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Where 'Channel-Stuffed' German Cars Go To Die
With the collapse of Europe's auto market, and the channel-stuffing that is rife in every car manufacturer in the world, it is no surprise that at the end of their brief lease periods, European cars (Audi in this case) are being led to this 'graveyard' in Germany (70 miles north of Munich). This car park of chaos is full of nearly-new cars meant for destruction so as never to enter the car market as a cheap alternative and to maintain a high-priced spare parts market. It seems the Keynesian profligacy or digging a hole to fill it in has progressed in the 21st century to building a car and crushing that car as the engine of growth for our economies.
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In Soviet Russia, car park you.
Max Fischer would say that's just a Park-N-Ride.
Wo ist Trabant?
This is a perfect and precise example of the ULTIMATE & INCREDIBLE HYPOCRISY OF ENVIRONMENTALISTS for all the world to see.
The amount of environmental waste, byproducts and emissions, not to mention the usage of commodities and raw materials needed to produce a modern passenger vehicle are HUGE.
Yet there is absolute silence from environmentalists, the european so-called "green parties," and as far I'm aware of, nearly every other person or entity to wrap itself in the sanctimonious cloth of "protector of the environment."
These vehicles can be used for another decade, if not longer, yet they are crushed and scrapped at the end of short term leases, environmental consequences and adverse effects on human health be damned, without so much as a peep from team green.
TIS
so true it hurts right in the junk. I would argue that 90% of all media is controlled by the oligarchs so it's hard to get the message out BUT there is NO FUCKING message what so ever. Not to say that there has been no attempt
but for fuck sake DAVID SUSUKI http://www.davidsuzuki.org/
PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS
LOL
Max Fischer would say that's just a Park-N-Ride.
Max was one of the best, when shown evidence point blank, at denying reality exists. RIP MF.
ten thousand cars
even if they are nice cars, each is worth only 30,000 dollars
grand total less than a billion dollars
even detroit would have no use for an asset like that
unless maybe it is used as collateral to borrow 3 billion dollars for a new sewage treatment system.
and pensions
Ah, when will we learn that GREEN is just one more ideology dependent upon filthy lucre and part of the globalist brainwashing propaganda machine.
Do they leave the keys inside?
As long as the location of the factories that build these vehicles and the suppliers of the parts used in their assembly are NIMBY (or NITBY; not in their back yard) compliant, this shall meet the true environmentalist litmus test.
And in other news, in my best Jeremy Clarkson voice:
it's just a holding lot for a logistics company.
http://www.scherm.com/
destroying newly built cars is more complicated than mr durden makes it out to be:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120942873506551291.html
It looks like the car park for the food stamps queue...
What is first law of holes? If you are in one, STOP DIGGIN.
rule 2: Short people dig small holes
That's right. The number of cars there is about a weeks production from the factory in Ingolstadt alone. Most of these cars are brand new, as you can see from the white protection foil that is only used on new cars. This is just a normal distribution center for new cars that looked like this for years.
This is not 10,000 cars. I doubt it is 5,000. There are probably dozens of these lots for Chryslers and GMs all around America. Only O voters by Chryslers because they are shitboxes.
Also 70 miles north of Munich is Ingolstadt - aka the main Audi factory. I think the Tylers may be blowing this one out of proportion.
I counted them. It's about 30,000 cars, give or take.
Follow the money. When I hear who eats the buy-out value, then I may believe.
" I think the Tylers may be blowing this one out of proportion."
You're spot on Freddie: anyone (at least in Europe) who knows anything about Audi will know that Audi = Ingolstatt.
As soon as I saw the location on the Google map I knew that ZH got that one horribly wrong, yet it hasn't stopped you being junked and many people commenting (wrongly) on it.
Come on boys & girls, we can do better than that: if the wonderful entity that ZH is, has taught you anything over the last 4-5 years, then it's to "think for yourself" and not to accept anything at face value, and that includes threads/posts/ideas/arguments...on this website.
The Tylers will not always get everything right as they're only human; it's to be expected anyway and it doesn't take anything away from the continuous brilliance that they have shown over the years.
Thank you. As if there aren't people who would pay something for an Audi ..
Drove past Ingolstadt a few times going to Munich. It always seems bloody cold there. I would take a BMW over a Mercedes any day but I doubt this is what the Tylers think it is. The European economy is slowing rapidly especially France. The EUSSR needs to be blown up along with the Euro.
However, Audi, BMW, Merc and Porsche are not Chrysler/UAW/Obam/Fiat or GM/UAW/Obama. If Audi was really stuck - they could unloadf these carts in Asia and Russa.
$3 billion??? Those cars are worth a hell of a lot of money on the books of the right WS entity.....they could be quickly valued at upwards of $4billion, and then used to borrow sig. more than $3 billion - of course then that money could be leveraged on the prop desks, if they still existed of course....this is why Europe is in such a mess, they lack appropriate creativity and fundamental understanding of how the markets truly work.
Max is a gem in the echo chamber.
In Soviet USSA, this is picture of Gubbmint lease full of BMW, Hyundai, and Kia. Not a Volt in sight.
No. Fucking. Way.
This has got to be bullshit.
At least cash for clunkers we all knew what we were doing to perfectly good used cars- it was out in the open. Are you saying this is happening in a "clandestine" way? Sorry, brain overload. Gotta be more to this story than what's been reported.
If not, please refer to my original comment: No. Fucking. Way.
Suzuki is an embarrasment.
the environmentalists were bought by this powerful parties. they are allowed to adress issues as long as it doesn't endanger the money making capacities of the parties in power. in germany the car industry is one of the most powerful forces in the countries. if they say there won't be a speed limit, then there won't be a speed limit on the german highways.
Good reminder UP? What ever happened to that statist wanker?... 'Max Fisher'?
Mind you it must be so busy working for the EU Troika - no time to post?
I was going to count how many cars in that lot, but I will wait for CNBC to report the seasonally adjusted figures...
I have never cheated on my wife (seasonally adjusted).
I'm ballparking it at just about 20,000 cars after counting one row and multipling by the number of rows and length of rows... This infuriates me ... just the stinking electronic ignition key is $500 for one of these.. if the cars average $50,000 each USED and it easily can with S4's , A7's , Q7's , A8's R8's and such this lot contains $1Billion in rolling stock ... I'm driving a 2003 Mercedes and would LOVE to have a soon to be crushed R8/V10 and a Diesel Q7 for the wife ... I'll give Audi the same $400 the local crushers give for a junk car...
Without wages, executive salaries, R&D, and benefits calculated in, those cars are probably worth close to 5000 dollars at most, not including parts recycling. Plastic interiors, aluminum engines, and minimal amount of steel.
The rest is just Madison Ave. marketing to the ignorant masses.
If you go to the google maps site and actually zoom all the way in, there is a large percentage of those 'cars' (~25%[?]) that are actually empty spots in the parking lot.
Maybe someone else is better at photo analysis but that lot has a LOT of room to fill up before it is completely full.
Are you sure this is not just a swap meet?? LoFL
Neo-Keynesian Komrade Ka$h for Kirschen.
Governments are going to have to start going 'Hollywood' on people to hide this...
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https://www.google.com/search?q=world+war+2+hollywood+camoflauge&oe=utf-...
This is just your local Rodehouse Grill.
Fix It Again Troika
Crushed for clunkers. Insane in the membrane!
Oh, the inhumanity...
Just think how many poor Greeks & Cypriots would like to trade their skinny donkey in for a nice shiny Audi.
The Green party had a meeting last month with the representatives and lawyers from the Scherm corporation (yes, that's them in the picture above) who are looking for permission to build an additional parking lot for 3000 additional cars. Hassan....or maybe better yet...Heinrich chop!
http://gruene-karlskron.de/2013/02/19/runder-tisch-am-19-02-2003-zur-erw...
Max. 15K cars, not counting the empty lots. their web site
http://www.scherm.com/service/fahrzeughandel
Nothing will get crushed, simply redistribution!
They'd probably rather trade in their fat wifes.
How much hay per mile does an Audi get?
Can I take one, or three? No? Ah, I got it - they don't want potential demand removed from the system. Well, fuck you, buddy - wasn't planning on driving an AUDI anyway.
Anything to keep peasants as poor and reliant on government as possible.
Yes! Utopia on Earth? IN YOUR DREAMS - WELCOME TO HELL ON EARTH FROM EVERY POSSIBLY ANGLE.
-666
Audi;
Another Un-Drivable Import.
How much you wanna bet AUDI screwed many of these leasees by claiming "extraordinary wear" or failing to get the car in for a scheduled maintenance and hitting them for an extra $1000 or so in BS charges when it was time to turn them in...
Now we know why they chose AUDI for the opening of "SKYFALL" ,, AUDI didn't care .. they were going to be crushed anyway .. whats 20 like new A5's in all the same color (Black) mean to them... they're waiting to be crushed anyway.
I am SERIOUSLY PISSED ,, the only thing making this worthwhile is the ThaiLoveLinks advert on the page ...
Yes We Keynes!
Taankh yuou, Satan!
They're not selling cuz they got those little mercury filled curly bulbs for the dome lights...if you break one or one goes out, you have to call hazmat and a SWAT team out to your house or pay a fine...it says so in the owners manual...which will appear as residue in the hub caps of later models in the future.
Once the EUR hits 1.2 it's cheaper Mercedes & AUDI for everyone, bitchez.
SELL LIKE HOTCAKES!! GERMAN GDP +++ UP UP UP +++
Why not send the Audis to Easter Island so the EIslanders can commute among and between the Heads of State and not disturb the carrot and stick philosophy so prevalent in the R-O-W. Then they can get vertical on them large.
Germany's version of "Cash for Clunkers". Should work out well for them like here in the US where there has been a shortage of quality used cars in the used car market for 5 years now leading to inflated prices on everything from the cars themselves to spare parts. Even the junkyards are having a tough time getting inventory because people are keeping their old cars for a number of reasons, mainly the economy sucks and secondly everything is so expensive and the US consumer is tapping out.
Ferrari limits its production (about 4000?) to support demand and used prices.
Except even Ferrari builds more cars every year. Expand or die.
Look up production numbers on business jets worldwide since 2008 plus all the new business-jet developments that were since shelved or cancelled entirely - companies simply stopped buying.
So not surprised the kiddie cars got the same treatment. The same thing has happened to sportbike production. New models delayed for years and sales well-down everywhere.
RUKM.... R U kidding me? I would love to see video of new cars going into the crusher just to know for sure, it seems so crazy. But it would probably give Krugman an orgasim.
So thats how they get that new, NEW, REALLY NEW! car smell!!!
these are all fake 'blow up' cars like the fake tanks they used in WW2. this is just a ploy to make the germans look smart......before the invasion of poland.
Kunstler was right.
Someone count the cars.
It's not so much the number that matters - It's all about the velocity. The faster they destroy this shit and make new shit, the faster their economy will 'grow'. How could anything possibly go wrong?
From word on the street, a 24 month lease is about the lifespan of a new Audi before major repairs are required.
Possibly for new Audis, I don't know. I am driving an old 2004 quattro and it is a fabulous piece of engineering work - inside n out. I love that car. I bought it used, and so far it has not skipped a beat.
If what is described above is true, it is not only extraordinarily arrogant on behalf of peak everything resource-wise - it is also bloody effing herecy for people, who likes to drive a good quality car without being ripped off by new car garage exit premiums. Sheesh!
a doc my wife works with now does a 2 year A8 lease-he used to buy but said after 2 years they become $ pits. typical german overengineering.
I drive by a scrap yard regularily. Cars only and lots of them really are junk. They crush everything. The cars look mostly like vehicles that have been poorly maintained. The car isn't worth the repair cost so its worth $145/ton. Cash bussiness.
So how much does it cost a year to keep this racket running? How does Merkel fund it? From Cypriot depositors?
From Public Transportation revenue.
Anyone taking bets on whether or not Krugman is their economic adviser?
Every time an Audi screams, another Krugman gets his wings.
I had to log in just to upvote this. Well done, sir!
Future artificial reefs. It's good for the environment. Go green.
OK, I admit it, that's bullshit.
Since you've alluded how environmentally aware Germany is, I would like to see the landfill on the satellite map that will hold the waste from this mess.
I swear to God, Germany is a joke that keeps on giving.
Denmark makes Germany look like an amateur.
Maybe that's where they will bury it.
this destruction comes straight out of fdr's new deal play book.....and is exactly what the fed did to keep excess housing inventory off the market, which according to jim willie numbers roughly 10 million units....the banks are being paid to hide inventory and is one of the prime motives of qe - the other is to lend massive fx swaps to europe - 1.2t in jan 2013 - and the damned banks are still collapsing....yep, sure looks likes green shoots and crisis behind us to me...
green shoots, rough patch, vague convincing phrases courtesy the horseshit economy. Lies, damn lies and government statistics, Bernanke's 3 point plan for the economy.
Let's at least give Audi credit for sanity. At the time they signed off the leases, they probly thought there would be a post-lease market for the vehicles. They must be taking a painful loss on these vehicles.
Why bother to put that junk out on the lots. Run it straight from the assembly line into the compactors.
you're referring to the patented chevy model of production line.
It takes, roughly, 70GJ net of energy to make an average new car. How much of that energy is sourced from non-renewable fuels? Most of it, I imagine. And then there's the raw materials, no less than a few tons per vehicle. This is waste on a scale even bastards like Keynes simply could not have imagined. All just to prop up a dinosaurian car market and encourage even more waste, to the tune of 900 to 1000 GJ consumed in the average vehicle's lifetime of service.
Unsustainable, and completely insane.
Of course it's unsustainable. I doubt that they planned for this to happen.
Totentänzerlied " Unsustainable, and completely insane. "
A reminder:
On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
Dachau for Audis!
Chinese leaders, are you reading this?
This is why the Germans are superior.
Watch and learn.
You Chinese guys could boost your GDP much more if you demolished all those ghost cities and rebuild.
Oh, wait, but this also works with Japan, the U.S., and ...
Hmm...
Problemfield
I bet KRUGMAN drives a fucking Audi.
Bet he paid over sticker, too; the dumbass...
i think that lot is penetrable. Anybody got a car trailer and a transport?
They burn Corn don't they? Marathon building and destroy all but the winner. Keep dancing, chicken dinner, winner, winner.
This is a storage facility for new and returned leasing cars from Audi, since they have not enough capacities at the manufacturing plants in the city of Ingolstadt, which is about 5 miles north. Scherm, a logistics operation owns the place. They are the schipping contractor for Audi. The cars are shipped to the dealers from there, they are not scheduled for destruction.
http://www.donaukurier.de/nachrichten/wirtschaft/lokalewirtschaft/wochen...
Exactly - this article is total and utter bullescheiße (and consequently so are most of the comments below it).
No cars get destroyed there (as should be obvious from the neatly parked vehicles and the absence of a crusher) - the Scherm company cleans and stores ex-lease and ex-rental cars there, as well as Audi's own used company vehicles, for distribution to their dealers of used Audis.
It is BS. 70 miles north of Munich is Ingolstadt aka the main Audi factory. The number of cars there is a lot but not 20,000. They will not be crushed and will not sit there and rust like real dumpos around Obummer's Amerika with tons of these lots for Chrysler and GM shit boxes.
Let not the facts assuage our anger!
+1
Glad someone else here knows that Ingolstadt is 70 miles north of Munich and the details. I like the Tyler's but this is just a shipping lot.
I am pretty sure you can see the main Audi factory in Ingolstadt from the autobahn which I think is the Munich/Salzburg autobahn.
I am sure business is down but Audi and the other German car companies are not O/Chrysler/Fiat/UAW in which the only "buyers" are EBT card holders with Obama phones. GM/UAW/O is only marginally better. When you think Chrysler and GM - think Detroit as in the dyning city from hell.
Please go to that location (keep aware of security guards) and see yourself. There are shitloads of returned cars and they ARE rotting. This article in donaukurier is just what Audi _said_.
So this is basically the German version of China's ghost cities - Ghost Cars.
Gee wiz. With Audi intending to pound the hell out of Chinese local manufactured cars....
http://tinyurl.com/ctcx26a
... the Chinese are about to get price-pounded by Euro Yankee Dog Capitalists. Ya gotta love the free market.
Why don't they ship them to the US. When the Banks actually have to do something about non-mortgage-paying US residents,,, the newly bankrupt can live the American dream in an Audi.
There is NO Audi Holocaust! They are being.. 're-purposed'. And only 60,000 not 6,000,000. It's all FIAT propaganda, because we build them on sound principles, not fiat methods.
ADL(Audi Defamation League)#s?
I can tell you that mechanics often get these expensive models cheap when they inform the owner how much the parts/labor will cost.
But the cars are all very, very organized.
...and we wonder why our environment is polluted?
Forget about the economy, we are doomed.
So this is the car version of Soylent Green?
For those who know Thailand, that could just be the Bang Na Trat tollway about 4PM, though there aren't anywhere near enough lanes in the photo.
Years ago I watched three times in one week where public busses, driven by a man who was attempting to make an 8th or 9th lane, rolled his vehicle and its passengers into a storm ditch. Not surprisingly for Thailand, the bus driver flees the scene, and the passengers scramble out the windows on the un-submerged side, shake off the water, and say, "Is that another Number 8 bus coming?"
Lol, atleast sell the cars for spare parts.
or
Just give them away.
This is like someone discovering a hoard of 100 year old stamps, and instead of auctioning them off, destroying all but one of them and putting it up for auction.
Sure it makes that one guy rich.
But it makes the whole of society poorer in terms of real wealth.
That being said, let them do whatever the fuck they want with their cars... its their property, if they are stupid enough to just scrap brand-new cars for no reason, thats their fucking retarded choice.....
I smell the German taxpayer somehow footing the bill for this scam.
It gets serious when they start crushing the factories.
Coming soon, children. Very soon.
In Japan they just mothball them.
What is the second law of holes?? When filling a hole, always start at the bottom.
Lucas? Lucas electrics in British cars?
American mechanics call him Prince of Darkness
Lucas? Lucas electrics in British cars?
American mechanics call him Prince of Darkness
Lucas disappeared years ago into the US Varity Corporation
Some 20 year old Alpinas are still running Lucas injectors.
Lucas injectors were okay. The electrics were rubbish. I once had a German Ford. it had a Lucas starter and alternator. Once I changed them to Bosch starter and alternator - I never had another problem. Stupid English unions.
Q: Why do the British drink warm beer?
A: They all have Lucas refrigerators
I thought people only leased Audi Q7s until they needed new tyres which are around $500 each so they trade in for a new lease
You can buy a new M3 for 71K. What is that now, $399 a month?
Airport parking...
It's been obvious for some time that only the sucker Japanese build cars to last.
China likes their scrapped autos in bite sized chunks fresh out of the grinder.
Time to start building tanks.
China is laughing at Germany. Cars? Ha! We stuff channels with entire cities!
Dachaudi
Any prove this actually is a "car park of chaos [] full of nearly-new cars meant for destruction so as never to enter the car market as a cheap alternative and to maintain a high-priced spare parts market."?