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Guest Post: 20 Signs The U.S. Economy Is Heading For Big Trouble In The Months Ahead

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Authored by Michael Snyder at The Economic Collapse blog,

Is the U.S. economy about to experience a major downturn?  Unfortunately, there are a whole bunch of signs that economic activity in the United States is really slowing down right now.  Freight volumes and freight expenditures are way down, consumer confidence has declined sharply, major retail chains all over America are closing hundreds of stores, and the "sequester" threatens to give the American people their first significant opportunity to experience what "austerity" tastes like.  Gas prices are going up rapidly, corporate insiders are dumping massive amounts of stock and there are high profile corporate bankruptcies in the news almost every single day now.  In many ways, what we are going through right now feels very similar to 2008 before the crash happened.  Back then the warning signs of economic trouble were very obvious, but our politicians and the mainstream media insisted that everything was just fine, and the stock market was very much detached from reality.  When the stock market did finally catch up with reality, it happened very, very rapidly.  Sadly, most people do not appear to have learned any lessons from the crisis of 2008.  Americans continue to rack up staggering amounts of debt, and Wall Street is more reckless than ever.  As a society, we seem to have concluded that 2008 was just a temporary malfunction rather than an indication that our entire system was fundamentally flawed.  In the end, we will pay a great price for our overconfidence and our recklessness.

So what will the rest of 2013 bring?

Hopefully the economy will remain stable for as long as possible, but right now things do not look particularly promising.

The following are 20 signs that the U.S. economy is heading for big trouble in the months ahead...

#1 Freight shipment volumes have hit their lowest level in two years, and freight expenditures have gone negative for the first time since the last recession.

#2 The average price of a gallon of gasoline has risen by more than 50 cents over the past two months.  This is making things tougher on our economy, because nearly every form of economic activity involves moving people or goods around.

#3 Reader's Digest, once one of the most popular magazines in the world, has filed for bankruptcy.

#4 Atlantic City's newest casino, Revel, has just filed for bankruptcy.  It had been hoped that Revel would help lead a turnaround for Atlantic City.

#5 A state-appointed review board has determined that there is "no satisfactory plan" to solve Detroit's financial emergency, and many believe that bankruptcy is imminent.  If Detroit does declare bankruptcy, it will be the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history.

#6 David Gallagher, the CEO of Town Sports International, recently said that his company is struggling right now because consumers simply do not have as much disposable income anymore...

"As we moved into January membership trends were tracking to expectations in the first half of the month, but fell off track and did not meet our expectations in the second half of the month. We believe the driver of this was the rapid decline in consumer sentiment that has been reported and is connected to the reduction in net pay consumers earn given the changes in tax rates that went into effect in January."

#7 According to the Conference Board, consumer confidence in the U.S. has hit its lowest level in more than a year.

#8 Sales of the Apple iPhone have been slower than projected, and as a result Chinese manufacturing giant FoxConn has instituted a hiring freeze.  The following is from a CNET report that was posted on Wednesday...

The Financial Times noted that it was the first time since a 2009 downturn that the company opted to halt hiring in all of its facilities across the country. The publication talked to multiple recruiters.

The actions taken by Foxconn fuel the concern over the perceived weakened demand for the iPhone 5 and slumping sentiment around Apple in general, with production activity a leading indicator of interest in the product.

#9 In 2012, global cell phone sales posted their first decline since the end of the last recession.

#10 We appear to be in the midst of a "retail apocalypse".  It is being projected that Sears, J.C. Penney, Best Buy and RadioShack will also close hundreds of stores by the end of 2013.

#11 An internal memo authored by a Wal-Mart executive that was recently leaked to the press said that February sales were a "total disaster" and that the beginning of February was the "worst start to a month I have seen in my ~7 years with the company."

#12 If Congress does not do anything and "sequestration" goes into effect on March 1st, the Pentagon says that approximately 800,000 civilian employees will be facing mandatory furloughs.

#13 Barack Obama is admitting that the "sequester" could have a crippling impact on the U.S. economy.  The following is from a recent CNBC article...

Obama cautioned that if the $85 billion in immediate cuts -- known as the sequester -- occur, the full range of government would feel the effects. Among those he listed: furloughed FBI agents, reductions in spending for communities to pay police and fire personnel and teachers, and decreased ability to respond to threats around the world.

He said the consequences would be felt across the economy.

"People will lose their jobs," he said. "The unemployment rate might tick up again."

#14 If the "sequester" is allowed to go into effect, the CBO is projecting that it will cause U.S. GDP growth to go down by at least 0.6 percent and that it will "reduce job growth by 750,000 jobs".

#15 According to a recent Gallup survey, 65 percent of all Americans believe that 2013 will be a year of "economic difficulty", and 50 percent of all Americans believe that the "best days" of America are now in the past.

#16 U.S. GDP actually contracted at an annual rate of 0.1 percent during the fourth quarter of 2012.  This was the first GDP contraction that the official numbers have shown in more than three years.

#17 For the entire year of 2012, U.S. GDP growth was only about 1.5 percent.  According to Art Cashin, every time GDP growth has fallen this low for an entire year, the U.S. economy has always ended up going into a recession.

#18 The global economy overall is really starting to slow down...

The world's richest countries saw their economies contract for the first time in almost four years during the final three months of 2012, the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development said.

The Paris-based thinktank said gross domestic product across its 34 member states fell by 0.2% – breaking a period of rising activity stretching back to a 2.3% slump in output in the first quarter of 2009.

All the major economies of the OECD – the US, Japan, Germany, France, Italy and the UK – have already reported falls in output at the end of 2012, with the thinktank noting that the steepest declines had been seen in the European Union, where GDP fell by 0.5%. Canada is the only member of the G7 currently on course to register an increase in national output.

#19 Corporate insiders are dumping enormous amounts of stock right now.  Do they know something that we don't?

#20 Even some of the biggest names on Wall Street are warning that we are heading for an economic collapse.  For example, Seth Klarman, one of the most respected investors on Wall Street, said in his year-end letter that the collapse of the U.S. financial system could happen at any time...

"Investing today may well be harder than it has been at any time in our three decades of existence," writes Seth Klarman in his year-end letter. The Fed's "relentless interventions and manipulations" have left few purchase targets for Baupost, he laments. "(The) underpinnings of our economy and financial system are so precarious that the un-abating risks of collapse dwarf all other factors."

So what do you think is going to happen to the U.S. economy in the months ahead?


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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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A Beautiful Deleveraging in reality = indebted, broke ass debt serfs buying what they need, not want, in increasingly smaller quantities, all over the world.

Welcome to The Bernank's "Virtuous Circle" monetary policy catching up to reality, where the lag is great & the closing of the gap will be tremendous.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Bingo.  Long sharcropping and all physical assets of real value.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Zap Powerz
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Um, Whatev.

Like, did you guys see Jackie Obama last night at the Oscars! Like O. M. G.!!!!!!

She is so cool and amazing! I loved her dress. She is like, a totally classy woman and stuff!




That is what the VAST majority of Americans are thinking about right now.  Not the debt Tsunami that will crush our economy and destroy their way of life.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:09 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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no debt tsunami...  :)

My favorite is the MSM (White House PR Machine) is running news stories non stop on how the sequester will result in the total shut down of all meat processing plants in the US, which will not only result in widespread terminations in the meat processing/packing plants, but will also remove chicken from the tables of America.

And...that lines at airports will be as much as 3 hours long with a 10% layoff of TSA agents.  (this one I don't get since at least 70% just stand around doing nothing anyway - a 10% reduction would only 60% of them stand around doing nothing)

If the meat processing story is true...and all USDA inspectors will be furloughed, then it's obviously political sabotage to beat the American people into submission and agreement to burn another trillion on the US Credit Card.

I'll turn into a vegetarian before I'd agree to another cent of borrowing. 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:35 | Link to Comment TuesdayBen
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MSM trying to scare sheeple into believing shrinking Gubmint just a tiny bit yields catastrophe

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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If the "sequester" is allowed to go into effect, the CBO is projecting that it will cause U.S. GDP growth to go down by at least 0.6 percent and that it will "reduce job growth by 750,000 jobs".


If that's the case then why did Congress vote for it?  Also, if cutting spending costs jobs then if we increase spending we'll have many more jobs.  Nothing but complete BS from the government.




Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:28 | Link to Comment kralizec
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#13 & #14 are bullshit, who the hell put that crap in there?

$85b less spent than the asshats want and its all doom and gloom?

Anybody dumb enough to believe these jackasses will ever seriously CUT anything raise your hand, someone will be there shortly to kick your ass!

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:19 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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Let them eat horse!

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:37 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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They are entirely justified in their assumption that none of the sheeple will stop and think "maybe the government shouldn't be involved in airport security and meat packing in the first place". The USDA's job is make sure government-approved toxins and poisons get on your table and in your body. Fuck 'em.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:43 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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@ Zap Powerz

Sadly, you are right.  I understand why ZH is so bearish tonight.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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That was Jackie Obama? I thought it was Shaq in a dress.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment Mr Pink
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I thought they were giving Chewbacca a lifetime achievement award

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:33 | Link to Comment Midas
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First Wookie

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:46 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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@ LawsofPhysics

+ 1

I know a guy in the rural SE who sharecrops out some of his land.  I agree with you, but you do need to have an enforcement mechanism (either the local .gov or be armed...) to make sharecropping stable should things get rough.

I completely agree with you re being long "assets of real value."

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment algol_dog
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Just a minute TIS - What about German business confidence?  Hmm?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:38 | Link to Comment blindfaith
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yes, and they will be very happy to hear on their bought and paid for trolls in the main street media the the government says that inflation is .....ZERO.  I want to move there, this ZERO inflation place....don't you?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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"#2 The average price of a gallon of gasoline has risen by more than 50 cents over the past two months.  This is making things tougher on our economy, because nearly every form of economic activity involves moving people or goods around."


Sorry, I view this as a positive as I would happily welcome sharecroppers and my farming co-op would do fine if we didn't have to move things as far.  Fuck it, I'll feed and work with my neighbors.  All you crowded new-age city folk can fuck off.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:36 | Link to Comment RebelDevil
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Cheap Energy is always the basis for excellent economic growth (as in the Industrial Revolution).

Expensive Energy = Trouble.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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In the case of the U.S.-Bubble-A., 'artificailly' cheap energy, due to the exorbitant privelage of reserve currency status, and world MIC, led not to excellent economic growth, but massively unsustainable economic growth and the explosion of criminality in the power elite.  Fuck cheap energy, I'll take moderately affordable energy and honest money. Fuck the unholy 'growth' mantra...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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best comment I've read in sometime...................

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Indeed, Shell Game and "dick cheneys ghost", very perceptive.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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My sister is in Korea...says gas there over $8 a gallon. We got it good here as the above post states. Articial, yes.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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The distances are less in South Korea, 6 hours takes you across the whole country any direction.  Their country is more geared to serious manufacturing, transport costs for their products (to port) are not as high as in larger countries.  In our case, almost nothing for bearings from the plant to Busan.

France, for example, is as large as TEXAS, transport costs (with a similar $8.00 or so for gasoline) will hurt them more than Korea.

Nice info re Korea, a country I am always interested in, thanks.  + 1

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 05:08 | Link to Comment dubbleoj
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Korea is gorging itself on full-priced samsung products and gucci belts, waistlines are expanding in tandem. Debt consumption is rising so fast that credit card spending is no longer allowed to be deducted from tax forms starting this year as it has been in the recent past. Dont wait up, we're catching up to you guys quick. 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:49 | Link to Comment OldE_Ant
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chuckle.  You forgot the increase in SSI taxes as well as gas prices.  I just saw $4gas again in my area.

But hey we can cover it with the gains in the market for the year.  Oh yeah that's gone as of today as well.

All with the USD going up, oil NG down.  Who'd have thunk.

Ah the benefits of a centrally planned economy.

I'm going long on Bens schlong because he must be getting real hard right now.

85B - fuck this double it bitches to 170 and toss an extra 85B to the US govt for a year of sequestration for a cool 245B - god damn we are going to have to order some extra ink and paper for the printers that's a lot of hundreds.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment markitect
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I filled up a zip car in Downtown Chicago Last week $4.40 gal.  Gas is paid for in the hourly zip car rate but they have to be losing their ass.  I dont see how $9 / hr covers it all.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:48 | Link to Comment cbaba
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Its all big Ponzi .

You don't see the scam here, most of the business is not profitable at all, the super cheap credit available from Fed and banking cartel with leverage ratio of 10  makes banks lend anybody investing very big, billion or more, these are not need to be profitable. The main scam here is to go and open the company to the public and sell shares at any arbitrary price, this is the moment they make money and they make their  biggest buck here, if you look at their balance sheets they have some profit but also they have lots of debt..

Wait few years for interest rates to rise, you will not believe what you see, the most famous companies will go bankrupt within months....


Tue, 02/26/2013 - 05:14 | Link to Comment Poor Grogman
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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:05 | Link to Comment 1100-TACTICAL-12
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The city and the burbs will definitely not be the place to be. A couple of turnips and a pork chop will give ya a go at some yuppie's fake boobed trophy wife.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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If that's the case, I'm going twice in exchange for a can of beef stew. I have cases stacked to the roof so I'm gonna have to stay in shape.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:44 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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Go long viagra

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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All those "cheap" zero-down houses built by the millions in the burbs don't look so cheap now. Sometime speople learn.


Sumtimes they don't.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment TeMpTeK
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The 200+ pnt correction test run is over... Onward!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment max2205
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Ben will see saw bonds and stocks till you beg to get off the ride.  He needs the ten year below 1.8% and will wack stocks but keep an uptrend till he exits

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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#21 - Bunga Bunga collateral damage

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment tawdzilla
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The epitome of the wealth effect 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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American spring bitchez! The plan was to get everyone amped out, buy guns, and then kill each other! Why round everyone up, when they can just all kill each other? I'm gonna mount a 50 Cal on my Rascal, and riot as long as the battery holds out. 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:09 | Link to Comment gaoptimize
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That is an expensive kill.  Beter keep moving near the trees.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment PeterSchump
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Try to buy any ammo lately? I can't get enough to shoot myself, never mind my fellow citizens. Keep trying. Something else is brewing.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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21) Jim Cramer is a douchebag

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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with apologies to douchebags worldwide

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment Iriestx
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Reader's Digest has gone bankrupt like 11 times in 5 years.  This is a sign that print is dead, not that the US economy is in the toilet.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment mr. mirbach
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Clissic Blue Hair Scare - Readers Digest is bankrupting! Better buy some Gold!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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#21... Cramer is wildly bullish!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment nobusiness
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Sequestration is not an issue.  The federal government will spend more next year and the rest of this year than it did last year not less.  Infact with sequestration the national debt will go up yes up 7 trillion over the next 10 years.


all it does is reduce the increase in spending.  to call it austerity is stupid.



Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Whatever, dude. Did you hear they're increasing chocolate rations?! Let's celebrate the good news with some Victory Gin.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:21 | Link to Comment eclectic syncretist
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Proles aren't allowed to drink gin, just shitty beer in dirty glasses.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:57 | Link to Comment HungryPorkChop
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I think the new model is Small Business can F'ng Die as long as I can continue to bail out the banks..  What is the definition of that type of economic system?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:02 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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The kind that ends with dead bankers.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Kprime
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I believe they call it France or French, yah one of the two or both.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment deerhunter
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Did I really hear that there are 1 million,,,, yes,  1 million  civilian Pentagon employees?  Is that even possible?  

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:26 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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sickening aint it?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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In this sense, I hope the sequestration happens.  Fire 'em all....most of 'em are probably hired to spy on us, anyways.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Fucking shut down that Utah Data Center. Fucking control freaks..

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:52 | Link to Comment EmmittFitzhume
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They won't fire the spys

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Then it's up to us to 'fire' them...

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:42 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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Exactly. The cops and soldiers are the very last ones to stop getting paid. And when they do, it's well and truly over.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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The government is not here for us.  We are here for the government.  We have millions employed for the support and defense of 1 POTUS, 1 VPOTUS, 100 Senators, 435 Congressmen and 9 Supreme Court Justices.  The rest of us are either members of support, or the peasants who are paying the taxes.  

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:51 | Link to Comment John Law Lives
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Let some overpaid bureaucrats take a pay cut.  I view that as a positive development.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment yogibear
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How many ghost payrollers? The Pentagon has so much waste.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 09:56 | Link to Comment esum
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after nam i got a brief stint at the national military command center in the pentagon. i had no desire for a mil career and what i saw was like a comedy show. melvin laird would come in with an immense entourage to WATCH THE WAR ON A BIG SCREEN in a conference room that would hold hundreds. I often thought why doesn't the useless fuck get on a plane and go see it up close and personal, the smells and the noise and the blood and the guts. the 1 stars licking the balls of the 2 stars smelling the ass of the 3 stars blowing the 4 star... visualize a general carrying a tray of coffee like a waiter to get brownie points.

wash dc is a sinkhole/cesspool that produces nada. you could remove 50% of it and not notice any change except in gtown and amongst the lobbyists and the masserati dealership (ferrari and bugatti also). just how can anyone expect that a community organizer, commie, disbarred lawyer, asst professor can have a clue? actually his goal was to wreck america and he is succeeding... are obamaphones in the cuts... are 40 million dollar vacations, designer dresses and ss for the kids and valerie.... how about golf with tiger...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:40 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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... 1 million  civilian Pentagon employees?

Have you seen the size of that building?  It takes a lot of folks mopping hallways, dusting stuff, washing windows, and changing toilet paper rolls.


Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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#21 US corporate profit growth for the last four quarters has fallen to below 7 % and shows no sign of turning around and accelerating.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment espirit
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US corporations quit investing in Amerika a long time ago.

So why should the Proles?

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment peter4805
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It's not all bad news. Americans everywhere will be breathing a sigh of relief when they hear the drone fleet keeping the country safe from terrorist threats will not be subjected to cutbacks. In fact the citizenry will be delighted to learn the size of the fleet will be substantially increased!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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The Fed is already insolvent:


The Fed owns $2.844 billion of long-term debt securities.  It also has $253 billion of other assets for which is does not disclose a detailed breakdown, but there is probably not much liquidity to them.  But let's focus just on the securities.


The price of these securities have declined about 2.5% since their high prices and low yields were reached in June.  But let's use a smaller percent price drop because the Fed has been purchasing long-term debt for a while, meaning that some of their paper has higher yields.  This is also a conservative approach to take. 


So instead of a 2.5% decline, let's assume the average price of the long-term paper owned by the Fed has declined by just 2% since June.  Because of the intense leverage that the Federal Reserve employs, this means the mark-down on its $2.844 trillion of securities is, in reality, a staggering $57 billion loss, which is actually greater than the Federal Reserve's $55 billion equity.  Because the loss on the Federal Reserve’s securities is already greater than its equity, this means that the Fed is already technically insolvent.


Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Iriestx
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You can't be insolvent as long as you have ink for the printers.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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The FedRes is indeed bankrupt.But whilst it can create money from thin air

to pay its debts as they fall due,it is not insolvent.

A distinction with a big difference,in the current circumstances.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:03 | Link to Comment hamstercheese
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It is not insolvent so long as the human race ubiquitously accepts its funny money as currency.  It, and use your imagination to think of who else, will become bankrupt when that currency is no longer wanted as a medium of exchange, a store of value or a unit of accounting.  Any one of those public trusts fails, bye bye Fed.  But those who run this monster know this, and they'll have another currency waiting in the wings to take it's place.  US Dollar B.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Their pobably laughing about countries still accepting the US dollar.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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#21 How do the Yankees plan on selling any of those $1000 club box seats. That Place is going to be scary.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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I'd rather wander over to the park and watch a Little League game.  You can bunt, steal, hit and run...

The players are smarter, and now and then, they pay attention to the coaches.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:35 | Link to Comment caimen garou
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don't worry ben will make it look like those seats were bought and put cardboard cut outs sitting in them, sheep wont know the difference!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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Corporate $$$$ - you don't think actiual people are buying them, so you?     Even if individuals could buy them they don't - better to have work buy it so you can write off the cost.

The New Nomeklatura live in their own bubble/

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment mikmid
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When currency, stock markets, interest rates, bonds, economic indicators, commodities and the truth are so managed (manipulated) by our government and wall street for the benefit of themselves I think it is a given that a crash is coming. We just do not know when.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:41 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Just like in the pre-1989 DDR (Deutsche Demokratische Republik), i.e. former East Germany. They cooked the books, and controlled all banking and media. 

/Dissent from party line ended your career as fast as an anti-____ comment in the US today.  Otherwise the two (countries) were nothing alike.  /sarc

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Barack Obama, who he be? 

Oh, that's the Dude who has been AWOL on the economy for four years now.  Wut he know?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment Bad Attitude
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Hope and Change!

(Repeat until you believe.)

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:46 | Link to Comment BigDuke6
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A ZH conference in Vegas is the answer!

And totally tax deductable i'm sure.

People could walk around with name badges - with live fights, talks on gold and gun stalls for the preppers.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:46 | Link to Comment Mr Pink
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Yeah.....let's get all of us ZH'ers in one place....I'd rather fill my swimtrunks with chum and float around on an intertube off of Seal Island...that way I have a chance to survive the weekend

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment caimen garou
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yes we can! sure

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:46 | Link to Comment logicalman
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Yes we IN the can.

Fixed it

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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# 22) Personal Yearly and Weekly Incomes for 80% of us, suck balls (how does this guy NOT mention this?).

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Tango in the Blight
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Uncle Ben will just print moar $$$. This can go on for a long time.

Move along, nothing to see..


Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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Physical fuel shortages within 2 years, people cannot afford the 'New High-Priced' fracked nonsense that spammers and Ponzi-promoters are endlessly masturbating about.


These shortages will be permanent, by the way.


Right now there is a rolling 'mini-shortage' that appears currently as high prices in California and the Northeast. As the shortage rolls around the country, prices in different areas will rise dramatically and fall just as dramatically ... then fade out only to rise and fall elsewhere.



Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:42 | Link to Comment espirit
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I'll take mine as a "cocktail".

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:46 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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Nah we got that fleet of 300,000,000 fully electric cars lying around here somewhere... we just misplaced it, I'm sure it'll turn up and then won't you feel silly!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:36 | Link to Comment booboo
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22. Wedding magazine is touting flour sack dresses as the new rage.

23. Women are signing up in droves at the Y.M.C.A. for Darning classes.

24. Warran Buffet was seen on a railroad hand cart pumping his way back to D.C. from Omaha.


Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:36 | Link to Comment OldE_Ant
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I love the smell of austerity in the morning.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:41 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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Quitting job, cashing out 401K, buying PMs, planting garden, stocking up on lead, popping popcorn, setting up chair on balcony, lighting cigar, watching smoke rise from the ghetto, getting into bed, watching bankers on tv fall out of windows of tall buildings, sleeping like baby.


Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment moonstears
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"stocking up on lead," better get on that one soon, meat, 'cause "lead" is tough to find!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:31 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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How true.  I should've said "feebly continuing to try and stock up on lead".  

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:13 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, maybe in a convenient form-factor and bundling.  But if you have the time and handy skills and right gear, you can still get it.  "Buy the pound" (deliberate play on words), and do a DIY on the rest -- Mr. 'Smith'.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Fredo Corleone
Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:05 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Half the people in Detroit don't even pay property taxes anymore. Plenty of banksters in NYC to use to perform gravity test with.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:31 | Link to Comment WmMcK
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+1 - Congrats! Big steps in the right direction.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment PeeramidIdeologies
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Here comes your biflation folks...
I was in a large sporting goods store pricng a new rig for the winter. Noticing some half bare shelves, I inquired about discounts. The floor clerk starting knocking off double digit % right away. Sensing a little blood in the water I starting checking out some of the high end stuff, the more I asked the cheaper things got. The guy was not letting me out of the store. I almost felt bad about the price we ended up with.... But I guess thems the breaks...

Bye bye retail sales....

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:48 | Link to Comment RobertC
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...don't worry; the store still made a profit...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment PeeramidIdeologies
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I'm not against them making a profit, but the increased bargaining power is a real plus. I would even challenge people to try it out for themselves.You might be surprised at the willingness to barter out there. Unfortunately Internet shopping is removing this tool from the consumer...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Oldrepublic
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Bargain like I used to do in the Middle East, offer half the price, and start walking out the door!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:25 | Link to Comment PeeramidIdeologies
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Ah yes, True price discovery! Real economics at play!... Could the natural laws of commerce be showing through?
Na that's too much to hope for...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment DeadFinks
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Must. not. have. 2 consecutive quarterly negative GDP prints. The 0 administration will lie, beg, lie,steal and lie to avoid this.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment miker
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We have a mickey mouse economy.  Maybe it's a chicken shit economy; not sure.  At any rate, there is all manner of worthless, near worthless endeavors.  Ironically, some pay huge amounts of money to said workers. 

The stuff that is important is way underpaid; teaching....I mean really teaching.  Cops on the street.  Want that job?

Meanwhile educatd douchebags rake in millions because they can, have no sense of morality and the system is rigged.

As I've said before, it is all not going to end well.  Rich and poor alike will pay the price.  Unless you're rich enough to fly the coop!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:04 | Link to Comment TraderTimm
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An "orderly" peso devaluation was advocated by the Mexico's new finance minister during the summer of 1994, but ex-President Salinas reportedly wanted to be one of the few recent Mexican presidents to leave office without a massive devaluation. When the government that took office on December 1, announced its economic plans, local and foreign investors saw that the $30 billion trade deficit would not be reduced in 1995. With the Mexican Central Bank running out of reserves to support the peso, they bet that Mexico would have to de-value its currency, which it did.

Just take the above and replace "Mexico" with "United States" and "peso" with "dollar". I'm sure the speech telling us that this is totally normal and will solve all our problems will be masterfully written. If they go the extra mile they'll say that there is no devaluation taking place - while doing it the next day.


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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment stiler
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hey, chicken shit is THE best manure in THE world.  ;-)

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment blue
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Victory Garden, other than that I have no idea...ciao

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:27 | Link to Comment Meat Hammer
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I'm looking forward to plummeting home values in the DC/Northern Virginia area.  

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:30 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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"Barack Obama is *admitting* that the "sequester" could have a crippling impact on the U.S. economy."


Are you shitting me? He isn't admitting anything. He is scaring old ladies and mental incompetents into voting for him for a third term.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Ropingdown
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Agree, and I'm disgusted.  All Obama has to do is proprose reprogramming budgets within departments and the cuts will be useful rather than random.  Congress would agree, I assume.  I'm so sick of the absolute BS I could scream.  Oh, what the hell, I'll post this and then scream.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:16 | Link to Comment PeterSchump
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He doesn't need old ladies or mental incompetents. He has everyone else.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment PeterSchump
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He doesn't need old ladies or mental incompetents. He has everyone else.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:22 | Link to Comment PeterSchump
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He doesn't need old ladies or mental incompetents. He has everyone else.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:24 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Is he pulling a Kerry?  He was for it before he was against it?  My grandma may have been right:  "Politics is the whore of the world.

With all due respect, Grandma, I beg to differ:  My apologies to whores for their lack of hypocrisy in providing the same Quid Pro Quo service as politicians.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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Empty malls and surely not a good sign.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:54 | Link to Comment PeeramidIdeologies
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Skeletons everywhere. I'm surprised you don't hear more about commercial real estate, it has to be in ugly shape these days.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:55 | Link to Comment Northern Lights
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I'm seeing a lot of dead malls these days.  Some where there's only 40% tenancy and the main tenants are usually the big box kinds.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Tombstone
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20 reasons why socialism works every time.  Benny's gonna have to really step on the gas.  Sell stocks, buy gold/silver.  What might really happen is the markets continue to ignore reality and move much, much higher, sucking in every last fake dollar before going BOOM.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment kito
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some valid points, some ridiculous.....the big box stores are closing because of INTERNET SALES.............readers digest has also succumbed to the internet.....mostly an older readership that hasnt taken to reading online..................

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:19 | Link to Comment TNTARG
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I knew it wouldn't take long before we started eating ourselves. How much now until we wake up with Human Spongiform Ence-phalopathy, HSE? Some notorious men are showing symptoms.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:54 | Link to Comment Getting Old Sucks
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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:02 | Link to Comment wisehiney
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No problem. I'll just move on up to New York and get me some of them "Pet Food Stamps".

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:09 | Link to Comment HurricaneSeason
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I see the sequester as accomplishing very little, which means increasing the debt ceiling another $2 trillion and increasing the annual debt interest by 13% or $39 Billion along with $60 billion for Hurricane Sandy and the sequester accomplished nothing. Collecting full social security taxes and a little more tax revenue on the rich guys and we're still over $1 trillion a year in the red.  The Bernank is going to choke. He can't keep writing bad checks (not printing), if he expects to get paid back in full for the money he loaned, that he never had. That's the limiting factor. Can he $10 Trillion more or $3 Trillion more? There's no limit other than his guts at the poker table and he will choke. Interest rates through the roof and endgame of using resources very carefully.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:15 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Just a thought. Close down the parasitic banks and imprison their CEOs. Arrest Bernanke and abolish the FED. Get those fucking monkeys off our backs and lets get back to prosperity.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Piranhanoia
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#1 on the to do list and +1 for truth, justice and the real American way.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment q99x2
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I'm listening to last nights Coast to Coast am, an interview with Ray Kurzwell. There's a dude in la la land. He thinks intelligence is the most important gidget. What good is intelligence without morality.

I don't like Ray Kurzwell very much but appreciate his accomplishments.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:22 | Link to Comment venturen
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Bonuses are up at Goldman so that Fed thing is working!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Piranhanoia
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Big 20?  Wow am I scared now.  All 20 are tiny little pieces of shit that barely make up a turd.  #20 tells you who the author works for.  I smell #2 and it ain't gasoline.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:33 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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So I am sitting over here thinking everyone knows this has all gone on for too long, the writing is on the wall.

I mean there is more debt than so called money on this planet. Where do you think it goes from here? It's laughable at this point.


I am long... gardens, stacking, bullets, communities, friends, brewing beer, and the rest of the world collectivly waking the fuck up

to the perpetuated fraud they have been forced to participate in by no fault of their own did they know they were buying a shit sandwich.

3  2  1  wait for it...

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:13 | Link to Comment TNTARG
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There is more debt than collateral. A lot more.

Anyway I like your thinking over...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:36 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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The U.S. economy will be no different in the coming months than it has been the previous months which bodes ill for all but the fascist 1%.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:02 | Link to Comment hairball48
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All this whining over $85billion? That's less than 10% of the projected deficit for this year. What will the sheeples do when the serious cutting comes? But oh...that's right, we can't "cut" anything can we? So the Treasury will just keep on spending and Bernanke will monetize it....and this will go on can't.

I sure hope it's soon though.


Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:08 | Link to Comment MedicalQuack
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Government needs technologists and current SEC nomination won't be able to keep up.  I made a post over at the Daily Kos about this.  Stupid people are sinking this country. I'm worried too and from a data standpoint watching mergers and acquistions it's not pretty as with data they gain a ton of control.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment El Hosel
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Stupid people are sinking this country? LOL ...  We are sunk if all it takes is stupid people.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:46 | Link to Comment NidStyles
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Government is the problem. Dailykos is garbage.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:49 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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CIA-affiliated garbage.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:36 | Link to Comment Rockfish
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$85 billion is a rather tiny but isn't that last straw that breakes the camels back.  

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:38 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
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The U.S. gov defaulted on it's national debt in 1971 and has steadily increased its deficit spending.

This is getting long in the tooth and needs to be extracted.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:38 | Link to Comment Cable Guy
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The USA is so fragile.  Just a couple of down days in the stock markets and the sky is falling again.  Watch how quickly they fix that.  Uncle Sam will be buying equities big time tomorrow.  The powers that be know the formula.  Don't mess with pensions and you win the elections.  Don't bankrupt the 401k's and you'll contain civil unrest.....

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:46 | Link to Comment Mr. Hudson
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: "So what do you think is going to happen to the U.S. economy in the months ahead?"

The rich will get richer, and the poor will get poorer. The dumb will get dumber, and the horny will get hornier. Oh, and food prices will continue to rise.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment RockyRacoon
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Allow me to enlighten you…

Why, all of a sudden yesterday, was everyone in both traditional and social media running around like the market had just crashed?

Allow me to enlighten you...

1. Nobody is trading stocks anymore, all of the most aggressive and vocal traders are doing options. This is how a slip of 1.5% on the S&P can feel and sound like there's some sort of major move afoot. These people you're listening subjected to are 10X leveraged currencies, triple long ETFs or they trade out of the money front month calls, LEAPs whatever. If you were slingin' around 50 grand in play money all day, you'd be doing the same thing, it's fine.

2. Cassandras get the most attention - pretty much the only thing they want anyway. There's very little attention paid to everyone else who is simply going about their business or who remembers the fact that stocks are supposed to go down once in awhile.

3. Guys talking about being all-in or all-out can and will change their opinions quickly. This is what they should be doing as professional, full-time speculators. But are you a full-time speculator? If someone can and frequently does go from fully invested to all cash to fully invested over the course of a few days, is there any particular reason that you should be paying attention to them? Will they personally be calling you to give you the second half of their trade? Well, most of you don't realize this so when someone says "ALL IN" or "ALL OUT", it gets you talking, thinking, retweeting, sharing etc.

4. There is not much real news so in its absence our imaginations are running wild.  We do this as a species, its okay. Gotta have something to talk about, right? A down day for stocks quickly becomes a crash these days given the state of our modern communications capabilities.

5. Some people selling services need you to believe that it is in your best interest to manically hop from foot to foot - and they are everywhere these days. If you're engaged in this kind of thing, I'll just assume that it's your profession or your hobby. That's cool, I have unprofitable, expensive hobbies too - golf, trying new restaurants, auto-erotic asphyxiation, etc.

Anyway, this is why people are acting the way they are. Do what the real wealthy people do - put it into context, be aware of it, and focus on the bigger picture of how you're going to accumulate more wealth and businesses and friends and art and experiences. Not on how you're going to avoid a 7% temporary drawdown in a stock portfolio.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:05 | Link to Comment thewayitis
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You have to be kidding me. This article is a joke right? Buy Gold my friend and forget about the stocks.....A slow death

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:18 | Link to Comment reader2010
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"Centuries ago, sailors on long voyages used to leave a pair of pigs on every deserted island. Or they'd leave a pair of goats. Either way, on any future visit, the island would be a source of meat. These islands, they were pristine. These were home to breeds of birds with no natural predators. Breeds of birds that lived nowhere else on earth. The plants there, without enemies they evolved without thorns or poisons. Without predators and enemies, these islands, they were paradise. The sailors, the next time they visited these islands, the only things still there would be herds of goats or pigs. .... Does this remind you of anything? Maybe the ol' Adam and Eve story? .... You ever wonder when God's coming back with a lot of barbecue sauce?"

- Chuck Palahniuk

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 09:50 | Link to Comment d edwards
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Soon, I beieve.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:20 | Link to Comment PeterSchump
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The adware analytics are totally off tonight too.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment ironmace
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Holy shit, not Readers Digest??!!

It's the Seventh Sign, we are truly fucked.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:04 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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Don't forget sign #21 .... Obama is still in office blaming Bush.

Sign #22 .... Obama care is activating.

Sign #23 .... The public vocabulary is becoming aware of quadrillion as a word.

sign #24 .... Gun stores are more profitable than walmart.

sign #25 .... A perfectly good war in Seria is going to waste without us stepping in.

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