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Guest Post: Is There Oil In 'Kryzakhstan'? Ask John Kerry

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Submitted by Jen Alic of,

It wasn’t exactly a propitious start for new US Secretary of State John Kerry on his first foreign trip when he referred to “Kyrzakhstan”, where US diplomats are ostensibly working to secure “democratic institutions”.

Getting all those Central Asian “stans” right can be confusing—even more so when things get muddled in the “Great Game”. And it’s no easy thing following in the footsteps of Hillary Clinton.

Later—after the State Department took the liberty of omitting the mention of “Kyrzakhstan” from the official transcript—it became clear that Kerry was actually referring to Kyrgyzstan (not Kazakhstan and indeed not Kyrzakhstan).

So let’s look at these two countries that Kerry has inadvertently combined.

Kyrgyzstan is a landlocked country of 5.5 million people which has undergone revolution and reverse revolution since 2005 and “democratic institutions” are embryonic at best. It’s extremely poor and the recipient of massive amounts of US aid, thanks to its willingness to cooperate in the global war on terror. Kyrgyzstan is important to Washington because it’s also a staging ground for a US-Russian struggle to see who can gain the most influence over Bishkek.

Kazakhstan, on the other hand, is an oil-rich nuclear power that was oddly enough the choice of venue for P5+1 talks with Iran over the latter’s (not to be confused with the former’s) nuclear program. 

Perhaps this added to Kerry’s confusion—indeed it is some heavy symbolism that had some asking why dictatorial Kazakhstan is allowed to have a nuclear program, while Iran is not. In the 1990s, this former Soviet Republic won praise for relinquishing a massive nuclear stockpile (more than a thousand strategic nuclear warheads and 370 nuclear-tipped cruise missiles) in the name of nonproliferation. Washington was hoping Tehran would recall this and take note of the message—though the message remains somewhat unclear as Iran does not have nuclear weapons. The message was further muddled by earlier suspicions that Kazakhstan may have actually been “proliferating” to Iran.

Now Kazakhstan is hoping to make some cash by becoming a “host” for nuclear reactor fuel so that countries (like Iran) wouldn’t have to enrich uranium themselves. Of course, one might also ask whether we want Kazakhstan to serve as a nuclear reactor fuel bank.

On the nuclear front, no one is quite convinced that Kazakhstan should be a nuclear power. It’s not exactly a beacon of democracy, either. Its leader Nursultan Nazarbayev can only very loosely be said to have been democratically elected, and he is continually propped up by Western governments and oil interests.

He is referred to fondly as the “Sultan of the Steppes” and is almost as colorful as the late Turkmenbashi (the revered “father” of Turkmenistan whose cult of personality was unrivaled even by the likes of North Korea’s late Kim Jong-il). While the Turkmenbashi even went as far as to change the names of the months to concepts that reflected his love for his mother, the Sultan of the Steppes creates holidays in honor of himself and sets himself up as the lead character in fairy tale plays and movies for the nation to enjoy.

He is not only tolerated but courted heavily because of the country’s oil wealth. US investors have a major stake in its Kashagan field, which has around 5.4 trillion tons of oil and 1.7 trillion tons recoverable—not to mention a handful of other major fields with oil, condensate and natural gas reserves.

In late October, the US and Kazakhstan signed a Joint Action Plan to promote cooperation in nuclear security and nuclear power, hydrocarbon resources, renewable energy, energy efficiency and electric power. Underpinning this US-Kazakh relationship are pipeline plans. The US is hoping that Kazakhstan will channel all its oil and gas exports through Turkey (as opposed to Iran). But Kazakhstan has many interests—and they include burgeoning relations with China (which is particularly gunning for the country’s uranium deposits) and efforts to ensure Russia that all is well between Moscow and Astana, too.

And then we have Kyrgyzstan, which pales by comparison and would probably benefit from being lumped together in a contrived country of “Kyrzakhstan”. It has a bit of oil and gas, and a bit of gold, but overall relies on imports to most of its energy needs. On the border with China, and part of Russia’s old Soviet backyard—as well as a transit point for stuff going in and out of Afghanistan for NATO—it has some strategic importance. But a lack of Western effort here to prop up any single leadership figure has meant that the country is languishing without an effective government since the short-lived “Tulip Revolution” in 2005, which ousted president Askar Akayev. No one rushed to help him because he doesn’t have oil wealth to back him up. Widespread poverty and north-south ethnic divisions keep the violence simmering. 

Kerry is in the middle of a European/Middle East tour right now. We’ll see what other countries he manages to contrive.


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Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:43 | 3292605 otto skorzeny
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I'm sure East Coast Elite Kerry loves having to break bread with these Steppes Trash.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:48 | 3292615 hedgeless_horseman
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Still, he is pretty smart for a horse.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:52 | 3292633 otto skorzeny
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smart enough to marry big money

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:16 | 3292694 john39
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They met at a coven get together.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:33 | 3292825 Rusty Diggins
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The fictional novel Absurdistan comes really close to capturing the true beauty of this corner of the globe. 

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:53 | 3292845 Manthong
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Are there any service medals for stapler or paper cut injuries in the line of duty in the State Department?

Kerry has probably qualified for at least three by now.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:36 | 3292905 iDealMeat
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+1. Thx for keeping it real.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 06:26 | 3293056 Wile-E-Coyote
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Haa ha all the low hanging fruit is gone. CIA now pissing in Russia's back yard. This will get interesting. I reckon the carrier fleet must be in port to get wheels fitted, these new oppressed States of interest are very much landlocked.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 13:20 | 3293556 post turtle saver
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Cruise missiles don't need wheels.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 15:00 | 3293645 Manthong
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Little known story is that John Kerry and Camilla Parker Bowles had a love child some years ago..

The offspring had a short gig in TV but went to work for Taco Bell and hasn’t been heard from since.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 21:35 | 3294565 Stackers
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John Kerry - the only person dumber than Joe Biden to hold a seat in the U.S. Senate.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 00:49 | 3294819 merizobeach
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I hope someone murders your dumbass on one of your unwelcome visits.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:53 | 3293300 New_Meat
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"Are there any service medals for stapler or paper cut injuries..."

Of course there are!  He'd probably rate the "Purple Cross", he's too senior for the  "Purple Owie".

- Ned

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:38 | 3292748 LeisureSmith
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Ketchup and horsemeat. Not my kind of chow. Scull & bones makes for crappy stock.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:30 | 3293453 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
Sat, 03/02/2013 - 14:26 | 3293671 cosmictrainwreck
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now, that's some funny shit...... ha

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:48 | 3292619 MrX
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all I could get was this stupid job as a spammer:

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:02 | 3292780 rotagen
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I'm not sure , but there's poppies and dead civilians in Ass-ramistan, if that helps.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:47 | 3292613 kliguy38
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Watta far can we fall?

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:51 | 3292628 Unprepared
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All this would have gone without an incident if only the Krazystan gave us all OUR oil back that we hid in their basement and willingly submitted to DemocracyTM

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:53 | 3292637 otto skorzeny
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we're gonna drink all their milkshake

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:39 | 3292826 wee-weed up
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John F'n Kerry.

Just call him 'Stan.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:28 | 3292891 Zap Powerz
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Fuck this Lurch Looking mother fucker and his stupid fucking lurch looking motherfucking horse he rode in on.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 14:10 | 3293643 gmrpeabody
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Soup..., is that you?

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:51 | 3292629 palmereldritch
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How is he with Rothschildistan?

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:54 | 3292643 magpie
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They bear a great message of cultural learning

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:53 | 3292640 Moe Howard
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Kerry is good at confusion. He managed to confuse the voters of Mass. so much that they thought this upper crust French Joo was a Irish Roman Catholic. Nice trick.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:21 | 3292706 TBT or not TBT
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Ted Kennedy. Barney Frank. Elisabeth fauxcahontas Warren. Seeing any pattern? Also, the beta release of Obamacare.

Referred to as taxachussets. Expatriated former residents called "massholes" in their new homes.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:26 | 3292888 Zap Powerz
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I hope I live long enough to see this stupid fucking place go up in flames.  John motherfucking Kerry is our Sec State now?  What THE fuck?  Please, mother nature, put this stupid fucking cuntry out of its stupid fucking misery.

Ive been drinking.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:04 | 3292930 LongBallsShortBrains
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You are on a roll. Have another drink.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:16 | 3292940 Lord Of Finance
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Welcome all to the ZH after hours club.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 07:01 | 3293069 Oldrepublic
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Adlai Stevenson once  said, A diplomat's  life is made up of three ingredients, protocol, Geritol   and alcohol. Perhaps Kerry had too much of the last one


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:55 | 3293304 New_Meat
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Case study in Chronic Botix Overdose.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 00:55 | 3294827 merizobeach
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Kerry would've first had to be intelligent before he could later suffer from alcoholic retardation.  No, that's not his diagnosis.  I'd say he's more likely afflicted with inbred retardation; terminally stupid from birth in any case.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:46 | 3292998 Element
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The latest knight to sally forth from the CFR Grand Inepitudium.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:27 | 3293263 lakecity55
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It's OK. I may have to take it up again myself.

Amazing how TPTB under the puppet, Skeeter, have turned the country upside down so quickly.

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:54 | 3292641 Unprepared
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And didn't we invade Kardashianistan already?

Fri, 03/01/2013 - 23:55 | 3292644 Atomizer
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John Kerry will barter ketchup for International Democracy. Similar to, ‘ Ankara is now considering an Iranian bid to exchange oil for Turkish ships and coast guard boats’.


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:05 | 3292671 Oldwood
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I'm sure America's stock in the rest of the world is on the rise now! Confidence inspiring, I must say!

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:08 | 3292679 GMadScientist
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It's true that Sec Kerry was not the best geography student; rumor is that his teacher passed him merely to save herself from having to listen to the little bastard anymore.


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:19 | 3292705 palmereldritch
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Ease up.  He graduated with a 3.22 grade point average.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:53 | 3292764 GMadScientist
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And I'm sure whomever took those tests was a model student.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:15 | 3292800 Unprepared
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He was in the same class as Al Gore, where Al had the pangaea epiphany, discovered the internet and created wind all in one afternoon before tipping John gave birth to the upside-down fetus sea.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:52 | 3292843 dunce
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I create wind every day. Can i be a world leader?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:08 | 3292862 Atomizer
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John Kerry was an experiment for improving student performance. Let no child behind flourished.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:53 | 3293001 Element
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really? I heard it was a Findus equine genetics experiment that went horribly wrong ... something about a talking horse ... or was that a stalking-horse?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:16 | 3292693 JamesB
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1.7 Trillion Ton of oil seems like too much.  A ton has about 5 barrels in it.  So 1.7 Trillion Ton is about 8.5 Trillion barrels.  Which is about the entire worlds consumption for 260 years.  I think you must mean 1.7 Billion Tons. 

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:36 | 3292740 Flakmeister
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You noticed that too, eh....

And as far as the nukes go, it is remarkable what gets left laying around when a super power undergoes catabolic collapse....

Kashagan is also the last great "onshore" oil field found, pity it is laced with H2S at lethal concentrations.... 

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 06:37 | 3293057 falak pema
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I worked on Tengiz and KArachaganak, both hi on H2S conc,  but this one came in 2000... Orenburg blues and  new Astana stew...How the world changes. Exit USSR, hello Kazakh. 

Acid gas is what the French mastered at Lacq in the 60s, albeit using US technology.

But that was before my time. We tend to find more gas and condensate than oil since the 80s; or its very heavy stuff or deep underwater ! 

Here is the lowdown on Kashagan :   Kashagan Field - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

13 billion BBls recoverable = approx  1.77 billion tons.  (1 bbl = .16 M3 x .85 (d) = 0.136 T)

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:54 | 3292846 dunce
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Might have been a Maxine Waters class mate.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 01:03 | 3294836 merizobeach
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Three sources I just referenced reported that, depending on the quality of the oil, there are between 6-8 barrels per ton.

As an aside, why does the article measure the oil reserves in tons and not barrels?  Could it be a typo?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:18 | 3292702 goldenbuddha454
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Heinz, Hunts, its all ketchup right?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:21 | 3292708 Kirk2NCC1701
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Kerry, the grandmaster of infiltration -- a religion, a secret society, a rich heiress, a political party... one of a kind.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:23 | 3292715 TBT or not TBT
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He was the boat captain in apocalypse now, but in real life remember?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:28 | 3292721 otto skorzeny
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the hetman told him "you're an errand boy-sent by a spear chucker -to collect an oil contract"

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:24 | 3293259 lakecity55
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Sat, 03/02/2013 - 11:00 | 3293311 New_Meat
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"He was the boat captain in apocalypse now, ..."

Yep, that was when Nixon sent him to Cambodia at Christmas.  It is seared, seared he says, into his memory.

- Ned

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 14:14 | 3293321 Dapper Dan
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His mother was a Forbes,

Forbes Family



Primary source of wealth: Opium trading.

 Winthrop Family by marriage (maternal grandmother) Winthrops Ranked #22 by wealth in US

Jewish Ancestry paternal grandfather Frederick A. Kerry (born Fritz Kohn)

John Kerry's first foreign trip as secretary of state

US Secretary of State John Kerry says it's 'paramount' that Egypt reaches arrangement with IMF - @Reuters

"Take the money or we send in the Drones"

"you need these loans, you want these loans"

"don't worry about the fine print, just the standard contract, all the other ME countries are getting the same"

"Sign zee papers,you then get the cash,  then we sell you the weapons you need to free your people" 

We all win!!!!

Despite the apparent failure of the IMF to fulfil its Bretton Woods promise, its officials have none the less functioned as catalyst to international monetary and policy cooperation, and have helped galvanize cooperative management of monetary crises over the years. It remains an important symbol of international cooperation, albeit heavily weighted in favour of the interests of the developed market economies.

— Geoffrey R. D. Underhill


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:28 | 3292720 adr
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I know what he's going through. I was at an account in Michigan and referred to Detroit as Mogadishu. I get them mixed up all the time.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 16:32 | 3293958 mkhs
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Why do you have to insult Somalia?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 00:36 | 3292742 MoneyThangs
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Nuke the bastards, Truman style! - IM AN AMERICAN IDIOT NUNENENENANANANA

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:02 | 3292782 ReactionToClose...
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too many funny comments here tonight ..... Detroit, hetman, boat captain, infiltrator, massholes, ketchup & horses, met at a coven, ..... no one mentioned the yacht parked in Little Rhody to evade Taxachusetts boatslip taxes.

But the question for the ages:  how do you think former Sen Heinz (PA-R) feels about all this?


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:25 | 3293439 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Senator Heinz probably feels a little like Paul Wellstone

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 16:37 | 3293975 mkhs
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No, I suspect that all things considered, he'd rather be in Detroit.


W.C. Fields

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:25 | 3293440 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Senator Heinz probably feels a little like Paul Wellstone

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:26 | 3293441 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Senator Heinz probably feels a little like Paul Wellstone

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:25 | 3293442 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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Senator Heinz probably feels a little like Paul Wellstone

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 13:10 | 3293526 Bam_Man
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Only one up arrow from me-for the first one.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:02 | 3292783 fudge
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"Kazakhstan, on the other hand, is an oil-rich nuclear power that was oddly enough the choice of venue for P5+1 talks with Iran"


There was nothing odd in the choice of venue , Russia was keen to show off their new and enhanced (S-400) friendship with Astana to other members of the P5 and let Nazarbayev play the pruning peacock on the big stage.


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:06 | 3292791 Quant Jockey
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So glad he reported for duty.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 08:56 | 3293133 overmedicatedun...
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if kerry does the same at state as he did "in country" he's gone in 3 months. few non combat vets can understand the viceral hate he generates in those who served full tours, had real wounds and fought on with our brothers not for country not for glory but for each other.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 01:10 | 3294843 merizobeach
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I stop feeling sorry for those that are drafted on the day they report for service.  Murderers.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:38 | 3292831 Rusty Diggins
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Ichabad Crane as Secretary of State.


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:45 | 3292839 Yen Cross
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  Jackass PLUS!

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 01:45 | 3292840 Oldrepublic
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I have visited two of the "stans," Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan,Uzbekistan is a real police state, where opponents of the regime are actually boiled to death.One British Ambassador there did not like reading torture reports so he was dismissed.(Craig Murray). An interesting part of the world, one can see the global power shifts, The Chinese and Russians are regaining control and influence there after a long hiatus.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:02 | 3292855 Sandmann
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If it is not on the Drone Route it is unknown in the White House

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:31 | 3292895 Lord Of Finance
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Yes. Hello, it nice to meet a you. I once dated girl from Kahzakistan. VERY NICE!!. She was number 4 prostitute in all Kahzakistan.


Sexy time!

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 02:38 | 3292907 Yen Cross
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That was lung barfing funny! I'm prolapsing as I post!   ``D

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:16 | 3292927 Overdrawn
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I live and work in Kazakhstan, and regardless of what outsiders say the ordinary people here love Nazarbayev.  What I haven't read a lot about is the millions Nazarbayev is paying Blair, Mandleson and Campbell for 'advice'.  I would think any political 'advice' from those 3 war criminals could be dangerous. Nazarbayev should also bear in mind how Blair treats his 'friends', remember how he ignored Gaddafi's calls for help after he had pocketed countless millions for 'advice'.

As far as the economy in Kazakhstan, it's going to take off in a big way, a lot of development is happening and they have a lot of catching up to do with the West. They are currently engaged in a massive educational reform program via Nazarbayev Intellectual Schools.  The students go to school 8-5 Monday-Saturday, all their fees are paid, uniforms, sports equipment and food all provided free of charge.  There are 12 students to a class, compare that to what is happening in the West.  Some argue this is being paid for at the expense of the ordinary schools, but the reforms are filtering down.  This country has a future, terrible weather but definately much better prospects than the West.

Finally, could Nazarbayev actually be any worse than Obama, Cameron, the EEC Dictators and the Goldman vampire squid that are defrauding the ordinary people of the West of billions daily?   It's easy to critise foreign leaders, it deflects from the criminal activity and incompetence of our own.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:25 | 3292947 newengland
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Well said, 'overdrawn'.

That useless pile of empty suit Kerry is a disgrace to the USA, but useful to oligarchs everywhere including JP Morgue, Goldman Sacks and O'bomba. Plus the Rotchilds, Oppenheimers and their British bints.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:27 | 3292949 Overdrawn
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Another good thing about Kazakhstan is that Capitalism hasn't destroyed the family here.  Age is respected, it isn't linked to earning potential.  They don't cart their parents off to an old peoples home when they become old and infirm.    Also, it's a cash society, the banks haven't got a stranglehold here yet and that can only be a good thing.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:03 | 3292974 newengland
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If someone named Peter Mandelson comes your way, beware. In fact, steer clear of all UK or EUSSR emmisaries. For you sake.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 05:28 | 3293028 fudge
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 It's easy to critise foreign leaders, it deflects from the criminal activity and incompetence of our own.

No,it serves to remind people that the dictatorial regimes currently in power in all governments be they West,East,North or South are linked by the same piece of string.I most certainly do not excuse the criminal activity and incompetence in my own country,they also have their hands on that string..lying,selfserving,chart manipulating scum that they are.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:20 | 3292944 newengland
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Kerry's fuck tard ways were reported in Britain and Europe. What a jerk. How awful that the Nazi CONgress has allowed this pale imitation of Goebbels to gallivant abroad.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:07 | 3292978 Yen Cross
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 John "swift boat" Heinz Ketchup Kerry?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 03:44 | 3292956 Lord Of Finance
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I was planning to be "movin to Montana" soon, so I could be a dental floss tycoon.


   But I may have to look into Kazakhstan.


Maybe I should be singing,


                 'movin to Kazakhstan soon


                 goona be a communist baboon'




Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:38 | 3292963 Yen Cross
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 If you aren't drinking after todays ( lesson in denial), you should be shot between the eyes!


     ~ Yen Cross~

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:04 | 3292977 Lord Of Finance
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"In a country where the sole employer is the State, opposition means death by slow starvation.

 The old principle: who does not work shall not eat, has been replaced by a new one: who does not obey, shall not eat."


            Leon Trotsky

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 13:11 | 3293529 Overdrawn
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Your referring to the USA right?  Those who don't work shall not eat, be entitled to shelter or medicare.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 18:06 | 3294133 Lord Of Finance
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I am referring to the terror famine that was imposed by Stalin. That is how Stalin ranks number 1 in the "dictator who slaughters his own people category"


For you to compare the two is invalid, and for you to have praise for your fascist dear leader is lunacy. Your logic is upside down. Reagan was right. You have ears,but do not understand. You have eyes that don't see.


pseudo-intellectual collectivists such as yourself always fail to see the forest through the trees. It does not always have to be so. 


Although, quasi marxist comparisons to the US are not completely unfounded. The lunatic neo-marxists have gotten more and more of what they want and that is why America is headed for catastrophy, because of the influence of that swiss cheese logical fallacious fallacy known as marxist theory.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 02:16 | 3294893 Lord Of Finance
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The problem with capitalism is that there are not enough people who are conscience capitalists. The vice of greed infects all systems. If we had more capitalists who operate from their good conscience, we would not have all the moral hazard that has been created because of a lack of conscience capitalism.


  The system is not perfect, but it is the best. Capitalism is a vehicle for prosperity. The car is not the problem, but the driver is. The same analogy can be used from the gun debate. The problem is not the weapon, but the shooter.


  The morality that is absent from the capitalist drivers lead to reckless manuevers and then the inevitable crash. It is a matter of morality. The question then becomes, "how do we legislate morality?" The answer is, we can't. Morality and doing what is right are the major component to the moral hazard and corruption that plagues this market.


What happens when marxist theory is applied is a dictating of that morality/doing what is right. And that leads to tyranny and much more corruption as we have seen in every application of marxist theory. And now we have light being shed on the horrendous corruption from the marxist offshoot, that is European socialism. The situation with socialist greed and corruption is leaps and bounds above the capitalist system.


  Moral delinquency is prevelant amongst all nation, peoples and systems. We need conscience capitalism that holds esteem for higher virtues. But requires a properly formed conscience. We can not junk the auto because we have drivers who show poor judgement.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:20 | 3292986 Lord Of Finance
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Quoting maverick film maker Clint Eastwood, VERY NICE!



  Just got done watching 'High Plains Drifter' too!

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 04:23 | 3292984 Lord Of Finance
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"How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin/Trotsky."


"How do you tell an anti-communist? Well, it's someone who understands Marx and Lenin/Trotsky."



      Ronald Reagan

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 06:04 | 3293043 falak pema
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how do you tell a man who points towards the road to freedom but paves the Oligarchy's road to serfdom?

Maybe we should ask Greenspan and Bush Senior who served under him and then OUTDID his legacy down the Ponzi road to serfdom in hubristic NWO mantra.

"No, No, No...I will never suffer the fascist junta of Argentina... but I love the fascist junta of Chile or elsewhere 'cos they don't attack the Falklands and they don't support the Labour Unions; THE ENEMY WITHIN..."

Oh Maggie, how the world misses you and your Big Bang of King Kong City land!  And Tony greatest legacy to Britain! 

"We are what we do repeatedly"...and that is signed Aristotle. He wasn't born in the US of A; just saying...

Pax AMericana's legacy is both party supported; its too tuff to break for these Oligarchy controlled upper echelon elites of US of A.

It'll take a grass roots revolt in ALL OF FIRST WORLD...

These oil rich new nations are changing the East-West balance of power and making a debt ridden first world look ragged and totally incoherent in its Great Game strategies.

Is there a pilot in this DC DReamliner?

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 06:05 | 3293050 etresoi
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HAHAHA - change you can believe is, with the Obama administration.

US foriegn policy has changed from the besotted Hilary Clinton ( bourbon, y'all?) to the bumkin from Massechusets, or does he live with his wife in Pitsburg?

Kerry should be informed that his portfolio is foriegn policy and ignorance as an institutional democratic ideal is US domestic policy - deficient nutrition, substandard education, full contact sport and reality television will keep the populace dumb, while you tell them they are free, as the noose tightens around their neck.

I have been to many of these international conferences, where the local attendees politely roll their eyes, as the US representive spouts the party  line.  They tolerated the insult personified by the booze hound Clinton but it seems that the insult of the septuagenarian bumkin is too much.

Kerry is not a total fool.  He married well and then had to divest the family assets, because of his new 'public service' role.  29 billion tax free paid by Warren Buffet - crony capitalism at its finest.  I wonder what kind of a kick back Obama receives in 2017.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 06:26 | 3293058 Volaille de Bresse
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"CIA now pissing in Russia's back yard"


They've been trying to since 9/11... with little result I might add. 

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 06:30 | 3293059 Volaille de Bresse
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The Russians must be pissing themselves laughing : they have super-smart Sergei Labrov at the diplomatic helm and the US have Kerry The Klown...


Sat, 03/02/2013 - 08:01 | 3293094 sudzee
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Social Security trillions at work propping up US puppets.
Has anyone ever figured out where the trillions went to.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 08:45 | 3293121 shinobi-7
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Dear citizens,

Who do you prefer to represent you: Clowns or puppets?

Please vote wisely!

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 09:23 | 3293161 Henry Hub
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People aren't really interested in these countries until the United States decides to bomb them. Then everyone run to an atlas to find out all about them. It's a real learning process.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:17 | 3293246 lakecity55
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Yes, and it is sad. These countries have a wealth of history in them. More evidence of dumbing down a-murhrikans.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:29 | 3293184 lakecity55
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Turkmenistan however, is loaded with NG; 4th largest supply in the world.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 09:51 | 3293208 css1971
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All these stans it's just soo confusing. Glad to see our leaders are paying so much attention to the world though.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:13 | 3293237 stant
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how many seals he gona kill? or did hillary leave any. gona play chest with russians better know how to play chest

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 10:48 | 3293294 deerhunter
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mixing up Mogadishu and Detroit will certainly give Mogadishu a bad name,,,, those Mogadishuns have feelings too,   been there done that when I lived in Detroit for 2 years in mid 80's and felt like 22 years instead.  They can't turn out the lights cause the party is over because they already can't pay to keep the street lights on.  ,,,, Sad

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 03:40 | 3294956 Joseph Jones
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NPR constantly (I mean really, 50x a day) blames only Reps for the current national financial problems.  (I want both major parties banned, they can both go to hell.)  They also love to blame whitey for every ill on earth.  

But when they mention Detroit they never mention blacks and Dems owned it for about 40 years, ever.  

Fair, maybe? 

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 11:44 | 3293364 Mr. Hudson
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I know this much: The Jews can't stan the Khazars.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 11:54 | 3293385 W74
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Most of the assholes who think they're jews ARE Khazars.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:13 | 3293412 Mr. Hudson
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The Jews say "No". Even David Duke and Brother Nathanael are saying the Jews aren't decedents of Khazars.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 03:42 | 3294953 Joseph Jones
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Who the hell cares what anyone "says."  Sorry, DNA don't lie.  Jews are far less "descendants" of Abraham than are Palestinians. 

Judaic PhD. Arthur Koestler's book is free online, The Thirteenth Tribe, well and accurately describing the fact that modern jews descended from Khazaria. 

So let's see: if you are a "jew" (no such thing as a jew prior to 1775 cause the word didn't exist) you have "right" to your homeland.  A homeland where no ancestors lived.  Palestine. 

But.  If you are a Palestinian, who's ancestors were indeed born there, you must go to hell and die as fast as possible. 

"Unbreakable" bond my arse.  Washington roles in his grave. 

You sure as fn hell need to manufacture enemies when you want to justify spending as much for war machines (AKA "defense") as the rest of the world combined.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 07:01 | 3295023 etresoi
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Let us be a little more specific. Ashkenazi Jews are mostly Khazars.  Ashkenaz was the first son of Gomer, who was a Khazar.  Sephardic Jew are the descendants of Abraham, from the area now known as Palestine.

But the problems arise from the  racist Zionists, who are mostly Ashkenazi.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 12:54 | 3293502 NoWayJose
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I used to think BORAT was a joke, then I saw Obama and the US Congress in action...

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 13:23 | 3293513 Bam_Man
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Kerry gets easily tongue-tied with foreign names.

An excellent choice for Secretary of State.

I remember hearing him refer to Genghis Khan as "Jaingiss Khan" once.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 01:23 | 3294860 merizobeach
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If you've ever been to Mongolia, you know that the traditional western pronunciation of 'Genghis Kahn' is incorrect; "Jing-giss" is more accurate.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 15:04 | 3295690 Bam_Man
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Then he'd make an excellent Mongolian Secretary of State I suppose.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 13:23 | 3293559 NoWayJose
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It is kind of scary to see China say they are 'ready', when they are sitting on lots of US treasuries, have been importing gold, and have lots of excess capacity.

Sun, 03/03/2013 - 06:55 | 3295020 etresoi
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All China needs to do is dump the treasuries - game over.  Dollar crashes, gold rises.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 14:14 | 3293650 stant
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drone has built in poussie magnet

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 17:07 | 3294036 Titus Flavius C...
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Hey ZeroDawgs:

It's not just about the oil, but about where you run the pipes, baby {and who you box out by running your own pipes}.   I don't think this map is entirely accurate, but it's very probably basically accurate.  Encircling Russia and all.

When Putin kicked the oilgarchs out, he pissed off a lot of people Alex 'NSA Asset' Jones would call, vaguely, the 'New World Order'.

A lot of those folks fled to a middle east country that has no extradition treaties with anyone.

Guess which one.

For the life of me, I can't have any hope in a 'loyalist' or patriot element of the clandestines or SFs while Richard Pearle, Bill Kristol, Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfiwitz, Michael Chertoff, for that matter Cheney, and Scooter Libby, are walking around, fat and happy.  The great harm that PNAC and the Ziocons in the Pentagon's office of special plans isn't a conspiracy theory, it isn't hard to prove - they worked with Israel to cook up lies to excuse an attack on Iraq which, granted, Bush and Cheney already wanted.


When I think of all the Marines and Soldiers coming back with no arms, or brain damaged, or blind, and I think of Richard Perle... and the fact no one, no ghost, or special op guy or lone wolf, ever took him out...  I understand that this country has absolutely no chance to fight back.  It lacks the conviction to recognize an enemy, it is too afraid of being smeared as a racist by those racists who wield power for their tribe, and it is too distracted.

I think of the total lack of public discussion of this crew of mostly Jewish neocons - because god forbid people excercise a little intelligence and appreciate that while most of the neocons/Israeli 5th column are Jews, most Jews aren't warmongering neocon cunts - no, what happens is no one can even broach the topic.  The MSM wouldn't, and precious few blogs that aren't liabilities because of facile, lazy antisemitism would dare to bring this topic up.  Probably less than 1 in 50 americans understand how large a role the Israel lobby played in Iraq, and how relentlessly they have captured Congress and are leading us to war for Iran - in this case, almost wholly for the petrodollar and for Greater Israel.


Saw this posted in a comment over at from the trenches.  Probably too long and involved for most of you and I don't know if I totally believe the purported origin, but...



Okay, sorry, end of rant.  But I see this crew of "Zionists" and their fellow travellers whose first thought is for Israel, and their tactics always war and terror - the traitorous Congress, and I see more wars - not just for Israel, but the 'Zioniat' capture of Congress is what makes the large wars possible.  And no one is taking these fuckers out.


What hope is there?


Sun, 03/03/2013 - 06:54 | 3295019 etresoi
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If I could give 10 thumbs up, I would.  It is reassuring to know that some Murikans have eyes, which can see.

And, to answer your question... there is no hope.  People outside of the US are not blind and know that USA and Israel are doomed, which most think is a good thing.

Sat, 03/02/2013 - 19:10 | 3294234 constantine
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After its schism from the USSR, Kazakhstan held the third largest nuclear arsenal on the planet; larger than those held by all of Europe.  It voluntarily dismantled the entire arsenal.  Additionally, it is largely considered a success story in developing its natural resources and opening its economy.  What do we do in response?... sit around on our ignorant, beer-consuming ethnocentric asses making fun of 'Borat'.  Given all of their natural resources, perhaps it is time that Kazakhstan be 'democratized' by western freedom-fighters.  (the information regarding the nuclear arsenal is from 'The Second World' - Parag Khanna)

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