Meet The Biggest Winner From Today's Italian Elections

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It may come as a surprise to some, but the largest single party in the Italian Chamber as a result of today's elections, when stripping away all alliance partners, is none other than Beppe Grillo's Movimento 5 Stelle. With 25.53% of the votes (96.44% of the vote counted), the comedian/blogger/counterestablishmentarian/contrarian received more votes than either Bersani's Democratic Party which got 25.51%, and Berlusconi's Popolo Della Liberta, which got 21.44%. Congratulations to both him, and to the Italian people who made the most symbolic vote of all: that they are done with a broken statist status quo, and that despite engrained beliefs to the contrary, there is a third alternative to the fake Party A-Party B paradigm.

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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:39 | 3275524 Tim Knight from...
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Ah, yes - just as I read about on Slope of Hope last night, thanks to our own BDI........

 

http://slopeofhope.com/2013/02/beppe-grillo-and-the-5-stars-movement-a-lesson-to-occupy-wall-street-c.html

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:43 | 3275531 sunaJ
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God bless him.  With a clear "victory" for Berlusconi as well, we can now have a very solid clown coalition. 

 

[clearing throat]

 

[queue music]

 

Send in the clowns...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:54 | 3275571 francis_sawyer
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It's 'Striscia la Notizia' all day long for the Azzurri these days...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:11 | 3275620 kaiserhoff
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In my favorite book, The Territorial Imperative, Ardrey explains Italy, sort of.  He says it's a rare place that has never really functioned as a natiion, or even as city states.  The fundamental unit of organization is the Noyeau, or Neighborhood.  An Italian never really trusts anyone he doesn't see and interact with on an almost daily basis. 

Explains the Capulets and Montegues and all sorts of cheerful disorder.   Hell, it might even be right.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:21 | 3275664 SafelyGraze
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re-vote!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:34 | 3275712 Zer0head
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Tim I think ZH charges for ads

PPC

but in your case PPV

 

but if you want to share honeymoon fotos of you and BDI - that could be a money maker

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:39 | 3276747 All Risk No Reward
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Here is one perspective on Grillo's movement...

Beppe Grillo Wants To Give Italy Democracy

http://theautomaticearth.com/Finance/beppe-grillo-wants-to-give-italy-de...

One point - use the right words.

Mob rule sucks.  That is "democracy" - stinkin' mob rule.  I get the gang bankster psy-opp is tough and all, but think through it.  They don't want the mind thinking "Republic - soome laws are off limits regardless of votes," so they program us with democracy.

Socrates thought a lot...  about words.

We should do the same thing.

Grillo should be trying to set up a democratic republic.

Say what you mean, mean what you say.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:24 | 3275681 Freddie
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Italy is light years better than Obumber Amerika with TV and Hollywood shilling 24x7 to stupid sheep.  CIA's Operation Mockingbird with Obummer as Lincoln for another civil war if the sheep get out of line and CIA and Affleck save the day plus CIA SEALS killing Osama and dumping him in the ocean.   Nothing about the same SEAL Team 6 getting set up on Chinooks to be murdered.

The Italians have survived way over 2,000 + years in various forms.  At least somone in Italy is trying to change something. 

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:27 | 3275694 walküre
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An Italian never really trusts anyone he doesn't see and interact with on an almost daily basis.

I'm not Italian and I don't trust anyone I don't see or interact with on a daily basis. Aside from family and old friends which moved away over time. My cards are always very close to my chest and government regardless of which level it operates on, is never to be trusted unless your family or closest friends are the government.

Anyone who is stupid enough to trust people outside of that spectrum will eat with their executioners.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:52 | 3275574 tip e. canoe
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what's really interesting about Grillo is not so much that he's a leader, but that he's the leader of the movement and not a candidate for PM.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:17 | 3275641 disabledvet
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I agree. And lest we forget "Zero Hedge is a BIG winner" as well. Been listening to National Psycho Radio all day...nary a peep about an election, how it's had a major impact on world markets, what the future holds for the Italian State, etc...etc. "we go where we go together" and if that's the message coming from Rome then indeed though there may be much pain and suffering ahead they will be the stronger for it. And here's hoping some of us here can start piggy backing off our Fame at understanding such simple things and start "shaking that money maker."

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 06:46 | 3276889 TheMadNumismatist
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In the UK Grillo is sneered at as being some kind of joke candidate. But in these two videos, subtitled, Grillo lays into banks, politicians, IMF the whole shebang.

And this was 21 years ago: Long before it was fashionable.

http://www.scoinsandbullion.com/blog/501-who-is-beppe-grillo-next-italia...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:30 | 3276273 Buck Johnson
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And that was funny, truly funny.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:41 | 3275529 FinLen
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Tyler,

I am skeptical that the squid will allow bunga and grillo to run away with Italy and mess with the Euro.......unless the investment banks are already 100% short the market.  In which case, never mind.....

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:53 | 3275577 Groundhog Day
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Everyone has a price, it is only a matter of time before GS gets to the winner.  Fuckin Squid

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:15 | 3275638 seek
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Not true. Though rare, there are people of integrity in every country that can't be bought.

Of course, in the rare case of when the system fails TPTB and a person of integrity does make it into power, bullets usually await their arrival.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:30 | 3275711 walküre
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those leaders either die of unnatural causes or their nation gets involved in wars under dubious circustances and not by their own chosing

that debt needs to be paid no matter what.

the parasites want to live and grow fatter

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:42 | 3275536 Sweet Chicken
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LMFAO that is one of the best pictures ever used on this site! UP YOURS BUNGA!!! 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:48 | 3275558 buzzsaw99
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Up yours is exactly what that means.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:54 | 3275578 McMolotov
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Congratulations to Italian George Lucas With An Afro.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:38 | 3275742 buckethead
Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:29 | 3275885 Kirk2NCC1701
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Forza!  It's this guy, or time for Benzino Gasollini.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:43 | 3275539 DoChenRollingBearing
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Italy will now be in the headlines a long, long time.  Many thanks, Tyler for featuring this important news.  Bunga bunga!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:49 | 3275561 JonNadler
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providing unending first rate comedy. After all comedy is on theing Italians do well. Forza Italia!!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:01 | 3275604 JR
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A good lesson for Americans is that when the characters and the issues are clear the people will vote their true interests. That did not happen last November in the United States where political corruption pushed out Ron Paul and created a contest with no choices; how could the people possibly vote their best interests between Obama’s welfare and Romney’s warfare?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:39 | 3275744 Fred Hayek
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Hey, hey!
Don't sell Romney's welfare short, nor Obama's warfare.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:45 | 3275543 Downtoolong
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Topless women protesters; comedians and crooks running for office; I can hardly believe I’m getting to see this show for free without even having to buy a ticket.

Short Universal Studios, Broadway, Disney, and Barnum and Bailey now!

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:56 | 3275582 Bam_Man
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In Italy, this is known as "Opera Buffa". They don't take life as seriously as they do in many other cultures. Great food, beautiful women, fast cars and fantastic wine will tend to make you think that way.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:08 | 3275616 Doubleguns
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Broke, how seriously do they take that.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:19 | 3275653 css1971
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They have the fast cars, beautiful women, great food and you hold their debt. How do you think they take it?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:22 | 3275666 kaiserhoff
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That can Bogart your knish.  OK, that was my one Hollywood Jew joke in honor of the Oscars.

I feel better now.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:14 | 3276771 Joe A
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And a €2 trillion government debt (120% of GDP) to complement that.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 21:00 | 3276011 rhinoblitzing
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You paid for it... and will continue to pay more!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:45 | 3275545 Youri Carma
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Listen to Webster Tarpley http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/ to get some useful insides http://tarpley.net/audio/WCR-20130223.mp3

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:46 | 3275547 fonzannoon
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I have never heard this guy speak but he sure as hell seems inspiring.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:06 | 3276768 Idiocracy
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He is inspiring.  I would compare him to Steven Colbert but much angrier and without the nightly talk show.  He's sharp as a whip and with real understanding of finance.  He blew the whistle on Parmalat's balance sheet years before the Milan financial media (Il Sole 24 Ore, et. al.) said jack.  He also called bullshit on the sistematic plunder of Telecom Italia by a clique of insider cronies when everybody else in Italy played see no, hear no evil.  

I've been living in Italy for 17 years (as an American) and can attest that he represents the first real possibility (perhaps since WW2) for political improvement in this moribound nation.  His agenda seems to be one item: destroy the entrenched Casta (caste) of political kleptocrats that have turned the Italian treasury into their private slush fund.  If he accomplished that and nothing else from a policy perspective he will deserve to be on Italy's version of a Mount Rushmore.

 


Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:45 | 3276798 j3w3l7
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Maybe he is inspiring, but how can you say that he can represent the first political improvement? Do you know that his movement fully endorse the Modern Monetary Theory instead of free market? Every ecnomic politics after the WW2 in Italy has been keynesian and this is the result. Italy with its 120% (and possibly higher) debt to GDP ratio should be one of the most prosperous and riche country in the world, in terms of MMT and what Mr. Krugman preaches.

So, they can be certainly interesting because they are naive as opposed to the old politicians, and surely they are young and fresh. But they have won because they believe in the holy grail of domestic printing money instead of cutting public spending and lowering taxes.

 

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 05:39 | 3276864 StandardDeviant
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I do understand the protest vote.  But, "...real understanding of finance"?!

From Bloomberg: "he wants free Internet for all, free tablets for children, and a 20-hour work week".  Folks around here make fun of Obama-nomics by talking about free iPads for all -- but this guy actually means it!

(Unless I'm thinking of the wrong kind of "tablets"?)

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 07:49 | 3276935 Idiocracy
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J3 and SD,

Like you, I think Neo-Keynesian monetary policy based on endless debt-money printing is bullshit, and I do fear that Grillo does not understand that.  

However, Grillo does understand that Italy's number one problem is substituting KLEPTOCRACY and GERONTOCRACY with DEMOCRACY.  Everything else (iPad's for all, 20 hour work week, Neo-Keynesian vs. Austrian economics) is meaningless until that first issue is resolved.  Government is like the mind of a nation and, as the saying goes "free your mind and your ass will follow"


Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:30 | 3277001 Rari Nantes In ...
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I have been living in the US (as an Italian) for 18 years and I could not have found better words to describe him. Well done!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:46 | 3275550 NoWayJose
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Given the inability of either the Democrats or Republicans to actually govern the United States, I see a very real chance for a third party candidate to be elected in the US at some point in the future.  In fact, I don't see much hope for the US until there is a big shake out somewhere in the election process.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:57 | 3275589 Shell Game
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3rd party?  Not until SNAP cards fail to load, and not 1 minute before then.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 19:00 | 3275600 eatthebanksters
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That could happen...and not by chance...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:36 | 3275922 Kirk2NCC1701
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Vote for Benzino.  Bezino Gasollini.  Then you'll get "Change you can believe in."  ;-)

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:47 | 3275554 bjfish
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Excellent.  Its like voting for FUCK YOU.  Was that his platform??

Now about this "fake Party A - Party B paradigm" ....  Perhaps a fellow Zh'er can explain why TPTB expend so much effort (every breath from their legion of 'newspeople') to convince us that party R is bad, and party D is saving the day. There is no pendulum swinging from side to side - it is nearly all one-sided, and has been as long as I've been awake.

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:52 | 3275573 buzzsaw99
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Italians know they are going to get screwed no matter who wins the election so they like to have fun with it. Comedians, midget tranny porn stars, they don't care.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:42 | 3275939 Kirk2NCC1701
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I sorta agree with ya Buzz, but have a different tack:  They care only enough to know that this guy can do the least damage, compared to the other, 'serious' clowns.  That's why you can never have a multi-party or direct elections in the US - - you could no longer easily rig the system By The Few, For The Few.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 20:58 | 3275993 rhinoblitzing
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Explanation of why the effort of a fake Party A or B election:

Simple: The $2 Billion Dollars in campaign money is spent primarily on.... The Media !

The Media - which is already plugging the 2014 and 2016 election - It;s the biggest source of guaranteed revenue on a consistent basis by sector. They are all bought and paid for. (In addition, it helps to pay for food and transportation for the sheeple that get bussed from city to city to vote in difficult precincts)

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:48 | 3275557 thisandthat
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If you notice his was THE most voted party - others only beat him in coalition.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 18:57 | 3275591 tip e. canoe
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not only that but no broad coalition can form post hoc (e.g. Bersani/Monti) without 5 Star's blessing, as a coalition needs 42.5% to win.

 

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