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    05/21/2013 - 18:16
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JPMorgan... Or Long-Term Capital Management?

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This, too, is why Jamie Dimon is richer than you:

Compare and contrst to the performance of LTCM just before it had to be bailed out, ushering in the modern era of of Too Big To Fail.

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Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:03 | 3332431 Cursive
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Greenspan should have let market forces operate in 1998, BernanQE will have no choice this time.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:06 | 3332444 EscapeKey
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No choice?

What makes you think that a man, whose ONLY trick appears to be easing liquidity in one way or another, will attempt to solve this in any other way this time around?

Bernanke will print till the cows come home, and then some.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:12 | 3332462 Cursive
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@EscapeKey

The Law of Diminishing Returns is harsh and unforgiving.  The marginal utility of BernanQE's printing is dropping each day.  It's a Sissyphian task that will end badly....

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:18 | 3332478 El Viejo
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LTCM goes under and over 50 hedge funds spring up to take their place. Lemmings squared.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:38 | 3332554 AlaricBalth
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"The year-to-date losses reported by the

CIO climbed from $719 million in March, to $2.1 billion in April, to $4 billion in May, to $4.4

billion in June, and then to $6.2 billion in December.566 Since JPMorgan Chase transferred

many SCP index positions to its Investment Bank on July 2, 2012, the total amount of losses

associated with the Synthetic Credit Portfolio will likely never be known."

From page 87 of the Senate Subcommittee Report

 http://www.hsgac.senate.gov/download/report-jpmorgan-chase-whale-trades-...

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:45 | 3332576 Quinvarius
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JPM already got bailed out for this.  Those "offsetting trades" Jamie expained as why they didn't take big losses on the quarter were JPM selling overpriced garbage to the Fed.  QE3 and QE4 were in part a response to the havoc that Jamie Dimon wreaked on the system in this trade.  ANd the havoc is not getting better.  It is festering.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:50 | 3332588 francis_sawyer
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On a LONG enough TIMELINE... CAPITAL MANAGEMENT drops to zero...

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:52 | 3332593 Big Slick
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... and JPM will KEEP GETTING BAILED OUT.... until the first trash can comes through your (and my) front window.  At that point, the 10 seconds to call 911 would be better spent loading double-ought.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:58 | 3332618 francis_sawyer
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just 'POINT & CLICK'...

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:44 | 3332770 gmrpeabody
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I am enjoying watching Jamie do the "roper doper"...

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:01 | 3332830 aint no fortuna...
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I'm betting JPM finishes up on the day at a new multi year high... just because

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:07 | 3332842 Troll Magnet
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When does Blankfein's Jewish bank get to buy up JP Morgan for pennies on the dollar?

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 14:07 | 3333048 Pure Evil
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Not gonna happen. JPM is the opposite face of the FED in the Janus sandwich. JPM is the commercial trash collecter/recycler for the FED. If Goldman Fags were to buy out JPM they could no longer be a rogue dealer. Try to remember, Goldman is akin to Madoff without the concern of being carted off to prison.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:57 | 3332610 MillionDollarBonus_
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Sometimes trading incurrs losses. That's the nature of the game. Companies like JP Morgan generate most of their profits from providing world class services to investment professionals and governments. Their trading desks are reserved for the brightest Ivy League graduates, and losses are more than compensated for by the stellar trading performance of other desks.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:59 | 3332623 AlaricBalth
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Thanks MBD. You owe me a keyboard. My coffee sprayed all over the place.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:02 | 3332637 nope-1004
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If he changed his name to BillionDollarBonus he might be believable.

 

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:50 | 3332793 Big Slick
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"world class investment services" include the website being unavailable for hours at a time due to hacking incidents

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-12/chasecom-hacked

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 14:09 | 3333053 Pure Evil
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Luckily the idiot is only being snarky, otherwise we'd have to go after him with torches and pitchforks.

Makes you wish for the good ole days of Vlad the Impaler.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 15:16 | 3333254 Tango in the Blight
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Or 100trillionZimbabweDollarBonus_

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:59 | 3332624 francis_sawyer
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Their 'MILLION DOLLAR BONUSES' are earned by their relentless capacity to shill...

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:17 | 3332669 ebworthen
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MDB - you are either a master of sarcasm or a day trading ad writer.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:29 | 3332725 Kayman
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Wry humor to gut-busting giggles.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:46 | 3332978 1000924014093
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Oh MDB, you never fail to provide the smiles.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:48 | 3332986 snakeboat
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Man, I have missed you!

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:51 | 3332589 Big Slick
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Zero Hedge!  ALL YOU NEED TO LOOK AT

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:31 | 3332729 ItsDanger
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No one focuses on what prices are being paid by the gov't for the assets from the banks.  The real joke behind the scenes!

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:14 | 3332859 Freddie
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Don't forget the JP Morgan Chase aka the Chase part = The Rockefellers agents for you know who in Amerika plus owners of big oil.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:58 | 3332821 beaker
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What's sad is when you think of all the areas on the planet that need real capital investment, these guys throw tens of billions of dollars at this synthetic, made-up, bullshit, hypothetical, derivative paper, instruments. 

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:08 | 3332653 EscapeKey
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Diminishing returns? How do you judge that?

If those numbers started shrinking, one could always modify the model.

Sort of like the investment banks calculate risk.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:50 | 3332792 knukles
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and Capital

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:16 | 3332864 Freddie
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Banks make money screweing taxpayers.   Banks are like Carnival Cruise lines.   You sign your life away & waive any rights, get on a rusting hulk of a ship, get lousy food that the pigs on the ship love, get plastic bags to shit in.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 14:11 | 3333062 Pure Evil
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Maybe Carnival is on to a new fad. Think how much water can be saved by taking a shit in plastic bags. Climate control with a twist.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:31 | 3332733 SmittyinLA
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are you sayign we should throw Barnanke's dead nakid body into the town square?   Or this that his wife's job? 

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:39 | 3332945 Stoploss
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He will have plenty of time to write with his syphilitic brain capacity.

 

Or, maybe not.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 14:17 | 3333073 Professorlocknload
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 An Exponential Bitch. Whether at 3% or 30%, just a matter of time. Sooner or later the Junkie hits the wall.

  Really, it's probably already happened, the facade is all that is left.

  "There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom..."   L von M.

 

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:34 | 3332547 SheepDog-One
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The fact is, none of this was a 'mistake' that people are now trying to figure out how to repair....it was a planned takedown from the beginning and now they're in the 'monetize the debt' phase, and that's always the last phase.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:10 | 3332656 lasvegaspersona
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The money supply (M0) will continue to increase. What may change is the reason given for the need to continue. Death by hyperinflation is the only way a fiat currency ever dies.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:53 | 3332804 Big Slick
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Correction: hyperinflation is the only way a fiat currency ever lives

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:46 | 3332445 Dr. Engali
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Too big to fail started earlier than 1998..The congress critters should have let market forces work back in 1979 when they bailed out Chrysler. Market forces are great until they become an inconvenience to TPTB.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:19 | 3332688 q99x2
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Not to mention the dead Kennedy's.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:36 | 3332933 Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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Jello Biafra for President! He hates Nancy Pelosi too...

With this kind of financial news DK is the only appropriate music (California Uber Alles, Holiday in Cambodia, etc). Maybe we can get Jello to update lyrics, like "Viva las HFTs".

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:42 | 3332765 James_Cole
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Too big to fail started earlier than 1998..The congress critters should have let market forces work back in 1979 when they bailed out Chrysler. Market forces are great until they become an inconvenience to TPTB.

TBTF started much earlier than 1979...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_Finance_Corporation

The RFC was bogged down in bureaucracy and failed to disburse much of its funds. It failed to reverse the growth of mass unemployment before 1933. Butkiewicz (1995) shows that the RFC initially succeeded in reducing bank failures, but the publication of the names of the recipients of loans beginning in August 1932 (at the demand of Congress) significantly reduced the effectiveness of its loans to banks because it appeared that political considerations had motivated certain loans. 

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 13:25 | 3332891 YHC-FTSE
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+1

& All one needs to know about LCTM is that its principle shareholders were NOBEL PRIZE WINNING ECONOMISTS, Myron Scholes and Robert Merton. 

If I were a statistician, I would posit a correlation between Nobel Prize Winners and Moronic con artists.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:09 | 3332452 Dr Paul Krugman
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Monetary policy has nothing to do with how poorly a bank performed - it concerns the overall economy; if it turns out that JP Morgan isn't managing themselves as we'll as thought, and if that affects the overall economy, then Bernanke will need to do more to help the recovery.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:12 | 3332463 dick cheneys ghost
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The best way for bernake to help the US economy would be to kill himself.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 11:40 | 3332565 LFMayor
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LOL Hari Kari with a letter opener?

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:31 | 3332735 Kayman
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Taking bids to be Bernanke's second.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:43 | 3332768 ParkAveFlasher
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True poetry would be Ben diving headfirst into a fully-powered-up printing press.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:50 | 3332788 Jack Napier
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Do more to help the recovery? What has he done to help at all? All he has done is print money which makes the spectre of deflation breathe that much harder down our necks. Inflating bubbles was the problem in the first place. Equilibrium will be had whether by consent or conquest, er, I mean, free market forces.

Fri, 03/15/2013 - 12:56 | 3332814 BigJim
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 True poetry would be Ben diving headfirst into a fully-powered-up printing press.

The resulting FRNs would truly be BernankeBux.

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