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The Men Who Built America: Remembering The Gilded Age Part 3

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Following Part 1's emergence from the civil war and the age of enlightenment; and Part 2's undertaking of the largest building phase in the country's history. Part 3 of the 4-part History Channel series takes us from the beginning of steel and oil having forever changed the face of America, to JP Morgan arriving on the scene and expedites growth through a magical thing called finance.  From the Civil War to the Great Depression and World War I, for better or worse; for richer or poorer, in ethical and societal sickness or health; these five men - John D. Rockefeller, Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford and J.P. Morgan - led the way.

 

 

 

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Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:45 | 3276328 MrX
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this is pretty much the same story: http://vimeo.com/43832369

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:51 | 3276347 Paul Bogdanich
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Not this drivel again. 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:13 | 3276423 The They
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you have to be stoned

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:17 | 3276435 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Where are the UFOs? I thought this was History Channel.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:13 | 3276562 Race Car Driver
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 The solar system is in an aggitated state of flux, earth is ringing like a bell and spurting volcanoes like pimples on a 14 year old and the poles are shifting. There are real threats to global food and water supplies, man-made and natural. Fukushima is still belching out radiation, as is Chernobyl, the Hanford site in Washington state is leaking and Bayou Corne is looking like a dark horse. Americans have lost all privacy, the DHS is buying guns and ammo at an alarming rate, the d0llar is beoming worth less more each day, .gov is beyond broke and not least, a 900 year old prophecy is in the midst of coming to fruition, Rome is prophesized to be destroyedd and Jesus is coming back with a flame-thower....

 

... and Zero Hedge links to TeeVeeLand History Channel propaganda shit?

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:55 | 3276760 Joe A
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The city of seven hills that is going to be destroyed can be any of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_claimed_to_be_built_on_seve...

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 06:21 | 3276872 francis_sawyer
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Both Teheran & Jerusalem are on that list [but I like underdogs ~ so I'm taking the long odds on 'Yonkers']

~~~

Anyway ~ In Age of Empires, it requires 80 GOLD to build a flame throwing Helepolis... Not sure if the COMEX can stand for delivery... Better to build a DEATH STAR ~ which can be built with paper money...

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:02 | 3276725 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Where are the UFOs?

 

Nibiru is currently in the area around the Pleiades (info here).  It will take too long to get to us.  We are screwed!  Maybe the UFOs can save your greatgrandchildren...

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:44 | 3277030 WarriorClass
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The decendents of the Nephilim: John D. Rockefeller, Cornelius Vanderbilt, Andrew Carnegie, Henry Ford and J.P. Morgan.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 10:29 | 3277325 prains
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aaaaaaaah more soothing balm for the nuts of america

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:41 | 3276632 GMadScientist
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you have to watch out for that glass house

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 07:44 | 3276931 Monedas
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Although the CNN cameras were edited to confuse the issue .... those SA platinum miners were shot by black police in a black government !  Socialist rewriters of history have to dig deep and pervert the truth and go back over a hundred years to smear their drivel !

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 07:40 | 3276926 Monedas
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3,000 Chinese coal miners are killed at work every year .... on a good year .... only 2,000 .... shut the fuck up Socialist perverts !

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:51 | 3276346 T-roll
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This could also be titled "The Men Who Paved the Road to Big Government"

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:52 | 3276352 buzzsaw99
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They can bury the rest of today's maggots right alongside them.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 22:56 | 3276366 The big unzip
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Shows what can be done without govt regulations stopping you.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:00 | 3276379 otto skorzeny
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clean air and water and protected natural habitat and wildlife suck

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:03 | 3276392 mofreedom
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go back to germany you hitler licker.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:05 | 3276396 otto skorzeny
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you got OT fuckhead

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:07 | 3276402 mofreedom
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I'm saying you're gay, speak english?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:01 | 3276381 mofreedom
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yeah, i build a huge playhouse for my kids and the inspectors keep driving by, buy they haven't stopped once.  If they do, i'm torching the whole thing in front of their eyes.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:13 | 3276415 otto skorzeny
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if you do torch it make sure you don't catch the rest of the trailer park on fire.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 06:23 | 3276873 francis_sawyer
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You're kids cook meth too?

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:46 | 3276636 GMadScientist
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So instead of just filing for a building permit like everyone else, you'll leave your kids with no daddy while you go to jail for arson.

Brilliant plan!

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:06 | 3276732 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The drone will take care of the playhouse, and the operator will be told to make sure that daddy is "collateral damage".

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 07:51 | 3276939 Monedas
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If you built a tree house or a lemonade stand .... the inspectors would have already made their move .... torch their watering hole .... it's probably full of government hole lickers !

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:44 | 3276634 GMadScientist
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Yes, it's easy to be successful when you run roughshod over the people who actually build things.

Just like its easy to steal everything you need instead of working and rape instead of courting.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:00 | 3276378 DavidPierre
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1933:

When asked by a reporter for the Detroit News why he keeps a life-sized portrait of Henry Ford in his office, Adolf Hitler replies, “I regard Henry Ford as my inspiration."

Dupont, whose anti-Semitism puts him in the same league as the Dulles brothers, Henry Ford and Adolf Hitler, begins financing fascist groups in the U.S.

The best known is the American Liberty League (ALL), a pro-Nazi organization dedicated to whipping up hatred of blacks and Jews and love of Hitler. Dupont provides half a million dollars in the first year alone to ALL which has a lavish thirty-one-room office in New York City, branches in twenty-six colleges and fifteen subsidiary organizations throughout the U.S. which distribute fifty million copies of pro-Nazi pamphlets.

Among the largest contributors of cash to ALL is the "cream" of the American corporate world including...

J. Howard Pew (Sun Oil),

Walter Chrysler (Chrysler),

William Farish (Standard Oil),

Howard Heinz (Heinz Foods),

Andrew Mellon (Mellon Bank, Gulf Oil, Alcoa),

H.F. Pitcairn (Pittsburgh Glass),

Alfred P. Sloan (General Motors),

Senior exectives of Phillips Petroleum, U.S. Steel, First National Bank, General Foods, Grace National Bank, Morgan Partners, Central Hanover Bank and Trust, Westinghouse, JC Penny and B&O Railroad.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:01 | 3276386 otto skorzeny
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fuck this shit-take your mossad psycho-babble elsewhere.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:06 | 3276399 mofreedom
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knew it...Hitler licker!

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:08 | 3276407 otto skorzeny
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what's your point?

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:48 | 3276641 GMadScientist
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On top of his head.

Back in the early days of Ford, it was pretty much planned out that the different races of workers would live in different cities around Detroit; guess who lived in 'Dearborn' and who predominantly lived in 'Inkster'.

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:13 | 3276417 DavidPierre
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Aw... what the matter ... little otto?

Does history destroy your moronic ameriKlan illusions?

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The American and German corporations behind Hitler see their investment in the Nazis pay off immediately when Hitler dissolves German labor unions and establishes (FEMA) concentration camps for labor leaders and socialists, rendering Germany's workers utterly powerless.

Most corporations operating in Germany, including the many American-owned ones, are quick to take advantage of the situation and dramatically reduce their labor costs. In the first five years of Hitler's reign, Ford cuts its labor costs from fifteen per cent of business volume to only eleven per cent. Coca-Cola's bottling plant in Essen dramatically increases its profits because, in Hitler's state, workers are "little more than serfs forbidden not only to strike, but to change jobs," driven "to work harder (and) faster" while their wages "were deliberately set quite low."

As real wages decline, General Motors, Ford and the rest begin receiving massive armaments orders from the Nazis as the program of German rearmament is rushed to completion. Under the Third Reich, corporate profits skyrocket with U.S. corporate leaders, including William Knudsen, chairman of General Motors and Sosthenes Behn of IT&T openly expressing their admiration of der Führer.

After World War II, anti-fascist resistance member Otto Jenssen writes that corporate leaders were happy "that fear of the concentration camp made the German workers as meek as lapdogs."

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:15 | 3276430 otto skorzeny
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so-are you in or out on this Fourth Reich thing?

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:23 | 3276452 DavidPierre
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More 'mossad psycho-babble' just for you little otto.

The Warburg family, one of the world's wealthiest and most influential Jewish families and owners of one of the world's largest banking empires, was intimately involved in the drafting of the Treaty of Versailles which bankrupted the German republic and set the country up for takeover by the Nazis. The Warburgs are a major force in restoring German arms makers such as Krupp to economic viability while cooperating with the American promoters of Adolf Hitler, particularly the Rockefeller, Harriman and Bush families and the Dulles brothers. Warburg represents the Harriman/Bush interest in the Hamburg-Amerika Line in Germany and exercises the Harriman/Bush voting rights at stockholders' meetings.

The Warburgs are also heavily involved in assembling the massive chemical cartel, IG Farben another major promoter of Adolf Hitler and the manufacturer of Zyklon-B gas which will used to exterminate millions of Jews and other "subhumans". Members of the Warburg family sit on the Farben board of directors.

The Warburgs apply pressure to Jewish organizations in the U.S. to refrain from criticizing Hitler and the Nazis. Max Warburg's son, Erich, sends a cable to his cousin, Frederick M. Warburg, a director of the Harriman railroad system. He asks Frederick to "use all your influence" to stop all anti-Nazi activity in America, including "atrocity news and unfriendly propaganda".

Two days later, the American-Jewish Committee, controlled by the Warburgs, and the B'nai B'rith, heavily influenced by the Sulzberger family, owners of the New York Times and another powerful and wealthy Jewish family, issues an official joint statement, urging "that no American boycott against Germany be encouraged" and advising "that no further mass meetings be held or similar forms of agitation be employed." The two organizations maintain their "Let's not be beastly to Hitler" stance throughout the 1930s, tragically hampering the fight mounted by many Jews and anti-fascists against the rise of Nazism.

It's just good business.  Right otto?

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 01:59 | 3276540 Pseudo Anonym
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warburg, warburg...where have i heard that name?  is it the same warburg that was one of the private owners of the newly created fed in 1913?

It's just good business.

edit: for more, text search for warburg in section hofjuden (court jew): http://tinyurl.com/dfztye

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:01 | 3276952 Crassus
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Anti communism being the national religion of the U.S., it was not difficult to find backers for Hitler, a sworn enemy of the communists. Hitler was tolerated and backed in expectation he would attack the Bolsheviks, which he did.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:07 | 3276958 overmedicatedun...
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in the last several years the local post office workers have gone from mix of white and black to all black faces today, seems odd.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:26 | 3276466 JOYFUL
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO5sbwGCR7A
Eustace Mullins explains connection between the NAtional socialists and ZIonists . The result is a NAZI Party which rules the world today.

You're on a roll bud...

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:38 | 3276491 DavidPierre
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1933:

For a year, a commission established by the U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs has supposedly been investigating the causes of the Wall Street Crash. Initially, the investigation" is little more than a whitewash. The first two commission counsels are fired and the third resigns in protest because there is no power to subpoena witnesses, which makes the whole exercise a bit of a farce.

Things take a remarkable turn when a remarkable man, New York City prosecutor, Ferdinand J. Pecora, accepts the position of Chief Counsel to the commission.

In February, Pecora begins a real investigation of what Franklin Roosevelt called "the ruthless manipulation of professional gamblers and the corporate system" which caused the Great Crash of 1929 and led to the Depression.

The Pecora Hearings lasted over a year and provoked outrage among Americans. The stupefying greed and criminality of the ruling class so clearly exposed by Pecora, led to the Crash of 1929 and plunged the U.S. and much of the world into the Great Depression, causing untold hardship and misery for hundreds of millions of people.

Like so much of American history, the findings of the Pecora hearings and even the fact that they were held, are virtually unknown in the United States.

Following the Pecora hearings, a wave of regulatory legislation attempts to keep America's corporate criminals under control, although "short selling", one of the financial games most beloved of experienced Wall Street swindlers, was not outlawed.

Almost all of the protective legislation would vanish or be diluted in the 1990s by William "Slick Willy" Clinton, leaving the savings of Americans once again completely at the mercy of financial racketeers with entirely predictable results.

"Legal chicanery and pitch darkness were the banker's stoutest allies."  Ferdinand Pecora

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 01:21 | 3276669 newengland
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Zionism is bad for jews, and most people. It is a hateful thing which funded the world's worst 20th century killing machines: socialism and communism. Only Islamism is worse.

George Washington came to Rhode Island to thank the epicenter of new jews for their loyalty and money and aid in founding the new Republic. For better or worse, the USA is a Judeo-Christian compact.

People came to America to make a new land, and escape the hatred of the old lands.

Long live the Revolution.

Hitler, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pol, and all the ugliest fascists of the 20th century killing machine were liked and funded by the international financiers who now hide under nicey names like the Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg Group et al.

A short rope and long drop is too good for them - those fascists, hateful rootless cosmopolitans.

EG the IMF, World Bank, central banks, BIS, and their offspring: UN, UNICEF.

I will respect them when they do good instead of talking good.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:11 | 3276737 DavidPierre
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1917-1918: The War Industries Board (WIB) is established.

Samuel P. Bush, father of Nazi financier-to-be Prescott Bush, and great grandfather of George W. Bush, is named chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms and Ammunition Section of the Board. Although he has absolutely no experience in the field, Bush is a well-proven minion of the Harrimans and the Rockefellers and that's what really matters.

Bush is given responsibility for government "assistance" to and relations with the Rockefellers' Remington Arms and other weapons makers. The War Industries Board itself is run by Bernard Baruch, a Wall Street speculator with close personal and business ties to the merchant of death Guggenheims and to robber baron E.H. Harriman. Baruch personally handles Harriman's Wall Street manipulations.

In 1918, Bush is made director of the Facilities Division of the War Industries Board reporting to Baruch and to Baruch's assistant, Wall Street private banker and another Nazi financier-to be, Clarence Dillon nee Lapowski.

Robert S. Lovett, the President of the Harrimans' Union Pacific Railroad, chief counsel to E.H. Harriman, executor of his will and yet another Nazi-financier-to-be is placed in charge of national production and purchase "priorities" for the WIB.

And, by amazing coincidence, yet another Nazi financier-to-be, John Foster Dulles, will soon join the WIB.

And, to round out what will become the Hitler Project Team, Samuel Pryor, executive committee chairman of Remington Arms, which will supply arms to the Nazi brownshirts for Hitler's takeover of Germany, is also placed on the WIB.

The War Industries Board, aside from its primary purpose of transferring wealth from ordinary Americans to the ruling class families, seems to have functioned as a training ground and private club for the men who would later orchestrate the takeover of Germany by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and plunge the world into the horrors of the Second World War.

All of the sections of the War Industries Board are manned by executives of the very corporations the Board is supposed to be controlling.

The Locomotive Section consists entirely of executives of the locomotive manufacturing industry.

The Shoe and Leather Section consists of eight people, all of them from shoe or leather companies.

The same applies to the Woolen Manufactures Section, the Cement Section, the Copper Section and the Steel Section. In fact, each and every Section of the War Industries Board is little more than a private club of the very industrialists the Board is supposed to be exercising control over.

The most outrageous example of corporate control of the War Industries board is the Oil Section, the chairman of which is the president of the Rockefellers’ Standard Oil, a company which has just been found guilty of massive anti trust violations and is now officially directing a part of the work of the government of the United States.

Under the direction of the War Industries Board, vast amounts of the U.S. taxpayers' money ends up in the hands of well-connected weapons makers and the holders of certain raw materials and patents.

The profits of the U.S. ruling class skyrocket. Dupont's profits grow by more than a thousand percent and the merchant of death reaps further huge benefits from the taxpayers in the form of massive subsidies to build factories and chemical plants which it will profit from long after the war is over.

The stock of Bethlehem Steel soars by two thousand percent. General Motors stock (owned largely by the Duponts) increases in value by almost one thousand percent.

And, of course, there is the usual round of scams and disappearing money. More than a billion dollars of the taxpayers' money is spent, supposedly to purchase combat aircraft, and yet not one is delivered, as later investigation will reveal.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 03:44 | 3276797 Kirk2NCC1701
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Hmm, interesting and impressive research/info.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 04:25 | 3276819 22winmag
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Forget about 10,000 lawyers. What do you call 4 million mortar shells in the cargo hold of a British passenger liner with Americans onboard... at the bottom of the sea?

 

A good start.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:23 | 3276987 Oldrepublic
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false flag

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 09:32 | 3277144 ajax
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What do you call Israelis upholding Int'l. law?  An oxymoron.

What do you call Tzipi Livni and B. Netanyahu?  War criminals.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 01:25 | 3276681 SillySalesmanQu...
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Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:06 | 3276957 Crassus
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Monica Lewinsky brought down Glass-Steagall. Quid pro quo.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 09:11 | 3277095 Bob
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Clinton was more than ready to implement a neoliberal rebuild of government on his own.  He was a DLC (Democratic Leadership Council) man from the start:

http://prospect.org/article/how-dlc-does-it

It should be noted that the Kochs were supporters of the DLC before they moved on to the Tea Party, their work with the Democratic Party complete.

Clinton and Gore were fully committed to "free market" deregulation acrorss the board:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-07-24/reinventing-crony-capitalism

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 09:34 | 3277131 Crassus
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Indeed, he was predisposed to do so. But I think he was hoping to get a little more for it.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 10:20 | 3277296 ajax
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Watch and listen to this lecture:

A Nation of Deadbeats

Pundits will argue that the 2008 financial crisis was the first crash in American history driven by consumer debt. But Scott Nelson demonstrates in his new book, A Nation of Deadbeats: An Uncommon History of America's Financial Disasters, that consumer debt has underpinned almost every major financial panic in the nation’s history. In each case, the chain of banks, brokers, moneylenders, and insurance companies that separated borrowers and lenders made it impossible to distinguish good loans from bad. Bound up in this history are stories of national banks funded by smugglers, fistfights in Congress over the gold standard, America's early dependence on British bankers, and how presidential campaigns were forged in controversies over private debt. Scott Reynolds Nelson is the Leslie and Naomi Legum Professor of History at the College of William and Mary.

http://blip.tv/virginia-historical-society/a-nation-of-deadbeats-an-unco...

 

 

 

 

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 10:25 | 3277308 Sandmann
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The Us Government paid Ford and GM compensation for their bombed factories in Germany

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:18 | 3276437 daz
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is JPM investing in fusion now or not?

 

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:18 | 3276439 devo
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These ass clowns can blow me.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:26 | 3276460 newengland
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NO. NO. NO. 

Ford, maybe.

The others exploited the USA, and their descendants have fucked it over ever since, eg the Trilateral Commission.

The people who made the USA gave it a conscience, a future, wealth, prosperity in perpetuity. 

All of that was robbed by the likes of the 3 you mention, and their British allies.

Clearly, you do not understand wealth and power everlasting as opposed to those you laud.

Mon, 02/25/2013 - 23:39 | 3276494 Cabreado
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There is a difference between filling a vacuum, when the landscape is so ripe for the picking,

and recognizing the greater mission; therefore, knowing when to stop.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 00:22 | 3276581 world_debt_slave
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IMO everything on tv is a propaganda piece from psy-ops and/or CIA

 

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 04:19 | 3276817 22winmag
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It's not your opinion, it's fact. Lies do not fit into the human brain... that's why people have been abandoning television like dogs abandon a meat truck when then see the first lady coming.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 01:31 | 3276689 newengland
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Ford good because he had the temerity to say that if people understood the dark nature of modern finance, then there would be a revolution by morning.

The Rockefellers, agents of Rothschilds, were the opposite. They are exploiters, and takers...not makers. Horrid things.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 02:04 | 3276729 q99x2
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Not these psychopaths again. Hunt down their offspring and re-distribute their stolen wealth.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 05:06 | 3276845 22winmag
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If you redistribute their stolen wealth, it gets spent on crack and lottery tickets posthaste. Redistribution (aka reparations) never works. When you give the plantation to the slaves, the crops fail.

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 04:56 | 3276839 Sandmann
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You fail to mention Tariffs like the McKinley Tariff 1890 and how much money it transferred into the hands of the cartels ? Or that the Tariffs affected goods that the USA did not produce but imported and how that created a Welfare Loss for Consumers in favour of Business. These titans of the gilded age benefitted from Oligopoly and obstructing Competitive Markets as with Leland Stanford and John D Rockefeller. Surely you should be praising the new Gatsbys on Wall Street and in KKR, Bain Capital, Carlyle for their ability to blend Politics with Oligopoly. Just why did the Trustbusters become so popular if the Gilded Age was so magnificent ? Let us contrast with Germany where the Gruenderjahre threw up Krupp, Thyssen, Stinnes and the huge shipyards of Blohm & Voss and the war machine that needed more coal and more iron ore and more territory. I am not sure the fact that Industrial Barons have been replaced by Financial Barons makes a lot of difference - it was Siemens that founded Deutsche Bank. It was a Jewish trader in the California Gold Rush that founded Goldman Sachs

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:14 | 3276968 Monedas
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These "Capitalist Boogey Man Monsters" must have made it easy for the Socialists .... to avoid their mistakes .... and to debut their workers paradises .... North Korea, Zimbabwe, Cuba, Khmer Rouge !   Why don't all the Socialists get together every year .... and vote for the top ten socialist paradises .... a la David Letterman .... let them tell us .... what they consider as a good worker's state .... not from a 100 years ago .... today, with all the benefits of hindsight ?  LOL

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 08:32 | 3277005 Oldrepublic
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Gore Vidal's historical novels: 1876 and Empire excellent reading for this time period in American history

Tue, 02/26/2013 - 10:06 | 3277254 ajax
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@Oldrepublic  +1000  

And do read ALL Vidal's essays; if he begins to sound repetitive at times don't blame him. Vidal knew quite well what it takes to be understood in "The United States of Amnesia".

Most delectable is Vidal's abiding derision of Norman (Poddy) Podhoretz, Editor-at-large of Commentary. A taste: "Significantly, the one Yiddish word that has gained universal acceptance in this country is chutzpah. Example: in 1960, Mr. and Mrs. Podhoretz were in upstate New York where I used to live. I was trying out a play at Hyde Park Playhouse; the play was set during the Civil War. "Why", asked Poddy, are you writing a play about, of all things, the Civil War?" I explained to him that my mother's family had fought for the Confederacy and my father's for the Union, and that the Civil War was - and is - to the United States what the Trojan War was to the Greeks, the great single tragic event that continues to give resonance to our Republic.

 "Well to me", said Poddy, "the Civil War is as remote and as irrelevant as the War of the Roses." I realized then that he was not planning to become an "assimilated American", to use the old-fashioned terminology; but, rather, his first loyalty would always be to Israel. Yet he and Midge stay on among us, in order to make propaganda and raise money for Israel - a country they don't seem eager to live in. Jewish joke circa 1900: A Zionist is someone who wants to ship other people off to Palestine."

 Oh yes do read Vidal.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 03:22 | 3280960 dark pools of soros
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did any of you asshats realize Tesla & Westinghouse was in this one?

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