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New York's Homelessness Worst Since The Great Depression

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State and local governments nationwide have struggled to accommodate a homeless population that has changed in recent years - now including large numbers of families with young children. As the WSJ reports, more than 21,000 children - an unprecedented 1% of the city's youth - slept each night in a city shelter in January, an increase of 22% in the past year; as homeless families now spend more than a year in a shelter, on average, for the first time since 1987. New York City has seen one of the steepest increases in homeless families in the past decade, advocates said, growing 73% since 2002, and "is facing a homeless crisis worse than any time since the Great Depression."

Homeless advocates said the Obama administration has focused on more visible problems, such as those sleeping on the streets, taking resources away from families. The steep rise has reignited questions about whether New York's economic turnaround of the past two decades has helped the city's poorest residents as they note (despite today's Dow record highs), "the economy is nowhere near where it was."

The blame apparently lies at the cessation of 'entitlements' as the DHS adds, since the end - in Spring 2011 - of a state-funded program that subsidized rent for people leaving shelters; homeless families have gone up 35%; but they also added that the city was working to find employment for the homeless, "a long-term solution." Boston and Washington DC are also seeing homeless numbers surge.




Via WSJ,

An average of more than 50,000 people slept each night in New York City's homeless shelters for the first time in January, a record that underscores an unsettling national trend: a rising number of families without permanent housing.


Families have become a larger share of the nation's homeless population, growing 1.4% from 2011 to 2012, after their numbers fell as the economy emerged from recession.




More than 21,000 children—an unprecedented 1% of the city's youth—slept each night in a city shelter in January, an increase of 22% in the past year, the report said, while homeless families now spend more than a year in a shelter, on average, for the first time since 1987. In January, an average of 11,984 homeless families slept in shelters each night, a rise of 18% from a year earlier.


"New York is facing a homeless crisis worse than any time since the Great Depression," said Mary Brosnahan, president of the Coalition for the Homeless.




New York City has seen one of the steepest increases in homeless families in the past decade, advocates said, growing 73% since 2002.




The steep rise has reignited questions about whether New York's economic turnaround of the past two decades has helped the city's poorest residents.




"The economy is nowhere near where it was," said Seth Diamond, commissioner of the city's Department of Homeless Services. He pointed to the end of a state-funded program that subsidized rent for people leaving shelters, which ended in spring 2011; homeless families have gone up 35% since, according to shelter records.




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Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:20 | 3303565 TruthInSunshine
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From Hoovervilles to Obamavilles/Bloombergvilles.

That Federal Reserve "Bank" has really minimized economic volatility and the boom-bust cycle.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:21 | 3303577 AlaricBalth
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Just get Mayor Bloomberg to ban homelessness and the problem will be solved.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:24 | 3303587 Temporalist
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By banning large drink cups Bloomie halved these people's income.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:31 | 3303605 Pareto
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Awwww man.  yeah, I know, I'm already going to hell for laughing at that!

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 01:38 | 3303842 WayBehind
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Build some shelter using the Zimbabwe (or soon US) dollars. 

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 05:12 | 3304050 Popo
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The crime wave that hits New York over the coming years is going to make all those "up and coming" neighborhoods look not so "up and coming".

I like to remind all those people who think "real estate always goes up", that much of Brooklyn real estate peaked in the 1920's and collapsed until the mid 1990's. 

Think it can't happen again?  Here comes crime, bitches.   First there are a few murders.  Then a few more.  Then a few families with kids move away, leaving older people to stick it out.  Then a couple homes divide into multi-unit dwellings.   Then SRO's.   And then it's over for another 3 generations.  

'Just like last time.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:48 | 3304114 Bicycle Repairman
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Won't "somebody" need to mix in a little heroin?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:31 | 3304152 negative rates
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Ya see, we don't need no rich man, and we don't need no poor man. But the cons want to grow the economy to save the rich.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 19:35 | 3306683 Half_A_Billion_...
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After the banks fail New Detroit City will be fucked

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 09:24 | 3304297 smlbizman
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i instantly thought bloomberg downed  you. but after considering he would have to get a step stool to put phone books on the chair, than climb the chair and get on top of books just to see the keyboard........

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:57 | 3303677 Freewheelin Franklin
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"Unintended consequences"

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:48 | 3303786 Laser Shark
Wed, 03/06/2013 - 01:15 | 3303815 prains
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They have homes in NYC ??? I thought everybody had an 8x8 brick box and 600 ft of fire escape

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:27 | 3303597 sun tzu
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green shoots 3.0

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:55 | 3303669 Caviar Emptor
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Yup. A green shoots do over

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:33 | 3304098 mt paul
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homeless ate all

the green shoots

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 08:59 | 3304257 _ConanTheLibert...
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you mean biochemical war?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 09:10 | 3304275 CheapBastard
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"Homelessness on the rise..." makes sense. After all, they call it the "jobless recovery."

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:06 | 3303707 TotalCarp
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Time for FEMA "hope & change" camps?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:19 | 3304136 GlobalCtzn
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To be soon followed by the propaganda videos of cherub faced little girls at their Daddy'd side thanking the Government for taking them to the camp where it is warm and has lots of food. Americans will be filled with warm feelings and a sense of doing the 'right' thing. It will almost look like a Norman Rockwell Christmas card........................

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 12:50 | 3305120 ZeroPoint
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Exactly. The sheeple won't fear the camps. They will busting through the gates to get in.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 10:45 | 3304571 Richardk888
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The homeless should really consider pulling their money out of treasuries and investing in the stock market...thats where the smart money is

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:18 | 3303568 Temporalist
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This is clearly bullish for housing and rental properties in NY.  DOW should double to 28000 tomorrow.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:19 | 3303571 reader2010
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The Greater Depression?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:08 | 3303888 WTFUD
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The lesser spotted Depression!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:21 | 3303576 TBT or not TBT
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You mean the "best" no?     The curve goes up as it goes right, and that's what you want.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:23 | 3303582 azzhatter
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all this good news. why is dow only 14000

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 05:55 | 3304069 jeebus
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Need to print $170 billion a month.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:34 | 3304099 mt paul
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i spend that much on cigars

and boat ballast ...

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:29 | 3303590 Dr. Engali
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Were the allowed to have salt or big gulps in the shelters?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:31 | 3303606 Temporalist
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No salt and most definitely not bagels or soup.  Must strictly control their diets.  Control.  Control...must control... 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:35 | 3303620 fonzannoon
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One of my tech buddies told me the plan is to use the homeless for their energy. He said in a few years I can plug my cell phone into a homeless guy while I grab a coffee and comment on here. I used to think he was kidding.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:42 | 3303643 Dr. Engali
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Bloody hell.....Is there any escaping the matrix?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:53 | 3304120 Go Tribe
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You can render them harmless by removing their arms and jaws.

Sat, 03/09/2013 - 14:49 | 3315221 1000 splendid suns
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Pedal those bike generators you useless eaters!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:26 | 3303592 NoWayJose
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Given the level of taxation in New York City, I am surprised it is not even higher. I also find it difficult to believe that in a liberal bastion like NYC there are not plenty of freebies for anyone who does not choose to be homeless by choice.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:39 | 3303615 A Lunatic
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Hey June, what say you and me, we's just go live on the fucking filthy streets of NYC and free range a bit, kind of like animals. Oh Bill! Really! I thought you'd never ask; I'm just sick to death of the comfort and safety of having a roof over our heads........

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:14 | 3303729 NoWayJose
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You must not know of all the NYC programs for emergency assistance, subsidized housing, food stamps, general assistance, welfare, etc, etc, etc - many of which are duplicated and provide little more than salaries for the administrators of all the different overlapping programs. You have to work really hard to NOT collect these.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 14:18 | 3305384 Panafrican Funk...
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Yet, here they are, with 50K+ homeless, even with administrators practically begging them to join the free shit army.  The thing is, generally the best path to getting maximum liquor/drugs while still having a place to sleep at night (if you feel like it) is to get the homeless freebies staying in a shelter (which is technically considered homeless, even if you go to the same shelter every night for years), and barter/beg for cash for said booze/drugs.  That's the actual fucking problem, and it's no surprise that New York City, which is about as high stress/unnatural a lifestyle as you can get (I would lump most major cities in here, but NYC seems to be a special level of mindfucking personal insecurity), is continuing to binge on recreational drugs.  

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:28 | 3303599 Uber Vandal
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This almost reminds me of Zimbabwe's record setting stock market, yet they had nearly 95% unemployment.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:32 | 3303761 lolmao500
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Yep, the zombies don't understand that the stock market is NOMINAL BULLSHIT, not reflecting the TRUE STATE OF THE ECONOMY.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 03:41 | 3303990 icanhasbailout
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to me the stock market is more an indicator of the real rate of inflation

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:31 | 3303600 LongSoupLine
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What the fuck... Don't all those fucking NYC homeless know we just fucking broke a fucking Dow record. Can't they fucking feel the hot dick up their ass fucking "wealth effect"?  Just give them all fucking "Dow Record" ball caps to wear with the cock eating fucking pricks on wall street to make them fucking feel better.



fuck you bernanke, you fucking complete fucking asshole.  fucking die painfully you prick.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:56 | 3303674 kliguy38
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Maria Bartiroma wants some of the "wealth effect" up her ass after schlepping with that weasle Kiernan all day at CNBS

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:59 | 3303679 Caviar Emptor
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It's all gonna trickle down Bloomberg's dickle and the homeless will get rich.
Trickle ma nizzle

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:30 | 3303604 percolator
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Way to go Bernanke!

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:32 | 3303610 GMadScientist
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Sorry...if you can afford tatoos, you don't need my help.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:35 | 3303621 Temporalist
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Tattoos are free in jail

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:40 | 3304106 enloe creek
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no they are not free they are bartered

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:29 | 3304093 Bangin7GramRocks
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What a douche! A person gets a tattoo that lasts a lifetime and then sometime after hits a rough patch of unemoyment that leads to homelessness. Stop being so fucking heartless. Homelessness is horrible and scary. I hope it never happens to you!

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 10:08 | 3304453 GMadScientist
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a) It has happened to me (well, to my parents, but it's not like I got to live indoors while they didn't); my long-haired hippie dad joined the airforce to take care of us.

b) You don't pass street urchins with nose piercings their momma bought em as often as I do.

c) Is giving them $0.63 in change really going to help them with their situation?


Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:32 | 3303612 Lord Of Finance
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Tell those homeless that help/hope is on the way. Trickle down printing economics is bound to work according to those trust worthy keynesians.


   They know that so far it has failed, but not to worry. They will keep trying the same exact thing over and over and over, ad infinum.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:33 | 3303765 lolmao500
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Bernanke should get his helicopter out and drop $85 billion a month in the streets of NYC. Can you imagine how bullish it would be for NYC?? All the tourists flocking to NYC to get some of that free money...

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:34 | 3303618 MoneyThangs
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Hasn't Bloomberg learned anything from Giullianni?? You can't have any homeless people if their dead

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:36 | 3303624 Freddie
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Hope & Change.   Don't forget a few more F You shout outs to Coumo and that douchebag Paul Krugman.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:39 | 3303638 DaveyJones
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don't bite the maggots

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:40 | 3303640 kito
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perhaps china can help.............we take their second born for adoption and they take our homeless for their ghost win................................

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:59 | 3303676 Lord Of Finance
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Now that is a great trade!


  We import victims of a communist dictatorship, and export victims of a socialist one.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:37 | 3304101 mt paul
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and you thought horse meat was bad

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:48 | 3303655 Hohum
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Why the article?  ZHers on the whole don't give a shit about poor people.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:53 | 3303664 Freddie
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What makes you think that?   Most ZH'ers hate the elites and banksters who the left and Obummer march in facist lockstep with Buffett et al.

I love how lefties often hate holy rollers. This is when the people I have seen doing the most for the homeless are usually churches and no - I am not that religious.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:59 | 3303682 Hohum
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No argument that churches do a lot for the homeless.  Look at the comments here, though.  It's not tragic or sad; it's a chance to attack government policies again.  Now policies should be attacked, but the ZH vibe isn't compassion.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:01 | 3303694 kito
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with a name like hohum, im not sure you are one to talk..........................

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:12 | 3303727 Dr. Engali
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It's because government policies are the root of the problem. That's why they get attacked..

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:32 | 3303762 Hohum
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Dr. Engali,

That's interesting.  So if we just let global capitalism unfettered, the poor, homeless population would plummet, yes?  Or are you saying a more local/regional based economy would employ lots of people?  Seems to me that Paul Krugman, Mitt Romney, and Ron Paul all want the global version.  And the global version isn't going to employ the masses.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 09:17 | 3304282 _ConanTheLibert...
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Yes, indeed the homeless pop. would plummet. Because these people would easily make some money.

Take a look at Argentina. The relatively poor people there are allowed by the local cops to run a lemonade stand or whatever.

Crime would go down a lot because people would hardly have an incentive to misbehave.

Real capitalism has proven it works. It's the only real social solution.


There will be so many relatively rich people that there will be enough charity money will help the poor which are unable to earn money.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 10:52 | 3304596 Hohum
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Lemonade stands.  Sounds like a plan.

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Wed, 03/06/2013 - 01:38 | 3303834 Freddie
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No it is sad, tragic and heartbreaking beyond words.  I cannot speak for everyone here but I am sure most of the posters here (in USA and other countries) despise the politicians, banksters and european bankster families who caused this because they always do this.

The EUSSR and USSA are crony, crypto, klepto facism and socialism.  Look at Detroit or East St Louis or Camden NJ.   Absolute despair but if they just steal a little more money (taxes) from everyone, they will fix it this time.  I am sure people posting here have friends, family or themselves who have fallen or who are falling in this nightmare.  I am exhausted trying to save people from falling and now I have to worry for myself.  Waking up another day knowing nothing will get better and another small freedom is taken away from you each day by these evil criminals.  What makes it even worse is the sheep don't see it because they are brainwashed by TV, the newsmedia and Hollywood.

The same shit in western Europe as well.   Corrupt politicians stealing from the public in concert with the banksters/elites.  We loathe and hate these people because they spread MISERY to the masses.  We show our compassion in our absolute contempt for this people who caused this and who are causing this.  An let's not forget TV, the newsmedia and Hollywood who support ALL of this and cover for these criminals who spread misery to the average person in Europe, USA, Asia, et al.

Peace to you.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:18 | 3303901 Miffed Microbio...
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Thanks for that Freddie. That was very kind and thoughtful. I also am exhausted and worried about so many people. The numbers in my case are growing daily and I too do not have the resources to help them all. Even though there is a lot of anger here and palpable frustration, I've never got the feeling people are uncaring. The vehement emotions come because they DO care strongly about the situation. Honestly, in my experience, the only people who drive me insane are the apathetic,mind-numbed robots who are just roaming around looking for their next entertainment fix. They don't understand me, I don't understand them and it's best for both of us to stay clear of one another.

I've been seeing a dramatic rise in diseases in homeless people now, especially tuberculosis. More and more young homeless are out there then ever before. Many have STDs, hep, HIV. At first you think these are just people who made shitty decisions. Then you read their charts and discover many are just trying to survive on the streets dealing drugs and turning tricks. This is not a lifestyle of choice. Some had family members commit suicide because they couldn't get a job and now they're on the streets. The whole thing is just horrific to watch. The people who created this scenario are the uncaring ones and I hope they rot in hell for it.


Wed, 03/06/2013 - 05:27 | 3304060 Parrotile
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You work in San Diego - hardly "Central", in (what used to be) the World's wealthiest nation.

Now extrapolate what you see today to the rest of the World, with regularly reported spread of untrteatable killer diseases (I'm thinking TDR-TB (or XXDR as the WHO prefers), along with many Gram -ves (Klebsiellas, Coliforms), Gram +ves (Staph of all flavours), and let's not forget those as yet unknown threats "waiting in the wings" - e.g. SARS.

Add in the unpalatable fact that in the Third World (where the majority of the Global population reside) we see the greatest trafficking of downright "No-Content" fake, or at least highly substandard antibiotics (Abx being THE most counterfeited pharmaceutical class outside the 1st World economies), and you'll surely understand why my main concern isn't financial armageddon, but the certainty of a "Real Leveller" Global multi-organism pandemic.

This HAS happened in the past, and WILL happen again in the future. Shaving funding on Programmes that are "invisible" to the Public is easy, so everywhere (USA, EU, Everywhere) is seeing "funding restrictions" - even in relatively OK Australia (hey the GFC hasn't arrived here yet - we're a few decades behind the rest of the planet!).

Less surveillance = less warning; less strategic spending = less emergent capacity; less co-operation = disaster waiting to happen!

Hope you enjoyed your Aussie trip - sorry about our unseasonally "Strange Weather" - do come back (and bring your Tourist $$s with you of course!!!)


Thu, 03/07/2013 - 02:40 | 3307910 Miffed Microbio...
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Absolutely Parrotile. I am speaking relatively of course. Due to the proximity to Mexico and the presence of a large military, San Diego has always been a sentinel city. We spend millions on TB surveillance and compliance yearly. I just read about a large outbreak of TB in LA. I don't think any XDR strains were involved but it is quite worrisome. India is home to such a large population of people infected with XDR TB, I'm just waiting for one to come over on a work visa and start the Armageddon in this country. We had 3 cases of Potts in Indians last year ( none, thank god XDR ) all here on work visas. Though it gives me no pleasure to agree with you, I must. The plaque will come be it SARS like viral, bacterial (carbapenem enterbacteriaceae) or H5N1 influenza pandemic. I don't dare guess but it will come mostly likely with in the next 20 yrs I'm sure of it. I'm not a prophetess but the landscape it ripe for it. You have a incredibly sick population in the USA propping themselves up with a battery of drugs. Misuse of antibiotics in people and livestock. World wide travel to nations with highly resistant strains making any outbreak impossible to contain. Pt zero may be on a flight as we speak. Where I sit I will have a front row seat watching it start but that won't save me. People have no idea how bad it will be!

On a happier note we had a wonderful time in Australia and new Zealand. Sydney was quite expensive as you forewarned! Luckily my husbands company picked up a good part of it. You certainly don't need out tourist dollars! My goodness it was booming there. I asked a shopkeeper for the scoop and she said it was China. " they're buying our minerals" we're her exact words. Certainly nice not to see empty shops. Enjoy your boom.

We had a great laugh at the rivalry between Aussies and new zealanders. Our host joked with us saying " didn't you notice all the birds in Australia were flying upside down? There's nothing worth shitting on in that country!"
We had a great relax and it was so husband almost had to hog tie me up and throw me on the plane for our return. Hopefully we'll return soon but next year is my husbands turn to pick vacations and I have a feeling we'll be skiing in Colorado or Utah. I don't ski as well as he so my part will be trying not to break my neck and drinking in the lodge to celebrate my survival! Nice hearing from you.


Thu, 03/07/2013 - 03:59 | 3307966 Parrotile
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Good to hear you enjoyed the trip!

The Metropolitan areas are always "wealth spots", but once you travel further afield, you'll soon see significant lack of investment and a much poorer standard of living, especially in the Northern Territory.

I'd like to think your 20 years is a pessimistic view, but in reality it's probably optimistic.

Considering just how Society Worldwide will react to a REAL biological disaster really does not bear thinking about. One of my colleagues calls this scenario "The Black Death on Steroids" and he's probably underestimating the impact.

Just keep an eye on the reviews, journals, and the WHO website I suppose (and keep our fingers' crossed!!)

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 10:54 | 3304599 Hohum
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Good to see one who cares.  I hope there are many other ZHers like you, though I doubt it.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 03:50 | 3303998 Nobody For President
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Freddie, I have read a lot of your posts, which tend toward 'hate the muslim president' stuff, but this is actually a quite sane post - have you been hittin' the bottle? Good summary of a lot of ZH sub-text.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 05:35 | 3304063 Rogue Trooper
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You have spoken for many of us Freddie. A kind and thoughtful post.  Everyone on ZH may not agree (that's actually a good thing) with everything but most do care. The ZH readership understand where this is heading and it will not be pretty.

No one gets through this without some kind of loss.

These state worshiping bastards are the problem and through their blind idology and/or psychotic diseased minds they are, through their actions, making the eventual days of reckoning infinitely worse than it need be.

My one hope is that enough live through it that at least some of them will be called to account and pay for the atrocities, suffering, death and destruction they have wrought.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 23:40 | 3307536 Freddie
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Thanks gents and ladies. We are so tired of seeing friends, families, strangers falling. Older people, baby boomers, young people, children and others with almost no hope.   The tears have run out for these people falling and we average people cannot catch or help all of them or even a few.   And every day they pass another illegal law to take away a little more freedom.

Same thing in Europe where the evil elites and banksters and bankster families get Europeans hating each other so they kill each other for profit.  Two horrible wars where English boys killed German boys who are almost identical. They drink beer, play football, went to sea as sea faring nations.  And then the banksters get each other to kill each other for health return on their money or maybe we the banksters can steal someone's gold.

The poor Chinese peasants who have their little home and farm stolen for a new empty high rise.  If they speak up they are killed or beaten up.  The North Koreans who are worked to death while the richer S Korean politcians look the other way and China takes advantage of their slave labor as does Russia.

I am sick of people be exploited and hurt while the scum on Tv, Hollywood and the media defend all this shit in the Senate, White Hut, EUSSR, Banksters, the wonderfully clever communist Chinese govt that is a model for the world.  The lib Tv reporters think the Chinese govt is the wonder pf the world as someone who speaks up gets arresed in China, gets a bullet in the head and their organs harvested on the spot.

So sad.  Yeah I hate these people who step on the little people.  The Kurugmans, Buffets, Pelosis, McCains, Clintons, Bushes, Jarretts, Harry Reid, Schumer, Dimon, Bernake and all the other evil scum.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 19:19 | 3306618 RealeyesRealize
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Well, yes, and no. I'll keep it real here and say the large percentage of homeless people are assholes.  When I say that, I mean they have written off everyone in their life at some point, mostly for booze/drugs, and failed to interpret said events proactively to ensure a better path for future growth. 

Instead, most don't care, and are in it for them and them only, drinking or what have you.  Being homesless is last resort, no options left type deal.  I mean, it's heartbreaking and sad in every way, but the reality of it is, no one came and forced them into being homeless.  Takes a whole heap of bad events strung along over time to end up there, alot of which I feel most of us can prepare for to prevent. 


I've worked and helped the homeless many times, Just the reality of it.  It is what it is. 

Some are good people, I believe everyone is good from the star, with good intentions and what not.  There is the thin selection of few who were good hard working people, with no drug/bad habits, who do end up that way.  BUT, thats not the majority of them.  When they can't help themselves, YOU can't even help them from the core of the issue that got them there- as much as we'd love to believe it.  As much as we'd also love to help for long term prosperity.  I am not a cold hearted person or anything like, that so I stress these points so you all don't get up my ass over speaking honestly here.

Hell theres 2 that live in the state park behind my house.  I see them occassionally while playing disc golf with my buddies. I would gladly give em the money in my pocket (probably wouldn't be more then $40 at the time) if they even asked, because- they NEED it. I have never seen bottles or drinking from them ever, even when walking all 18 holes. Camping out in the woods in cold of the night is horrible I know.  They are friendly with us and our neighbors.  Some of them give them sandwiches, leftovers, etc.  On thanksgiving eve I made a extra plate of food and found one to give it to. 


Not very social types, but hope the best for em.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:07 | 3303887 dark pools of soros
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Oh my if they just had a crack house to live in it would be better... ZHers know these fucks don't have shit to look forward to.. You really wish for them to get an 8 dollar an hour job and give it all towards some shitty slave life?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:45 | 3304163 StychoKiller
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Well then, get thee hence and alleviate some suffering:


Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:55 | 3303661 SillySalesmanQu...
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Fuck CBS News. They interviewed a trader at NYSE about the Dow record today, his quote," The recovery in Europe is getting better every day. The recovery here in the U.S. is slow but steady, housing is taking off and growth for the economy will increase steadily for the rest of the year" What a douchebag! CBS is even a bigger douchebag for airing this. May they all descend into a septic tank like the pieces of shit that they are.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:59 | 3303681 zebra
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Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:01 | 3303690 lunaticfringe
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We take in 2.3 trillion per year in taxes.

We overspend by 1.2 trillion per year+ Captain Numb Nuts prints 1.1 trillion a year to buy mortgages and treasuries.

Therefore we add 2.3 trillion of debt each year. 

So they are simply transferring the wealth of tomorrow to the elite of today. The answer of course is to quit paying taxes, enmasse. But then the sheep just don't have the balls for that. 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:54 | 3303666 lunaticfringe
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Ludwig von Mises – Austrian Economist (1881- 1973)

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:31 | 3303760 IridiumRebel
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Can we wait on this whole collapse biz until I close on my house April 1st?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:00 | 3303876 Just Ice
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Who the heck would pick that date?  Someone wanted the transaction to be an April Fool's prank?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 03:54 | 3304001 Nobody For President
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I got married on April 1st - coming up 43 years ago!

Great Prank!

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:12 | 3303895 Mr. Saxby
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I'm not sure about The End Game, but I think this is most definitely a key transitional period. We've devolved into an oligarchy in everything but name, but I believe that even maintaining the illusion of democracy and free markets has become tiresome for the elite. Thus, we're seeing their favorite form of wealth transfer, the asset bubble, before they pull the plug. You know the drill--something crisis will be engineered, by "terrorists" or similar foolishness, to justify whatever it is they are planning to push us further towards slavery.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:55 | 3303671 judejin
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guys, calm down. know the feeling of doubly fucked? i grew up in china listening to Voice of america, hating the communists, and then went to nyc for an american dream. but only to find out that america is ruled by evil people 10 times worse than the communists. so i'm disillusioned twice in my short life.

i, like many people, suspected that the 911 terrorists got a helping hand from the inside. but now, after reading many 911 researches and reviews by engineers and professors, i'm totally conviced that 911 is totaly an inside job!

US leaders plotted and executed 911 themselves killing 3000 civilians in order to promoto their own agenda.

what a world we live in, folks?!

is there any use of stacking gold/silver when the evil people could launch nuclear wars to accomplish the cover-up or domination or NWO when dollar collapses?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:01 | 3303693 zebra
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hear hear

u r not alone

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:40 | 3304104 mt paul
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was urban renewal

for fun and profit..

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 23:56 | 3303672 judejin
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guys, calm down. know the feeling of doubly fucked? i grew up in china listening to Voice of america, hating the communists, and then went to nyc for an american dream. but only to find out that america is ruled by evil people 10 times worse than the communists. so i'm disillusioned twice in my short life.

i, like many people, suspected that the 911 terrorists got a helping hand from the inside. but now, after reading many 911 researches and reviews by engineers and professors, i'm totally conviced that 911 is totaly an inside job!

US leaders plotted and executed 911 themselves killing 3000 civilians in order to promoto their own agenda.

what a world we live in, folks?!

is there any use of stacking gold/silver when the evil people could launch nuclear wars to accomplish the cover-up or domination or NWO when dollar collapses?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:19 | 3304087 Cortez the Killer
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go back to china you rat chink

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:58 | 3304176 mvsjcl
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Hey, Cortez! What are you doing here? Aren't there more brown people out there for you to kill?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:41 | 3304109 mt paul
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if amerika government

had not blown up them towers

the homeless could be living there

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:03 | 3303680 tony bonn
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these homeless and hungry people are the damnation of the banksters and plutocrats....luxuriating on the finest lvmh goodies money can buy.....

"...inasmuch as ye have given unto the least of these, ye have given unto me...", jesus, c. 27 AD

and fuck all you stingy calloused assholes who begrudge people help and welfare when they need it.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:05 | 3303700 gaoptimize
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 "The majority of those polled, 51%, think the country will plunge into a depression rivaling the 1930’s in the next five years. This number rose from 43% in January."

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:10 | 3303719 Dr. Engali
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We have been in a depression. Food stamps and homeless shelters help cover up that fact.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:05 | 3303702 Mercury
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Can't Bloomberg just outlaw homeless people?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:27 | 3303753 IridiumRebel
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He picks them up and ships them me.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:28 | 3303757 lolmao500
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Or order the LAPD to kill a few in front of everybody, the rest will GTFO. And the cops who shoot them will get a few weeks of paid vacation and maybe even a promotion!

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 11:30 | 3304754 Tango in the Blight
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Maybe he can ask Antonio Villaraigosa to order the NYPD to do the same.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:05 | 3303703 Spastica Rex
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This is good, right? The useless eaters aren't being rewarded for their laziness.

St. Ayn would be proud.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:23 | 3304089 Cortez the Killer
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Indeed.  Unfortunately they are being denied valuable clues that would lead to a change in behaviour.

why spend your time productively when govt. will give you everything for free.

St. Ayn was decades ahead of her time

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:15 | 3303730 Yen Cross
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   The Wall Street scum will be begging the homeless for survival skills soon enough. What comes around goes around Bitchez<>

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:37 | 3303769 q99x2
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Better not come to my 711.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:50 | 3303792 Yen Cross
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 That was funny. +1

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:17 | 3303734 ABG LINE
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Just BTFD.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:27 | 3303752 haskelslocal
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I'm just glad the Koch brothers brought in $9B each last year on the back of federal grants, loopholes and subsidies.

You to Mr. Bloomberg. Nice going!

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:27 | 3303755 lolmao500
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Anyone REALLY believes that homelessness is going down nationwide? LOL

In other news, another day, another Chinese provocation...

2 China ships entered Japan waters near disputed islands, according to Kyodo
Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:34 | 3303766 q99x2
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Nuremberg for Politicians and Bernanke too.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:37 | 3303770 Antifaschistische
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I can't think of a better place to care for the homeless.


Wed, 03/06/2013 - 00:48 | 3303787 XitSam
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NYC homeless? Hasn't Occupy Wall Street moved back to their parents basement yet?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 01:10 | 3303807 ekm
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If gasoline were cheap, they'd be using old cars to go and find work somewhere else. It's called MOBILITY.


Now they are stuck in New York, nowhere to go, ZERO MOBILITY.


Anybody thought, why do they stay in New York? Why don't they move somewhere else?

Answer: They have no funds. Everything is so expensive due to ENERGY BEING SO EXPENSIVE, input prices.


That's what happens when the gov prints trillions. Trillions go and park themselves into energy in storage, hence homeless in NY get stuck due to lack of cheap energy.


Cheap Energy = High Mobility

Expensive Energy = Low Mobility

Energy in Hyperinflation = Zero Mobility = Homelessness

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 01:56 | 3303865 Pike Bishop
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Fuck it. It's 1937. Everybody is going to be grabbing their ankles soon.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:00 | 3303874 reader2010
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No jobs around? That can't be true cause I just saw NSA's job ads popping up right here at ZH.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 02:36 | 3303927 dunce
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Don't worry about those children, the mayor is all over the problem with dietary restrictions and gun control schemes.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 04:11 | 3304014 goldenbuddha454
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Homeless is not the PC Term, it is 'Premises Challenged'.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 06:53 | 3304118 Bicycle Repairman
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You guys just do not understand austerity.  The harder we fuck the homeless the better the economy will do. 

Now shut the fuck up and grab that broom handle.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:12 | 3304128 Oldwood
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So where do all of the homeless people keep their guns?

Seriously though, so many are concentrating on weapons for self defence, but when we lose everything and find ourselves on the street, we likely will be forced to sell our guns and ammo for the need of money but also no place to keep them, especially in cities like NY where its almost impossible to carry.

Everything is going the way they have planned it. Bring us to our knees. By the time we are really ready to stand up to them, it will be too late.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:34 | 3304153 Racer
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As long as Dow is at all time highs they don't give a sh!t about real people

Trickle down effect in its true yellow glory.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 07:46 | 3304165 Monedas
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Why don't they just sleep on the beach .... like they do in Mexico .... Camarena .... cama (bed) .... arena (sand) ?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 08:00 | 3304177 Johnny Moscow
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I'm sure the mainstream media will be all over this 24-7, blaming Bloomberg and by extension Obama, just like they did when Regan and Bush I were in office. Wait, they aren't? Oh never mind....nothing to see here...move along people everything is ok...

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 08:23 | 3304212 booboo
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Ever since the State declared "War" on poverty, drugs, terrorism, ect, they have all without a doubt,  become a larger problem by ten fold requiring more and more of the citizens resources, freedom and lives.  See the problem here?

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 09:22 | 3304295 the not so migh...
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Time to harvest some organs

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 09:50 | 3304394 NEOSERF
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Those two charts are a striking example of how national numbers are manipulated to show "recovery" but the local numbers tell an entirely different story.  Lots of jobs in fracking in North Dakota, warm up the Bolt busses.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 10:41 | 3304559 d edwards
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The only reason you don't see breadlines circa 1930's is now everybody on the dole gets a SNAP card.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 11:35 | 3304790 Tango in the Blight
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The more folks that sign up for SNAP the bigger Jamie Dimon's bonus becomes.

"That's why I'm richer than you!"


Wed, 03/06/2013 - 13:43 | 3305274 j8h9
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The irony of seeing a SAVE THE CHILDREN banner ad on the righthand side of this page... yea, send your money to Africa when we have 21,000 homeless children in NYC alone. I'll bet if they were all blue eyed blond haired little white girls, the priorities would be very different. But hey, Israel needs the billions in aid we send every year and the billions in military costs to protect their very little country.

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