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Wal-Mart Situation "Getting Worse" New Leaks Reveal

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Two weeks ago, Wal-Mart stunned the world when a leaked memo discloses that February sales had been a "total disaster" and the company was facing the worst February start since 2006. Today, Bloomberg's deep throat in Bentonville strikes again, as a new leak emerges. "Wal-Mart Stores Inc (WMT), already struggling to woo shoppers constrained by higher taxes, is “"getting worse" at keeping shelves stocked, the retailer’s U.S. chief told executives, according to minutes of an officers’ meeting obtained by Bloomberg News. "We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in," U.S. Chief Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the Feb. 1 meeting. Simon called “self-inflicted wounds” Wal-Mart’s “biggest risk” and said an executive vice president had been appointed to fix the restocking problem, according to the minutes."

So even as the market completely ignored the Wal-Mart revenue issue, which is "getting worse", the bigger problem is that now it appears to be affecting the company's supply-chain, which likely means that all of WMT's upstream vendors are suffering from the same malaise that has gripped all those entities that still rely on such historical trivia as profitability and cash flow:

Wal-Mart’s inability to keep its shelves stocked coincides with slowing sales growth. Same-store sales in the U.S. for the 13 weeks ending April 26 will be little changed, Simon said in the company’s Feb. 21 earnings call. Comparable sales increased 1 percent in the fourth quarter, compared with an average of 1.4 percent from analysts surveyed by Bloomberg. This year the shares gained 4.2 percent through yesterday, compared with a 5 percent advance for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index.

 

Evelin Cruz, a department manager at the Wal-Mart Supercenter in Pico Rivera, California, said Simon’s comments from the officers’ meeting were “dead on.”

 

“There are gaps where merchandise is missing,” Cruz said in a telephone interview. “We are not talking about a couple of empty shelves. This is throughout the store in every store. Some places look like they’re going out of business.”

 

Cruz, 41, who has worked at Wal-Mart for nine years and oversees the photo and wireless sections at her store, said it can take weeks or months for merchandise to be replaced after it sells out.

 

“My camera bar hasn’t had cameras since early January,” she said. “They let the merchandise phase out but nothing new comes in to replace them. We’re supposed to have 72 cameras but we maybe have 12. What are customers supposed to buy?”

Sure enough, WMT again has pre-canned (pardon the pun) excuses for what this second leak is supposed to mean:

“There’s a number of misinterpretations and half- thoughts” in the documents, which were not official company minutes, David Tovar, a Wal-Mart spokesman said in a telephone interview.

 

When Simon said things were “getting worse” he was referring to “modular changes,” the process of replenishing merchandise to keep up with customer demand and changing seasons, Tovar said. Wal-Mart is working to “manage this in the most efficient way possible,” he said.

 

“We’re very pleased with our in-stock position,” he said, adding that products audited by the company and its consultants match or exceed historical levels. He declined to disclose what those levels are.

 

Tovar declined to make Simon available for comment

Naturally, following WMT's earnings, which showed that in the fourth quarter all was well, the market promptly forgot the recent "totally disastrous", completely oblivious that February is in the current quarter, and the management is obviously stonewalling the reality facing the retailer.

Yet if indeed there is a major issue affecting the world's most efficient logistical chain, what can other retailers say? And what are the implications for all other global trade routes, both macro and micro? Because if trade, which has been a casualty of central planning for years, is buckling, then is the scenario so vividly described in ""Trade-Off": A Study In Global Systemic Collapse" finally starting to come true?

 

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Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:09 | 3284302 reader2010
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So that's bullish for China?

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:11 | 3284309 The Gooch
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Fuck You Waltons!

 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:13 | 3284312 GMadScientist
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Night, Jon Boy!

Night, Pepina!

Night, Grandpa!

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:21 | 3284324 The Gooch
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I bought a desk lamp from the Waltons in 1993.

I plugged it in and it started on fire.

You reap what you sow, Waltons.

Nowhere to hide, Waltons, et-al.

The ghost of my desk lamp illuminates your every move.

 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:22 | 3284338 UnpatrioticHoarder
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Reminiscent of the last days of the USSR - empty shelves and crap merchandise.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:23 | 3284347 The Gooch
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Would the Pro Wal-Martians please step FOARWARD!


Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:32 | 3284381 TruthInSunshine
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For those who are having trouble finding what they want or need to buy at Walmart, for whatever true reason that's behind this apparent development, just go new vehicle shopping to take your mind off of things, given the incredible strength of Ben Bernanke's 'Virtuously Circular' policy driven economic recovery:

New Cars Increasingly Out of Reach for Growing Number of Americans

Looking to buy a new car, truck or crossover? You may find it more difficult to stretch the household budget than you expected, according to a new study that finds median-income families in only one major U.S. city [fucking parasitic, taxpayer-sucking Washington D.C....whocould'veknowit?] actually can afford the typical new vehicle.


The typical new vehicle is now more expensive than ever, averaging $30,500 in 2012, according to TrueCar.com data, and heading up again as makers curb the incentives that helped make their products more affordable during the recession when they were desperate for sales.

 

According to the 2013 Car Affordability Study by Interest.com, only in Washington could the typical household swing the payments, the median income there running $86,680 a year. At the other extreme, Tampa, Fla., was at the bottom of the 25 large cities included in the study, with a median household income of $43,832.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:35 | 3284395 The Gooch
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Cue HH and the Suburban ad...

(in a good way)

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:57 | 3284463 prains
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I wish I had something smart to say about wal mart but unfortunately they represent the melancholy of the american condition

and as they go so does the american dream, which really for most is a mightmare

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:19 | 3284538 Divided States ...
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Rows of shelves missing merchandise all over the entire store? Are you sure that is a supply chain problem or could it be that the underpaid Walmart employees are now taking merchandise home as part of their 'new method' of being more compensated.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:24 | 3284549 TruthInSunshine
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I have a strong suspicion many retailers aren't re-stocking a very large % of products that they don't think they'll easily sell (at least at a price that would allow them an actual profit).

But this is mere conjecture on my part based on anecdotal observations, conversations and my spider sense, admittedly.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:37 | 3284590 prains
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I'm not sure profit is wal marts problem given the overt wealth the walton family has been able to accrue. Their real problem may be far more insidious

but what the fuck do i know, their chauffeur could buy and sell me like a cheap bangkok trick

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:03 | 3284653 YBNguy
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Clearly why Walmart is for mandatory background checks for all purchases/transfers. They want to tap that private sale market and are throwing a Hail Mary by putting themselves behind Obama. They will reap what they sow.   

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 02:09 | 3284764 Supernova Born
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Empty shelves, empty supply chain?

The tide going out before the tsunami.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 03:37 | 3284869 merizobeach
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It's hard for me to buy things from Wal-Mart because I will never step foot in their fucking stores.  Simple as that.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 06:07 | 3284997 MisterMousePotato
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I noticed the same thing in our local K_Mart this last weekend. Wandering into the electronics section to kill a moment or two while my wife wasted mo-, uh, shopped, I noticed that the camera display had maybe five or six cameras in a display built for, I dunno, thirty? Forty? Too, on the front of the display, below the camera, uh, cameras, there were hooks and stuff to display other products (no idea what), but whatever was supposed to be there, wasn't. I mean, not a single thing hanging there. The rest of the section was also kinda empty. Ten or 15 feet of shelving with four products (HTIB), one of them being an orphaned speaker left over from something, and not for sale.

It was really kinda weird.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 06:49 | 3285033 Moe Howard
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This is not weird. The same thing happened at Kmart when they went bankrupt. The first thing not stocked was electronics.

I suspect Sears/Kmart is soon to go bye bye.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:01 | 3285034 Supernova Born
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"Little Munchkin" Mayor Bloomberg is a HUGE financier of anti-Second Amendment politicians across the USA.

Walmart is a HUGE seller of guns and ammo across the USA.

No tension there.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:31 | 3285083 GetZeeGold
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All the socialists hate Walmart.

 

They shop at Whole Foods cause the CEO is a true Capitalist.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:19 | 3285143 BurningFuld
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Don't get it do you? WalMart is socialism to the extreme. As you think about Walmart, think about the MASSIVE burden they are to the state.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:31 | 3285167 CPL
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Truth.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 11:06 | 3285638 MachoMan
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So could you please tell me how much each walmart employee would cost tax payers if walmart wasn't employing them?  The simple fact is that walmart provides soup lines better than other government leaches (and probably more efficiently/cheaper than the government could).  In short, your analysis leaves much to the imagination given the state itself is nothing but a burden to the people...  this creates cause and effect problems when you begin singling out particular retailers.

There's no doubt that walmart benefits from the fact that there is a social safety net that its employees can receive...  however, relatively speaking, I'm not sure it's different from any of its peers (COSTCO being a glaring exception; although it would be more appropriately compared to sams club than walmart proper)...  If you incentivize rational actors to suck on the teet, they will suck on the teet...  I'm not sure "burden" is the correct term when the state desperately tries to create dependents...  again, cause and effect gets tricky.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:26 | 3285279 jerry_theking_lawler
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i bet it is simply 'managing' inventories to get the desired earnings value.......

 

if you look for short term stock gains, most of the time long term gains will suffer.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:56 | 3285110 unrulian
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i don't know about the rest of the store...ive never seen it, but the ammo case certainly is bare

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 11:08 | 3285666 MachoMan
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The local walmart guys are telling folks when the shipments come in so that everyone has a chance to get guns and ammo instead of the local pawn shops and outdoor shops buying it all up and reselling it.  According to them, the demand is insatiable, but the supply is starting to pick back up.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:26 | 3285158 myptofvu
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I have to shop at WalMart being it is the only store remotely close to me. I've gotten to know some of the employees and Managers, the moral for workers is high and they are quite happy with their jobs and their company. As far as the empty shelves go, my exact words were the same as as in the article "it looks like they're going out of business". My first thought was that is was a resupply problem due to the location being so rural until I discovered that the main distribution hub for the entire state is just down the road from my store lol.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:27 | 3285280 Race Car Driver
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> I have to shop at WalMart...

I junked ya for bein' a bald-faced, filthy liar.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:53 | 3285373 myptofvu
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Okay I don't Have To but it takes me 1/2 hour to drive to Walmart I don't want to drive an additional 20 minutes to another town and in the Summer I do HAVE TO because of the heat here to keep things form melting or spoiling on the drive home. Even going to Walmart I sometimes end up throwing things out because they went bad on the drive home. Okay I don't have to do that because I guess I could buy a big cooler and ice and transport perishables that way but I DONT WANNA.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:23 | 3284689 Navymugsy
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So I'm not the only person who gets depressed as soon as they walk into a Walmart?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:24 | 3285276 Race Car Driver
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I junked ya for goin' to Wal-Mart - and then coming here and whining about it like someone made you do it.

GFY.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 10:20 | 3285446 ejmoosa
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Just can't blame Wal Mart.  Too many mom and pop stores gaves us higher prices and shitty service. 

 

We can get shitty service at a discounted price at Wal-Mart.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 11:07 | 3285657 catacl1sm
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I like to go into Wal-Mart open carrying my sidearm to check for ammo. I rarely come out of there with anything.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 14:03 | 3286518 Temporalist
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Tie a string to a double quarterpouder with cheese or dounts and drag it behind you.  You'll come out of there with something. 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:59 | 3284464 tom a taxpayer
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The hypocritical, parasitic, taxpayer-sucking Washington D.C mofos should pass a law requiring that the only cars sold in D.C. be all electric or get 50 miles to the gallon or be solar or wind-powered. Or, better, cars should be banned from D.C., and the only urban surface transport allowed to be sold are bicycles.

D.C. mofos, stop preaching and start pedaling!

 

 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:28 | 3284567 FeralSerf
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What would they do with all those black Chevrolet Surburbans?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:47 | 3284735 dunce
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Obama ordered his new chief of staff to stop riding his bicycle to work. I do not know if that means that he must take the bus or what. Lord have mercy on us.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:14 | 3284520 Larry Dallas
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The only thing Tampa is good for is herpes and Waffle Houses...

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:43 | 3284605 TruthInSunshine
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And Pill Mills

(Not that the legislative blunt hammer is the correct or even remotely effective tool to "deal" with such matters; history has taught us time & time again that passing legislation and imposing criminal sanctions for supplying or using products that the market craves never succeeds, and merely boosts the profitability of grey and black markets, which coincidentally results in mass violence, wasted taxdollars for futile attempts in enforcement of futile legislation, etc.; as a libertarian and rationalist, we must concede that "if one flaps their arms violently yet neither strikes nor injures any innocent bystander, there is no impetus or logic to use the force of law to address such arm flapping.")

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:33 | 3284711 Common_Cents22
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the only way you get a good deal on a car these days is through a broker/small dealer that agrees to find you a car at the dealer auctions such as Manheim for a fee or directly from the car finance divisions for off-lease vehicles.   =true dealer cost because that's where they get'em.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:43 | 3284729 ghostfaceinvestah
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yup, that is the way to get the best deal - pay wholesale.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:55 | 3284749 Karlus
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I had a dealer license and bought at Manheim. You wont get the deals you think you will. In addition, many of these cars are deliberately dumped because of some inherit flaw. Sure Manheim will sell you 3 day insurance on a buy at huge premium, but good luck.

Best way to buy is mano-y-mano and if its a concern, pay a mechanic the $100 for a check.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:23 | 3285150 CaptainObvious
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I live near the Manheim Auto Auction (which is slowly taking over Manheim acre by acre) and you never get quite the steal you think you're getting.  Many of the cars are beat-up rental cars shipped up from Florida and have rust in places cars should never have rust.  These cars are purchased from the auction by all the local dealers and the prices are jacked up 150%. A lot of drug dealers use Manheim to ship their drugs up from Florida. In my area, you get the best deals from private sellers who bought their cars new, which is how I've purchased cars for the last fifteen years.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 06:08 | 3284998 OldPhart
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Bought a 2013 Kia Forte on Sunday...and I have the credit score of a meth addict.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 11:34 | 3285783 freshfart
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I own a 2012. Don't enjoy lining the pockets of S Korea but at the same time I won't line the pockets of some overpriced shitheap like GM. 

 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:54 | 3285202 caShOnlY
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New Cars Increasingly Out of Reach for Growing Number of Americans

All you have to do is look to our great friend and trading partner to the north:  8 years car loans, 5 year leases.  Where else can a ex - Sri Lankan goat farmer buy a Lexus while working at Pizza Pizza?    Eventually GM will introduce the "new 120 month GM value loan". 

Did anyone ever notice that Canada, population LESS than Californina, is our Number 1 great friend and trading partner and has more wealth per person than the U.S.?  It has the 11 largest economy on the PLANET!!.    Don't tell the 48 million on food stamps that NAFTA wasn't good for them!!!!   

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:53 | 3285371 CheapBastard
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Sales must stink since I see a puckup commercial every 3 minutes on TV for that 420000 ton truck that every proud American NEEDS to own. I'm holding on to my ten-year-old jalopy until Barry hands out "free" cash for clunkers again (limited to GM vehicles only).

 

No way i"m buying another one now because...

 

I'm a Cheap Bastard !

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 15:21 | 3286960 sgt_doom
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Outstanding comments, Truth, outstanding!

Of course, that was the game plan all along, with the dismantling of the consumer-based economy (top 15% account for the vast majority of that 70% consumption figure always bandied about - which Robert Reich, that mental pipsqueek never gets???) and their replacement of a fantasy finance-based "economy" - - only employing around 7.8% of the existing workforce (and they will end up offshoring most of those jobs, 'natch!), the long-range design was to reduce the majority of each country to serfs, while selling to the wealthier typies around the planet, and employing small numbers from each existing middle-class around the planet --- their globalization plan/WTO/privatization agenda.

Appears to be working great for them, not too well for the rest of us serfs, though!

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:35 | 3284563 BLOTTO
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Soon afterwards, Sam Walton joined the military in the U.S. Army Intelligence Corps,

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Walmart 'sun' logo = Hagall rune?

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The Hagall rune was widely used in the SS for its symbolic representation of "unshakeable faith" in Nazi philosophy, as Himmler put it.[7] It was used in SS weddings as well as on the SS-Ehrenring (death's head ring) worn by members of the SS. It is roughly similar to the ? or Haglaz rune of the Younger Futhark, which stood for "hail", but it was modified by von List for his Armanen runes. List considered it to be the "mother rune" of his runic alphabet and envisaged it as a representation of a hexagonal crystal

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_insignia_of_the_Schutzstaffel

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They follow a different set of law based on sacred geometry, astrology and numerology. 

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Occult shit show

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:02 | 3284650 HondaFullOfSilver
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Sure, why not? I like WalMart and I like the fact that these guys have their eyes open.  I absolutely hate it when I had meetings and the PM was congratulating some vendor for barely (or not) getting some job done on time..  They did it every week, why the hell could they get right?  No, not "great job" - how about "why do you keep screwing up, how many of these have you done?"  These guys see their issues and I suspect are working to address them.  It's crappy out there, why sugar coat it?  Walmarts primary customers have experienced a world of hurt over the last few years, and I do not see that abating.

In short, seeing the problem is the first step.  I can turn on MSNBC and see denial anytime.

 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:58 | 3284467 Go Tribe
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Big gaps in the ammo department.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:26 | 3284559 WayBehind
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Big gaps? There is no ammo at all since December. Same for firearms for those stores that still sell them. 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:47 | 3284736 McMolotov
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Speaking of gaps...

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:29 | 3285162 CaptainObvious
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The secret to buying ammo at Chinamart is being there before the order is being put in the ammo cabinet and buying the limit of each caliber that you need.  As Iceland proved, be the first in line and you do the best. ;)

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 11:12 | 3285691 MachoMan
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Yep...  and the easiest way to find out is to do the unthinkable...  just ask the guy at the counter.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 02:03 | 3284767 Bunga Bunga
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Do not worry. Empty shelves are a normal symptom of central planning.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:35 | 3284385 Groundhog Day
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i bought a electric pencil sharpner for my son and the pencil broke the sharpner.  Made in china.

I still have a stapler and a hp 12c that works perfect which was made in USA decades ago 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:38 | 3284405 The Gooch
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The Groundhog lied. All The Ned Scenes

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:12 | 3284511 prains
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Hog Day

the question to ask is in who's best interest is it to make something that either works or lasts. Not in the chinese nor american interest.

how do either make money otherwise?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

it's all bout the money for both regimes

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:13 | 3284518 NoDebt
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Funny.  I bought a can opener from them and the 5th or 6th can I put in it broke it!  Made in China, too, of course.  I am now/still using the old manual can opener I bought in COLLEGE 20+ YEARS AGO.  I'm just done buying crap.  I can twist a handle and open a can, still.  I'm not old an infirmed yet.

In related news, my brother gave me an old "John Wayne" can opener recently like you saw in the old Westerns.  I tried using it but it wasn't going very well at first.  Then he explained to me that you need to "nibble" it FORWARD along the edge of the can as you go, not BACKWARD as you might think you should, just looking at it.  Low and behold!  An open can! 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 02:42 | 3284813 Dave Thomas
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Try a P-38 some time, you actually nibble it at yourself. Pretty cool.

http://stuffmenlike.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/p38-can-opener.jpeg

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 05:40 | 3284982 Acet
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Oldie but goodie.

 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 06:53 | 3285036 Moe Howard
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I miss those c-rats p38s and cigarettes. Nothing like smoking a 8 year old Chesterfield.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 18:54 | 3287986 STP
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Yep, C-rats ruled when I was in the USMC (77-81).  Loved the cheese and crackers, the ham meal and the chocolate disks!  We used to use the boxes they came in, too heat them up and then when it got cold at night, we'd burn the big boxes they came in!

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:27 | 3284698 Oldrepublic
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I have been in a number of countries, I notice that the quality and price of various Chinese made products depends on the country where the Chinese are selling to. Maybe the Chinese are sending lower grade stuff now to the US, treating it like some poor third world state

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 04:07 | 3284898 Divine Wind
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DING DING DING DING DINGGGGGG.

We have a winner !!!!

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 05:39 | 3284981 geekgrrl
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I think your powers of observation serve you well.

Mark Shapiro wrote a book in 2007 called "Exposed: The Toxic Chemistry of Everyday Products and What's at Stake for American Power," and he pointed out that the Chinese have different assembly lines for EU versus American destination. The EU, of course, has all sorts of sensible restrictions on toxic chemicals, but here in the good ole US, not so much. Turns out we are the new toxic waste dump of the world. See, most people thought we were outsourcing our pollution due to production, but in fact, we're importing it due to consumption.

 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 05:55 | 3284991 Acet
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I've once had a small company that imported consumer electronics from China.

The basic rules with Chinese manufacturers is pretty simple: the quality of the goods you get is proportional to the contractual power you have over them (i.e. your ability to withold payment and/or extend the carrot of further profitable business later) and how much QA you do yourself before accepting delivery.

Also, judging by the innards of some of the devices I was sellling, chinese manufacturers avoid having proper, tight fitted designs where everything snugs together well so that they can more easilly change component suppliers (For example, the case of one of our devices was internally not designed to tightly hold in place the LCD display component, which was instead kept in place with adesive, so a common fault was an LCD display which was out of place. However, on the side of the manufacturer, not having a case which is a perfect match to the LCD display component allows changing suppliers for one or the other and even to have different designs fit the same case).

So it's not a question of the Chinese choosing to sell better or worse stuff to specific countries, it's a question of the buying companies in those countries choosing to spend more money and demand better quality from their Chinese suppliers or not.

Or in other words, if Walmart's products suck, that's because Walmart doesn't give a shit about the quality of the products they contract to have manufactured in China.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 14:21 | 3286604 e-recep
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it is not the sender who decides what will be dispatched. it's the buyer. the buying agents in US assess the purchasing power of the consumer and shop accordingly. and that means the american consumer prefers cheap even if the quality lacks.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:58 | 3284469 bonzo112358
Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:28 | 3284365 Scro
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Goodnight Johnboy.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:18 | 3284532 SF beatnik
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One happy Walmart shopper with few complaints. Big quality drop the next rung down to the dollar stores.  Not all of us can shop at Nordstrom's.

But there is lots of empty space on the Walmart store's shelves at the one nearby (Pinole, CA)... lots of items missing in action. 

BTW, I stopped at Big Five, today.  It's all sold out of  .357, .22 LR, and 9 mm. Clerk says the last shipment never even arrived. Wow.  The Feds need .22? 

 

 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:45 | 3284612 Ms. Erable
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Find out when they receive their shipments; you'll probably have to wait in line a couple of hours before they open on that day to get anything. I did this on Monday, 2nd person in line at 8:15am, and bought one of the TWO boxes of .22LR they received, along with 2 of the 6 boxes of .40S&W. Their entire shipment (admittedly not very much, and included zero .223) was in customers' hands by the time I checked out.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:07 | 3285052 Room 101
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That's just the thing, though. The price difference between walton mart and other more competently run and clean stores isn't that significant.  I'm not talking nordstroms, I'm talking target, costco, safeway, kroger, etc. And when you add in the cost/time for multiple trips because waltonmart doesn't have what you need in stock or the 20 plus minutes to check out, it's a false economy. And there are cheaper places to buy stuff. Aldi for example.

For folks who buy on ebt and have all the time in the world on their hands, waltonmart is fine. The 1 FRN they save is 1 more FRN.

Fuck you bernanke.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:30 | 3284704 JuicedGamma
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Fuck you Bernanke

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 03:52 | 3284882 Spigot
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Gratuitous, but fun none the less. :)

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:00 | 3284473 Shizzmoney
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China can just print more money....or just wait for the Federal Reserve Note to crash and then back their currency with Gold.

The Dollars aren't the only thing leaking at WMT:

Woman says iPad she bought from Wal-Mart was fake:

http://www.wcvb.com/news/money/Woman-says-iPad-she-bought-at-Walmart-was...

The only thing faker is Wal-mart's stock price!

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 01:33 | 3284709 CPL
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Google fake ipad walmart and you'll send when the supply disruptions happened.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:27 | 3284565 rotagen
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Gee, ya think maybe this has more to do with the fact that our local walmarts are a joke now, they have about 1/8 the inventory they used to have, and they converted to some LOUSY food market with Terrible unripe produce, very little hobby or sport equipment, just GARBAGE.

 

And they stopped selling guns, which flew off the shelves of every gun store after the staged shooting event and that ass-hat, puppet, barney fife called obama started extending the doomed to fail police state,  

 

Serves em right,

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:33 | 3284581 The Heart
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Maybe china gots bigger prize on mind.

From ze far away past woman no go.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrqG8VBcJRc&feature=endscreen

 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:11 | 3284307 suteibu
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So, is this the first signs of a supply chain breakdown?

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:30 | 3284374 max2205
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No bread for your

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:28 | 3284564 akak
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Come back, one year!

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 03:23 | 3284857 bigkahuna
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I was expecting a petro crisis of some sort to cause the supply chain interruption. Instead, we have a Chinese gadget shortage and an ammo shortage. Everyone knows why the ammo is gone (insane politicians) - but the Chinese gadgets?

I noticed my grocery store was completely out of eggs and fresh garlic and extremely low on milk yesterday. It was fine today, but I have never seen the eggs run out before. 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:40 | 3284413 CPL
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Yes, from swords to plough shares if you want to eat.  As I've mentioned in the past, keep the cupboards full, lots of seed and have tradables on hand.

There are other things a foot.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:53 | 3284454 TBT or not TBT
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And board games. Monopoly money on the other hand will be in big supply

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:09 | 3284493 The Gooch
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The color and the hue of FRN's conveniently match the color and the hue of Monopoly money, in case you haven't noticed.

(by denomination)

It will make for great kindling.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 03:24 | 3284858 bigkahuna
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Good insulation too.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:09 | 3284503 CPL
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Like Anne of Green Gables with better things than hoop and stick or the wildly popular ball and cup.  The tech now is so easy to stamp we won't lose all of it, just most of it.  

 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:53 | 3284453 Bad Attitude
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I've been seeing spot shortages of some items at Walmart for the past four years. The supply chain problem may be worse now, but it is not new. (Yes, I do buy some food at Walmart - I just shop carefully.) The end result is that I try to keep a larger inventory of consumable items at home to manage the spot shortages.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:10 | 3284505 CPL
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Use cash for such purposes.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:14 | 3284524 Nehweh Gahnin
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Ouch!  Was that admission worth that post?  Dude...

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 02:25 | 3284793 zhandax
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I have pretty much given up on fresh food at WM, or even many staples.  Amazon sells huge bags of non-GMO basmati rice from India, quart to gallon jugs of dehydrated veggies, wine must for fermenting, three pound bags of mustard seed for homemade stone-ground mustard, with no lard-asses in scooters to dodge.  For fresh (sometimes exotic) veggies or live/frozen seafood, it is hard to beat some of the international markets here in town.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 02:47 | 3284817 Dave Thomas
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Shopping at Wally World now days is more of an *AHEM* security issue nowadays where I live.

Never a good idea to frequent places sporting throngs of folks with low impulse control what have you.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 06:57 | 3285039 Moe Howard
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I see more Mexicans in Walmart than I did in Tulum.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:27 | 3285281 Bad Attitude
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At my neighborhood Walmart, security has always been an issue. First, don't shop after dark. Second, don't go unarmed. Third, be very aware of surroundings.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:11 | 3285056 StychoKiller
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[quote] "We run out quickly and the new stuff doesn’t come in," U.S. Chief Executive Officer Bill Simon said, according to the minutes of the Feb. 1 meeting.

[/quote]

 

BDI has leveled off at around 750...

Cain't put stuff on shelves what's still overseas!

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:11 | 3284308 The Axe
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only the 85 billion a month Ben pumps in the market matters....nothing else   

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:12 | 3284311 GMadScientist
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Well its certainly not for lack of shipping capacity.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:11 | 3284507 CPL
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No it's not.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 14:57 | 3286782 e-recep
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too many ships are idling. baltic dry is still crawling at all-time lows.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:14 | 3284313 otto skorzeny
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bad karma from letting Biden bitch slap them on the guns and ammo.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:30 | 3284576 The Gooch
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and selling Chinese fireworks disguised as appliances.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:15 | 3284315 Cdad
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Business is so bad, there are no customers, and now no product either.  Well...that's just swell.

You have done the heavy lifting in the "financial news" realm these last two days, Tyler...much obliged. 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:18 | 3284323 401-Kulak
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Where will the People of Walmart go?

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:20 | 3284328 otto skorzeny
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where are all of the SNAP/EBT users going to go now-Whole Foods?

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:35 | 3284392 Dixie Rect
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Where will we go to watch obese women beat their kids?

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:52 | 3284449 akak
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Well, there's always the local NASCAR track ....

 

The Walmart ladies sing this song,
Doo-da, Doo-da
Walmart checkout's five miles long
Oh, de doo-da day

Goin' to buy all night
Goin' to buy all day
Spent my EBT on cheap chink crap
Spent that fucker right away.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:13 | 3284519 otto skorzeny
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you mean everybody pays more in taxes this year so ASSCAR can get a $250 million tax break because the hillbillies that used to attend now can't afford it-that ASSCAR?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:06 | 3284492 TBT or not TBT
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Verbal abuse is the worst. The entire effect of beating someone can be reversed by changing the wording and tonal qualities and nothing else.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:20 | 3284541 Anusocracy
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Home?

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:25 | 3284355 GMadScientist
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Large misshapen coffins, in short order.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:40 | 3284414 Missiondweller
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Dollar Store?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:09 | 3284498 Orly
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I used to be practically the only person getting food items from the dollar store.  Now, you can't even move in the food aisles.

The 99 Cent Stores have great spices, by the way.  No preservatives, all natural.  What you'd pay five dollars for (at least...) in the regular supermarket, I get for a buck.

:D

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:52 | 3284629 Teamtc321
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Can you buy chicken breast there for free since food inflation is under control?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 04:06 | 3284897 francis_sawyer
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Orly's clearly been buying the chicken bullion cubes & carving tits out of them...

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:58 | 3284642 RockyRacoon
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My nearest dollar store just installed freezers at the rear of the store.  Not much nutrition there but I think it's a beginning.  More veggies than ice cream showing up gradually.  I get soy milk for $1 a quart -- same as the Kroger store next door gets over $3 for.   I've stocked up on lots of stuff "just in case" as well as some easy to trade things like tools and hygiene items.   One never knows...

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:40 | 3285321 skipjack
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Soy milk ?  You mean GMO milk, don't you ?  Abt 96% of all soybeans grown in the US are GMO.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:15 | 3285060 ISEEIT
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I'm so curious as to why anyone would feel the desire to 'down' such an innocuous comment as yours Orly? Maybe they think you're stupid for buying the crap at the dollar store? If you're thrifty or just poor why would that be offensive?

WTF?

 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:26 | 3285159 uno
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be very careful about things labeled 'natural'.  Times have changed, it use to be similar to organic, not anymore with the GMO-era, very misleading label now.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 16:48 | 3287467 monad
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Grow your own spices. Fresh is best, have nutrition lost by drying, herbicide, fungicide, insecticide, Monsantocide and liberal statists relieving themselves on the line. Not to mention rogue cells of population reduction enthusiasts. Keep the garlic away from everything else.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:45 | 3284609 Bandit und Buster
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Stock up also on Vitamin C which is anti-biotic, non-toxic at ANY dose, anti-viral, anti-bacterial.  Especially Lypo-spheric Vit C. Best price for it at www.thegreenpharmacy.com  5-6 times more potent than reg pills/caps. 

 

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:18 | 3284325 sangell
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Less stuff on display, less stuff for the 'customers' to steal.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:21 | 3284332 walcott
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stay away from all of their lunch meat brands. 100% salted crap. Hear attack food the stuff sux!

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:26 | 3284357 GMadScientist
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stay away from all of their brands. 100% crap. Hear the stuff sux!

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:00 | 3284475 kareninca
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Actually if you subscribe to Consumer Lab (they do a huge amount of testing, and they are cited all over the place) you will find that Walmart's vitamins and supplements (e.g. fish oil) contain what they claim to contain, and are not contaminated.  And that is not true of all supplement sources, by any means.

Also, they carry name brand foods, e.g. Bush's baked beans.  The cans sold at Walmart appear to have the same ingredients as those sold at Safeway, at much lower prices.  Not that I'm recommending them per se (my husband loves them).  But if you're going to buy regular crap food, their national brands are as good a source as any. 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:30 | 3284570 akak
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But if you're going to buy regular crap food, their national brands are as good a source as any.

WalMart thanks you for that ringing endorsement.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 02:38 | 3284810 zhandax
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There are a few things I still buy at WM, and one of them is worcestershire sauce.  I am fairly certain their house brand is made by Lea and Perrins (identical ingredient list in exact same order).

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 03:53 | 3284883 object_orient
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How much of that stuff could you possibly go through?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 04:15 | 3284904 Divine Wind
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OO,

I bust out laughing when I read your comment.

Frickin hysterical.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 04:45 | 3284926 Zero-risk bias
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Hope it wasn't much in 2005, (if you remember the toxic chilli powder contamination).

http://encycl.opentopia.com/term/Worcestershire_sauce

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 03:42 | 3284872 Miffed Microbio...
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Take a sample of the fish oil and place it on some styrofoam. Wait 15 min and see what happens. If the styrofoam melts then the fish oil is worthless and unabsorbable to the human body. To decontaminate fish oil they must process it to a point where, I believe, it remains in a reduced state. To return it to its original state is another very expensive process and rarely is done. Very few fish oils are good. It may take a lot of trials to find a good one. I used to do blood analysis on people who took vitamins. Some popped numerous pills of cheap store bought brands and Centrum. They barely ever achieved detectable vitamin levels in their serum. The only people who had good profiles were those who ate high quality diets and/ or ate FOOD based not synthetic chemical vitamins. Unfortunately food based are extremely expensive. So if you don't want to spend that kind of money don't take any vitamins. Believe me you just shitting and pissing it down the toilet. Just my 2 cents.

Miffed;-)

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 04:14 | 3284899 kareninca
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Thanks for the input.

I agree that for many people, food is the way to go.  However, I'm an ethical vegan ALMOST.  Alas, I can't get by without a little fish oil; I just can't; it makes a huge difference.  I refuse to eat fish; I feel sorry for them.  I can at least tell myself that the fish oil is made out of fish eyeballs and toenails and other unwanted parts.

If you can suggest something that has the same effects as fish oil, that is vegan, I would be most appreciative.  Walnuts do not work for me; nor does flax.  Krill is not vegan.

Also (per James Greenblatt's book on depression), I convinced a 72 y.o. neighbor to take zinc, magnesium citrate, and B12.  He has supposedly great medical care, but he was going downhill in a terrible, terrible way.  His doctors told him well, that's old age, get a cane. It's made a huge difference, in just under two weeks; he's not dizzy anymore and he's way less weak.  (Don't worry;he's a tenured professor at a top three university; I'm not poisoning an ignoramus; he's just desperate, and between us we determined that this is a harmless thing to try.)

Is it really certain that the levels of vitamins in serum have to be high, for there to be an effect?  I thought that there was vanishingly little data here, because there is no money in testing the results of vitamin trials.  So one has to note things like the fact that suicide/murder rates are much lower in the towns in Texas and Japan, that have more lithium naturally occurring in their water.

I would LOVE your opinion re the Greenblatt book.  It's all based on clinical trials.

I'd also love your opinion of Emily Dean's articles; she's an M.D. who blogs and who has articles in Psychology Today.  Here's a sample of her blog writing re zinc supplementation:  http://evolutionarypsychiatry.blogspot.com/2010/07/zinc-and-depression.h....  She gives every impression of knowing what she is talking about.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 05:01 | 3284943 Miffed Microbio...
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Hi karen and thanks for the reply. I ran the vitamin assays when I worked for a company called Pantox (panel of antioxidants) which is no longer in business. It was formed by a man who was a Salk Institute researcher in the San Diego area. Over a 10 year period he did extensive blood analysis on 4000 people who were deemed the healthiest at the time. I ran HPLC on there serum checking tocopherols, retinol, coQ10, lycopene, all essential amino acids, selenium and basic chemistries. We then compared people against these 4000 and gave them a report what percentile their blood fell. There was no " high or low". So if a person was in the 99 th percentile in beta carotenoids the report would suggest they take less. Working there changed my view on taking vitamins. We analyzed blood from people all over the world and I got to the point where I could recognize what country the people were from without seeing names. Retinol, tocopherol, beta carotene were all detectable in Asians with out supplementation. I always could spot Americans because they were almost always flat lined, even with supplementation. The people doing this gave lists of foods and vitamins they took so I could see the results. I must tell you, unfortunately, vegans were often the worst. Their antioxidants and blood chemistries were
often stellar but their amino acid profiles were often poor. Due to this I really would recommend you supplement with fish and or cod liver oil. Believe me you don't need much. I did note the younger vegans had better panels then the old. Perhaps one doesn't absorb nutrients as well as one ages. I know this is more a religious issue that a scientific one. You, of course must make that choice and I for one would never want to advise someone in such matters. I'm just telling you what I saw.

Omega 3 and depression is strongly linked now and Ameicans are severely deficient. I do take flax, krill and eat walnuts. Animal based Omega 3 is considered the best because it has better absorbability but if you chemically analyze them they are the same. B12 in pill form is unabsorbable, this is why vegans are often given shots. You certainly aren't doing anything IMHO that would hurt you neighbor. Vitamin deficiencies are so common in the elderly it may be the case. However, I would rule out anything obvious by doing a complete basic blood panel, CBC, chemistries. It can be risky to randomly supplement fat soluble vits ( except vit D).
I will check out your references because I'm not familiar with them. I'm always interested in learning more and am very happy when people as yourself share their knowledge and experiences. Best health to you!

Miffed;-)

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 05:30 | 3284974 kareninca
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Thank you for answering, Miffed.

One thing I could not figure out from your reply:  WERE people who had higher serum levels of various nutrients, healthier?  The researcher you worked with tested 4000 healthy people, and found out their levels.  Were they different from the levels of less healthy people?  Or didn't the data go that far?

My neighbor lives on breakfast cereal, milk, and TV dinners.  Pretty bad, and I don't see it changing.  I really think his levels of one of those supplements were so incredibly low, that it mattered.  RE a blood panel  -  it's harder than you'd think to get an HMO doctor to do that sort of thing.  A lot harder.  They don't listen to this guy at all.  And he's so depressed and weak that he doesn't have the spirit to push the matter (although like I said, things are better now).  I think more people will be in this situation in the future; low on nutrients, no access to tests, and too wretched to do much about it.

Do you think that krill oil is as effective as fish oil?  What would you guess is the lowest reasonable amount to take?  What is your own animal based Omega 3 intake?

Also, just for the fun of it, google "creatine depression", and check out the Science Daily article.  There is vegetable-sourced creatine.

thanks again,

:)karen

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 09:38 | 3285314 tip e. canoe
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karen, check out purslane for a plant-based source of Omega-3s.   super easy to grow as well, most people consider it a "weed".    best tasting when it's pickled, which also makes the nutrients more accessible.

http://www.eattheweeds.com/purslane-omega-3-fatty-weed/

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 19:12 | 3288057 kareninca
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I've eaten purslane, from my garden plot!!!  It is incredibly tasty.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 15:05 | 3286839 Miffed Microbio...
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Karen, Dr T the researcher I worked for was constantly editing his panel of 4000 which contained people like marathoners, sports figures, famed nutritionists. I was never allowed to know the names for privacy issues but he did tell me many famous people were included. If a person on the list got cancer or some chronic illness their profile would be removed from the data base. This way he hoped his panel would be the most represented of health as the years went on. When he retired at 76 at his wife's insistence the profile was about 15 years old. We were hoping he would sell the company but their was no one who saw the value in it so he told all of us to find jobs and when the last person did he shut the door. I'm assuming he destroyed the work.

You neighbor is eating a recipe for disaster and is probably deficient in every thing imaginable. Anything you do for this guy would be a plus. I would get him a bottle of food based vits from a company like Garden of Life( I know, cost is HIGH) raw coconut oil 1TBSP/ day, krill oil. I like krill oil best because it has low contamination and least damage to the environment ( lowest on the food chain and replenishes quickly) a vegan as yourself may find this more palatable rather than killing a higher order animal like a fish? Studies I've read look good. I take 2 tsp of Carson's fish oil per day for 6 months and then switch to 2 tsp of cod liver oil for the next 6 months. I take 1 capsule / day of krill ( I'm on vacation and don't have access to the bottle so I can't tell you the mg amount) I uses to pop Advil and aleve before I did this. I assumed I was just getting older and because I workout, this was the price. I rarely ever need NSAIDs now. I do also take a product called Natural Calm which stopped my leg cramps at night (magnesium citrate). My access to Internet on this trip is a bit spotty so it make take a while to respond. I get back to the states march 3 may be we can exchange email?

Miffed:-)

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 19:10 | 3288048 kareninca
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Yes, he's a mess.  It just goes to show that having education and money aren't sufficient to get you health.  He's actually married, and his wife doesn't work (she's retired, but hadn't worked much in decades), but she doesn't like to cook and considers it beneath her.  I'm in no way into fixed gender roles, but given that he's still employed, I think she could damn well make him a salad.

I will try to figure out how to set up the contact thing here, so we can communicate.  I like old fashioned (!) email best; maybe that will be possible.

Yes!!!!  Magnesium citrate for restless legs!!!!  Yes!!!  I've had luck with that, too!!!

:)karen 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 06:58 | 3285041 Binko
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I can relate to your dilemna. I too am an ethical vegan in heart. But I've concluded that the human body needs omega 3 fats to function at it's best and I'm not willing to compromise my health. The simplest solution is to just eat a couple of cans of sardines a week. Fry them up with a ton of garlic. Unfortunately, walnuts and flax and other vegetarian sources are just not the same.

Another solution is to find a local source of eggs from hens that actually walk around in the grass and eat bugs like hens are supposed to. This will also give you essential fatty acids. 

We want to be vegan so we can be kind and avoid doing harm to other living creatures. But it's not worth destroying our health. The best solution in my opinion is to try to maximize your health while doing the least harm possible. 

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:29 | 3285073 kareninca
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Yes, from the beginning (17 1/2 years of being nearly vegan), I held the view that if it were a choice between me and the fish, it would be me.  But I was hoping to not have to go that way.

I find that fish oil capsules work fine; two a day.  I imagine that Miffed is likely right, and that they aren't the greatest source, but I find them more appealing.  It's not really rational, I know; the same amount of dead fish is required to produce the same amount of omega 3 in the case of capsules as in the case of sardines.

If you're nearly vegan, you may need selenium.  And do check the creatine study!!!!!!

One thing that the Greenblatt book addresses is the problem of having too low a cholesterol level.  Levels under a certain point lead to a MASSIVELY increased risk of violent death.  You won't have a heart attack, but you may well crash you car.  The vegan solution looks to be coconut products, and other saturated vegetable fats.  It was really weird; for years I craved ramen.  But I told myself that that was a stupid thing to eat; no-one eats ramen if they can help it.  Then I read re cholesterol levels, and it made sense.  Who would have thought palm oil (not hydrogenated, and skipping the soup packet) could be life enhancing.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:19 | 3285066 gratefultraveller
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Hello Karen,

you might want to check out 'hemp hearts', peeled hemp seeds, apparently they contain the perfect balance of Omega-3 and Omega-6 oils (plus heaps of other goodies).

Someone in another forum suggested he bought his stuff from Europe, as only over here he can source it non-irradiated. Not sure about that, however I have since started to use them, together with Chia seeds, and find they make a great addition to my diet.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 07:26 | 3285077 kareninca
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Thank you, grateful traveller  -  I will look into that!

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:56 | 3284461 Larry Dallas
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Anyone who buys food from Wal-Mart will get cancer soon.

By their own choosing.

Talk about discount GMO shit.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:21 | 3284333 JR
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This is corporate espionage. And clearly the vast financial empire of Bloomberg is attacking Wal-Mart. The reasons: Wal-Mart’s strong independence from the inner-circle bankers, its gun sales, its labor practices, its desire to be banker independent and its powerful competition against the corporate favorites.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:27 | 3284361 GMadScientist
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Thanks for the chuckle, but they wrote the memos.

Wed, 02/27/2013 - 23:42 | 3284418 JR
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I am disappointed that you are taking the side of the tyrant. Please try to understand that Bloomberg is not a news source. It is the voice of the banking cartel; it is an empire that flourishes on insider connections. And when it releases selective information, this information is reported to cause damage to a competitor of its inner circle favorites. Your position is not an admirable one for you are siding with the rising tyranny of the banking cartel and its corporate, banker-backed control over America.

How can you live with yourself?

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:02 | 3284479 WillyGroper
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WhaleMart wanted/or did get into the mortgage business thru Arvest they're banking arm. They charge $3 to cash a payroll check. They've run EVERY ma & pa storefront out of business. 

We're suppose to feel sorry for them for a strategic business miscalculation in taking on the WS banksters?

Fuck 'em & feed 'em the fish heads we're all fixin to eat, if we get those.  

They built a supercenter 3 mi from my house. There's nothing I'd like better than to see tumbleweeds. I don't relish being that close to one in a SHTF scenario.

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 00:17 | 3284530 otto skorzeny
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sometime when I'm moseying through the aisles at sam's club I fantasize about how much power I would have in a SHTF situation if I controlled one of those warehouse places full of stuff. wifey thinks i am crazy

Thu, 02/28/2013 - 08:26 | 3285156 GMadScientist
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Wifey's onto something.

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