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This Is Why Central Planners Are So Scared of Italy's Beppe Grillo
Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Incredible Video: Beppe Grillo Dissects the Financial System... on 1998
“Whom does the money belong to? Who does its ownership belong to? To the State fine…then to us, we are the State. You know that the State doesn’t exist, it is only a legal entity. WE are the state, then the money is ours…fine. Then let me know one thing. If the money belongs to us…Why…do they lend it to us??”
- Beppe Grillo in 1998
If you really want to know why Beppe Grillo is causing Central Planners throughout the European continent to wet themselves, this video will show you. There’s a real revolution happening in Italy. This guy is the real deal and he understands the heart of the whole issue plaguing the world. All I can say is: WOW.
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Who said he was going to change everything?
Just identifying and naming the cabal is heroic in my eyes. Or should we just keep quiet and let the psychopaths continue?
billsykes:
" SO the theory is this guy is going to change everything? and when was the last guy that was good or changed anything for the common man? ... "
Looks like just so much crazy-talk (in the video) to me (a Hugo Chavez rave anyone?) ... I mean GREENSPAN was the first one shown - IS HE EVEN ALIVE (let alone occupying some key office somewhere !!!???)
CRAZY TALK.
Alex-Jones class CRAZY-TALK
I like this guy - F TV, F Hollywood, F the elites, F the EUSSR, F the Euro, the banksters and european bankster families!
This guy is awesome. Everyone should watch the video. No wonder they call him a clown. If they cannot make a valid arguement against someone - they demean and insult them. The Alinsky way. The Chicago way and the way of the banksters evil f***ks.
Rabble rousers have a way of coming off as awesome. What are we supposed to conclude about his Illuminati rantings and praise of Islamic banking?
What is wrong with Islamic banking?
Ya ... pointing out GREENSPAN as one of the four-heads/horseman of the Apocalypse was BRILLIANT.
What nursing home is he residing in again?
The Italian George Carlin...
I didn't see Carlin on the ballots
Perhaps only because he's dead.
I'd take a dead Carlin over Obama or Romney any day.
And we could put Carlin's mug on dollar bills immediately like all the other dead Presidents who currently grace our FRNs.
Why you wanna go disrespect George? How 'bout gold & silver coins with his image? Seems more appropriate somehow.
Tell it to Chris Duane!
I always thought the best undead ticket would be zombie Andrew Jackson running with zombie Aaron Burr.
How about Larry The Cable guy and no I do not watch TV or Hollywood's shit and stopped years ago. F Them.
I don't even know his hillbilly act but I thought the character name is pretty good.
"and no I do not watch TV or Hollywood's shit"
You owe me a new keyboard...
In all honesty, you can bypass TV and Hollywood with getting a roku box or something similar. That way you can watch stuff you want for free. I don't get RT or PressTV or other stuff excpet from there.
Subjecting yourself to the idiot boxen on the cheap doesn't make it any less undignified.
Don't be greedy - even if you don't watch TV, there is A show "Desperate Hoswifes" , starring Nancy Pelosi, Joan Bohner und Barbara Fwanks .... Ok, Nancy kinda androgyne ...
I don't think that would stop Italy.
Doug Stanhope might be available... and hell, he might even use the word "fuck" even more than Beppe which somehow seems appropriate these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RycwYRcm3Lc
Yep .. said the same last week after posting the video.
There is even a German equivalent satirist , by the name of .... Volker Pispers.
My guess if the Germans could vote , they'd replace Merkel with him immediately.
Pispers advises to vote for Die Linke if changes are desired. I'd say go for die Piratenpartei. We both think that the ol' parties can't make the difference.
I truely think that Germany just follows the same stupid way of the past years, and that they'll end up with a CDU/SPD coalition.
Yeah, they've done it before, it was nothing but bs, but hey, this time it's different, right?
Halte du sie dumm, ich halte sie arm...
BTW
I always read the comments first to find out what went on in these political TV debates ... sorted by "most recommended".
It seems that the German readers/commenters have their heads screwed on the rght way ... nearly always 95% are fed up with the talking heads ... and in this particular Sunday night TV show, they had some representatives of "the people" actually contributing to the "show" ... and earned praise from the commenters .
e.g. Dirk Müller + Bernd Lucke
http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article114245502/Lafontaine-nennt-Merkel-...
The mighty FDP is ready to serve , and always open to the desires of Dems or Reps... uff ... SPD or CDU ...
Flexibility already in the name Free DP .....
As they say over there: Koestlich! Geil!
We need guys like him over here.... a new, George Carlin.
Yes, he is great. I also like Georg Schramm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UapfqS49BZo
So what are we betting on? Heartattack, hot tub drowning or grassy knoll?
He may have to cook for himself as well. No telling what might make its way into the spaghetti bolognese.
Maybe it will be Joubert from "3 Days of the Condor"...
... It will happen this way. You may be walking. Maybe the first sunny day of the spring. And a car will slow beside you, and a door will open, and someone you know, maybe even trust, will get out of the car. And he will smile, a becoming smile. But he will leave open the door of the car and offer to give you a lift.
Cancer. Very fast acting cancer.
Or accidental self-asphxiation during kinky sex in a hotel walk-in wardrobe.
Or perhaps he'll be having lunch at a cafe, when Italy has it's first predator drone-strike, sorry 'gas explosion'.
Very unlikely to be 'self-inflicted gunshot wound to the back of the head, in a field at night, due to depression'. That one is getting old.
I'm sure he checks his food and drink from same time now
In Italy they're more likely to jump out of a window.
No, just like Ron Paul, they wouldn't dream of martyring him...
Ron Paul was only safe because he stayed insignificant.
All bets are off if Beppe Grillio becomes more significant.
Sadly, I agree. When we turn that corner it will all be a very different...
accidental self-asphxiation during kinky sex in a hotel walk-in wardrobe.
What did David Carradine do again?
Dunno, Bill Casey has been much better. Enrique Berlinguer got stroke ....
He can hope for two faulty pistols that Andrew Jackson faced before he nearly beat the would-be assassin to death with his cane.
Don't be such a cowboy. Things are done more 'sophisticated' in Europe. It will likely be...
Tub drowning, due to accidental OD (antidepressant + Scotch), in a secluded getaway, hotel room. In Geneva. Nice and neutral (manageable), and cleaned up, so Switzerland's and the elite hotel's brand-name remains untarnished.
Just like in the Uwe Barschel affair of the 1987 (Germany's JFK). Ask his brother Eike -- one of 2 people Uwe spoke with hours before he died -- if he thought that it was a 'suicide'. Clues and claims of 'professionals' visiting him, were claimed to be a conspiracy theories by MSM. "There was no CYA or Moxxad involvement", say German and other authorities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uwe_Barschel
Victor Ostrovsky (ISBN: 0971759502)
Character assasination along with murder. Death through some sexual deviancy; autoerotic asphyxiation or similar.
They can't kill us all.
""So what are we betting on? Heartattack, hot tub drowning or grassy knoll?"
I'm sure Gulio "the snake" Andreotti is already "working" on his case... Wait a minute : wasn't Grillo involved in the murder of Aldo Moro?
New exclusive "photoshopped" b&w pix sent to all Italian medias this week! Grillo is a murderer!
!. It's easy to be a demagogue. BUT does this man offer any alternative to the current system? Until now, I haven't seen any.
2. It doesn't matter what he says. It's more important whether he does what he says.
we've just arrived in parliament... wait for it... :D if you are impatient you can look at what m5s is doing in sicily and rephrase your thoughts !
Are you talking about Obama and Berlusconi?
I believe his offer was to repudiate the Italian national debt and return to Lira.
You really shouldn't sleep with your head in the sand.
That's was a great idea several years ago, and still a good idea. But will Illuminati rantings and Islamic banking principles be better? He's paranoid.
For the record: I choose not TBT
You don't actually know much about Islamic banking principles, do you?
Hint: they use only gold (dinar, look it up!) and have strict rules against usury and have fractional reserve limits several multiples smaller than the relative whores you call banks.
He may be paranoid, but you're merely uninformed.
Please. Usury is forbidden, so it doesn't happen? They have at least a dozen different forms of not-so-optional "gifts" (kickbacks) which conveniently take the place of interest payments.
Camel's nose, tent, some assembly underway. If this were merely about real money and vilifiying fractional reserve lending, then that would be the subject, not the supposed wonders of Islamic anything.
What's more worrying today, the status quo (and those who administer it) or demagogues (who stoke the public's passions)? Obvious answer. And is any entity holding the leadership of the status quo to your second declaration: " It doesn't matter what he says. It's more important whether he does what he says." No. I'm done.
"BUT does this man offer any alternative to the current system? Until now, I haven't seen any"
You dumb or troll? He ended up the show saying money must be issued by the state and not by private bankers. Seems that nothing to you?
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But, my question is, will he make the trains run on time? Benito did...for a while.
They'll get there on time alright, just might not go where you want em to.
A hundered years of bankster, governmental, and corporate malfeasance, and all the sudden now you're insisting on standards?
Do you ever take the hint that you're clueless?
I say we now use any contrary initiative and take it as far as we can, use our adaptive capacity to improve as we go. We'll leave the likes of you to dither about protocols. You should at least commit to take a bullet for somebody who matters.
It's war ewe phukking idiot.
He offered the alternative. You're not listening. Get rid of private Central Bankers.
a lot of people are talking about empty shelves in walmart.
i have an explanation to be verified by more informed sources.
the central planners are setting prices at walmart so as to control the CPI.
but walmart can't source the products at the planned prices due to rapid inflation in China, hence the empty shelves.
or the spending power is declining so rapidly as to cause walmart to re-organise shelf spaces, reduing product selections and shelf inventory.
i prefer the first explanation. i live in shanghai. i know salaries of the slave laborers in china more than doubled in the last 10 years, it got to transmit into mucher higher walmart shelf prices.
removed. apologies.
Yes, I saw lots of empty shelves in the Walmart in Kahului, Maui this week. I've never seen that before.
I think Wal Mart is being crushed by three or more forces:
1. Higher wages in China.
2. Weaker dollar.
3. Bankrupt and unemployed Americans who cannot afford to buy anything except food.
4. Higher distribution costs.
It is crushing WMT from all angles.
Maybe Wal Mart needs to manufacture ammo because that is all I want from them except some food, bottled water and toilet paper.
I have enough clothes, linens, household gadgets and other stuff to last me for years.
The elites wanted Hope & Change - F them, F TV and F Hollywood.
5. People that don't want to shop with people like Fredday
Long live Beppe!
we are writing history :D
Forza Beppe!
:D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTnlcB1D9Bo
Here's a more recent Beppe Grillo interview, but it only has German captions. Very much worth watching if you can understand german or Italian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7I9OwaPq7g
Turn on the translate subtitles to English. Wow, again.
Fantasico! I turnefd on the English subtitles. He was talking about the direct democracy of the people of his party. He said we take no money and we cut our salaries 70%. He said 50% of our party our women and they do not have botox and big tits! LOL! He said they are housewives and all types of women.
101.7M Euro is a lot of canolis.
Favourite phrase he used: " the law complying offenders" - brilliant!
Bienvenue, JN. Hope this is the rested, and New & Improved JN? JonNa unchained?
What astonishes me is that, despite everything, even now, very few people understand what money is. Quite often when you try and explain it to people, they refuse to believe it.
This ignorance of money is no accident, like everything else of importance that they fail to address in public schools.
Right on Ignatious! BTW, you were the hero in one of the funniest books ever written. You are a gentleman, philosopher and hot dog eater, extrordinaire.
"Ignatius himself was dressed comfortably and sensibly. The hunting cap prevented head colds. The voluminous tweed trousers were durable and permitted unusually free locomotion. Their pleats and nooks contained pockets of warm, stale air that soothed Ignatius. The plaid flannel shirt made a jacket unnecessary while the muffler guarded exposed Reilly skin between earflap and collar. The outfit was acceptable by any theological and geometrical standards, however abstruse, and suggested a rich inner life."
-- A Confederacy of Dunces
Oh absolutely. I try to explain what fractional reserve lending, debt-based money, how the Fed (and other central banks work) and who owns it.. And they will have NONE of it. Their jaws drop to the ground when I say this stuff.... not because It's true.. but because I come off as some kind of conspiracy theorist and they move on to the ad-hominem attacks. It is just incredible.... wow.
Thanks public schools for leaving out teaching economics, and destroying people's critical thinking & logical understanding abilities!
"The Matrix (Collaboration of governments, with business & banking interests) is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around - what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand - most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
- Morpheus, The Matrix
"Thanks public schools for leaving out teaching economics, and destroying people's critical thinking & logical understanding abilities!'
Schools are dumbing down the peeps because tptb want it that way--
http://www.alternet.org/visions/chomsky-corporations-and-richest-americans-viscerally-oppose-common-good
"One of the great achievements of American democracy has been the introduction of mass public education, from children to advanced research universities. And in some respects that leadership position has been maintained. Unfortunately, not all. Public education is under serious attack, one component of the attack on any rational and humane concept of the Common Good, sometimes in ways that are not only shocking, but also spell disaster for the species.Sometimes the attacks on education and on the Common Good are very closely linked. One current illustration is the “Environmental Literacy Improvement Act” that is being proposed to legislatures by ALEC, the American Legislative Exchange Council, a corporate-funded lobby that designs legislation to serve the needs of the corporate sector and extreme wealth. This act mandates “balanced” teaching of climate science in K-12 classrooms.”
“Balanced teaching” is a code phrase that refers to teaching climate change denial, to “balance” authentic climate science – what you read in science journals. It is analogous to the “balanced teaching” advocated by creationists to enable the teaching of “creation science” in public schools. Legislation based on ALEC models has already been introduced in several states.
The ALEC legislation is based on a project of the Heartland Institute, a corporate-funded Institute dedicated to rejection of the scientific consensus on the climate. The Institute project calls for a “Global Warming Curriculum for K-12 Classrooms,” which aims to teach that there is “a major controversy over whether or not humans are changing the weather.” Of course, all of this is dressed up in rhetoric about teaching critical thinking, and so on. It is much like the current assault on teaching children about evolution and science quite generally.
For those whom Adam Smith called the "Masters of Mankind,” it is important that we must become the stupid nation in the interests of their short-term gain, damn the consequences. These are essential properties of contemporary market fundamentalist doctrines. ALEC and its corporate sponsors understand the importance of ensuring that public education train children to belong to the stupid nation, and not be misled by science and rationality. "
Reading Chomsky makes you stoopid
sombody junked me
Chomsky is great if you haven't read much else. I'll give him credit, he is a great rhetorician. For as muchas chomsky has to say you have to look at what he doesn't say. Read his books Manufacturing Consent and Neccessary ilusions and then use those two ideas as a filter for the other things he says in public. Anyone who holds him up as some knd of god I dissmiss as a usefull idiot.
"Authentic climate science" like East Anglia's "hide the decline"?
Real science doesn't give a shit about consensus, it only cares about what is provable with empirical data, not models.
The computer models said AIG was solvent. How did that work out?
John Taylor Gatto and the Scientific Management of Public Schools:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UadPqGscfI
The cartoonists behind The Matrix have it all figured out Tsunami Wave, also, David Lynch, because, holy crap: Dune. And Blade Runner was so prescient.
Im thinking Nemo's Dad, Marlin...For a comedian hes not very funny.
I laughed my ass off. Maybe it's you.
nobody voted for grillo because he had any economic solutions..
nobody went on "occupy" sit-ins and marches because they had any economic solutions
nobody has a single solution for a workable economy
everybody knows is that you can't spend more than you take in in taxes
everybody knows that money printing has to stop soon or currencies will become wothless
On the other hand he has progressed significantly further along than Occupy ever did.
He has cornered a substantial segment of the voting population. He has created a big headache for the entrenched political elite. He has also formulated some pretty basic rules to be followed by those who want to participate in his movement politically, such as a voluntary term limit of two years and a pledge to turn more than half your public salary over to help those in need of help.
You can gauge how much he is rocking the boat by the shit being flung at him by the left, the right and the worms in Brussels.
yep..good reasons why he is popular..term limits ..mind you, there is nothing new in the world..all politics corrupts because it is TBTF..its not just the banks
Occupy my balls.
<THWACK!!>
I was always wondering who would be the first to sharply criticize or leave the Euro.. The Finns? Germans? Dutch? Surprisingly so far..... the Italians. Interesting
There seems to be some correlation between how suddenly the banksters make things worse to whether the people respond. You know, the story about boiling a frog slowly, versus too fast. Iceland was a good example of things SUDDENLY getting way worse, so that the people were SHOCKED into more awareness ... All the PIGS in southern Europe have been experiencing some of that during the last decade.
Still, in my view, there is too much of the Sheeple's old morality in Beppe Grillo, and it is not yet clear what may happen when the ruling classes decide to turn Vicious Wolf on him? But nevertheless, there is no doubt he has built up his career to the point where he can significantly rock the boat ... enough so that we now he exists, and are commenting upon him and his party. Since the boat was sinking anyway, that sort of makes sense ...
nobody has a single solution for a workable economy that preserves current spending levels
Nail meet head...
Most perspicacious of you. For all that we despise the elites and the incredible buccaneering gains theyve enjoyed in bull & bear
...our whole way of life is predicted on their game
everybody knows that if they stop printing money the whole system will implode in a week.
I don't think they print anymore like Beppe said; they push buttons on a PC. The lunacy that masquerades as a functioning system is so laughable it's only a matter of time. I always try to inject some truth in casual conversations with people that have no clue, love to see that look in their eye when you just woke them up a little.
FORWARD!
....everybody knows that money printing has to stop soon or currencies will become wothless..
We would never have arrived here if it wasn't for mass ignorance. Everybody knows what's on tv, and that's about all they know.
I have the solution. Print away the debt once and for all. Fund governemnt operations with printing up to an increase of 3% a year. If you need more, tax wealth. Eliminate fractional reserve banking. Have SS and govt pension plans fund the mortage market. Eliminate the import of cheaper goods competing with domestic goods. Eliminate campaign contributions. Enact term limits at all level of politics. Break up any and all companies once they get to a certian size. Require acquisition of skills if you are receiving welfare.
The solutions do exist but the will to change does not.
Arrest the bankster scammers and put them in jail for breaking the law. That was the solution. Yet, Dear Leader saw to it that the banksters got the bonuses of a lifetime in 2009. Rule of law. Simple.
I hate to say this, but Hitler railed against bankers too...
then again, Jesus threw the den of theives out of the Temple..
Jason, Hitler had his own banker: Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht. One of the three Nazi's who were acquitted in Nurnberg. This guy single handedly stopped the hyper-inflation of the 20-ies (of course, he was big long before Addie came to power).
Shacht did it with a pencil, draft paper, and access to a telephone. Great story for Sunday googling. When the time is ripe, sea change happens.
Think again. Shacht 'coordinated' BB policy with Montagu Norman's BoE.
... and blowing them hard ... He was an banksters bitch, butchered 60 M ppl. for an 1700% yield ...
Murder pays off . Especially when you eliminate Henry Wallace as a VP through the Chicago Dems Mob, and send John Dulles to search Nazi-Money.
I really don't think Beppe wants to conquer Europe.. not with tanks, planes and bombs :D
Fascism Rulz! Oh, wait, duh, I mean, that's what it's about.
Notice that the ONLY time JC lost his cool -- and how! -- was when it came to the Money Changers at the Temple.
The Money Changers charged outrageous 'fees' (margins) to convert Caeser's coins (too 'filthy'!) into 'clean' Temple Coins that were "acceptable to God" -- according to the Changers and priests. The priests of the Sanhedrin got their cut, be sure of it.
The story of Jesus and Money Changers (of Sumerian origin) is the first record of a populist taking on Central Bankers/Banksters. We know how that story progressed and ended.
What people overlook, is that the (secret) knowledge and bag of trick of the Money Changers went underground, but never disappeared. History books pick up this theme of money changers in the Middle Ages, when many were also gold-smiths and Money Changing had transformed into loan-sharking. A lucrative but dangerous profession. Modern banking evolved from this.
Britain had strong laws against usury until the latter part of the 16th century. Until 1571
Usury is outlawed by English Parliament!!
During the reign of King Edward VI (1547-1553) the door was closed and locked against the "Bank" of Rome setting up a branch office in England. Parliament outlawed USURY and make it a criminal offense:
King Edward VI (1547-1553) outlawed usury by Parliamentary decree. You can be sure that his reign was cut short because he opposed the moneylenders.
"(Act relating to Usury.) Another bill was brought in against usury, which passed both houses, and was made a statute. By it, an act passed in the 37th of the late king (Henry VIII), that none might take above 20 per cent. on money lent, was repealed; which they said was not intended for the allowing of Usury, but for preventing farther inconveniences. And since Usury was by the word of God forbidden, and set out in divers places of Scripture as a most odious and detestable vice, which yet many continue to practise, for the filthy gain they make by it; therefore, from the 1st of May, all usury or gain from money lent was to cease; and whosoever continued to practise to the contrary, was to forfeit both principal and interest, to suffer imprisonment, and to be fined at the king's pleasure." (Cobbett's Parliamentary History of England, vol. I, p.596).top
Go Beppe. Arrest Monti and the Goldmanites for treason.
Italians still love their opera.....defiance, greed, lust, envy and betrayal. They will remember what this guy is saying, which is not good for the fiat overlords.
mmmm.. always hated opera. I prefer NIN
Mozart's Italian and German operas are good mainly because the music is so bloody good. I prefer Mozart to Trent Reznor too. The dude is a dwarf.
You know, that was just 'cos i hate cliches .. "italians lissen to opera". bah! ... like when here in Europe they say "all americans are dumb". That's not true!
Well there is a tie in between Grillo and Mozart's operas. A lot of the subject matter in his operas had to do with the Enlightenment or the growth of the middle class in Europe versus nobility. The idea that all men are created equal.
Grillo is saying pretty much the same thing as Mozart did. Just replace the nobility with politicians/banskters/bankster families.
They are the same ****ing people - the same people who for centuries have "invested in" wars that have murdered millions of Europeans for "profit." Nothing ever changes. History repeats.
The same ****ing peopel bankster families who invested in the US Civil War that killed 1.1 million. They same people who invested in the Russia-Japan War and all the other wars. These are facts not fantasy.
Grillo and Mozart had/have the same ideas about being pro-individual and pro-FREE citizen. Bravo Grillo!
pro-FREE citizen?
Citizen == subject == not free
And Opera is NOT middle class, thank the Lord.
You know NIN is bad when an 80 year old country singer does a remake and it is more popular than the original
Exceptionally astute observation. +~
Sadly, the Grillo movement is already heavily infiltrated by commies...
Yeah.. and fearing to be poisoned Grillo only eats his own kids .. bloody commies!
Vote me down all you want. Do your own research on the people who are surrounding him... Commies everywhere. They're just going to finish what the cleptocrats (Andreotti, Berlusconi) and the technocrats (Prodi, Monti) started. Change you can believe in!
Edit: After more reading, it appears that SwissAustrian may be right.
Yeah, cos theres nothing remotely "Communist" about US Corp policy: Communist manifesto
Hey, I'm also sure that "We the people" refers to us all - the future general population of citizens ("Instruments" and belligerents) - and isn't merely an internal resolution of a Corporate entity.
Only one question: Why is he still walking around? I mean shit accidents happen to people like that all the time don't they?
Depends. Apparently Fidel is worth more alive than dead. Expect a plethora of propoganda, boycotts and dissimulation.
Fidel is a Freemason and an Oddfellow. Apparently, his Masters are pleased with his performance.
No point taking out individuals now. The fiat story has been taken to critical mass. This Grillo just seems like a smart guy who happens to be the current focal point for a movement that was going to happen anyway. People have been writing about it and talking about it for decades. The fiat regime is OVER. The only assassination that might happen is something along the lines of mass assassination, aka WAR. When the masses finally see that the emperor has no clothes, the emperor finances a war that wipes out a bunch and restarts the con with a new generation and new currency. Rinse and repeat.
But public aversion to the prospect of WW3 seems to dovetail with the objectives of the globalists who sponsor Agenda 21. Problem --> Reaction --> Solution. When the next generation has undergone sufficient wealth destruction, tragedy and misery, it will embrace the stability of grassroots totalitarianism under the auspices of "sustainability" and values defined by Earth Worship. Enter the elite-contrived "Green" movement. So another poster is probably right: Grillo's party is probably infiltrated and influenced by collectivist greenshirts. That is standard ICLEI method of operation.
Addendum: I posted this speculation prior to viewing the videos linked further up this page by SafelyGraze. Grillo does appear to be Controlled Opposition. His base of support, consisting primarily of disenfranchised youth, is being groomed for massive, ugly social change.
Sequester limited the flights of maintenance personal from NJ to Rome .
Technician has an slight delay, but, no worry, he'll be there in time ....
Not to fret. Barry's fine Mr. Kerry has many weekend places in Italy. I'm sure Beppe will be invited over for a Cappuccino, and a bit of intimate conversation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Army_installations_i...
Unfortunately, the Elites can afford to wait Carlin or Beppo out. It has been 15 years since this video transpired. The Banksters have only gotten worse. The NWO has become arrogant and supremely confident and why not? The people still believe the propaganda.
Even in the face of draconian austerity, Greeks refuse to seek real political and economic change. They still vote for "normalle", just as the Italians do. Berlusconi? Really?
There is no way to change cattle from being cattle. You have to change the cattle ranchers. You need to provide better grazing areas, which encourage the cattle to move. You need to provide a security that exceeds the illusion perpetrated by the Elites. You need to convince the cow that they have a say in how they are to be fed, which grasses they can choose and whom they will herd with. They must find out they are free and not the property of the rancher, just because he has declared ownership.
The Elites are of the opinion that we are all their slaves. They will never change that opinion. However, there is zero reason we have to believe them nor act the part.
the banksters can either
or let cia cancer them out
At first, I think they just wanted to kill most of us with it, but then they discovered if they could extend it through expensive medical care, they could take just a little more wealth from all of us. Even the medicines could carry side effects and still, the people would gobble them down.
It is hard to imagine the depths of evil the Elites have plumbed, yet everytime you discover a new record depth of depravity, new levels avail themselves below.
FZ more alive than ever, despite 20 yrs. from being cancered.
Teach your kids about the Central Scrutinizer (introduce them to FZ).
What do banks want? debt and return on debt with no capital except their smiling faces.
screw'em and the horse that brung'em
The capital is the free money from Bernank.
I like the guy, but I don't think anybody's affraid of him. People come, get entertained and go about their business. The "Inside Job" is much more powerful and reveiling, and did it cause the Revolution? A stir? A protest? Anything? Of course not, and why?... excuse me I have to go answer some friends on FB... (that's why)
Italy invented the mafia regime. The banksters learnt all their lessons later from history. Who else is better to eradicate organised crime (the present day too big to fail guys) than an Italian politician who has the interests of the people at heart? He would precisely know what to squeeze that would bring a lump to the throat of the banksters. The bankers are only wondering how did such a person reach such high level in the democracy without their funding.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article35345.html
www.letstalkmoney2012.in
Sounds like a very reasonable and well informed man. God Speed Grillo!
There has to be a tipping point, doesn't there? With people like Beppe and others speaking the truth the sheeple are bound to wake up, aren't they? Damn, I hope so...
As very excellenty presented here http://youtu.be/QnO9qyAvCEI it will probably take another crisis to get things moving.
Good link, thanks
Sorry, I don't vote for him as long as I don't see on his agenda an exit plan from the FIAT currency € .
What's your alternative?
Just talked to a military buddy who was stationed in Italy during the conversion. In his estimation, the money went much farther toward securing the strip clubs when he was compensated in Lira than it did later with Euro's. Austerity, maybe?
All I know is my favorite pizza (diavola) went from 10,000 Lira ($5) to 10 Euros ($12~) overnight.