Carnival Becoming A Circus As Another Cruise Ship Suffers "Power Outages, Overflowing Toilets"

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While "this time may be different" for the centrally-planned stock market, every historic example of subsequent ruin notwithstanding, the very recent past is again hitting Carnival Cruise Lines with a vengeance, as one short month after its disabled Triump cruise ship fiasco, in which passengers were trapped on board a filthy ship for five days, the cruise company is forced to suffer through a very humiliating case of deja vu.

Reuters reports, "A Carnival Cruise Lines ship was stuck at port in St. Maarten in the Caribbean on Thursday with equipment trouble, a month after another Carnival vessel was disabled in the Gulf of Mexico by a fire, trapping thousands of passengers for nearly five days. The captain of the Carnival Dream reported a problem with the emergency diesel generator, which controls the ship's propulsion, a U.S. Coast Guard spokesman said. "Right now the passengers are being kept on board the ship for accountability reasons," Doss said. "They were scheduled to leave today so the captain has decided to have everybody remain on board at this time. CNN reported that passengers aboard the Carnival Dream had contacted the cable news channel complaining of power outages and overflowing toilets, tales reminiscent of the troubles on the Carnival Triumph."

And to think the passengers could have just stayed home, opened their E-trade accounts, BTFD, and basked in the glow of the wealth effect, knowing full well at the current rate of Fed liquidity injections they could all soon afford their own private island.

AP has more:

A U.S. Coast Guard spokeswoman in Miami told the Associated Press Thursday that Carnival Dream's captain reported possible trouble with the ship's propulsion system. Petty Officer Sabrina Laberdesque said the ship has sewage and power and officials are working to correct the problems. She says the Coast Guard is not involved because the ship is moored.

 

Multiple passengers aboard the Carnival Dream told CNN.com of the unpleasant unfolding situation while docked in port at Philipsburg, St. Maarten.

 

"We are not allowed off of the boat despite the fact that we have no way to use the restrooms on board," Jonathan Evans of Reidsville, N.C., said in an email early Thursday. "The cruise director is giving passengers very limited information and tons of empty promises. What was supposed to take an hour has turned into seven-plus hours."

 

Gregg Stark, who is traveling aboard the 1,004-foot liner with his wife and two children, said “human waste” can be found on the floor of some of the ship’s bathrooms and some toilets have overflowed. The ship, which can accommodate up to 3,600 passengers and more than 1,300 crew members, also has mechanical issues.

 

"The elevators have not been working,” Stark told CNN. “They've been turning them on and off, on and off."

 

Ship officials announced over the liner’s public address system that they were trying to fix the problem and were working on the generators. A few hours later, another announcement was made, saying the problem was worse than expected, Stark said.

 

The Dream had been scheduled to leave port at about 5 p.m. ET Wednesday after sailing from Port Canaveral in Florida on Saturday.

At the current pace that Carnival is destroying its business model, pretty soon the only way the company remains viable is if it begins accepting payment with EBTs. Which, we are confident, both the administration and JPMorgan are well ahead of us in developing.

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Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:14 | 3329333 Yellowhoard
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What a crappy cruise line.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:19 | 3329348 francis_sawyer
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The "Love [Canal]" Boat

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:32 | 3329388 SWRichmond
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The captain of the Carnival Dream reported a problem with the emergency diesel generator, which controls the ship's propulsion...

I, for one, would be very interested to know how the emergency diesel generator controls the ship's propulsion.  If the emergency diesel generator were running all the time, and thus relied upon to "control propulsion", it wouldn't really be an "emergency" generator, now would it?  And since vital electrical buses NEVER have only one source of power, one can assume that the bus is powered from the diesel generator only when normal power sources are unavailable.  On the other hand, if there were certain components of the propulsion control system which were powered from the emergency (vital) electrical bus, then that might make some sense.  But then, if the emergency bus, which should normally get its power from normal ship's power systems (and only get power from the emergency generator under...emergencies), needs to be powered from an emergency generator, then there likely ARE problems with other shipboard power systems, and this whole thing makes more sense.

Lying their assess off, they are.

Business relationships should never begin with an insult.  When companies tell bullshit stories, they are insulting us.  The media helps them get away with it.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:57 | 3329489 camaro68ss
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Bring a whole new meaning to "poop deck"

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:06 | 3329685 TerminalDebt
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Its "emergency" because carnival ships are made to only move in emergencies. They are designed to float aimlessly at sea, with no food or running water.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 14:06 | 3330105 nugjuice
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Meh, Carnival's not that bad. It serves its purpose. If you're under 30 and single there's no better cheap party boat. I've been on 2 Carnival cruises and hooked up at least half a dozen attractive (and drunk) girls. I even managed a tug job from one of their 'masseuses' while there was only a small room divider separating us from some middle-aged women getting their hair did.

But if you're over 30, or not single, splurge the extra couple hundred bucks and go on Royal Caribbean...where people are only slightly less disgusting

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 15:22 | 3330395 eddymunster
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Was the "tug" boat captain's name Steven?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:12 | 3329522 LFMayor
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I'm going to wager a lot of these larger boats are diesel/electic drive line.   The shafts (via a reduction gear system) are rotated by electric motors, more than likely powered by a gas turbine/generator for normal operation.  The diesel is the backup electric generator and more than likely will not be able to carry the full bus load of the ships entire electric needs, engineering (steering, making way) will have priority over power to the casino or the HVAC system in a pinch.  

Steam powered boiler/turbine systems are complex and more costly due to increased manpower and maintenance factors.  The USN was phasing out steam when I was a Machinist Mate, albiet that was a while back now.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:37 | 3329603 NoDebt
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Makes you wonder what happened to the PRIMARY generator that they were running on the backup and then the backup failed leaving them utterly SOL.  Redundancy is nice, but when something breaks you still have to fix it before the backup also fails.

How many other Carnival ships have been running around on the high seas on "backup power" and for how long?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 16:09 | 3330554 TeamDepends
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Carnival attorneys:  "Well, it says "carnival" right there on the side of the ship.  What did you expect?"

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 17:27 | 3330776 TeamDepends
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"Would you fly with Drunken Chimp Airways?  Deposit your money in Crazy Clown Bank?  We didn't think so.  Here is your complimentary Carnival coffee cup and there's the door, and come again!"

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 19:23 | 3331134 StychoKiller
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TeamDepends FTW!! :>D

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 14:22 | 3330160 Son of Loki
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This boat must be part of Carnival's "Dreamliner" series of ships:

 

Dreamliner battery redesign approved by FAA

 

But the FAA gave no indication of when the planes might be allowed to carry passengers again.

All 50 Dreamliners in operation were grounded after the batteries emitted smoke on several separate occasions.

 

 

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:19 | 3329542 SoundMoney45
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I suspect the high voltage/power portions of the electrical power systems on these ships require routine maintenance, and that this routine maintenance requires said system to be shutdown.  As the ships are in port for only a few hours between cruises and are powered up, one is inclined to speculate that critical maintenance of high voltage/power systems has been deferred a bit too long.  Perhaps the CFO's spreadsheet was wrong after all. 

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:49 | 3329837 Freddie
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Morons who take cruises sign their lives away.  You might as well take a one week vacation in prison.  You have as many rights and protection in jail then on these floating accidents waiting to happen.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 13:03 | 3329870 cougar_w
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The company can lie to the media and do all the time, but the captain of the ship cannot lie to the Coast Guard. If as you say he claims they are on emergency power, then the truth is they are without power.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 19:36 | 3331146 Freddie
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The Coast Guard?  They ran interference in the Gulf of Mexico for stunet oil platform and the cornext poison spewed into the ocean for months.   The Dutch or Norwegians could have fixed it in a week but were told to stay away. 

F O's Coast Guard.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 17:29 | 3330785 El Oregonian
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Carnival Cruise Lines has more than serious toilet 'Outflow' problems... They're having a serious capital 'Outflow' problem...

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:40 | 3329797 msmith9962
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They are about to launch a new ship too.. "Colostomy Bag of the Seas"

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 13:16 | 3329931 Jena
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More like "Bedpan of the Seas".

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:21 | 3329349 Popo
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Welcome to the party prison. 

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:41 | 3329423 Silver Garbage Man
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Floating FEMA CAMP.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:03 | 3329501 camaro68ss
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haha, you made me spit up my coffee.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:15 | 3329527 Manthong
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Don’t laugh.. they’re going to want to find some use for those empty things in the post-new normal.

hmm.. Gulag Arcofcarnival?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 13:05 | 3329880 cougar_w
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Prison ships are a common fixture in history.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:47 | 3329450 LedMizer
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Won't let them off the ship?  Seems passengers outnumber crew 3:1.  What's the problem here?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:19 | 3329731 Bicycle Repairman
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The passengers are unarmed.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:46 | 3329823 Freddie
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Passengers are retards for being on a Carnival ship or really any cruise ship.  Carnival is Mickey Arinson and the other big one is the Priztkers aka friend of Obummber.  See a pattern there with these cruise lines?

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:27 | 3329761 johngaltfla
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Think about this wonderful cruise as I love that island it is a blast.

 

On the Dutch side the street vendors sell cold Heiniken for a $1 a bottle to tourists while you shop and some pretty fun beach clubs at night.

 

On the French side topless Euro hotties, excellent food, great wine selections.

 

At port the Carnival customers get to shit in plastic bags and watch the fun everyone else is having.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 16:01 | 3330516 Son of Loki
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The more I read about Carnival the more i think I'm giving my Mother-in-Law a free cruise ticket on Carnival for this summer.

 

What better way to say, "I love you too."

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:22 | 3329368 zuuma
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Hopefully, the trapped passengers will react the same way that Brooklyn's apartment dwellers did during the "sandy" hurricane.

They'll crap & piss in the hallways, then return to their rooms.

There! Problem solved. I feel better!

During disasters, people are always awesome!

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f0_1351885174

http://forums.hannity.com/archive/index.php/t-2433987.html

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:29 | 3329390 Sauk Leader
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Gardyloo!

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:23 | 3329371 Bryan
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Aye.  Maybe Cap'n Crunch is piloting these boats.

 

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:32 | 3329399 Lewshine
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Crappy cruise line? Not according to the stock price - The bigger these cruiseline disasters become the higher their stock value. So I ask you...Who really gives a shit??

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:40 | 3329613 NoDebt
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The passengers.  Literally.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:16 | 3329529 Freddie
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Who would be stupid enough to get on one of those.  Fools.  they probably sit at home being brainwashed by TV/Hollywood while shoving corncobs....

F Carnival and their Israeli owners.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 13:14 | 3329926 ElvisDog
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Another example of why the "mega cruise ships catering to the middle class" is a dying business model. They can't raise prices because the middle class itself is being squeezed and doesn't have as much discretionary income as it used to. Meanwhile, their costs (particularly fuel and food costs) are going up. So, the only way they can stay in business and fill their ships is to cut other costs, primarily maintenance, refurbishment, and wages for their crew. Problem with that is the "cruise experience" for their passengers just gets crappier and crappier.

In the future, cruise ships will be relatively small and will cater to the wealthy. The middle class (what's left of it) won't be able to afford to go on cruises.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 13:37 | 3330000 Freddie
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+1 Elvis

Same syndrome with Wal Mart.  Hope & Change has wrecked the middle class but Arinson and the Pritzkers are Obama type supporters. 

These ship have no maint, cruise really slow to save fuel, cut corners on everything else, make the morons who take cruise sign all their rights away.   There is also WAY too much capacity aka too many ships and not enough fools.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:18 | 3329344 Buckaroo Banzai
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I guess this is what happens when you pack 5,000 people into a glorified floating sardine can. "What if we built a boat with an infrastructure sized for 2,000 people, but packed 5,000 people on it instead?"

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:24 | 3329373 Sauk Leader
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I am sure they will get a voucher towards their next cruise. To be fair it gets a little roomier along the way, usually there are a couple of people that go missing.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:07 | 3329514 LFMayor
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Yeah, day three the shows have good seating at last, because half the people are in their cabins, acting like root-beer dispensers.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:17 | 3329534 Freddie
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Fat idiots shitting all over the hallways.   Who in their right mind would go on these ship?   RETARDS.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 13:54 | 3330067 msmith9962
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You should write marketing material for Carnival.  Hardest I've laughed all day.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 19:25 | 3331137 Freddie
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LOL!   :-)

It is beyond absurd that anyone in their right ****ing mind would subject themselves to Carnival's voyages of the damned.  If the USA had any laws or regulations - these criminals would be shut down.  The elites just get away with everything.

 

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:17 | 3329537 Matt
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The Navy packs a lot of people onto aircraft carriers, and I haven't heard too many horror stories of them dfrifting at sea for days without power or sewage systems. I suspect a lack of proper maintenance, in the name of maximizing profit, is the real culprit here.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 11:44 | 3329627 NoDebt
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All US carriers are nuclear-powered.  They don't skimp on maintenance because you don't want to know what happens if you have a little "ooppsie" with a nuclear reactor.  (think:  Fukushima, Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, etc.)

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:55 | 3329846 Citxmech
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That's my bet:  They're deferring maintenance to (ahem) "keep afloat."  On my news channel this morning they mentioned that the ship would hold 5k passengers but that the cruise line did not report the actual number of passengers. . . Betcha they don't want it known that there are only something like 473 people on this floating disaster.

Cruise lines, like the airlines, are going to go the way of the Dodo.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 17:41 | 3330834 PrintemDano
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Sailors also work their asses off in the engineering spaces.  No union rules....

A little biased former submarine sailor but it's the truth!

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 10:19 | 3329350 PMakoi
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I took a Carnival cruise.  Once.  That was more than enough.

Thu, 03/14/2013 - 12:07 | 3329696 zapdude
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Same here.  We actually were on the Triumph one year before it died in the Gulf.  That ship's best days had long since past and was a floating accident waiting to happen.  It was a cheap vacation, we quickly found out why.

As for their latest dead ship incident, there are far worse places to be stranded than St. Maarten.  It is a truly beautiful island with the south half of island is Dutch and the north is French.  Don't be surprised they make you pay to use the public toilets!

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