China Launches New Stealth Frigate

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China has been busy reverse engineering military equipment again, this time of the maritime variety, as it launches its first stealth frigate. Supposedly this will make incidents such as this month's "radar lock" tension over the Senkaku islands a thing of the past, as by the time Chinese boats want to be seen, they will be visible with the naked eye. The only question is whose secret plans were hacked in the procurement of the design plans. From BBC: "China's navy has taken delivery of the first of a new kind of stealth frigate, as tension continues with neighbouring countries over maritime borders. The Type 056 stealth frigate has a sleek design that helps it evade radar detection, and needs just one-third of the crew used by its predecessor." Needless to say, the timing of the launch is "just right", and will serve to underscore China's position on the disputed gas field next to several barren islands in the East China Sea.

More from CBS:

The People's Liberation Army Navy is building a total of 20 Type 056 Jiangdao class frigates to replace older models and bolster its ability to conduct patrols and escort ships and submarines in waters it claims in the South China and East China seas.

 

The first in the class, No. 582, was formally delivered to the navy on Monday in Shanghai, which is home to one of the country's largest complexes of naval shipyards, according to the official Xinhua News Agency and the navy's official website.

 

Newly promoted navy commander Wu Shengli attended the delivery ceremony, the reports said, an indication of the importance with which the service regards the new ships' mission.

 

The helicopter-equipped ships feature a sleek design to reduce clutter and make them harder to spot by radar and are armed with anti-ship and anti-aircraft missiles. They also need a crew of just 60, two-thirds fewer than older vessels, a major advantage that should boost efficiency and relieve burdens in training and recruitment. At 1,440 tons fully loaded, is considerably smaller than U.S. Navy frigates, and is categorized by some observers as a member of the smaller class of ship known as corvettes.

 

China's navy has so far stayed aloof from the island disputes in order to avoid further escalating tensions, with patrol ships from the Ministry of Transportation and other government agencies dispatched instead to assert China's territorial claims.

 

However, China has made no secret of its desire to extend its navy's global reach, and the service has received considerable attention in China's military modernization. China's first aircraft carrier, the overhauled Soviet-era Liaoning, entered service last year, while a growing array of nuclear submarines and ultra-modern surface ships are also joining the fleet.

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moonstears's picture

Classic media blunder ...that was a luxery sub-marine, disguised as a boat, sneaky Chinamen!

The Juggernaut's picture

What happens when China's Military-Industrial Complex is bigger than America's Military-Industrial Complex?  Will China's honey be sweeter thus sway contries easier than America's honey?

MillionDollarBonus_'s picture

All this fighting ... when will nations unite in peace to form a global government, and these wars altogether? We desperately need a new world order. The fighting just has to stop. Collectively, if we work together we can create something great as a species. One thing I find interesting is how the brightest foreign students flock to America's Ivy League colleges, only to disappear into top governmental and corporate positions in their own countries. If we collectivism these expertise in a single global government, we can all benefit from the economic and social planning of these global leaders. Global governance is no longer just a dream - it's now a real possibility, but global leaders need to get serious if we want to see it in our lifetimes.

The Juggernaut's picture

@MillionDollarBonus_:Centralized planning?  You would, you megalomaniac ivy league shyte wipe.  You may have went to Harvard, Yale, Oxy whatever.   But you never understood your ass from your elbow. 

The future is flat government.  Everyone represents themselves.  Government's know about inalienable rights but still want the responsibilities of those rights.  Thats why you vote for some fuck face and send them to DC in hopes they won't sell their worthless souls to corporations.  The future is inalienable responsibility for inalienable rights.  No more voting for turncoats.  The responsibility is no longer in DC, its in your actions.  This will permanently give every sovereign person their Liberty.  They will be able to govern themselves and rely on local community for help.  Moreover, private businesses would care for people not governments.  Because corps. rely on profits, in essence demand.  Unlike governments, if the businesses ruin their demand they go bankrupt.  Gov't is just a wild enabling beast.

Manthong's picture

It’s just a good thing for them that it is invisible to satellites, produces no magnetic anomaly and leaves no  infrared, sound, or particulate discharge footprint otherwise we could find it.  

gmrpeabody's picture

In fact..., it's so invisible that we have to take their word for it.

Ahmeexnal's picture

Seems like China has succesfuly reverse engineered the Philadelphia Experiment.

TruthInSunshine's picture

This thing is about as stealthy as Warren Buffett farting in the bathtub (whilst deciding to buy or sell BAC preferred shares & warrants).

Acet's picture

Aaah, yes ...

Peace on Earth!

Dogs & cats, lions & sheep together in harmony!

The world covered in Unicorns, Fairies and Rainbows!

The Heavenly music of the Spheres surrounding us all!

The ignorance, naked greed and abuse of your fellow man, all a thing of the past!

...

And then I came down from the Magic Mushroom overdose and had a massive headache.

nofluer's picture

Re: "Million$bonus"

Sounds like he's been smoking the bad shit, not the good stuff. Maybe someone should call 911 for him and see if the EMTs have a head extractor.

Ralph Spoilsport's picture

Collectivisming these expertises is difficult when the language gets in the way.

prains's picture

MDB

 

I'm not to sure you can float either

Acet's picture

Well, given that a million dollars is all fiat, overwelmingly of the paper variety, he/she probably can float.

Not true for most of us, who went trough the unfortunate experience of having to let go of our, hard-earned wealth during boating accidents since it was of the heavy, non-floating variety and we would've died if we kept holding on to it. So sad :(

McMolotov's picture

If we collectivism these expertise...

Lay off the bath salts, dude.

LynRobison's picture

Yesterday you were extolling the virtues of democracy. Which is it MDB, nation-based democracy or global government?

trollin4sukrz's picture

MDB!! Great to see you are back! Excellent troll btw. I am in agreement with you, a NWO is exactly what the world needs to relieve it from 6 to 7 billion parasites. The day is coming being from man or nature but we as a specie have massive overshoot.

twh99's picture

World Government!?!   No thank you.

The world has enough problems already with the governments that exist now.  I cannot imagine what a world government would look like. 

Oh wait I can, just look at how well the UN is managed.

 

Next thing you know.  MDB will be proponent of having a mark put on your hand or forehead to facilitate financial transactions.

Blano's picture

Just seeing your name pop up makes me chuckle now.

reTARD's picture

Great post MDB! Bullish on NWO, collectivism, American universities, and "just right" timing. LOL

waterwitch's picture

What the hell is an army navy?

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

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What the hell is an army navy?

It's like an army air force, except in the water.

akak's picture

Make me laugh.

This Chinese citizenism army navy stearth fligate only latest means of Communist 'chinese' monolizing the resource blobbing-up means.  Senkaku Islands only stepping-on stones to downing the road Communist 'chinese' invasionism of Japanese home islands.  Just like in 1950s Tibet, Communist 'chinese' citizenism citizens will mind up some rationalization for invasion and annexation of Japan --- maybe savioring them from eating of raw fish, perhaps?  Yes, much so better to consumptionalize kitten McNuggets, General Tso's puppy, and human fetus broth with lotus roots!

Yep, stearthalizing fligates for futures invasionings are part and package of typical Communist 'chinese' citizenism.

straightershooter's picture

HA! Try this.

"People's liberation Army"  is really not army per se, but rather equivalent to the Pentagon or Department of Defense in the US.

So, it makes sense to have People's liberation Army- Navy, that means Pentangon-Navy; then of course, you got People's liberation Army-Army. Got it! Army is not really army per se, it got numerous meanings.

 

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Free download today. Gonna blow your mind away!

nofluer's picture

An "Army - Navy" is THE football game of the year, usually played the first Saturday of December wherein the tradition is that the Army regularly gets it's butt kicked.

Aegelis's picture

Super easy to find because all the sailors have iPhones.  I hear we have drones that can make you sing, "I got a rocket in my pocket!"

BandGap's picture

Frigettes the size of corvettes? Sound rike they have size probrem.

Acet's picture

I'm pretty sure their anti-air and anti-ship missiles are still full-size.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

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Frigettes the size of corvettes? Sound rike they have size probrem.

Ah, ah, dietation supprementariness with powdered rhino horn, bear penis, and shark fin soup providing required magic ingredients for mastodonic growth, up to 2cm.

Ralph Spoilsport's picture

AnAnonymouse put saltpeter in you egg roll if you no stop!

The_Dude's picture

Where is the crab pot launcher?

akak's picture

They just hang it over the sides of the ship --- you know, like they do on their roadsides.

 

Oh, wait, I thought you said "the crap pot launcher"!

Theta_Burn's picture

Personally i can't wait for the "dildoe" class of frigate, slightly larger than this class, and just as able to quickly get in and out of hairy situations.

Seriously a frigate? wouldn't a submarine program be better money spent? I suppose they will make excellent rescue boats...

Joe Davola's picture

Probably that goofy salesman from the commercials lured them in with incentives.

laomei's picture

The era of building big boats is over, or at least it should be.  They are nothing more than giant slow-moving targets.  Small fast boats with better systems is where it's at.

 

The only possible exception is aircraft carriers, but drone carriers will be the next big thing anyways.  Dog fighting is a thing of the past, pilots are expensive to train and only come into play when/if com and satlinks go down.  A nice backup to keep on hand, but that level of warfare escalation would result in the shortest war ever fought and no one would really be able to claim that they "won" it.

thisandthat's picture

A quick look at wikipedia would tell CBS it's a corvette, but why'd they care?

HL Shancken's picture

By Jeff Nyquist

 

Authenticating China’s Strategy: Letter to a friend

The following commentary should be appended to a discussion of the alleged speech of General Chi Haotian about destroying and invading the United States: In this regard you suggest (1) that the speech is a hoax. This is entirely possible, although close analysis tends in another direction. Strategy is my subject and my life-longstudy. Believe it or not, it is possible in strategy to know certain things indirectly, by inference and analysis. After careful consideration, with regard to the speeches attributed to General Chi, I think it is unwise to say “we don’t know” and “it doesn’t matter.” In fact, it’s not impossible to analyze a document to determine its authenticity. Here is a task entirely within the reach of a strategic analyst. Furthermore, if the document is authentic then it matters a great deal; for the enemy’s intentions are laid bare, with countless implications (and potential war-winning insights). When we first encounter an unfamiliar text, we don’t know how to judge it. We are completely lost, and this is normal. Those who claim to understand something on first contact are deceiving themselves. Nothing worth knowing is understood immediately. When I first read the two speeches attributed to General Chi Haotian my reaction was to dismiss them as you did. When I read the first paragraph of the second speech, I rolled my eyes and laughed at what seemed to be an obvious fraud. At first reading they were not credible. (This is the same reaction I had to Golitsyn in 1984). Two years elapsed and, as chance would have it, I was doing some research on Mao Zedong’s strategic ideas. In the midst of this research I was stunned by Mao’s determination to build a fleet and invade North America. I was also struck by the brutality and cynicism of his statements. I went back and started re-reading Sun Tzu and the commentaries on Sun Tzu. My mind suddenly drifted back to the two speeches attributed to General Chi Haotian.

On my second reading I realized these speeches are only incredible from a Western point of view. From a Chinese strategist’s point of view, these speeches are consistent with 2,500 years of Chinese history and thought. There is nothing inauthentic in these two speeches. If they are a hoax, then a genius produced them. More than that, this aforesaid genius possesses authentic tidbits of military intelligence that are not known by the general public — but were revealed to me by a high-ranking Russian military defector with more than three years experience in China. Mao once said that the first Chin emperor was nothing compared with himself. The first Chin emperor only killed a thousand Confucian scholars. Mao had killed hundreds of thousands of Confucian scholars. This was Mao’s boast. Such boasting is unknown to Western history, except to figures who are dismissed as madmen. One is reminded of the Chinese warlord whose father was taken prisoner and held hostage by a rival. In this instance, the rival threatened to boil the old man alive. The war lord sent his reply: “Save me some of the soup.” One has to dig through the Dark Ages of Western history to find anything like it. Or else it is something from the history of Caligula or Nero or Eliagabulus, who were considered dreadful failures and misfits. In China such behavior on the part of leaders has long been normalized. The Western ethic, which followed from the hero-worship of the ancient Greeks and Romans, places nobility as the true standard of greatness.

Chinese civilization places a high premium on realistic thinking, brutality and success. This is greatness in the Chinese context. How does this point argue the authenticity of the alleged speeches of General Chi? A person who disagrees with the strategic culture of China, favoring freedom and humane government, doesn’t possess the mentality needed to reproduce such a brilliant piece of mimicry. One would have to be a student of Sun Tzu and the Chin emperor and Mao Zedong, not a student of Thomas Jefferson or Lincoln. Such a student would not value freedom, having absorbed a philosophy entirely at odds with Western culture. More than that, it is a culture that believes in the West’s weakness and inevitable fall. If you were going to advance a fraudulent speech by a Chinese communist leader, would you dare put into his mouth the statement that Nazi Germany was “too soft”? Would you dare open your first paragraph with the assertion that you are pleased that 80 percent of Chinese polled would approve killing women and children in a war? Anyone with the sophistication to produce this document would have avoided going so far, fearing that the reader would laugh out loud at such an obvious propaganda fraud. Only a simple person would start Chi’s second speech with that kind of paragraph, and a simple person did not compose this speech!

To make a credible fraud, you have to downplay the wickedness of the Communists. You must be subtle in your presentation so that the fraud has a chance to sound credible. But the Chi speech is not subtle as a fraudulent presentation would have to be. Instead, it is deep and profound and brilliant in its totalitarian perspective. The compassion for the American victims comes late in the second speech, long after the skeptics would’ve stopped reading it. I do not know if the speech is genuine. But if I had to lay a bet, then I’d wager on its authenticity. That is to say, I suspect it is authentic. And the way to test its authenticity is to see if Chinese actions are consistent with its program. There is something more, as well. I know from my discussions with a Russian defector that Russia and China agreed to split North America between them as follows: Russia would get Alaska and parts of Canada, while China would get the lower 48 states (which contains the best land). The agreement on this was affirmed by the Russian General Staff in early 1992. This joint agreement on a future wa ragainst America is the basis for the Sino-Russian alliance. And if you read General Chi’s speech carefully, you will see that he brilliantly lays out the logic of the Chinese offensive and their means of advancing. He does not mention Russia’s role because Party cadres don’t need to know about Russia’s military contribution. They only need the most general strategic outline and why the war is necessary. You must read this speech several times in order to understand its profound science. If this speech is counterfeit, the counterfeiter spent many years devising it. In fact, a hoax of this type could only be produced, as I noted before, by a genuis. If General Chi was not the author, then the author should be a general — and ought to have General Chi’s job.

In point (2) you mention 9/11. Chi’s speech explains why a false flag terror attack is necessary in advance of a biological warfare offensive against the United States. As would be proper, General Chi gives nothing away. He merely implies that the Americans will not know who is really attacking them. This is intrinsic to his speech, even though he doesn’t spare words explaining why. In point (3) you ask if this is good propaganda material against communism. Since our goal is to understand the enemy, the propaganda value is of secondary importance. 

 

http://jrnyquist.com/

The collapse of the Soviet Union was staged. Understand the moves of Russia and China in the correct light.

http://thefinalphaseforum.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=44

HL Shancken's picture

Excerpts from Chinese General Chi Haotion speech cited above:

...."It is indeed brutal to kill one or two hundred million Americans. But that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century, a century in which the CCP leads the world. We, as revolutionary humanitarians, do not want deaths. But if history confronts us with a choice between deaths of Chinese and those of Americans, we'd have to pick the latter, as, for us, it is more important to safeguard the lives of the Chinese people and the life of our Party. That is because, after all, we are Chinese and members of the CCP. Since the day we joined the CCP, the Party's life has always been above all else! History will prove that we made the right choice.".....

 

 

...."Certainly, in spreading Comrade He Xin's views, we cannot publish the article in the party newspapers, in order to avoid raising the enemy's vigilance. He Xin's conversation may remind the enemy that we have grasped the modern science and technology, including "clean" nuclear technology, gene weapons technology as well as biological weapons technology, and we can use powerful measures to eliminate their population on a large-scale."....

 

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-8-8/31055.html

 

Understand the world as it is---not how it is presented. Discard your old thinking. Look at the world a whole new way. Why cling to disproven representations of events? Are you suicidal? Read the short article below. It won't take five minutes of your time. It describes reality.

 

http://thefinalphaseforum.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=44

Ralph Spoilsport's picture

Ah, he's pimping a blogsite. Shoulda guessed.

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

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Understand the world as it is---not how it is presented.

That would be good advice for J.R. Nyquist. He thinks Brezhnev is still running the Kremlin.

HL Shancken's picture

What is your interest in making a mockery of such a serious subject as United States defense vis a vis the threat posed by fellow superpowers China and Russia?

Shell Game's picture

The only threat is Statism and Empire.  In order to keep your preciuos status quo, you would have the US further debase its currency, further wage cyber-warfare, further wage the propaganda of the Big Lie, further bomb brown skins, replace sovereign regimes and monetize their private property, spy on their own citizens, etc...

You can take your empire and place it not so gently up your garbage shoot.