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Foodstamp Recipients Hit Record, Alongside Record Dow Jones And Record Debt: 20% Of Eligible Americans On EBT

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Record Dow Jones, record US debt ($16,701,846,937,879.74), and now, once more, record number of Americans on foodstamps. According to the USDA, an all time high of 47,791,966 Americans closed 2012 in possession of the highly desired Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) card, managed by who else but JPMorgan. And with a civilian non-institutional population of 244.4 million in December, this means that a record 19.56% of eligible Americans are on Foodstamps.

In December an additional 109,924 Americans became reliant on foodstamps for their poverty-level needs, bringing the total to 47.8 million.

Number of US households on foodstamps: also a record of 23.1 million, with the average monthly benefit of $277.09.

And as a percentage of the total civilian non-institutional population.

Record wealth effect for the 1%, foodstamps for the poorest 20%, and a middle class on the verge of extinction. How is this possible and what happens next? Read Dylan Grice's piece posted earlier for all the answers.


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Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:17 | 3320637 Mongo
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And VIX at it's lowest for a longo time. Spring loaded. Time to run girls & boys! ...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:19 | 3320646 MillionDollarBonus_
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The VIX is plunging once again, to the horror of ZH day trader goons. Greasy ZH day traders are probably the most immoral despicable characters on this site. They sit at home in their pajamas all day, losing their retirement money on S&P short positions, doomer gold stocks and crazy VIX futures strategies with massice cost of carry; screeming at their screens about manipulation every time they lose, and ranting for hourse on Zerohedge and other doomer sites. Meanwhile their relationships with their wives and children are totally falling apart.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:20 | 3320651 camaro68ss
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enjoy your rise in the market MDB, the fall will be epic!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:26 | 3320677 francis_sawyer
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Epic MDB :-)... Just Epic!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:31 | 3320695 redpill
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So I ask you, how can any rational person sit and proclaim that we have a legitimate, functioning stock market when it can be hitting record highs at the same food stamp usage does the same?   In what type of world is that even possible, and more importantly, is that a world that people want to live in?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:41 | 3320735 General Decline
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Clearly there is a correlation here. We need to double our efforts on distributing food stamps! DOW to 50,000!!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:37 | 3320882 yogibear
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The Zimbabwe Federal Reserve economic plan. Bernanke and the Fed can print the market to 50,000 and rice and water distribution trucks when the muppets can't afford the food anymore.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:16 | 3321009 The Heart
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Maybe they are going to 3-D Print the rice and water to save big bucks.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:33 | 3321341 WmMcK
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They're 3-D printing plastic that just looks like rice.

All clean water is owned by the state and is metered.

Soon in a theatre near you.


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 23:13 | 3321485 TruthInSunshine
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SNAP/EBT cards, credit cards [they've only existed or been widely relied upon by average Americans for 30 years or so, lest we forget]/payday loans & Keeping Up With The Kardashians/Monday Night Football/The Real Housewives of [Insert Wasteland City of Empty Lives & Drama For the Sake of Drama Here]/iGadgets are to Amerika what Bread & Circuses/Gladiator Matches were to Rome during its decline.


The Danger of Living on Bread and Circuses

Structural forces are creating some very serious employment headwinds.


Look at the big picture, and you also see how, unlike Rome, whose armies looted the lands they conquered, the underemployed U.S. must borrow money to pay for our bread and circuses. Rome was so rich that it took hundreds of years for the empire to crumble. We’re broke, which accelerates the day of reckoning. Reform of U.S. entitlement spending would buy us time, but wouldn’t fix the employment situation.


On a positive note, this bread-and-circuses economy does offer new opportunities. People who can help make things cheaper will do well. They can use digital technology to build businesses of truly global scale. Lastly, anyone who can satisfy the public’s lust for mind-rotting drivel has a viable career ahead in a growth industry.


Drowning a country in vicarious debauchery may be a lousy way to sustain a civilization. Still, there is something to be said for “Half Pint Brawlers” and its ilk. TV-watching keeps people at home, instead of marching in the streets.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 05:58 | 3321748 GetZeeGold
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No bread lines = no problem


Totally bullish for stawks.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 06:39 | 3321760 ChrisFromMorningside
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edward bernays was a pig

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 20:17 | 3321156 Overfed
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I went to Home Despot the other day for some materials for a shed I'm building. OSB, plywood, and fiberglass insulation are up more than 20% just since last summer. Zimbabwe, indeed.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 06:57 | 3321776 BorisTheBlade
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Correlation and causation are kind of two different things. Maybe it takes more and more people to get onto foodstamps to keep DOW at those unsustainable levels. Kind of makes sense since all the funds funelled into stock market represent capital being taken out of the rest of the economy to keep this fantasy of the market going. That's not to say that if the market crashes, the number of recipients won't skyrocket again. This 'economy' is a clusterfucked parody for a nonsense.


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:43 | 3320741 mrdenis
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My broker now accepts EBT my card for payment on all purchases 

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:57 | 3320775 MoneyThangs
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Nothing wrong with trading from your house in your pijamas, beats working in a Goldman boiler room anyday, MDB.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:19 | 3321016 The Heart
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Greater works are done in one American's organic garden, than are done on Wall Street all day.

No offence to anyone there, or anywhere, but when was the last time you spent a day in your garden of Love?

Follow your heart.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:57 | 3320781 DaveyJones
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Interesting article, interesting comments. The more things change, the more they remain the same. They've never cared about us. Globalization just makes it more obvious

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:36 | 3321045 James_Cole
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Interesting article, interesting comments."

It's the difference between homogeneity / heterogeneity or cultural hegemony. If your ecology becomes homogeneous you're in trouble and that's what we're seeing worldwide. 

Globalization has taken ineffective systems and instead of working out the kinks over time locally with diverse input the power systems have been combined and the territory expanded, exacerbating the problems similar to TBTF.

IMO need to break down the worldwide TBTF phenomenon and start back up on the local level, local solutions for local problems. 

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:45 | 3321066 akak
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Agreed.  The hippies of the 1960s were exactly right: "Decentralize, decentralize, decentralize".

I love pointing out to lovers of Obama, and of the statist status-quo more generally, that all of their beloved big government programs such as Obama(Don't)Care inherently centralize authority and power, concentrate it in the hands of an ever-expanding central government, and inherently take power (and freedom) from individuals rather than handing it back to them, or allowing them a choice.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 20:50 | 3321245 Totentänzerlied
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They don't care. In fact, it's exactly what they desire, because they fear freedom (read: liberty, lack of external authority and control). The fear of freedom - it's what fuels all authoritarian, hypercentralized political systems. Ours is no different. Everything they say about helping people, they may or not believe. It doesn't matter, they think the way to help people is to remove their responsibility to/for themselves and replace it with submission to some type of privileged group or entity, who should run the whole of a society and its state. The theocrats and the communists, no less than democrats and republicans, in terms of their psychological motivations and the pyschological dynamics of their politics, have between them not a hair's breadth of difference. It's always about control, the freedom to do as you're told. That's all the sado-masochistic personality - which typifies all authoritarians - understands.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:38 | 3321351 kraschenbern
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No, it's not freedom they fear; it's responsibility and potential failure - then facing an uncaring nature.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 22:33 | 3321444 sun tzu
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What do you mean they don't care about you? Pelosi, Reid, and Obama care deeply about you and your bank account

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:10 | 3320813 McMolotov
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Food stamps are the modern bread lines and soup kitchens, with visibility kept to a minimum. And the fact that the stamps have been replaced by cards is not so much for convenience as it is to remove the stigma most people would have if they had to whip out government coupons at the check-out. It's about building acceptance of the system.

It really is like a giant experiment to see how much the people at the top can steal from everyone else without causing a revolution, and the food stamps thing is probably one of the most important aspects of that agenda. Once they get enough people "hooked" (for lack of a better phrase), they can steal with impunity as they will essentially have "the rabble" (again, for lack of a better phrase) on their side.

Fun times for everyone.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:25 | 3320850 AssFire
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Thanks for the tip, I been whipping out my S&H Green Stamps and they look at me like I'm buying porn.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:37 | 3320876 hedgeless_horseman
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Food stamps are the modern bread lines and soup kitchens, with visibility kept to a minimum.


Finally, if you can, imagine driving all day, every day, for 31 days. That relentless line of people standing heel-to-toe passes by at 60 miles per hour for an entire month. When you have reached your destination 15,500 miles away, the 47,000,000 people you will have passed is the number of people lining up for a meal every day in America's breadline, also known as food stamps, or SNAP.

...and that is from 2011.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:33 | 3321037 akak
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Obviously, none of these people receiving food stamps know how to shop for bargains.

And beside that, adjusting for the rise in the number of people on food stamps in the last five years, nobody is actually on food stamps today anyway.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:04 | 3321283 Bay of Pigs
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Kind of like like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz?

"There is no inflation, there is no inflation, there is no inflation..."

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:29 | 3321330 WmMcK
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Plaid stamps, a liberty bell and a pfeister barter card - don't leave without them.

Always worth a laugh when I show one or more of them.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:34 | 3321041 The Heart
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"It's about building acceptance of the system."

The long range plans of the oligarchy of industrial banksters has always been geared towards a global monetary system on line, or into a digital form. After they blow out, literally blow away many countries money systems and peoples by instigating wars using the god money as they have traditionally done, they want a global money system for the few that will be left very much like this EBT card thingy. They want to TRACK AND TRACE every single transaction to TAX and COLLECT information from using the octopussian controls they have over the entire moneterial babylon system. Like the bit-coin racket that can track and trace or even steal what one has at will, it can all be shut down with the proceeds being taken to china where the rest of these elitists have built their run away to bunkers for the coming war with china.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 22:21 | 3321420 archon
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Isn't this wonderful?!  It's an "everybody wins" economy!  Record profits for all the people who have jobs, and record food stamps for people who don't!  It's a win-win, and everyone's happy!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:35 | 3321042 therover
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"In what type of world is that even possible"


The BIZZARO world. 

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:21 | 3321318 Hohum
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Why not?  Why not 15% U-3 unemployment and 20K Dow?  Loose central banking creates inflation.  We have inflation--in assets.

Sun, 03/17/2013 - 17:12 | 3339730 Chump
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The average monthly "benefit" is more than my family's monthly grocery budget by over $70.  Many thanks to all you supporters of the welfare state.  May we never meet, for your sake, hear me well.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:26 | 3320678 Clowns on Acid
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MDB has been short. His diatribe above is autobiographicxal....

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:53 | 3320768 Ying-Yang
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Does Ben Bernanke satisfy his wife?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:28 | 3320680 hedgeless_horseman
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Chickens are laying like crazy right now, so we have record egg production...

...therefore cheese souffle was on the menu. 

Before you ask, it is not one of our tomatoes, but the red basil and cheese is ours.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:29 | 3320690 francis_sawyer
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Fresh [homegrown] tomatoes are tough this time of year... No need 4 apologies... 

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:32 | 3320702 css1971
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Sun dry em and put them in olive oil.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:40 | 3320707 francis_sawyer
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Nope ~ U only want to do that with certain varieties picked straight off the vine... [usually in Jul, Aug, Sep]...


Those look to be regular tomatoes... The 'sundried' ones you'd want to be 'Roma' or 'San Marziano'...

Edit: Looks like the 'joo junkers' are out early... They don't simply JUNK ANY COMMENT that has 'jew' in it... They're also TOMATO experts... [For the record h_h is a 'neutral type'... As such ~ I don't expect him to verify that what I say is correct]...

Buon Appetito!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:04 | 3320799 Hulk
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And I'll remind everyone at this time, that the best way to grow tomatoes is to feed them to the chickens and then plant the shit !!! No kidding, you will have tomatoes growing everywhere...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:14 | 3320819 francis_sawyer
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LOL ~ [true]


Just so you don't think u need to get fancy... Last year ~ just 4 shits & giggles, I bought some MARTHA STEWART 'San Marziano' seeds... Motherfucking things [Notwithstanding the fact that the seed packet was practically bare], germinated to about a 30% degree... Instead ~ the San Marziano's I simply harvested he seeds from [the year before] were about 80% germination...


Note: I'm not jus trying to grow a vine or two here... I'm talking 200 or so vines ~ so if you're just growing a fucking 'TOPSY TURVY' on your fucking patio ~ you're on your own...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:27 | 3321027 JethroTull
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Worked for me this past summer. Had to buy packaged organic chicken shit however. Some day Bernanke Bucks are going to make great compost.


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:16 | 3321313 max2205
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Mom where did those tomatoes come from.

Why, they came out of those chickens asses

Shitty tomatoes

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:34 | 3320705 Global Hunter
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you make your own cheese? respect, so much respect for you HH.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:39 | 3320730 Hulk
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Cheese is one of the easier things to make, believe it or not !!!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:45 | 3320746 Global Hunter
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well I feel like I've made it halfway up shit creek without a paddle.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:02 | 3320789 Hulk
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The bottom line, for people here who haven't raised their own animals and grown their own vegetables,

is that its easy, once you know how. And its fun to try and grow healthier food every year, along with figuring out how to minimize the amount of work one needs to put into it...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:11 | 3320815 DaveyJones
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Monsanto the Motivator

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:00 | 3320964 Ignorance is bliss
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Thanks for the link. I have a small garden and want to enlarge it over my entire back yard. 

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:58 | 3321095 The Heart
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We love our garden.

We are however, very concerned about the increasing radioactive fallout that is coming in the rains and snow. See the post on GW's 2 yr Anniversary fukushima post for more info around this sad fact.

What to do? Small green houses seem to slow the over all contamination of leafy vegetables, and some plants like broccoli, and cauliflower. It does not help much as the rain is getting into the soils more and more year after year. It has not stopped getting really bad since that major fallout from the explosion in japan hit the USA. One has to really wonder, if this contamination is getting in to the heartland of the country on peoples gardens, how much is in the west coast agriculture? And, does anyone really think that organic vegetables from mexico are organic?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:23 | 3329366 scrappy
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I sprayed bentonite clay solution on my garden last year.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 20:12 | 3321148 Northeaster
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^ +1000

Simply a labor of love, even better when the kids are excited about the new season and work with you.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:52 | 3320754 francis_sawyer
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Yessiree [cheese]


I'm not a paid promoter of things... But the New England Cheese Co... is a great resource for anyone who wants to get started... [I think h_h uses them as well 4 rennet, cultures, & molds]... Get a reliable THERMOMETER & you're pretty much good to go [& don't cook in aluminum]...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:59 | 3320774 hedgeless_horseman
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Agreed.  New England Cheese Making is a great resource.

Here is some of Mrs. Horseman's cheese making exploits...

Here is a blue cheese Mrs. Horseman made that she says is about ready to eat....

and an update on the brie...

Or, you can eat the government cheese on the SNAP card.


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:00 | 3320788 francis_sawyer
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remember... It's not all limited to cheeses... It's everything from kefirs, to yogurts, farmers cheeses, cottage cheeses, ricottas... & everything imaginable that you can do with the whey...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:10 | 3320990 Miss Expectations
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The secret to why the French live longer - Roquefort cheese

Scientists discovered the French cheese, known for its mould and green veins, has specific anti-inflammatory properties.

It could provide clues to the “French paradox” and explain why people who live in the country enjoy good health despite favouring a diet high in saturated fat.


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:26 | 3321024 rodocostarica
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Excellent HH. You folks eat well. Any chance of posting ms HH out on the range shooting her .25 cal? We all need this kind of stuff to get our women into the groove.


If we can show great meals and great gun action it would help.



Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:03 | 3320795 WillyGroper
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thx FS!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:38 | 3320726 Hulk
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Just planted cabbage, carrots, tomatoes and spearmint. If i sign up for food stamps, can I pay myself???

( I used Dr Earths organic  fertilizer with probiotics, for the first time)

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 00:24 | 3321552 W74
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No, but you can sell the card at any Chinese/Korean/Arab/Indian owned convenience store for 1/3rd of what's on the card and they'll be happy to sell it to enterprizing negros 'round the block for 2/3rds who might actually use it to buy food at a "discount".  Since many cities don't have grocery stores (because of taxes, crime and supply chain issues) they'll end up spending more at convenience stores anyway. 

Some of the convenience store owners might ask you to buy something for a buck and will check the value of the card that way, from the receipt (kinda like how a gift card will indicate the remaining balance).  Living 'round the Baltimore area teaches a man a few things about street smarts.  Boy I yearn for the day when I no longer have to deal with the denizens here.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 01:31 | 3321606 Burnbright
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Hey hulk if you want to make a killer fertilizer I would make what is called compost tea. You can buy prepackaged stuff or you can make your own. All you need is a contianer for how ever much you feel you need to water with, an air stone and air pump, and what ever kind of fertilizer.


I used to use a woman's stalking as my tea bag and mix in a various high nutrient soils and then added other liquid nutrients as well as three key ingredients which were sea of green (probiotics) mychoryzhea powder (more probiotics) and molasses (energy for all the live cultures in the bucket). It usually only took a couple days and a nice foam foam would appear over the bucket to indicate it was ready to be poured. Compost tea is amazing, their are many ways to make it but once you start using it will never go back to traditional fertilizer I guarntee you. 

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 07:17 | 3321799 Optimusprime
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The idea of a "compost tea" reminds me of a "manure tea".  To get rid of bats in your roofing is one thing, but keeping the bats nearby for their pest control is another.

What I did is to make bat houses, "scent" them with a guano slurry (just water steeped in guano a couple days), hang them in nearby trees, and THEN exclude the bats--it did not take them long to figure our where to go.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:42 | 3320738 1C3-N1N3
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Why more and more junks lately for HH's home feasts?

Lookin' good, man!

St. Patty's is coming up, perfect weekend for some homebrewing...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:46 | 3320751 Hulk
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Some of the food is out of frame, so we had to take away some for that...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:50 | 3320757 francis_sawyer
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bunnies... We wanna see more bunnies... [never a junk from f_s though]...


@ h_h ~ Curiosity... Do you sell 'chicks'?... [No LEWD comments on that please]

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:13 | 3320790 hedgeless_horseman
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No.  We have used these folks with success...

...but we incubate our own, now.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:31 | 3320845 francis_sawyer
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I'm not gong to bother you with incubation temps [& rotation & all that]... But just a curiosity [answer, or don't, I'm just curious]...


- Do you SELL chicks [I kno they usually only fetch a buck or two a chick ~ but just curious]... OOPS ~ just figgered you answered that one

- How many 'breeds' are represented there in that incubator? [give or take] & WHAT ARE YOUR FAVORITE BREEDS?... I absolutely LOVE all your fotos... Please keep them coming whenever possible...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:44 | 3320899 hedgeless_horseman
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Mottled Houdans (white eggs) are our dual purpose breed of choice in the Texas heat.  Americanas (green eggs) are our layer of choice, and we have a few Red Broilers (brown eggs) around to grow up for roasting.

Our Brower Top Hatch incubator regulates the temp and rolls the eggs automatically.  We just need to add water on occasion to keep the eggs from drying out.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:49 | 3320927 francis_sawyer
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thx very much... f_s


ps... 'rolls automatically' ~ kewl

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:25 | 3320851 DOT
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Gotta get that Martzen brewed or oktoberfest will be a bust !

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:37 | 3321048 1C3-N1N3
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Absolutely! Munich, Vienna, and Pilsner malts are ready to go!

(Also Maris Otter, CaraRed, Cara 45, and a pinch of Chocolate malt for my red ale. It'll be a two-fer this weekend.)

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 20:04 | 3321124 The Heart
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"Why more and more junks lately for HH's home feasts?"

Re above: "Edit: Looks like the 'joo junkers' are out early... They don't simply JUNK ANY COMMENT that has 'jew' in it..."

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:50 | 3320760 Jason T
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Horseman is like John Galt!  


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:08 | 3320810 hedgeless_horseman
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No, I choose to live in the same world as everyone else.  Atlas Shrugged provides an entertaining look at some of the problems and character types of our world, but few, if any, practical solutions.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:05 | 3320791 DaveyJones
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it's good to know the true pecking order

I've got arugula, spinach, green onion, red cabbage, parsley, mizuna, mibuna, pac choy and a bunch of Kale growing like mad under the plastic and in the greenhouse

the true green stuff doesn't lose its value

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:20 | 3320836 Zap Powerz
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The only way fascism could be accepted in the USA is if a democrat controlled government implemented it.  And that is what happened.  So now that its here, imagine how shitty things are going to be when the republicans run this fascist system.

You see, it takes a democrat to get the democrats to accept fascism. Remember all the carping by the left that Bush was a fascist?  Yeah, the shut right the fuck up when their boy got elected and put Bush's programs and policies on steroids.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:45 | 3320916 Induced Coma
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so, just so we're all clear - you would prefer the red dildo instead of the blue strap-on?


It doesnt matter which team you pick, you're still taking it in the ass...




Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:59 | 3320957 Zap Powerz
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To be clear, I prefer no dildo.  I thought that was kinda clear in my post, but I guess it wasnt and for that I apologize.  I dont like teams, organizations, parties, groups, clubs, associations etc.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 20:09 | 3321061 McMolotov
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Fuck the Rotary Club!


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:20 | 3320653 american eyedol
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Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:23 | 3320660 spankthebernank
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We are well beyond the scenerios you describe.  There is a calm watching this train wreck from a high, safe perch.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:24 | 3320665 q99x2
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I'm sending your post to the DHS. You sound dangerous.

Did you ask your congressperson if you were allowed to talk like this?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:25 | 3320667 orez65
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Father, ZH, please forgive him he knows not what he says.

And, by the way, FUCK YOU!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:31 | 3320696 css1971
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Have you been hacking my webcam?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:37 | 3320720 10mm
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Is that you Tokyo Rose,oh i mean MDB.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:58 | 3320785 Mine Is Bigger
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"Screeming"?  I love it.  Scream + Screen, right? May I use it?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:01 | 3320966 spine001
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No, sorry, the ZH readers have read my comments and KNOW that while the FOMC keeps on printing money and accelerating the rate of printing with each so called QE, the stock market will keep on going up. Of course they also understand that this distorts the functioning of the markets, like even some members of the FOMC have pointed out (see minutes of FOMC meeting), since it creates an artificial put on stocks. So ZH member are making a ton of money, at least those who have risk tolerance, with a part of their money, they have the rest safely stashed away for the day when the system crashes due to its own weight (of fiat money) in the form of Gold and of course they don't measure the gold they have in USD buy in ounces as they should.

While the FOMC prints they party will continue, but when they stop, grab the handrails (they also know this, so they really can't stop without a MAJOR crash, and they know it, so they are getting scared shitless, since they have the most to loose from them loosing control over the economic system). So buy some stocks of your favorite company and watch the central banks, be ready to jump out at the least noise (or silence, when the music stops) that they will stop printing...

Until next time,


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:19 | 3321018 rodocostarica
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MDB I thought we were doomer libs? Now we are Greasy, immoral, ranters and our relationships are down the tube?

What an insighful character you are.

I think today you started snorting coke early and probably were still drinking after last nights trip to the biker bar.

P.S. check your jammies you probabbly have a stain down there below the belt.




Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:52 | 3321087 rhinoblitzing
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</sarc ... You forgot to take it off - Fixed it for ya...

Impeach Obama Now! Bitchez.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 22:55 | 3321474 WhiteNight123129
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MDB is long duration... mwhahahaha. Guys the thing to short is treasuries, I keep repeating that since last year, god damn it!


Tue, 03/12/2013 - 00:49 | 3321579 ZIRPThis
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Even if every word of that were true, who the hell cares?  Day trading aside, surely you're not actually arguing that the current market-up and VIX-down are somehow fueled by actual sound economic growth, because that would be bad for your health.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 04:54 | 3321715 BeetleBailey
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LOL...fuck off MDB

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 07:05 | 3321784 MassDecep
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I'm an avid ZH'er and do none of the sort. In fact, I am rather amused at your Judgment upon a very small, if any minority of person whom you categorize as ZH'ers.


All my ZH'er friends are not like you explain also. I fear you may take up weapons and unload on us if you miss your psychotropic fix.


Tue, 03/12/2013 - 07:57 | 3321851 quasimodo
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MDB, do you EVER fucking reply to all the replies? Or are you just another one line tool?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:48 | 3320929 Alexandre Stavisky
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End of Ponzi Prosperity

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:19 | 3320650 scatterbrains
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oh dear benny needs to print faster..   get to work mister chairman

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:05 | 3320802 Bunga Bunga
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print food stamps too

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:20 | 3320652 foodstampbarry
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Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:25 | 3320671 katchum
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At least the percentage people on foodstamps is flattening out. Sounds like an improvement.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:37 | 3320884 Citxmech
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Or not.  A reduction in the bleeding does not mean you're healthy.

Also, we will likely see a new surge in recipients when the next leg down occurs (and it will. . .).

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:27 | 3320675 q99x2
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EBT is hush money but its not enough. We demand more or we're coming for ya.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:38 | 3320721 Being Free
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yup, just wait till those getting only $200/mo find out that there are some getting $350/mo, it's unfair I tell you!  Why are so many being shafted?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:40 | 3320733 SmallerGovNow2
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Please do not open that can...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:27 | 3320683 youngman
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I think he is printing faster..wait until Obamacare hits full force next year....costs to the moon ..lawsuits to the moon...not good for an economy...only good for those who will fleece the disability newer highs....trillion highs....deficits will be huge.....obama will blame ????  anyone but himself....but they will pump the market..that is the paper wealth of the middle class...and they can´t take that yet.....they will in time..when they have the full power...they will take it all then...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:30 | 3320692 walküre
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up, up and away

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:46 | 3320752 negative rates
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Which room is this??

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:31 | 3320697 Global Hunter
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If the stock market goes up doesnt' that mean that more people get their food paid for by the government?  sarc.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:38 | 3320699 ebworthen
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How convenient that they have reduced the benefit amount as the numbers enrolled went up.

WalMart is probably having a talk with them about this as we speak.

About time I signed up for that SNAP thing, wouldn't want Chase Bank (the J.P. Morgue) to miss out on getting more fees and coinage for Jamie "Uncle Scrooge" Dimon to swim in.

I mean if they really want a recovery they just need to have the Treasury send everyone $75,000 a year in salary for being a citizen.  I mean, the banks get free jizz and they aren't even human beings (oh wait, the Supine Court says they are "individuals").

The self-righteous types will say that it is immoral to give people money for nothing, but we do it for corporations, insurers, and banks, so...?

Hell, we even let banks, corporations, and their leaders vaporize other people's money and property with no consequences (Corzine, MERS, LIBOR, etc.),

Damn, time for me to go pick some more cotton.

Shoo-fly don't bother me, shoo-fly don't bother me...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:43 | 3320739 tuttisaluti
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Do this for everyone worldwide and your exports will also explode......

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:42 | 3320907 ebworthen
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Don't understand why all these central planners aren't just sending checks out to the citizenry.

It would be more moral than giving free money to banks and corporations, but then again, this isn't about morality or citizens but enriching the elites so they can gain a sense of self oppressing their fellow human beings.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 22:07 | 3321376 tickhound
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No shit I mean at this point just do it already.  Ron Paul was saying this years ago with housing, etc. 

But its a fail on our part anyway, as freaking usual.  Not only did we let, and continue to allow, this free IF YOU CAN GET IT top-down money flow... but we SANTELLI ourselves into being LOSERS should any of it be directed our way.  LOL and it doesn't matter anyway, NONE of it really ends up here... it ends up in a re-finance that comes with new terms, mutually beneficial supposedly and other goodies for the little "commie" bastards... 

And the fact that we aren't DEMANDING across the board write-downs is why we will CONTINUE to fail.  It's called fucking NEGOTIATION people.  And it's basically MOCKING the system.  I don't really understand the problem here.  Beppe Grillo's on it.  I mean wtf is our Carlin? 

"The Banco of all HEAVEN!!  the BOOOOOONDesBank"  LMAO!  FORZA BEPPE, bitchez!

Screw this implanted nobility guilt bullshit.  It doesn't work.  It won't work.  They'll cyber crash/grid bullshit accidental explosion the whole thing before they really do us any favors.  Cuz they don't care about you.  They don't care about you.  They don't give a fuck about you.  They don't give a fuck about you AT ALL.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:32 | 3320701 zorba THE GREEK
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All one has to do in the U.S. is look around and see the real economy, such as the explosive growth

of check-cashing businesses and title loan businesses and payday loan businesses and cash for gold

businesses, to see a middle class in decline. Most people tend to ignore the obvious as long as their

retirement/SS/welfare check comes in the mail. MSM has been totally compromised and only reports

the economic news as given to them by the government bureau of propaganda. The day of reckoning

draws near.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:38 | 3320725 SmallerGovNow2
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Kinda like Greece no?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:08 | 3320986 spine001
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Guys, don't miss it, the party will continue for a long time still, the USA has the printing press, greece doesn't!!!!

The dollar is also the reference currency, the Dracma is not. The Euro is not!

The party will end, since the stock market will explode up, people will see this when it is too late and take their money out of their fixed income investments and the DJI will be already way too high, and they will loose big time, there is no way around this. The interest rate will be kept low on loans for as far as the eye can see. By the time people realize how much they are loosing in real terms, versus the stock market and start taking their money out, whith the consequent increase in interest rates and capital loses, it will be indeed way too late.

So, either buy Gold and save in ounces and forget about this mess and the relative value of the fiat currencies with respect to your gold savings (physical please) or buy some good long term companies that have high cash flows. Hig Cash flows  and high rotation of stock are the key to survival in what is coming.

And remember my leason to Paul Krugman: Inflation as measure by the CPI is worthless as an indicator in this situation. The only thing that counts is the relative growth in money supply with regards to the growth of available goods and services, since that indicates future inflation. Who cares about the past? Only the loosers that will be left dancing with no chairs and no music when the party stops!!!

Until next time,


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:33 | 3320703 Caviar Emptor
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In our Bi world, there is no contradiction between mass starvation and a soaring stock market with newly minted billionaires . It makes perfect sense

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:33 | 3320704 Clowns to the l...
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Also, the more people that go on food stamps, the lower the benefit amount at a time when you get less bang for your buck at the grocery store.


Nothing to see here, all is well, we're in the very best of hands.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:38 | 3320724 Caviar Emptor
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Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:38 | 3320714 busted by the b...
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I think most of us assume more people on food stamps means people are becoming poorer in America.  But I'm beginning to think this is stealth fiscal stimulus. 

Because the administration can't get fiscal stimulus through congress, and Ben says he can't support the economy with monetary policy alone, they are easing up on requirements for food stamp eligibility or pushing to get more people on the rolls to push more money out the door.  And with no debt limit to stop them, out it goes!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:40 | 3320731 Caviar Emptor
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It's keeping WMT from laying off 10,000

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:18 | 3320829 youngman
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exactly..its a wink wink and your in...especially if you got some color in loans too..and disability..that is the big win...for life..they will never cut you out of that one...what politicians will cut disability costs go on forever...and the people who work for the government to handle the clients..forever and more of them too....

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:22 | 3320838 Clycntct
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We need to get a group talk on that very issue. There are some events which with many eyes may shine a brighter light on some of the stealth.

I have been foolowing and playing my new welfare game playing in this area.

and I could show you many different banks playing in the pool.

Spend some get some.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:37 | 3320716 lolmao500
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Cut them all to 0$ overnight or hack the EBT program and the revolution will be done before you say AW YEAH!

Come on Anonymous... end the US dictatorship... hack the EBT program...

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:39 | 3320728 Peter Pan
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I would like to see a line ith 47 million people standing in it.

Then they too will perhaps see what is happening to them.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:41 | 3320736 adr
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Man, these people getting EBT cards better start making babies quick. Don't they know mo babies mo money. That benefit per household is declining.

You get yo'sef a nice multi family unit, gubmint assisted rent of course. You put yo 16 year old daughter in the top, get her pregant two times. If you gots a 15 year old daughter, get her pregnant too. Make sure each baby daddy diff'nt, get mo child support, like mo welfare fo free. EBT card fo all, WIC fo all. Of course you gots to have the townhouse, you've got Vertigo, SSDI baby ain't parkin that Tahoe three spots away from the door.

You gots five grand comin easy. You know they gots these online schools now. Ain't have to worry bout drivin the kids to school. Get each yo kids a brand new laptop, free high speed internet too. Make sure you gets Time Warner, they can't split the TV off the internet, free cable now too.

Shit, Obama makin dis so easy, ain't even gots to apply. Just stop by the Urban League office, they set you up.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:12 | 3320821 ekm
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I can't stop laughing

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:37 | 3320881 cougar_w
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Say ... was that you sitting three seats behind me on the lightrail this morning, shouting into your cell phone about your new Caddy and that bitch and how she's an ungrateful cunt but there's lots of cunts anyway? Cuz that was a lot more revealing than you intended.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:43 | 3320740 Oldwood
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Everything looks up. I don't see how anything could go wrong now. Yes, that should do it! Now for the final straw, all I need do is move my IRA out of that .55% saving account into a nice juicy mutual fund and sit back and watch as the whole thing comes tumbling down. KaBoom!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:43 | 3320742 Seasmoke
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I want some free food too.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 08:33 | 3321908 bunnyswanson
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Foodstamps are the 21st century soup line.  (someone else said that first)

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:50 | 3320743 kaiserhoff
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100 million Americans are ELIGIBLE for food stamps?  Something doesn't compute.

OK,  I see what they are doing, but the headline and the body make it look like all non-insitutionalized Americans are eligible for EBT.

Wording in the evenings has been flaky lately, or maybe this is a new Obama Initiative.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:45 | 3320748 AGoldhamster
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It will get A LOT worse coming 3 years. Around 30% eventually. Or worse.
1929ff. Watch the coming triple eclipse in May.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:47 | 3320755 ziggy59
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Does JPM get paid for, being is it custodian(?) of the EBT program?
I cant see them doing it for free..

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:51 | 3320762 kaiserhoff
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Does a bear shit in the woods?


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:05 | 3320804 Crash Overide
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...and does Howdy Doody have wooden balls?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:59 | 3320962 edb5s
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Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:57 | 3321388 JethroBodien
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Does an old laddy without teeth get satisfaction from sucking on dem cock and balls?


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 19:38 | 3321054 ebworthen
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JPM runs unemployment debit cards too; nice hefty fees tacked on of course.

Cozy arrangement, eh? 

No need to wonder now why JPM got all the bailout goodies and helped Corzine vaporize $1.2 billion is there?

Citiznes, Soldiers, Veterans - I want you all to salute and/or put your hands over your heart when you pass a Chase Bank branch, that is our government dear fellow citizens.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:48 | 3320756 Caviar Emptor
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We blew an Internet bubble, and a real estate bubble, so let's blow a biflationary DOW-SNAP bubble! Hey at least we'll enjoy the spectacle when it goes down in flames

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:56 | 3320776 Lord Of Finance
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Can food stamp recipients buy food insurance with those?


EVERY where I look I see the signs of a depressed economy. I know of so many people laid off. Just in my immediate family, I have two laid off sisters, and two recently laid off brother-in-laws, and I am not even going to get into my immediate friends and aquaintances.


BTW. The average salary of these laid off family members was $85,000 per year. The lowest paid was my younger sister who made $68,000 p/yr.


This economic propaganda bullshit is equal to the economic propaganda of the nazis.


Ohboy! I really pissed some people this time.  I have become good at dodging red arrows:D

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:06 | 3320805 walküre
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Nazis were job creators. Unemployment under Adolf's regime was pretty low and jobs and opportunity were actually there. He built massive amounts of infrastructure. The German Autobahn system was built in great part during Hitler's rule.

But I understand what you're trying to say. Propaganda was a big factor during that time but the facts about employment for Germans weren't exaggerated. Unfortunately that didn't last and the reasons for the full employment were in preparation for a big war effort.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:32 | 3320870 rhinoblitzing
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TSA is perfect example of how you recruit for the SS...

Take the unemployed in a bad economy, put them in a smart looking uniform, give them authority and power, and most of all... have thier job duties include doing demeaning things to ordinary citizens - including children, and especially pretty ladies.  After a few weeks thier morals disapear and they start counting the days till they get paid vacation time.

When they open the internment and re-education camps - the transition should be quite simple.

Impeach Obama Now!


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:36 | 3320875 Lord Of Finance
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Thanks for the informed response. I had a co-worker who was a real history buff. He said that the economic data was greatly skewed. But I have not read up on my WWII history. Maybe that history buff was a bluff!


I know Russian history well, especially soviet, but I claim ignorance on nazi Germany. I was only going by what I was told.


"It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's the things you already know, that just ain't so."


Thanks Walkure, and thanks Twain!

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 21:01 | 3321270 Totentänzerlied
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Militarization programs are great for creating jobs... until they're not. It was all unsustainable growth, but really it couldn't have been otherwise, every aspect was centrally planned.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 08:56 | 3321979 TheMerryPrankster
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but war build-up produces jobs, and wars kill job seekers and the employed, reducing candidates for newly opened slots and increasing the number of new job openings.

War is the ultimate employment machine. War is the destruction of the destruction/creation cycle.


The u.s war machine is too ineffecient, it kills too many while using too few men and resources. War by buttons and drones employs so few....

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 08:44 | 3321949 bunnyswanson
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The Weimar Republic was severely affected by the Great Depression triggered by the Wall Street crash in 1929. The crash and subsequent economic stagnation led to increased demands on Germany to repay the debts owed to the U.S. As the Weimar Republic was very fragile in all of its existence, the depression proved to be devastating, and played a major role in the NSDAP's takeover.

The Versailles treaty was considered by most Germans to be a punishing and degrading document because it forced them to surrender resource-rich areas and pay massive amounts of compensation. These punitive reparations caused consternation and resentment, although the actual economic damage resulting from the Treaty of Versailles is difficult to determine. While the official reparations were considerable, Germany ended up paying only a fraction of them. However, the reparations did damage Germany's economy by discouraging market loans, which forced the Weimar government to finance its deficit by printing more money, causing rampant hyperinflation. In addition, the rapid disintegration of Germany in 1919, due to the return of a disillusioned army, the rapid change from possible victory in 1918 to defeat in 1919, and the political chaos may have caused a psychological imprint on Germans that could lead to extreme nationalism, shown by Hitler.

Most historians agree that many industrial leaders identified the Weimar Republic with labour unions and with the Social Democrats, who had established the Versailles concessions of 1918/1919. Although some did see Hitler as a means to abolish the latter, the Republic was already unstable before any industry leaders were supporting Hitler. Even those who supported Hitler's appointment often did not want Nazism in its entirety and considered Hitler a temporary solution in their efforts to abolish the Republic. Industry support alone cannot explain Hitler's enthusiastic support by large segments of the population, including many workers who had turned away from the left.

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Wikipedia page cited (propaganda)


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 17:56 | 3320778 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:05 | 3320801 Crash Overide
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"Foodstamp Recipients Hit Record, Alongside Record Dow Jones And Record Debt: 20% Of Eligible Americans On EBT"

I think we all know how this ends... Twain did say history rhymes.

Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:09 | 3320808 real
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im sorry to bring this up again  but illegals are making up the increase.  i work with many immigrants from central and south amarica and they all tell me about how the Latina gets pregnant here fast and then gets on food  stamps and section 8 this rise in food stamps is not the issue. like i tell my young son's it is not Hitlers fault, but the people that allowed him to do what e did.  just as we allow delusion to pose as reality.  OUR elected officials are INSANE and we continually vote for them.  occupy occupied for 4 months and then ended as it was taken over by insanity.   there will be another occupy, and maybe occupy with weapons to defend the occupied space. dont cross this line because we are now serious either let this system fall and be replaced or prove that this system can jump a head and evolve  

and by the way tell your local Latino that the u.s. took over their land in the early 1900's and that now they come here and join a military to conquer another vital interest land is like kind of fucked up.  oh balls bag are we not so fucking screwed up. 


Mon, 03/11/2013 - 18:11 | 3320817 kaiserhoff
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No need to apologize for the truth.  I'm seeing it every day.  In the Orlando area, white people are an endangered species.

Mostly Porto Ricans, but coming from all over Latin America.  This is part of Obummer's Plan.  No doubt.

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