Guest Post: Corporatism - State-Controlled Capitalism

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Corporatism: A System Of Control Designed By The Monopoly Men Of The Global Elite

The Dow is at a record high and so are corporate profits - so why does it feel like most of the country is deeply suffering right now?  Real household income is the lowest that it has been in a decade, poverty is absolutely soaring, 47 million Americans are on food stamps and the middle class is being systematically destroyed.  How can big corporations be doing so well while most American families are having such a hard time?  Isn't their wealth supposed to "trickle down" to the rest of us?  Unfortunately, that is not how the real world works.

Today, most big corporations are trying to minimize the number of "expensive" American workers on their payrolls as much as they can.  If the big corporation that is employing you can figure out a way to replace you with a worker in China or with a robot, it will probably do it.  Corporations are in existence to maximize wealth for their shareholders, and most of the time the largest corporations are dominated by the monopoly men of the global elite.  Over the decades, the politicians that have their campaigns funded by these monopoly men have rigged the game so that the big corporations are able to easily dominate everything.  But this was never what those that founded this country intended. 

America was supposed to be a place where the power of collectivist institutions would be greatly limited, and individuals and small businesses would be free to compete in a capitalist system that would reward anyone that had a good idea and that was willing to work hard.  But today, our economy is completely and totally dominated by a massively bloated federal government and by absolutely gigantic predator corporations that are greatly favored by our massively bloated federal government.  Our founders tried to warn us about the dangers of allowing government, banks and corporations to accumulate too much power, but we didn't listen.  Now they dominate everything, and the rest of us are fighting for table scraps.

In early America, most states had strict laws governing the size and scope of corporations.  Individuals and small businesses thrived in such an environment, and the United States experienced a period of explosive economic growth.  We showed the rest of the world that capitalism really works, and we eventually built the largest middle class that the world had ever seen.

But now we have replaced capitalism with something that I like to call "corporatism".  In many ways, it shares a lot of characteristics with communism, and that is why nations such as communist China have embraced it so readily.  Under "corporatism", monolithic predator corporations run around sucking up as much wealth and economic power as they possibly can.  Most individuals and small businesses cannot compete and end up getting absorbed by the corporations.  These mammoth collectivist institutions are in private hands rather than in government hands (as would be the case under a pure form of communism), but the results are pretty much the same either way.  A tiny elite at the top gets almost all of the economic rewards.

There are some out there that would suggest that the answer to our problems is to move more in the direction of "socialism", but to be honest that wouldn't be the solution to anything.  It would just change how the table scraps that the rest of us are getting are distributed.

If we truly wanted a return to prosperity, we need to dramatically shift the rules of the game so that they are tilted back in favor of individuals and small businesses.  A much more pure form of capitalism would mean more wealth, less poverty and a more equitable distribution of the economic rewards in this country.

But it will never happen.  Most of our politicians are married to the big corporations and the wealthy elitists that fund their campaigns.  And most Americans are so uneducated that they believe that what we actually have today is "capitalism" and that the only alternative is to go "to the left" toward socialism.

Very few people out there are suggesting that we need to greatly reduce the power of the federal government and greatly reduce the power of the big corporations, but that is exactly what we need to do.  We need to give individuals and small businesses room to breathe once again.

With each passing year, things get even worse.  In fact, the founder of Subway Restaurants recently said that the environment for small businesses is so toxic in America today that he never would have been able to start Subway if he had to do it today.

For much more on how small business is being strangled to death in the United States, please see my previous article entitled "We Are Witnessing The Death Of Small Business In America".

What I want to do now is to discuss some of the results that "corporatism" is producing in America.

First of all, we continue to see incomes go down even though we live in an inflationary economy.

As Time Magazine recently reported, personal incomes took a huge nosedive during the month of January...

Data released by the Commerce Department last week showed that personal income fell 3.6% in January, the biggest decline in 20 years. The drop was even bigger when taxes and inflation are taken into account. Real personal disposable income fell by 4%, the biggest monthly drop in half a century.

But this is part of a longer term trend.  Median household income in the U.S. has declined for four consecutive years, and it is now significantly lower than it was all the way back in 2001...

Real median US household income -- that's "real," as in "adjusted for inflation" -- was $50,054 in 2011, the most recent data available from the US Census Bureau. That's 8% lower than the 2007 peak of $54,489.

Meanwhile, big corporations are absolutely raking in the cash.  The following is from a recent New York Times article...

“So far in this recovery, corporations have captured an unusually high share of the income gains,” said Ethan Harris, co-head of global economics at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. “The U.S. corporate sector is in a lot better health than the overall economy. And until we get a full recovery in the labor market, this will persist.”

 

The result has been a golden age for corporate profits, especially among multinational giants that are also benefiting from faster growth in emerging economies like China and India.

Today, corporate profits as a percentage of U.S. GDP are at an all-time high, but wages as a percentage of U.S. GDP are near an all-time low.

Just check out the following chart.  Corporate profits have absolutely exploded over the past decade...

Corporate Profits After Tax

Meanwhile, wages as a percentage of GDP continue to fall rapidly...

Wages And Salaries As A Percentage Of GDP

Most of the jobs being created in America today are "low wage" jobs.  Tens of millions of Americans are working as hard as they can only to find that they can barely put food on the table and provide a roof over the heads of their children.  The ranks of the "working poor" are exploding and the middle class continues to shrink.

Many of you that are reading this article are members of the working poor.  You know what it is like to stare up at your ceiling at night wondering how you are going to pay the bills next month.

Today, most Americans are living very close to the edge financially.  A recent article by NBC News staff writer Allison Linn shared some of their stories.  The following is one example...

Crystal Dupont knows what it’s like to try to live on the federal minimum wage.

Dupont has no health insurance, so she hasn’t seen a doctor in two years. She’s behind on her car payments and has taken out pawn shop and payday loans to cover other monthly expenses. She eats beans and oatmeal when her food budget gets low.

 

When she got her tax refund recently, she used the money to get ahead on her light bill.

 

“I try to live within my means, but sometimes you just can’t,” said Dupont, 25. The Houston resident works 30 to 40 hours a week taking customer service calls, earning between $7.25 and $8 an hour. That came to about $15,000 last year.

 

It’s a wage she’s lived on for a while now, but just barely.

Sadly, the number of Americans that are "just barely" surviving continues to grow.

But if corporate profits are soaring to unprecedented heights, then who is getting all of those rewards?

The monopoly men of the global elite are.

Just check out the following video which does a great job of illustrating how corporatism has systematically funneled all of the economic rewards in our system to the very top...

Once again, I want to make it very clear that I am not advocating socialism as the answer in any way, shape or form.  Socialism takes away the incentive to create wealth and it almost always results in almost all of the economic rewards going to a very tiny elite anyway.

As I said earlier, what we need is a return to a much more pure form of capitalism, but this is so foreign to the way that most people think that most people will not be able to grasp this.

It certainly would be possible to greatly reduce the power of the federal government and greatly reduce the power of the big corporations at the same time, but this is so "outside the box" for most people that they cannot even conceive of doing such a thing.

We need to create an environment where individuals and small businesses can thrive once again.  But instead, most of us are content to continue "playing the game" and getting enslaved in even more debt.

For example, according to CNBC, auto loans just continue to get larger and continue to get stretched out for longer periods of time...

American car buyers, attracted by new models and cheap financing, are taking out bigger auto loans and stretching out the terms of those loans to a new record length.

New analysis from Experian Automotive shows the average new car loan in the fourth quarter of last year was $26,691 and stretched out over an average of 65 months. The length of the average loan is one month longer than the previous record set in the third quarter of last year.

What will they think of next?

Will we eventually have auto loans that get paid off over 10 years?

By the way, that is another way that the monopoly men of the global elite get all of our money.  They enslave us to debt, and we spend year after year of our lives slaving away to make them even wealthier.

They are very smart.  There is a reason why they have 32 TRILLION dollars stashed away in offshore tax havens.  They know how to play the game, and they are very happy that most of the rest of us are asleep.

Fortunately, it appears that an increasing number of Americans are waking up.

For example, I wanted to share with you all an excerpt from a comment that one of my readers left on one of my recent articles...

In the past year, I've been slowly but surely waking up to the nonsense happening around me. There's so many things I need to simply get off my chest, so excuse the length of this post. Recently in the past two years, I've gotten married and have been medically discharged from the Marines after being injured in Afghanistan. Being 23 years old and married, my goal is secure a secure a future for my family, but with the way things are going, I'm not exactly sure how much of a future we're going to have in 50 years. I can't explain it, but I've felt this need to change my attitude and motivations lately.

 

I started by turning off the garbage music, television and other mindless entertainment that seems to plague my generation. It was easier than it looked - I don't miss most of it really. The next order of business was to educate myself on world news, so that's what I did. Every day, like clockwork, I check all major mainstream news feeds (NBC, Fox, Abc, CNN, Reuters, BBC, etc.) as well as not-so-mainstream news sites - yours being one of them. It's incredible how fast our world changes and the manner in which it changes. The local 10 o'clock doesn't show anything but local news, sports, weather, lottery #'s and whatever else they decide to throw in. It's a night and day difference once you start to actually research and see what's happening all over the world. Look at the number of comments about a news story on the economy and then look at a celebrity story on the "news"....People are so blind, it truly amazes me.

 

My friends, family and classmates at college seem to be under a spell of some sort. They're distracted - and it's contagious. Nobody I know gives a damn about global affairs/economics. They're more interested in the newest iPhone, cars, shows, movies, and just about anything else you can think of. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with these things, but my friends/family/peers are CONSUMED by these distractions. When the election was taking place in 2012, every Tom, Dick and Harry on Facebook had an opinion and rant. After the circus ended however, everyone simply went back to posting about parties, kittens, Farmville etc. It's a huge joke.

 

For me, it's little terrifying and exciting to see history unfolding in front of our eyes. This country of ours is going through big changes now that will most certainly affect our future, so I strive to adapt and prepare myself and my family. I'm looking at buying my first home this summer. Right now I live in an apartment right outside Philly and spend more money on rent than most pay for a mortgage. I need a house with a little land to raise chickens, grow fruits/vegetables, store canned food - and to be as independent from the system as I can. For my job, I wanted a skill/trade that people would always need, so I picked the funeral business. On the side, I work in construction and have been learning everything there is to know about building with my own two hands. I feel as though these old forgotten skills are going to be handy in a short while.

Hopefully we can get a lot more people to wake up and start breaking out of "the matrix" of control that is all around us.

Right now, the system is designed to continually funnel more money and more power to the very top of the pyramid.  The global elite are becoming more dominant with each passing day.  Unless something dramatic happens, at some point the American people will become so powerless that they won't be able to do anything about it even if they wanted to.

The idea of a very tiny elite completely dominating all the rest of us goes against everything that America is supposed to stand for.  In the end, it will result in absolute tyranny if it is not stopped.

Who Runs The World - Solid Proof That A Core Group Of Wealthy Elitists Are Pulling The Strings

 
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Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:12 | 3317106 falak pema
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well said, but how do you do that UNLESS you win back the state?

Only the people can achieve that and it has to be via state and rule of law. Without the state under people nothing is possible. 

This is something ZH by and large does not understand. 

1° New paradigm definition 

2° Leadership and ground swell

3° Take the Congress

4° Change the laws

5° Implement them into new society. 

S : I won't split hairs about Oligarchy and crony state, who leads who follows. Suffice to say they are on same page and its corpo-state combine. 

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:22 | 3317119 Manthong
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Progress will not be made until the focus of the dialog changes from “fairness” and “equality” to truth and justice.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:28 | 3317151 max2205
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Would bother me if the govt would get at least 36% tax rate out of these robbing corp

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:39 | 3317175 Ignatius
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"State-Controlled Capitalism" ...in a corporate controlled state.

There, finished the sentence.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:50 | 3317190 OutLookingIn
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A state controlled by corporatist's, corporatism?

Lets call it what it REALLY IS - FACISM.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:59 | 3317200 mikla
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+1

Let's quit pretending we're inventing new names and new terms for new ideas.

Fascism is exactly what we have, in the clinical sense.  We all know what that means, and what results from practicing it.

Hint:  Massive capital mis-allocation, resulting in lower wealth for society, but increased (concentrated) wealth and power for the political elite; ultimately resulting in the necessity to murder millions to accomodate the net loss in societal wealth and prosperity.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:06 | 3317222 SafelyGraze
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"give me control of a nation's sports reporting, and I care not who makes its laws"

- you-know-who 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/writers/richard_rothschild/archive/

 

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 21:06 | 3318174 Spirit Of Truth
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Since when has corporate fascism been the true will of the people?  Maybe it's time for this tyranny to meet its demise:

http://www.secondkoreanwar.com

The "Old Enemy" never went away....just changed its colors for a time.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 22:56 | 3318392 Imminent Crucible
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It is easy to conclude that the endgame is "a very tiny elite completely dominating all the rest of us in absolute tyranny". That's what TPTB intend.

But, as the great moral philosopher Mick Jagger noted, You can't always get what you want. I do not believe that's where we end up, because there are always (gasp) Unintended Consequences. Why do you suppose that the despotism and the contempt for the Constitution have become so open, so brazen today? Homeland Security tanks, billions of bullets, and tactical shotguns for the IRS? Is it because the elites are supremely confident, and everything is going to according to plan? I don't think so.

I think it is desperation; the wheels are coming off the Global Fiat Ponzi. Masses of people have filled the streets in Iran, in Greece, in Egypt, in Libya, in Spain, in China, in a dozen other countries, and the milling crowds are becoming more belligerent by the day. The pitiful Overlords let things get out of hand, and their banks collapsed. It was revealed: The central bankers have no clothes. I watched the sweat streams glistening on Bernanke's hairless cranium as he was grilled by Senator Garrett. The Euro bankers are a penniless clown-car troupe. Beppe Grillo is rousing the rabble, a new Georgio Carlini. The Hippy-Dippy Weather Underground, for those who remember Laugh-In.

No, I think we get something else. Slowly, painfully, but inexorably the people are beginning to wake up from their long Hollywood-induced slumber and realize that they've been screwed over and their future is gone. When they are fully awake, they are going to be SO pissed.  Do you not notice how politicians and bankers now rarely or never appear in public anymore? No one ever knows the route for the presidential motorcade? That's because they're afraid to show their faces in public. They hide behind heavy security and TV cameras. They know they are Public Enemy Number One.

I'm pretty confident that what we have to look forward to is very little like Brave New World, and much more like Wild West anarchy. The ability of governments to control the masses is fading. That's why we have huge TSA contingents, swelling Homeland Security divisions and every broke-ass little town has a SWAT team and full tactical gear. You can smell the fear.

Pretty soon the government will be forced to command us, "Americans! Give us your last dollars."  And the people will say Molon Labe, you bastards.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 15:36 | 3317404 Lednbrass
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No, it isn't. Alot of people like to throw Fascism around, but as a point of reality neither Fascism or its somewhat similar spinoff Nazism resulted in anything like what we have today.

If you are correct, it should be quite simple for you or anyone else to  show that those political systems resulted in what we have in the US today.  What hard evidence do you have that either system shifted vast amounts of wealth in the manner of what we see now?

None- because neither case resulted in this.  The entire argument rests on twisting a single comment by Mussolini while ignoring that what constituted a corporation in 1920's and 30's Italy isn't very much like what constitutes a corporation in 2013.

So, what do you have to show that either system created an economic system or situation anything like we have here? What data do any of you have to back up your case?

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 18:42 | 3317718 mikla
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Fascism is the public/private "partnering" resulting in authoritarian control.  The elegance with Fascism is that the State does not need to (outright) "seize" private industry; rather, they have "partnered" with private industry such that they become indistinguishable from each other.

Now, economic activity is forced "by law" (not because it makes sense individually, or collectively).

But, this partnering is only with the very largest corporations.  Small-cap and mid-cap cannot play because they can't establish the same lobbying infrastructure.  Small-cap and mid-cap are forced to merge with large-cap (see the healthcare and banking sectors), or be made outright illegal (e.g., regulations sponsored by large-cap are passed to ensure small/mid-size businesses cannot operate).  

The result is capital mis-allocation because it is based on central planning (e.g., totalitarianism), and a fleecing-of-the-public for truly stupid things provided by large companies that the public would never want, except when forced to pay for at gunpoint (Solyndra, etc.)

This is the same as other stupid capital-mis-allocation ideas by any fascist dictator, which "spends" the public's money "for their own good" since they clearly are too stupid to spend it on what the dictator thinks important (if the public were given a choice).

The "regulatory-Capture" of the State, as well as the return-on-lobbyists, is very easy to demonstrate.  Similarly, the collapse of the middle-class, the annihilation of savings for Grandma's fixed-income CDs, and the economic collapse worldwide is obvious.

Most interestingly, the Fed and private banks now own more houses, commercial real estate, corporate stocks/bonds, and other assets than at any other time in history.  This is true for both nominal and percent-of-GDP measures.  For a bunch of guys that don't actually build or invent anything, it's an amazing achievement.

We can debate the term, "Fascism".  However, there is no denying that the centrally-planned economy, worldwide, is making everyone poorer.  Economists don't see that, because they fundamentally do not understand "debt", and "debt-servicing".  But, in absolute terms (and percentage-terms), societal wealth is declining.  The astounding unemployment numbers world-wide are so bad, they are hard to fathom.  When societal wealth gets low enough, we'll need to start firing up the ovens.

For the good of the children.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 19:13 | 3317958 myptofvu
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I'll admit its harder to show but nonetheless its there. In the case of hard dollars you won't se the money trail because its future money being drained and given to the elite, so until the bill comes due for the next generations you won't see the money trail.

Other methods of favoritism where done incognito by not directly benefitting one party with say a huge contract that you could easlily quantify bit by making rules and regulations so stringent that only the original intended party could qualify for the contract. The result however is the same no matter which way you play it.

Other more direct methods are also happening just look at the TSA backscatter machines. How many competitors were available to bid on that business when a law was all of a sudden passed that you need to have one? And even more directly what about Obamas green energy gifts I mean grants.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:57 | 3317176 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 Manthong

Yes, but, "truth and justice" nowadays are just Obamawords...

The set of problems the original author raises are complicated, but, I would fear a powerful .gov more than corporations.  US corporations, in large part, have fallen from their heights of the 1960s (say, like GM) for many reasons, including technology change and the rise of the rest of the world, which we really CANNOT selfishly prevent.

Of course part of this is just the natural rise and fall that we have seen in History through the millenia...

***

In the bearing business, Timken and their unions just got plain-assed LAZY.  When the big bad foreigners came in, they went and cried to their cronies at the US Dept. of Commerce (R and D administrations) for tariff and quota relief.  Timken has just plain run out of gas to compete in the LARGE variety of bearings used worldwide and is mostly working on BIG bearings and working to keep OUT foreign smaller sizes so they can have an easy monopoly, bitchez.

KOREAN bearing companies impressed me.  Super-modern factories.  Helpful .gov.  Weak unions and a desire to WORK (and they work...).

And Timken?  They won´t even sell to us (to our company in Peru), no interest at all.  So, to hell with ´em, the foreigners treat us much BETTER, we are small, but real here in Peru.

You don´t want our business?  OK, we will find people who do.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:40 | 3317311 OutLookingIn
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Why fear a "powerful government" in the hands of the people?

Your premis should read, 'fear a powerful government under the control of banks and financiers.'

There. Fixed it fer ya!

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:55 | 3317342 DoChenRollingBearing
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Hey, I appreciate your efforts to fix my piece, but I fear any powerful government.  We are now seeing a "tyranny of the majority" as more people take from .gov than pay...  

And I would bet that more people here at ZH are PAYERS rather than TAKERS!  And the takers will continue to take and take and take, until all of the other peoples´ money (ours) is all gone...

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:56 | 3317350 DoChenRollingBearing
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<--- Pay more to .gov than I take, NOT happy!

<--- Take moar money than pay, :) bitchez!

 

Vote early, vote often!

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 16:22 | 3317579 falak pema
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<-- paymore than I receive from government; happy contributor to collectivity. 

<----Receive more than I give and feel unhappy. As I am not a net producer of wealth inspite of education and good life. 

Thats what being free and educated taught me!

The essence of civilization as taught by Aristotle and Jesus Christ : Giving is living and receiving is acceptance of being dependent. So those who give should be proud as they spread well being but never look down on those who receive as with the snap of a thread, a giver can become a receiver, if his destiny changes; such is life. 

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:37 | 3317796 DoChenRollingBearing
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Giving is wonderful when done freely.  Payment because you are coerced to, well not so much.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:15 | 3317237 McMolotov
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Progress will not be made until the focus of the dialog changes from “fairness” and “equality” to truth and justice.

The "dialog" is highly structured, and the words are chosen with extreme precision to elicit a certain response and shape reality. The last century has seen propaganda nearly perfected as an art form.

I've long thought that this country will first experience Brave New World and then 1984. Right now, the masses are kept in line and distracted by entertainment, sex, consumerism, and a plethora of drugs — exactly as Huxley predicted. This makes the herd docile and easy to manage, and it's almost the perfect set-up for what appears to be coming — the world Orwell predicted. Over the years, the words "fairness" and "equality" have been stripped of their original meanings, which only confirms my suspicions. Propaganda lurks behind all of this.

The government is essentially owned — lock, stock, and barrel — by a select few who have immense pools of resources and incredible power. How do we who recognize this compete with them in a "civil" manner, using the tools of government, when those very tools have been turned against us and employed to make de facto enemies of our friends, family, and neighbors? It makes no sense to me. These people want total control, and they won't rest until they've achieved it. Our current trajectory will end in violence, whether we like it or not.

History doesn't necessarily repeat, but it does rhyme, and history has recited this ugly poem many times before.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:46 | 3317319 shovelhead
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Simple.

Don't buy their shit. Buy locally produced goods as much as possible and buy used.

Starve the beast of capital. I do.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:50 | 3317332 OutLookingIn
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The 'window' of productive dialogue with the power brokers, has long since been passed. Any "meaningful" dialogue with the 'controller's' at this point is nothing more then a delaying tactic on their part. Its less than worthless, leading to the loss of what real little freedoms (internet) that are left.

FACTA NON VERBA. Deeds not words. Dialogue is finished. Action is required.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 22:13 | 3318320 Totentänzerlied
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"How do we who recognize this compete with them in a "civil" manner, using the tools of government, when those very tools have been turned against us and employed to make de facto enemies of our friends, family, and neighbors?"

Fabian Socialists asked the exact same thing a century ago. Marxists asked the same thing, minus the qualifier "civil". Asking the right questions does not always lead to getting the right answers.

Just as you cannot solve an overabundance of debt with more debt, you cannot solve an overabundance of government with more government. It is what every statist has been promising for 5000 years.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 15:10 | 3317397 Mr. Magoo
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Progress will not be made until the STATES exercise their constitutional right to nullification. The only way to stop Tyranny is to act locally but I doubt it will happen so buckle up

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 16:27 | 3317599 Freddie
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Keep watching TV and Hollywood shit and nothing will change.  Viewers enable their serfdom.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:39 | 3317173 Id fight Gandhi
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Therein lies the conundrum: how? You have the unmotivated, uninformed public that just shrugs everything off and takes what it's dealt. The idealists and activists get tied up on pointless social pet projects for change that bear little fruit even if they get passed.

The rest of us who are motivated to get change haven't a clue where to start as everyone IS in a spell and doesn't care. politicians and corps care nothing and if there's a big enough stink, they'll squash it.

So how then, do you get real people involved, and interested in fruitful change and not content with the scraps thrown down?

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:31 | 3317284 Keyser-Soze
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That's the rub, Ghandi. The "real people" who have their eyes open really have only one thing we can do: take care of ourselves. I, myself, am tired of trying to tell people to start preparing for a colapse (saving hard assets, purchasing food, guns) and having them shrug me off and go back to watching 90210 or whatever the kids are watching these days. So I've gone to just dealing with myself and my family and when shit does hit the fan, Lock the doors, load the guns and grab a pop tart.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:00 | 3317698 Tango in the Blight
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Just wait for the big collapse. Until then stack up food, water, fuel, PM's, guns, medicines and whatever you actually need to survive. Don't spend one buck on iCrap, trinkets, cable tv and pay off any debts if you can.

There's nothing we can do to save the current system it will collapse under its own dead weight, our only hope is that we have a fighting chance to make the next system better.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 04:33 | 3318639 Henry Hub
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***only hope is that we have a fighting chance to make the next system better.***

If people aren't willing to fight to make the current system better, what make you think they will for the "next system". The "next system" could be a hell of a lot worse.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:52 | 3317194 JOYFUL
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Now that you've calmed down and returned to your role as armchair philosopher, it's kind of you to offer the Merikan section of the Anglo-American alliance a step by step program for their recovery...into the safe hands of the inheritors of Klemens Wenzel Nepomuk Lothar, Fürst von Metternich-Winneburg zu Beilstein, and the Grand Program for Social Cohesion and Stability which our European friends are such fine craftsmen of.

The original "new(old)world order" as designed by the moneypower behind the wars that wasted Europe in the early decades of the C19th, in which was patented the tried and true method of dissolving soverignity by means of bribing, bullying, or burying politicians till nothing stands in your way...Kissinger wrote his thesis on his hero, Count M...

and your thesis of the State as natural bedfellow and companion of the people's liberties would make him proud! Please continue to tenaciously tie thy self to the tendacious theories of a tyranny too hoary to be re-floated in the twenty-first century!

It your day to boldly go beyond boundaries of reason and reality!

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:10 | 3317231 falak pema
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Much as I like your legend filled fairy tail tainted logic, a page out of the fellowship of the Ring, where Mordor is never far from middle earth, can you for once turn the tables around and come up a constructive vision of what awaits man once the evil kingdom falls. Better and more so : how to bring about the return to Gaelic Shangri-la?

Where is King Arthur and where is Camelot in this world of Continental treason and Khazarian bullying and bribing? 

I'm curious to see the light of your subtle reasoning to free humanity from the financial tenterhooks of the cabal! 

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 00:22 | 3318509 JOYFUL
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Due to my usual (golf)handicap of far off time zones, I had no opportunity to fufill your request till rising now from my slumbers...

refreshed and anointed with the wisdom of another night's dreaming. Dreams, myths, fairy tales, the cyclical remembrances of time past...and in Burkes' immortal phrasing - "the contract between the living, the dead, and those yet unborn"...those be the tools of my trade, Squire. No need of phony sionazi inspired "shangrilas" where you philosophes and other detrius of the "Enlightenment" go to pay homage to the hangman of history.

Mordor long ago reached o'er "Middle Earth" - we live in it's grasp, and close to final gasp, we are...there will be a "King," and his progress will be marked by the march of our unvenged Dead beside those few of us left capable of perceiving the difference between clever argument and committed resistance...

but, as said by the Nagual, and scribed by Castaneda - though there is no

"secrecy about any part of our lot as luminous beings, [p]ersonal power decides who can or who cannot profit by a revelation; my experiences with my fellow men have provento me that very, very few of them would be willing to listen; and of those few who listen even fewer would be willing to act on what they have listened to; and of those who are willing to acteven fewer have enough personal power to profit by their acts."

Stay tuned Squire; I shall fulfill your morbid curiousity to know the fate the becursed spawn of treachery and the wormtongues in our midst!

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:03 | 3317212 Kreditanstalt
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(@ falak pema)..."Win back the state"??

Whatever for??  The "evil corporations" have a privileged position because of government protection, monopolies, subsidies, money-printing, favoritism, bailouts, price-fixing, wage-rigging, regulation of competition...

GOVERNMENT, not "corporations", is THE PROBLEM.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:20 | 3317236 falak pema
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well then IMO you don't adhere to the reasoning in the article! 

What you describe is the current state not the new state...as I project, to enable better access and opportunity for all.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:15 | 3317243 blindman
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the government(federal) is a corporation and corporations
are the government. who are the "people"?
Wealth Inequality in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM
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The Power Principle - II: Propaganda, Metanoia-films (Noam Chomsky et al.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=b1J9ybfRWSk&NR=1

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 03:48 | 3318625 Ghordius
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I thought falak's point was clear

you can have a government for the megacorps, through the megacorps, of the megacorps

or you can have a government for the people, through the people, of the people

of course there is this third way of moaning either against the government or the megacorps... and so keep the status quo intact

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:56 | 3317348 A Lunatic
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Before people can win back the State they must first win back themselves, however, the majority are too distracted, lazy, ignorant and selfish to recognize the fact that they are lost to begin with......

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 15:12 | 3317400 blindman
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GUIDING URBAN EXPANSION
To anticipate and guide future urban growth, the Commission recommends comprehensive land-use and public-facility planning on an overall metropolitan and regional scale, and that governments exercise greater control over land-use planning and development. ~
" ...
http://www.dieoff.org/page73.htm

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:08 | 3317108 dbTX
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Forty sevden million Americans on food stamps, sounds terrible and it is, yet the USDA braggs about how many people they are "helping". This should tell us something.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:50 | 3317324 McMolotov
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When I heard something about the government encouraging "food stamp parties," wherein program participants would gather friends and family in order to persuade them to go on the dole, I knew we'd reached a tipping point.

When the government begins treating benefits the same as Mary Kay cosmetics or Avon, we've entered uncharted territory.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 18:19 | 3317783 spooz
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Never heard of "food stamp parties", so I checked out the brochure and it was designed to help the USDA reach eligible seniors, only a third of whom use SNAP. Funny how FOX didn't mention the target audience. A quote from the brochure:

“Seniors are harder to reach because they are more isolated, often live alone, and don’t have anyone to help them navigate the SNAP enrollment process. They are also more mistrustful of giving out personal information and are potentially too proud to ask for government assistance.”

I guess you think it would be better if they just left these seniors alone and hungry.

You can find the link to the pdf brochure on this page:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/outreach/toolkits/2011/senior-outreach.html

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 23:14 | 3318426 Go Tribe
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The only way that many people are on food stamps is through dishonesty. If you lie you can get them too. Just another fed payoff.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:09 | 3317112 lunaticfringe
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I like corporatism better than the term "crony capitalism." Nothing captures the essence of corporatism more than the hours upon hours of car insurance ads- financed by state mandated auto insurance. 

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:28 | 3317149 alien-IQ
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" Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
Benito Mussolini

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:25 | 3317123 JustObserving
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 In the end, it will result in absolute tyranny if it is not stopped.

It is absolute tyranny now with the Patriot Act, NDAA, unlimited printing,  a controlled media, most prisoners of any country on the planet, undeclared wars all over (Syria, Iran, Yemen, Mali, Libya, Pakistan and more), 1.6 billion hollow point bullets and 30,000 drones on their way to monitor you.  The future you worry about happened yesterday.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 16:29 | 3317603 Freddie
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If you watch TV or Hollywood's shit then you support it because TV/Hollywood support it 110%.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 17:11 | 3317741 Tango in the Blight
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Even if you don't watch it you support it when you buy any television advertised product. I tend to buy cheap bottom-shelf nameless products. Often they are made on the same assembly-line as the brand named products. Saves you a bit of money as well.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:26 | 3317142 alien-IQ
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"The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy."
Alex Carey

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 22:20 | 3318333 Totentänzerlied
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Is Alex Carey really Noam Chomsky? Always with the democracy trash. Just like the Keynesians and their infinite lineup of bogeymen to take the blame for their ideology's myriad failures, Chomskyite types never run out of reasons to support the abject sociopolitical failure known as democracy.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 13:28 | 3317152 Seize Mars
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It's time to start talking about real solutions, because the State isn't listening to the protests, petitions, et cetera. The Nice Guy stuff isn't working.

Sun, 03/10/2013 - 14:38 | 3317304 graneros
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I assume you know what those "real solutions" are?  If you do then the question becomes do enough people have what it takes?  IMO we do not.  That's just what I see in my day to day dealings with people and the internet.  I'd love to be proven wrong.  But truth is there is no offensive structure in place and no one wants to get droned by starting something up.

America's Founding Fathers knew their necks were on the line.  Once they started their "Revolution" there would be no turning back.  It was win or die.  Their progeny (us) are far too comfortable with our big screen TV's, high speed internet, and super sized dinners (lunches,snacks,breakfasts, elevensies,afternoon breaks,etc), to endure the rigors of a "real soultiuon."

So we trade freedom for another Big Mac and the latest "Girls Gone Wild" video.  Be careful with that secret sauce ya'll.  Ya hear?

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