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Guest Post: Boeing Declares War on Privacy in Washington State

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Washington state has led the way in many respects when it comes to the drone issue, something I highlighted recently in my article: Just Say NO: Seattle Residents Kill the City’s Drone Program.  It’s not just Seattle though, there is a bi-partisan bill in the Washington state legislature, H.B. 1771, which limits drone use within the entire state.  The bill has already passed its House Committee hearing and, as expected, the state’s corporate overlords have started to fight back.  Specifically, Boeing.  From the Examiner:

A bi-partisan bill to limit drone use within Washington state is meeting resistance from the aerospace and defense corporation Boeing.

 

Just last month, H.B. 1771, a bill to put limits on government drone use within Washington state, passed its House Committee hearing. The bill establishes guidelines and standards for the use of drones by public entities to protect the privacy rights of Washington residents.

 

“This bill quite simply provides protection to the citizens of Washington state from warrantless surveillance. That’s our intent here. To start a conversation and say if these things are going to be used, you will protect the constitutional rights of the citizens,” said Rep. David Taylor (R), the bill’s primary sponsor.

 

Now with the bill on the Floor Calendar, afterfailed attempts to stop it from police and a drone lobbyist, Representatives Taylor and co-sponsor Matt Shea (R) have confirmed Boeing’s efforts and indicated they have met with a Boeing lobbyist to discuss their concerns.

 

“One of the aspects Boeing is opposed to is legislative oversight at the local level,” Rep. Taylor said.

There you have it folks.  Boeing does not believe the people of Washington state should have any say about how things are done in, well, Washington state.

Rep. David Taylor (R), the bill’s primary sponsor, and all the others supporting it deserve our full support.  You can email David at:  david.taylor@leg.wa.gov

Full article here.

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Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:12 | 3324202 Lost Wages
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Do gun enthusiasts have the firepower to shoot drones out of the sky? I wonder what the penalty would be for that.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:15 | 3324213 Critical Path
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Don't bring a gun to an unmanned vehicle/hellfire missle fight

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:22 | 3324241 knukles
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Boeing doesn't like "oversight at the local level"
LOL
But overflight at the local level is PeachieKeenNeatoShankerGreat

"Overflight for Oversight"

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:39 | 3324287 CH1
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How dare the serfs complain about the surveillance that Boeing already paid for!

 

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:44 | 3324295 Beam Me Up Scotty
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If Boeing wants to make money how about they produce a new jet that can actually fly instead of being grounded for months and just butt out of the surveillance of US citizens business?

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:28 | 3324400 Xibalba
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but then China would have the blueprints....

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 08:10 | 3325363 MagicHandPuppet
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All of your privacies are belong to us!

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 21:02 | 3324482 Kirk2NCC1701
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Scotty, beam him up and show him around.  Kirk out.  ;-)

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 10:36 | 3325810 Ident 7777 economy
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Beam Me Up Scotty:

" If Boeing wants to make money how about they produce a new jet that can actually fly instead of being grounded for months and ... ? "

 

 

Twerp, are you familiar with the first experience Boeing had with the 747 when IT was first rolled out for use by the airlines?

 

PROBABLY NOT ... your opinion is therefore WORTHLESS ...

 

 

 

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 11:15 | 3325952 thewhitelion
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Perhaps you missed the point.  His comment was entertaining

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:45 | 3324298 Critical Path
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Even better, lets pay Boeing for our own surveillance via taxation.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 04:56 | 3325221 lakecity55
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"Give me Liberty or give me Dronz!"

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:23 | 3324243 DJ Happy Ending
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Try skeet shooting with a rifle and you will understand the nature of the problem.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:12 | 3324368 Citxmech
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Yup, there's a reason why WWII-era anti-aircraft guns used exploding shells (lots and lots of them).

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:24 | 3324389 Cloud9.5
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Jap rifles had antiaircraft sights on them. A dollar bullet versus a million dollar aircraft.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 23:28 | 3324894 ceilidh_trail
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Just gotta lead 'em...

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 21:50 | 3324633 Quit Your Bitchin
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I agree, but everything that flies is a target.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:16 | 3324220 MachineMan
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They will make a law for that too.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:28 | 3324258 e_goldstein
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Aim for the optics.

http://www.wickedlasers.com.hk

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:42 | 3324291 CH1
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I wonder what the penalty would be for that.

First, it will involve fully armored thugs breaking down your door at 3 AM and terrorizing your family.

SWAT teams are terror teams.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:30 | 3324407 Overfed
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Soon, they will be Einsatzgruppen.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 04:55 | 3325219 lakecity55
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With mobile extermination vans.

"Mommy, that black truck is down by the Jones' house today! I'm going to miss little Alex."

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:29 | 3324403 Overfed
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Maybe, but I bet there will be much greater success found in jamming the control signal or blinding the optics with a laser.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 04:53 | 3325217 lakecity55
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In most respects with these flying pests, when the time comes, it will be found to be easy to scuttle them.

Just be patient.

 

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 21:46 | 3324618 Onohymagin
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Does a SAM classify as a firearm?

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:25 | 3324211 Cdad
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"The bill establishes guidelines and standards for ...the use of drones by public entities to protect the privacy rights of Washington residents."

 

There it is again....George Orwell...

 

Sorry...guidelines and standards for my privacy are established in The Constitution...and backed up by case law dating back a couple hundred years. Banning the use of drones to spy on citizens, drones the citizens have paid for, would suffice...and no matter what the corrupted schmucks at Boeing have to say.


 

 

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:46 | 3324302 CH1
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guidelines and standards for my privacy are established in The Constitution...

That's what they *should* be, but none of that matters anymore.

This IS tyranny. All else is mental inertia and santimonious bullshit.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:14 | 3324214 Dieselclam
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51 years in Washington state and 34 years at boeing. I'm done with both.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:46 | 3324301 machineh
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And Boeing already moved to the Land of Obama.

As they used to say in 1974, will the last person to leave Seattle please turn out the lights?

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:09 | 3324365 CH1
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And Boeing already moved to the Land of Obama.

Boeing moved to Kenya?!

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:26 | 3324394 Ima anal sphincter
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Excellent!! +1000

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 21:56 | 3324649 A Nanny Moose
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Well played

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 04:50 | 3325215 lakecity55
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No, silly. Indonesia.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:16 | 3324216 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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And more pro-Obama nutjobs and stupidity....

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/feds-spend-15-million-study-why-lesbians...

(CNSNews.com) – The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese and why gay males are not, calling it an issue of “high public-health significance."

Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Mass., has received two grants administered by NIH’s Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) to study the relationship between sexual orientation and obesity.

They could have saved that money and just asked Bloomberg instead /sarc,

 

http://conservativefiringline.com/eleanor-clift-accuses-rand-paul-of-try...

Speaking on the McLaughlin Report this weekend, liberal columnist Eleanor Clift accused Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) of “trying to stir up a revolt against the U.S. government,” an act of treason.

Clift made the astonishing remark right after acknowledging that Paul’s concerns about the administration’s use of drones is a valid one.

 

At first, she hedged, saying she couldn’t think of a “graceful” way of making her point, but after encouragement from host John McLaughlin, she unloaded.

“It raises questions about what he’s up to. It’s like he’s trying to stir a revolt against the US government,” she said.

So now, according to Clift, Paul’s marathon 13-hour filibuster raising serious constitutional questions is equivalent to stirring up a revolt against the government — an actual act of treason.

Clearly, the country is turning stupid when treason is defined as a U.S. Senator defending the Constitution and the rule of law.

 

And last but certainly not least,

http://cnsnews.com/video/national/feinstein-its-legal-hunt-humans-15-rou...

Feinstein -"it’s legal to hunt humans"

Watch the video, the context doesn't make it any less loony.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:18 | 3324230 edb5s
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We are fucked.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:27 | 3324252 Scro
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Yes, we are sofa king f'ed

http://youtu.be/NtpUv4VBDhA

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:03 | 3324350 A Lunatic
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Moar and moar fuckder with each passing day.......

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 21:22 | 3324543 XenoFrog
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End Game. All that is left is to clear the board.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:22 | 3324239 chubbar
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Ooh, ooh, I know this one! Pussy is more fattening than Dick?

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:24 | 3324247 knukles
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Would you like that dork straight or with sweetener?

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:21 | 3324386 Ignatius
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"Shaken and stirred."

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 20:32 | 3324415 besnook
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i hope the conclusion of the study is male cum is an appetite suppressant and even one load/day will keep a woman fit and trim.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 03:05 | 3325181 Brit_Abroad
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Step up folks

Dr.S's warm sperm gargle.

Cures all known ailments.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:18 | 3324228 venom
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I have my own "drone."  I throw it up and have it circle 250 feet over my house on Mischief Night.  I once caught a kid egging my house.  I took the video down the street and showed his parents.  I like to think he got a whooping.  Better to tell his parents and have him get hit with a wooden spoon than call the cops.

 

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:19 | 3324232 Strider52
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Don't Drone me, Bro.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 22:29 | 3324730 Telemakhos
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Ironically, Florida (home of the "Don't Tase Me Bro" incident) is in this game too, now.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/12/3282081/lawmakers-want-drones-grounded.html

The Libertarian wing of the Republican party (which largely controls Florida) is teaming up with the ACLU to push legislation to keep local law enforcement from using drones.  It's being fast-tracked and made it through committees with unanimous approval in both houses (mirror versions were started in each).

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:19 | 3324231 kaiten
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The reason why Boeing is against drones is quite prosaic, I think. Boeing produces passanger planes, which they need to test(before handing to customers). More drones in air, less space and more restrictions for testing the newly build airplanes.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:26 | 3324251 knukles
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Read it again.
Boeing is against the against the drones bill.

Tue, 03/12/2013 - 19:38 | 3324281 kaiten
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Yeah, sry I misread. Apologies.

Wed, 03/13/2013 - 00:06 | 3324969 prains
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I too am against the against the against bill, we can't stand for this, please someone sit down

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