The Last Time The Dow Was Here...

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"Mission Accomplished" - With CNBC now lost for countdown-able targets (though 20,000 is so close), we leave it to none other than Jim Cramer, quoting Stanley Druckenmiller, to sum up where we stand (oh and the following list of remarkable then-and-now macro, micro, and market variables), namely that "we all know it's going to end badly, but in the meantime we can make some money" - ZH translation: "just make sure to sell ahead of everyone else", just like everyone sold ahead of everyone else on October 11th 2007, the last time stocks were here...

  • Dow Jones Industrial Average: Then 14164.5; Now 14164.5
  • Regular Gas Price: Then $2.75; Now $3.73
  • GDP Growth: Then +2.5%; Now +1.6%
  • Americans Unemployed (in Labor Force): Then 6.7 million; Now 13.2 million
  • Americans On Food Stamps: Then 26.9 million; Now 47.69 million
  • Size of Fed's Balance Sheet: Then $0.89 trillion; Now $3.01 trillion
  • US Debt as a Percentage of GDP: Then ~38%; Now 74.2%
  • US Deficit (LTM): Then $97 billion; Now $975.6 billion
  • Total US Debt Oustanding: Then $9.008 trillion; Now $16.43 trillion
  • US Household Debt: Then $13.5 trillion; Now 12.87 trillion
  • Labor Force Particpation Rate: Then 65.8%; Now 63.6%
  • Consumer Confidence: Then 99.5; Now 69.6
  • S&P Rating of the US: Then AAA; Now AA+
  • VIX: Then 17.5%; Now 14%
  • 10 Year Treasury Yield: Then 4.64%; Now 1.89%
  • USDJPY: Then 117; Now 93
  • EURUSD: Then 1.4145; Now 1.3050
  • Gold: Then $748; Now $1583
  • NYSE Average LTM Volume (per day): Then 1.3 billion shares; Now 545 million shares
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Tue, 03/05/2013 - 14:54 | 3301543 Esso
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Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:38 | 3300595 GetZeeGold
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We will be focusing on the DOW today.....and nothing else.

 

You can leave now.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:03 | 3300728 Awakened Sheeple
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Fuck it!

 

Let's knock out S&P's high while we're at it!!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:09 | 3300754 GetZeeGold
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The new printers have arrived.....why the hell not?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:16 | 3300776 Divided States ...
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Well, the Dow is late to the new high list, Student loans, entire US Debt, # of ppl on food stamps, firearm sales, credit card debt, lies by politicians. Those have been hitting new highs the last few years...and still going higher.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:38 | 3300597 bania
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nice nominal accomplishment!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:39 | 3300598 Downtoolong
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Great, now we can finally all sell at the same time and get our money back, right?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:54 | 3300685 Real Estate Geek
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On three. Ready? One . . . Two . . .

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:39 | 3300599 Water Is Wet
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  • US Debt as a Percentage of GDP: Then ~38%; Now 74.2%

When in doubt, tell outrageous lies.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:45 | 3300638 Joe Davola
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Which is fudged worse - the numerator or the denominator?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:02 | 3300725 DaveyJones
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the rumorator

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 12:24 | 3301001 B2u
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yes

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:54 | 3300677 Woodyg
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That doesn't count the Social Securityy funds stolen into the general fund - of course that makes it a tax increase on the poorest and middle class but whose counting.

The fact they trot out the number minus the SS funds proves the politician has no intention of honoring those payments working Americans made for decades.

What's guaranteeing those SS funds get repaid? Nothing - it's just a piece of paper with some scribbling on it.

Kind of like that old document called the constitution - it's just parchment - that's all.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:58 | 3300703 Joe Davola
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Government's version of GAAP vs. non

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:39 | 3300601 Glass Seagull
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But what was the total US share market float?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:39 | 3300603 Shizzmoney
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Americans Unemployed (in Labor Force): Then 6.7 million; Now 13.2 million

Yet we reach all time highs.

Man is this society fucked.  What a lot of dumb, stupid, ignorant people.

BTW I love how the only deficit that deleveraged was the Household Debt. 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:58 | 3300701 Hughing
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..and it's the household deleveraging that will get the blame for (cause of)  the Fed's balance sheet. Never mind that the inflation wipes out the gains from deleveraging.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:00 | 3300712 Shizzmoney
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Thankfully for our corporate masters, wage deflation is at record levels......the consumer would have deleveraged MORE if they got paid like they should for their labor.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 12:35 | 3301036 Totentänzerlied
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Bullshit. They would have celebrated with a shopping spree like they always have. They dug their own grave but now they're too stupid and arrogant to just lay down and die.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 14:02 | 3301349 Shizzmoney
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This is true...if you are over the age of 50.

Those 50 and older actually INCREASED their household debt by 8% since the Great Recession started.....and those under 35 have actually deleveraged at a rate of around -28%.

So, the younger worker is starting to get it: get lean, get liquid, and pay off debt.  Then you don't have so many monetary pressures when SHTF.

Boomers?  They are still doing the same old shit.

 

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 01:19 | 3303821 Boxed Merlot
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So, the younger worker is starting to get it: get lean, get liquid, and pay off debt. Then you don't have so many monetary pressures when SHTF...

 

I sure hope so.  I, unfortunately am one of your "boomers" that hopes my kids share your outlook.  After trying to be responsible and not buy into the joke of residential property valuations, I nonetheless suffered at the hands of the financial criminals decimation of the US middle class.  Lean, liquid and out of debt is admirable but please don't abdicate the rule of law in your quest for fulfillment.  Not all boomers are as FOS as you may presume.  Anarchy is not all it's cracked up to be, imho.

Restore the Constitutional Republic. 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:40 | 3300607 Lost Wages
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What? Dow Chemical stock is at $14,000? My buy & hold strategy finally paid off!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:40 | 3300608 Bad Attitude
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Looks fantastic. What could possibly go wrong?

Time to top off your stocks of beans, bullets, bandages, and PMs.

Forward!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:41 | 3300612 Jim B
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Green Shoots anyone? 

 

 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:42 | 3300614 lakecity55
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Think, tho, if you count in 10 years of inflation, it's (the market) probably only 10,000 in 2002 dollarz.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:59 | 3300706 jaap
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And 6615 in gold terms...

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:59 | 3300709 Global Hunter
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The DOW is emulating its little cousin the Harare Industrial Average

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 14:02 | 3301339 matrix2012
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@ Global Hunter

I  just overheard the Harare, did you really mean the Harare in SIMBABWE, Africa???

I learn that its dollar is the largest... surely Uncle Ben gets something to learn from there eventually.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:42 | 3300615 thismarketisrigged
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just like in sports where we here all these analysts saying how someone on roids should have a major asterisk next to there name, well this market should have 20 x the asterisk on this run. its not impressive when u pump stocks up by printing money. anyone can do that.

 

no stock is being printed as much money as google. fucking joke

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:42 | 3300616 Cognitive Dissonance
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See.....I told you.

This time is different.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:06 | 3300741 DaveyJones
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it all depends on what the meaning of is is

and who we fuck next

and what color we dress it

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:13 | 3300765 kaiserhoff
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I did not have sex with that woman.  She had sex with me.... uh, wut?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:38 | 3300855 Meat Hammer
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That's like saying "I'm not gay!  He sucked MY dick!"

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 13:05 | 3301152 DaveyJones
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it's exactly the same...except the tax write off

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 13:51 | 3301297 What is The Hedge
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As they say, "It ain't gay if you're pushing!"

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:42 | 3300618 Cursive
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It is a strange thing to lose all faith in one's society.  It's a mirage, a house of cards.  At least I have my guns and my religion to cling to.  I pity those who do not believe in an afterlife for it sure must be a bleak existence.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:48 | 3300645 fonzannoon
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It's all good cursive. I am not religious. I do have faith that there is something after this but I don't know what it is.

I hope people don't let this whole facade jam them up too bad mentally. Go for a walk. Adopt a dog. A dog can teach you a lot.

This will go wherever it goes. I do hope we institute a "punch a rich banker dude in the face day" at some point. That would make me happy. There are a lot of us on here. We would jam up the cour system so bad either we would be let free or they would have to free some marijuana users from the prison's to make room for us. It would be a net win either way.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:53 | 3300682 Cognitive Dissonance
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Don't fall for the False Expectation Appears Real trade. 

But do make hay while the sun shines.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 18:54 | 3302619 howenlink
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If you look you can even find people in your own community who side with you.  But you have to get off Facebook to do that.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:07 | 3300738 Raymond Reason
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Have some sympathy for those of us who do believe in an afterlife, and are in constant fear of hell. 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:06 | 3300743 Kirk2NCC1701
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"There are no atheists in the foxhole of a mansion or palace." - Kirk2NCC1701

Long organized region for when TSHTF.  Because then it will be really handy -- for the rich:  It keeps the poor from murdering the rich, and the rich will pray & hope that they don't get killed by the poor.

I have abiding faith that, in the long run, Mother Nature will get her kids to toe the line, or get booted out of her pool.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:22 | 3300801 fonzannoon
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There are no foxes in aethist holes but we never talk about that do we?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 12:04 | 3300940 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah, but did you hear that "There are no atheists in foxy holes"?  1/2 the population has heard the outcries made by the other 1/2.  ;-)

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 13:45 | 3301278 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And that is the difference between wisdom and belief. Both require accepting that there is more to reality than what your field of perception sees. Belief is blind and requires no thought while wisdom is sight and does. Belief without sight is for fools.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:42 | 3300620 ziggy59
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Translation..Its all great here on Bizarro World

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:48 | 3300624 Sudden Debt
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AS BERNANKE AND OBAMA WOULD SAY: NUMEROLOGY!!!

http://www.paulsadowski.com/Numbers.asp

You entered: DOW JONES

There are 8 letters in your name.
Those 8 letters total to 33
There are 3 vowels and 5 consonants in your name.

What your first name means:

Irish Male Dark-haired.

Your number is: 6

The characteristics of #6 are: Responsibility, protection, nurturing, community, balance, sympathy.

The expression or destiny for #6:The number 6 Expression provides you a truly outstanding sense of responsibility, love, and balance. The 6 is helpful and ever conscientious, making you quite capable of rectifying and balancing any sort of inharmonious situation. You are a person very much inclined to give help and comfort to those in need.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:00 | 3300715 Kilgore Trout
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Hey, this Dow Jones character sounds a lot like ME!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 19:12 | 3302688 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Some one shoot me while I'm happy!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 10:43 | 3300625 LawsofPhysics
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The complete monetization (by a relative few) continues.  Isn't fascism great?  Bailouts for them, bankruptcy and debt-slavery for everyone else.  Anyone else notice that CNBC is no longer allowing comments on their "journalism".  Full frontal naked bannana empire bitches.  Buy low and sell high, so long as selling is still allowed, I guess.  Some things never change.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 11:14 | 3300768 mtomato2
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But there's always money in the banana stand...

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