldiers on the beaches of Normandy to deliver us from Nazism in 1944."

I'd say it's pretty much forgotten by everyone in France under 70.

Escpecially the fine French citizens who defaced and desecrated US Servicemen's graves at the Normandy, recently. And really? Grave desecration? Robbing childern & beating up old folks must have already been crossed off the list.

Someone at the time proposed that the American servicemen & women buried in the Normandy cemetaries be removed and reburied in the USA, where they would receive the care and reverence they deserve. While expensive, I thought that was a terrific idea. Imagine the treatment those graves are going to get when the french economy collapses and scapegoats are needed?

 

"...I must tell you how the French government admire the policy implemented by President Obama."

Truly NOT a selling point to attract businesses to communist France.

 

"Your extremely insulting words also testify perfect ignorance of what our country is France, its key strengths, such as its world-renowned attractiveness and its relationship with the United States of America."

No. I'd say we have a pretty decent idea of what that relationship is.

" I beg you to accept, Sir, the assurances of my highest."

Does that actually translate to - "high hard one"? Because that would make sense, here.

 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:09 | 3263511 CH1
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we French will never forget... the beaches of Normandy" I'd say it's pretty much forgotten by everyone in France under 70.

What's also forgotten is that there were French soldiers attacking the Allies when they arrived in Normandy. That part vanished from the record right away.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:19 | 3263573 Sanksion
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Come on. Don't let the sad clowns of the political reality show get in the way between french and americans. We share much more than we love to think we're different.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 13:38 | 3263881 destiny
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Ok we got your drift, you don't like france...but may I contradict you, French did not, do not forget D DAY in Normandy, there are sufficient TV programs to ensure that this part of history is known to all and by all.

I agree, the ministry should buy itself a good english translator, the letter wording sucks.   Now, while we appreciate your discontentment, maybe you'll accept a one buck a day job from your good ol american titan cie.

 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 14:27 | 3264093 zuuma
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"Ok we got your drift, you don't like france"

You are mistaken, Monsieur.

Americans don't hate France.

More like they don't care. Or think about it at all.

They neither like nor dislike France. Most Americans couldn't find it on a map.

We're focused on our guns & cheeseburgers. Euro-what?

As for Normandy people remembering, perhaps. It is their neighborhood.

How about Languedoc? Or Dauphine? Or Lorraine? Do they still care? Doubtful.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 15:19 | 3264248 Hacked Economy
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+1.  This is true.  We Americans certainly don't hate France, and we'd likely go over there to defend her again if necessary (with drones this time, not the lives of our men and women in uniform).  To us, France is neither our best friend nor our hated enemy, but more like the freckled younger sibling who whines and gets in the way when you're trying to get some work done.  You'd always be ready to step in and rescue her from the neighborhood bully, but you'd give her a good slap in the face and a stern lecture for stupidly mouthing off to said-bully in the first place.  Exasperating.

I think most Americans actually can find France on the map, but they consider it "flyover country".  If you're an American, you know what this means...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 16:29 | 3264624 FEDbuster
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I enjoy their toast and fries.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 00:15 | 3265997 thisandthat
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"French" fries are actually belgian.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 00:20 | 3266011 Orly
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Avec mayonnaise.

:D

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:28 | 3263286 Canadian Dirtlump
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He should have summed his letter up ( certainly already a magnum opus, and an intellectual homerun ) with: I FART IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION.

 

With any luck these french pinkos will all be relegated to sexually harrassing tourists in local hotspots like so many other miscreants.

 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:07 | 3263487 Urban Redneck
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It pains me to write it but the surrender monkey could actually learn something from the MBA buffoons (in addition to the definition and characteristics of dumping)...

This whole spat started because Goodyear sees the light of off-shoring jobs to make its European operations more profitable, Michelin is way ahead of Titan in this regard, which is why they are more profitable, initially there were the French colonists who Michelin exploited low cost rubber from, and when the got uppity Michelin transitioned to lower cost materials, just like when the French Unions got uppity Michelin transitioned to lower cost Asians...

As to maintaining "some" presence in France, name any big multinational and they have "a" presence.  This is a basic foundational requirement for ANY tax arb, transfer pricing, or other loophole exploitation strategy.  More important is the nature and function of operations conducted in the French wasteland... Aggregate statistics are misleading when not broken down by sector, industry, or scale.

Service sector jobs integrate well into French society, whereas a manufacturing operation just needs to maintain a beachhead for market access and a spot in line for government largess- the big 4 consulting firms shine in their natural paper pushing glory mindlessly exchanging memos for banknotes (or their digital equivalent) without actually creating any physical goods or wealth.  The labor unions may strive for 3 hrs talking/ 3 hrs work/1 hr lunch, but given the opportunity to match the 4hrs talking/ 2hrs lunch/ 2hrs work of their white-collar countrymen, they would jump at the opportunity.

Even I have looked at hanging out a shingle over there and over paying some fat frog to sit around mind the storefront.  If you export goods from France to the former French colonies the handouts export finance assistance schemes from the French taxpayer beat those offered by the German taxpayers.  If you really want to roll in the .gov gravy and still run a naturally profitable business you can own a Swiss firm, manufacture goods in Germany, transfer them to France, and then export them to the colonies.  But if you have any objection to paying people large sums of money to mindlessly push small piles of paper it's probably better to just avoid expanding a business to France. 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 15:23 | 3264267 Hacked Economy
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"surrender monkey"

Love it.  I've used that term myself for years, and I've never heard/seen it used by anyone else until this thread today.  Surrender monkeys...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:55 | 3263132 Zola
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Yep, a socialist french admires Obamao... I really wonder what could go wrong in USSA...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:07 | 3263185 Sudden Debt
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I really wonder what could go wrong in USSA...

well... if you discount everything THAT ALREADY WENT WRONG.... not a lot actually...

at least I hope for you guys...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:11 | 3263199 azzhatter
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Key phrase "We admire Obamao"  Enough said

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:59 | 3263140 Stackers
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Damn him for wanting to "exploit" all those poor Indians and Chinese by giving them "jobs"

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:21 | 3263581 BigJim
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Don't you GET it? They'd much rather be out in the fields and paddies, picking rice or tea or whatever it is foreign johnnies do all day.

By forcing them to work in factories making things like tyres, you force them to have a higher standard of living, maybe feed and even educate their children. You think they want that?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:58 | 3263143 Mercury
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Can I remind you that Titan, the business you run is 20 times smaller than Michelin, a French leader in technology our international influence, and 35 times less profitable?

On a net margin basis - really?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:00 | 3263150 Jayda1850
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need to buy michelin cds.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:28 | 3263290 Mercury
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If tire manufacturing and France are such a wonderful fit:
1) why is Goodyear bailing?
2) why isn’t Michelin bidding?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:47 | 3263380 kaiserhoff
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Euro based companies have heavy labor representation on the board of directors.  Any profits are quickly redistributed, stolen, rehypothecated..., take your choice. 

That's why there are so many great Euro growth stocks..., not.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:33 | 3263617 SilverMaples
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France clearly needs a future paper market for tires, ... it's imperative that the price of such a critical commodity is left open to "price discovery"!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:58 | 3263144 EmileLargo
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French "work ethic"? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:22 | 3263257 Steve in Greensboro
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Like "competent government".

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:12 | 3263528 Broccoli
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French government is a lot more competent than ours, that is for sure. Talking about the bureaucracy. I'd say our politicians are equally inept.

Of course saying one bureaucracy is slightly more efficient than another is basically like saying my case of herpes has less outbreaks than your case of herpes.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:36 | 3263629 whotookmyalias
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I have known many French workers who work hard and put in long hours. But even they will admit frustration with the taxes they pay for their effort in order to support those who won't work.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:59 | 3263146 Laser Shark
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Has Atlas Shrugged not been translated into French?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:03 | 3263163 GetZeeGold
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Apparently not.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:31 | 3263305 Nothing To See Here
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It has, but it's titled "La Greve" (The Strike) and they think it's about the workers quality of life...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:13 | 3263211 Joe Davola
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Somehow Wesley Mouch got translated as 'Lucky Pierre', whatever that means.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:07 | 3263506 gaoptimize
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Belly laugh.  Thanks.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:20 | 3263574 Dealyer Turdin
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Atlast Drugged.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 10:59 | 3263148 Mister Ponzi
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This is the clown who wanted to ban Korean car imports to France but was publicly destroyed by the EU trade commissioner.

France is a great country with respect to culture, nature, quality of food etc. I wish it was run by competent people.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:13 | 3263531 CH1
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Honestly, I've never been impressed with their food. (And I've tried many times, in several parts of the country.)

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:25 | 3263595 MillionDollarBoner_
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French food is generally of higher quality but expensive and don't even think about eating out in Paris unless you want your blood pressure through the roof. Parisian waiters have got ignoring the customer and distainful glances down to a fine art...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:38 | 3263636 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ CH1

+1

Certainly the food in their train stations (where we poor folk sometimes had to eat) is pretty bad, the food in ITALIAN train stations is better.

If you are prepared to drop some real euros, however, you can eat really good food in France.  Unfortunately the cheap stuff is garbage.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 15:56 | 3264420 TheGardener
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According to an Italian friend of mine which I argue with until he wisely responds in ancient Greek, the French were
food stuffing Germanic primitive tribes before Caterina de Medici brought them high cuisine and killed all the
frugal protestants for good measure in Bartholomeus Night.

Disclaimer : Ever since I got professionally introduced to french high cuisine, I tend to cook that way minus the butter and creme for kosher ingredients, but I do not fully obey the food laws either , wild boar yields no pork meat in my world and I skip the bad cheese allowed for the good that got banned on the assumption of non-manufactured rennet.

Contemporary Italian food such as pizza is poor mans food
borne out of sheer necessity, the food of the higher classes
did not survive in Italy proper.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:00 | 3263149 jover
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Shouldnt he be running a country instead of writing these stupid letters?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263174 Desert Irish
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Really, you think he wrote it? I'm guessing there were a few commitees formed and several thousand man hours spent on this...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:15 | 3263218 Turin Turambar
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He's running the country... into the ground, same as all socialists.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:41 | 3263348 rwe2late
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 Hollande is a Socialist in name only.

Despite what many incorrectly believe, Hollande's policies of militarism (NATO) and economics (EU financial) favor the established wealthy and their TBTF institutions, and NOT the lower and middle classes.

 Rich actors avoiding taxes are a sidehow diversion.

Hollande admires, follows, and imitates the policies of Obama, who is also NOT a Socialist. (And yes, Obama is not a libertarian capitalist either.)

Some here at ZH appear to have a rather Manichean belief that there exists only a choice between libertarian capitalism or "anything else".

To them, anything other than libertarian capitalism is all the same, thus they have no compunctions about using loose conflated definitions and false labels to vilify other political choices.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:51 | 3263409 Shizzmoney
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Hollande is a Socialist in name only.

Sounds familiar.....

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:01 | 3263477 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Socialism and a klepto-facist top heavy structure go hand in hand. It is like the marriage of peanut butter and chocolate. The socialists get to play Satan Claus while the kleptos steal everything. The more stolen from you the more grateful you are for the meager gifts from Satan Claus. The only way to keep the scheme up is through a police state once the distracted get wise the to the scheme.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:15 | 3263544 terex
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so u forgott to say what he is intentionally? He is not even a real socialist - just your normal nihilist guy who fancy power and beauty? What a suprise, isn't what most here have been saying all along.... that he fits exactly the norm of the post-modern socialist - nothing but prucedural execution of somebody elses thoughts to stay in - or gain - power.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:15 | 3263545 CH1
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Hollande is a Socialist in name only.

I'm sure your facts are correct, but who gives a shit?

He's a RULER, and that means that he takes people's money by force, intimidates them with violence, and wishes to be worshiped in return.

Screw him and all like him.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 16:22 | 3264581 TheGardener
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"You did not built that company" is the Robbin Hood territory within they argue and they step straight
into international socialism in name only to distinguish
themselves from national socialists policies which they try
to outdo by going straight for corporate fascism.

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 16:58 | 3268064 Turin Turambar
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rwe2late,

He's running the country... into the ground, same as all STATISTS.

Happy now? 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:59 | 3263466 Silver Bully
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'Shouldnt he be running a country instead of writing these stupid letters?'

He thinks writing letters IS running the country.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:00 | 3263152 Zen Bernanke
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ya, take that mr titan ceo!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:08 | 3263187 catacl1sm
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Your'e father was a hamster, and your mother smells of elderberries!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:28 | 3263284 Schmuck Raker
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You tiny-brained wiper of other people's bottoms!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:32 | 3263316 pods
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I faart in your general direction!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:55 | 3263435 The Boognish
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I unclog my nose at you!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:00 | 3263153 Flounder
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I'm sure after he wrote that he took a long lunch break with wine.  You know, to relax and recover after working so hard.  Whew.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:18 | 3263236 Teamtc321
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I would wager to say that the wizzard behind the telepromter wrote it, then emailed it, while the Socialist France was drinking fine wine and breaking cheese. 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:38 | 3263340 kaiserhoff
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Cutting the cheese?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:24 | 3263586 Teamtc321
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Can't cut it when Knifes are banned so breaking is required. No knifes to increase safety for all, so say's the 4' Socialist!!!

Sharding the cheese might be a good choice. Thought's?

 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:57 | 3263432 ElvisDog
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And that is the essence of socialism - it lets you live in a fantasy world .... 15 hour work weeks, full pensions at age 52, free healthcare and education for all ... for a little while. And then reality bites, but you can pretend to ignore reality ... for a little while.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:25 | 3263597 kaiserhoff
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Unless you are a fucktard bureaucrat... Then you can ignore reality for a little longer, but only a little longer.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:36 | 3263624 MillionDollarBoner_
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Hey, Flounder

Actually, after he approved the text, which was written by the deputy junior assistant vice president of his department, vetted by each of the individual departmental standing commitees for Culture, Finance, Labour Relations, Trade, Environment, Work and Pensions, Foreign Relations, Materials Sourcing, Green Economy and Administration; circulated in quadruplicate with a hard copy sent to the admin departments of every library, school, college, union, mayoral office...

...he took a long lunch break with wine. 

There...fixed it fer y'all ;o)

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 13:23 | 3263654 Flounder
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Actually that's not what really happened.  According to the French reality show "Hard Working French Ministers"  his secretary with the pouty lips wrote the letter afterwhich he signed it and gave her a solid rogering on his desk then they went to lunch for wine, cheese, foie gras and more fondling before he dropped her off at her flat that he pays for on his way to the pharmacy to buy viagra before heading to his villa to face his wife at 4pm.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:01 | 3263154 jeff314
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Dans le cul la France...  cheeze eating surrender monkey

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:02 | 3263157 JPM Hater001
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"by the incompetent services of the French government with redoubled zeal,"

Fixed.

 

They will now work twice as hard to be half as productive.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:07 | 3263158 P Rankmug
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Montebourg farted in Titan's general direction.  

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:09 | 3263190 Zap Powerz
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the whole article was written with a ridiculous accent.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:02 | 3263159 Dr. Engali
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Never forget the sascrifice of younf Ameircans on the beaches of Normandy?

 

Americans are still sacrificing so you can pay for your social programs.We need to pull all bases out of Europe and let them spend some of their own money on defense.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:04 | 3263171 trollin4sukrz
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Defense my ass..all the US knows is offense.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:22 | 3263253 Joe Davola
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Best defense...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:29 | 3263291 CPL
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...is not starting the problem in the first place or learning how to back pedal.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:35 | 3263332 Joe Davola
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Everybody underestimates...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WlT9mqHTWI

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:30 | 3263303 BurningFuld
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Defense against what??

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:24 | 3263260 exi1ed0ne
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Foreign bases serve 2 purposes:

1) Keep enough armed forces to be able to enforce the will, through threat and demonstration, of the ruling class.

2) Keep the armed forces, people with the real weapons, out of the country to prevent successful overthrow of said government.

Foreign bases are the tools of tyranny at home and abroad.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:29 | 3263293 TerminalDebt
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Keep the Legions out of Rome.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:50 | 3263398 exi1ed0ne
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Same as it ever was. 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:38 | 3263635 MillionDollarBoner_
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Do not allow the legions to cross the Rubicon...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:33 | 3263319 Oldrepublic
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thank you sir for your comment

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:02 | 3263160 Whoa Dammit
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"Can I remind you that Titan, the business you run is 20 times smaller than Michelin, ... and 35 times less profitable? "

LOL.  Told his ass.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:22 | 3263251 Overfed
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Ever look close at Michelin tires? "Made in Japan". LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:32 | 3263315 dbTX
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Mine Michelin's were made in Canada

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:38 | 3263342 Overfed
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Japan, Canada, and wherever else, but not France!

Fri, 02/22/2013 - 00:27 | 3266025 Orly
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Four stars for you!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:02 | 3263161 lolmao500
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BREAKING : 5 BLASTS IN INDIA, AT LEAST 15 DEAD AND 50+ INJURED.

Pakistan probably did it... India needs to man up and assassinate a bunch of their generals who support those terrorists. The US needs to cut everything to Pakistan and tell them to go fuck themselves already.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:52 | 3263414 toys for tits
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Titan still has China.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:15 | 3263542 BooMushroom
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Your comment is the #2 result for that headline :|
Here's a link to WSJ story(not paywalled):
http://m.wsj.com/articles/a/SB10001424127887323549204578317940686068204?...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:40 | 3263643 MillionDollarBoner_
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Sorree...no can do.

Pakistan has rare earth metals, one of the few concentrations outside China.

Gotta have those REMs for iStuff to work...;o)

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:03 | 3263164 Miss Expectations
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Let the tweeting of penis pictures proceed.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:03 | 3263166 kahunabear
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Nice little threat thrown in at the end.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:03 | 3263167 Haus-Targaryen
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I hope Taylor Responds,

 

Sir, I am going to flood the French market with highest quality tires possible at the absolute lowest possible price in France.  I will make it a personal goal of mine to increase my marketshare in France as much as possible, solely by undercutting your domestic production. 

 

Have fun spinning this.

 

Sincerely,

Grizz

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:12 | 3263203 AvoidingTaxation
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He would be the man.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:35 | 3263334 forwardho
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That Reply Sir. was a thing of beauty.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:24 | 3263583 falak pema
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only one problem with your superb plan :

The world's biggest tyre maker, ( and very profitable) is Michelin...

Titan is tiny in France. 

But go ahead and try. 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:42 | 3263648 MillionDollarBoner_
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Dude...that's what his comment on "dumping" was about.

He will accuse Titan of dumping and shut him out of the EU.

That's how the mob operates...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263168 Pretorian
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You need to  SHORT anything with "Made in France" socialist label.

 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:03 | 3263169 SilverMaples
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Print more tires!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263172 Catullus
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Inspired by "your" president. Spoken like a true collectivist.

By monitor with "double zeal" does that mean work 6 hours a day or just 4?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:11 | 3263201 tarsubil
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I'd say 30 minutes of actual work a day.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:18 | 3263240 HD
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Is Kevin Henry French? Wander in at 3:30 pm and hit "buy"...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263173 alfred b.
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     'French Fries USA'

 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263175 lemarche
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VERY WELL SAID FRANCE !!! I MUST SAY HERE, ZEROHEDGE I DISAGREE WITH YOUR IRONIC COMMENTS.. A VERY SENSIBLE, DECENT REPLY... ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO DUMPING BY LABOR COSTS...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:16 | 3263222 suteibu
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The guy is a full-blown socialist who just threatened a global trade war.  China, or any other low-wage nation in Asia, is not responsible for the problems of the West's failing welfare states. 

The irony and comedic quality of Tyler in this case is, if anything, understated.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:42 | 3263350 Cypher_73
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No, the irony is that corporate and banking powers in the United States have reduced the country to a joke. Entire swaths of the United States look just like China (working poor, pollution, little to no protection for workers) and heaven forbid a thought be spared for the fact that companies like Titan run by this douche are in China and India for their near slave labour. 

For all the bitching people do about socialism, the best places to live *are* socialist countries and as the French labour minister points out Titan might not choose to settle in France but there are plenty of other US companies that are in France and have been for a century. So things can't be *that* bad...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:48 | 3263384 suteibu
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By your logic, China can't be "that" bad either as these same companies, including French companies, are doing business there.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:18 | 3263566 helping_friendl...
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China is not "that" bad. I like it over there. The real estate is a little pricey, but as a society I like it. great culture and great food. Everyone that wants a job has one. can't beat the alley stir fry joint, the street noodle or the hot pot. The Chinese are not a bunch of crazen drunks and drug addicts like the USA. They don't make perpetual war of aggression on the rest of the world.

All the women have boodies of 18 year old girls. Yummy! I highly recommend the food and the pussy.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:46 | 3263659 MillionDollarBoner_
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Have to agree on the culture and the food.

The pussy not so much...on Chinese women, after 27 about 75% of their body mass heads below the waist.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:31 | 3263309 lemarche
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IS IT SOCIALISM THAT LET THE TOO BIG TO FAIL BANKS RUN LOOSE? "NO ! SIR !".....

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:36 | 3263336 suteibu
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In fact, it is the socialization of the losses of the banks and corruption by all parties.  That you would suggest that socialism is free of corruption at the highest level is absurd. 

Also, your all caps is as irritating as your defense of socialism.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:22 | 3263579 Central Bankster
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If this was a capitalist system, which it is not, then the losses would only fall on the private sector. The losses were in fact socialized, that is the definition of a bailout. 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:49 | 3263664 MillionDollarBoner_
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We didn't socialise the losses

We invested in undervalued assets and will make out like bandits when the economy comes roaring back in 2014... 

sarc/

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:17 | 3263560 Urban Redneck
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What is it with the French and their understanding of dumping (or lack thereof)?  For a nation of socialists who love government handouts one would think they would be intimately familiar with all the nuances of dumping...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263176 kaiten
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Yes, and while Europe and US are squabbling, like children, China is laughing.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:05 | 3263178 helping_friendl...
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He didn't surrender?

Wassup w/ that?

I thought he would have written back, claimed to be surrounded and then surrendered toot sweet.

Maybe Titan nshould send a German to negotiate?

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:38 | 3263343 suteibu
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He's obviously Vichy meaning he has already surrendered.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:08 | 3263179 fuu
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"I beg you to accept, Sir, the assurances of my highest."

Ouid

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:06 | 3263183 Sudden Debt
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perfect ignorance of what our country is...

 

FRANCE: THE LAND WHERE CARS DRIVE FASTER IN REVERSE THAN THEY GO FORWARD!! 

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:06 | 3263184 q99x2
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Ugh.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:08 | 3263186 Agent P
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Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:08 | 3263188 frenchie
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Jesus... what a shame...

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:09 | 3263189 spastic_colon
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So let's see.........translation..."I/We (French Gov't) will promise to threaten you with gov't policy and tariff, sanction, etc etc, if you do not comply blah blah blah"....but we are not socialists!.........a typical french dickhead response.  At least it will raise the productivity of gov't workers by .0001% to sick them on Titan.

 

PS - the subsidies and benefits given to the other companies mentioned will never be available to you!

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:17 | 3263233 wonderatitall
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...and dont forget we like to do as obama the sun king does and will drone yoo ass and play golf

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:11 | 3263198 Smuckers
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All of your tires are belong to us....pending quality inspection on the docks.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:11 | 3263202 lolmao500
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quality of social dialogue in France and the importance that the government attaches to which I belong.

You mean the constant riots and burning of cars by the immigrants?? That's some quality...

the French government admire the policy implemented by President Obama

Treason and bank bailouts? Yeah that worked out so well... NOT.

France will be a bankrupt country soon enough, just like Greece.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 11:45 | 3263367 Cypher_73
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Yeah because things are SO much better in the United States... (cough cough Sandy Hook). Buy more guns, they seem to help sort out the severely mentally challenged from the mildly mentally challenged.

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 12:20 | 3263578 BooMushroom
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Did you know that there's a difference between mass killers stopped by armed citizens versus ones stopped by police?

Average number of victims:
Stopped by citizen - 3
Stopped by police - 14

So you can consider a "gun free zone" sign to mean 'we'd rather have an extra eleven people die than allow people to exercise their natural right to self defense.'

Thu, 02/21/2013 - 13:10 | 3263686 lolmao500
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At least in the US with guns, the people will have a voice against the statist trash when the ponzi ends, in France, like most of Europe, they won't... they will starve to death and live like a fourth world nation, just like in Greece right now.

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