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The Next BloomBan: New York Mayor Seeks To Ban Cigarette Displays In Retail Stores
Still smarting from his humiliating defeat in court (pending appeal) to ban "large sugary drinks" (because just like in Cyprus nobody can possibly conceive of opening ten €100K accounts instead of one for €1 million, and nobody will buy two 16 oz drinks instead of one 32 oz), Mayor Bloomberg has set his sights on his next nanny state crusade: a proposal banning retail stores from displaying cigarettes as part of his effort to reduce smoking rates in the city. From Reuters: "Bloomberg, who has taken aggressive steps to curb smoking in public places and promote health with various restrictions on restaurants, plans to introduce to the City Council on Wednesday two bills that would require retailers to keep cigarettes in a drawer or other concealed location. "Young people are targets of marketing and the availability of cigarettes, and this legislation will help prevent another generation from the ill health and shorter life expectancy that comes with smoking."
It appears that in the billionaire mayor's head, it is the "prominent" display of cigarettes in retail stores that make young people start smoking. Perhaps if Mayor Mike is so concerned about young impressionable people inhaling carcinogens, he will finally enact prohibition to (ab)use EBT cards for cigarette purchases, not to mention paying for booze and lap dances with food stamps. But then again, those are potential votes, and nobody wants to lose a key block of one's electorate.
More from Reuters:
Stores would still be allowed to advertise and display pricing information for the tobacco products they sell, but the actual products would have to be hidden from public view except during a sale or during restocking.
The legislation would also increase the penalties on stores that illegally resell cigarettes smuggled in from states with lower tobacco taxes and would prohibit retailers from redeeming discount coupons on tobacco sales.
Bloomberg expects to have the council's support, although a vote was not expected immediately, a spokeswoman for the mayor said.
New York City already bans smoking in most offices, restaurants, bars, parks and beaches. Bloomberg has also taken steps to curtail the use of trans fats and salt in the city's restaurants. Last week a court struck down his attempt to limit the size of sugary drinks.
There will be, of course, exemptions:
Tobacco specialty stores, already banned from admitting customers
under the age of 18, would be exempt from the requirement on the display
of cigarettes.
And while this particular Bloomberg idea may not appear too confiscatory on the surface, one by one, more individual liberties are being subsumed by the great Orwellian monster, all in the name of the "greater good."
How long before all US deposits are involuntarily handed over, read confiscated, to a greater, and wiser, power? After all who knows better how to allocate saved capital and personal wealth than the Great American State?
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Bloomberg you rotten cocksucker! Why don't you just wipe your ass with Manhattan and be done with it, you fucking, commie control freak prick?
Dick bans nic stick
They need to ban Doucheberg. If he gets another term, by hook or crook, then the city really needs to be walled in and the lights turned off...
Let's put out the word that he's about to ban gay bars and rap music.
That would be a fun kerfuffle.
Sodas and ciggies... who gives a shit about the Sandy victims, the Homeless, starving and fucking theive bankers.
Soda and ciggies
The Bloomberg Legacy.
Drank from small glasses while the city crumbled.
First they came for the 16 oz. sodas, and I did not speak up because I don't do high fructose corn syrup...
The 60’s hippies have given smugglin’ smoke a whole new meaning.
BTW, it’s >$12.00/ pack for some brands in Obama’s homey City in Crook County, Illinois..
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/10/18/more-taxes-in-cigarettes-bullets-and-gambling-in-county-budget/
If Michael "Napoleon" Bloomberg develops dementia, one of the first signs will be his announcement to a gaggle of hastily summoned reporters that he is enacting prohibition on alcoholic beverages.
instead of cigarettes, please to display an assortment of parsnips, carrots, and turnip greens in retails stores.
and maybe a slgn with some sort of slogan. if only I could think of one
http://10por15.net/Swf/Test/Scripts/world-war-1-propaganda-slogans-i11.jpg
no, not that
http://poderresponsabilidad.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/hayden-panettier...
old school soda propaganda
http://www.retroplanet.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Coke-Slogan-Art.jpg
doctors agree: eat your vegetables!
http://www.crestock.com/uploads/blog/2009/controversial/21-Camels-smoke-...
I had a dog kinda like that too, used to hump all the girls legs.
who are the fools electing this little hitler?
No choosing gun ownership for self defense, no choosing big corn syrup drinks for refreshment, no choosing to shop at stores with cigarette ads, but New Yorkers can still choose to kill their unborn babies!
Congratulations, indeed.
Fuck you for bringing abortion politics into this. I hate Bloomberg's nanny state as much as you but I am sick to death of self-righteous douchebags who can never get pregnant telling everyone else what to do as well because of your beliefs. Piss off.
I understand that having someone point out obvious hypocricy and contradiction can be very upsetting for those who act in such a fashion.
I didn't bring abortion into politics, the politicians do that every election.
I have three kids.
I neither told anyobody what to do, nor stated any beliefs.
Do you have anything intelligent or worthwhile to share?
I think they were more interested in being a case in point for your previous comment.
Knucks, 100% of your brand-new 2013 tax hike went to the Sandy 'victims'. Don't loose any sleep over them.
This guy is making Rham Immanuel look good.
How about a ban on Bloomberg terminals in order to combat excessive energy consumption?
Or a ban on lifts in shoes. Apparently favored by some short men of a certain age, they may cause the ego to grow disproportionally until the subject imagines he is Emperor.
That is just sooooo beautiful
"...require retailers to keep cigarettes in a drawer or other concealed location...the actual products would have to be hidden from public view except during a sale or during restocking."
Reminds me of the cancerous, toxic assets on the TBTF banks balance sheets. Put them in a drawer and hope nobody sees them.
reminds me of islam ... we must keep our women bundled up because if our men were to see a naked thigh they would not be able to stop themselves from committing rape.
Coming: "Concealed Carry" permits for smokes!
End the 'War on Drugs', but have certain substances that can not be advertised... like heroin, say, or cigarettes, and my favorite ALL THAT BIG PHARMA HOCUM (easy to spot, look for pretty girl and the puppy along side a list of obscure symptoms).
can't forget the transfats.
they'll rob you blind everytime, don't ya know.
I watched my mother die in 1979 from small/oat cell lung cancer that was caused by smoking. It was horrible... particularly after they had to amputate her hand because an intern who didn't know what he was doing missed the vein so the chemo pooled and destroyed the hand. I'm with bloomie on this one. Cigarettes kill and the people who make them are finding newer and more afficient ways to hook people - including putting in chemicals that hit receptors in the back of the nose and throat (they learned that from the coke dealers) so you get an instantaneous hit. We ALL pay higher medical insurance bills because of this killer. Watch a loved one die from this fucking shit that's pushed by scumbags who are even worse than the banksters and then tell me about free rights and all that fucking crap. Watch your kid smoke for a month, get hooked at 14 and know he stands a great chance of dying young and horribly. Have at it, I'm sure this is worth 100 thumbs down. R.I.P Ma.
I agree completely about cigarettes, one of the nastiest and most addictive products ever conceived by Satan, but this is not a Mayor's issue. Go after it at the state level.
Here's a thought. Make cigarette smoking a felony for anyone 10 years old or younger, and raise the limit 1 year, every year.
Smoking will soon be seen as a filthy, disgusting, old person's addiction, which it is, and it will die out quickly.
it's a good idea but K Street as usual trumps it. Fuck it, nothing will stop it, I just wanted to rant anyway - I'm sick of watching this melt-up on what is basically the end of the rule of law and the capital markets acting as price discovery mechanisms. I've heard from a couple of teenagers that they tried cigarettes for just afew weeks and were hooked beyond belief. The lab guys are creating new delivery mechanisms (those "crack" receptors) that are malicious beyond belief.
Kaiserhoff: Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?
Hate on cigs and those who make 'em/smoke 'em all you want, but get off our collective dicks, asshole.
Dude, kill yourself anyway you choose, but I don't think teenagers should be getting addicted to anything.
Should people die of horrible cancers forever? No one can defend cigarettes as a "product," but without some sort of rational phase out, it will go on, and on, and on, and far less harmful and addictive drugs will be demonized.
A brain is a good thing to have.
I went out of my way to steer my son away from smoking and he doesn't.
When around other young smokers, if it came up, I suggested they quit.
But it's none of yours nor Bloomdeuche's business to TELL everybody how to live.
Fuck-O-mighty FACTORY FOOD is killing people early in droves.
Why you gotta lord it over everyone everywhere?
So with that logic it makes more sense to shut down the manufacturer. So pull the weed & leave the root?
Sorry yer Ma's choice had the ripple effect.
I'm a smoker and hell I'm gonna die from something so the cost shit is zero sum. At least I'm not gonna die from some freakin McRib or other shit they call food these days, talk about addictive with strange chemical ingredients to provide any flavor. Also I'm tired of the costs of sick FAT people who can't even barely fucking walk. Get off this tobacco bullshit it's just another distraction. When I grew up over 50% of the population smoked, everywhere. The way some talk about second smoke LOL half the fucking population should be dead by now. Ever sit next to a real fat person, they smell worse then cigarette smoke every could. Can you tell I'm really sick of this smoking shit making us criminals now that we are a minority. Everyone in my family has been a smoker and no one has died related. Dad will be 89 this year and still smokes a pack a day. He has trouble pissing but that's something else.
Agree, but I've quit the cigs as I hate paying those fucking taxes.
60 days today!
Awesome and many congrats. I celebrated 6 years last month. You've made it through the most grueling stretch in my opinion.
Hope you're right!
quit smoking year ago now i drink, fuck....
There are more carcinogens in one charcoal grilled hamburger than in an entire carton of Marlboro cigarettes.
I'm sorry to hear about your mother. My grandad died from lung cancer. One of the few memories I have of him is visiting him in hospice, which sucks. He was a good man. Sorry if this seems harsh, but it wasn't the government's job to save him or your mother from themselves.
~C. S. Lewis
I have never heard that quote and it is fantastic. Where/when was that said?
It is from his writings in God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics.
I haven't read it, but I'll be looking for it after I finish Orthodoxy. Highly recommended.
Thanks...on my reading list now
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/editorials/vol-1/e1-4.htm
Negative vote?!? What a cocksucker. You know that this is NOT the only article that talks about it? You realize that the aerial nuke experiments was the reason for lung cancer, but the govt would not come clean and needed a scapegoat. Maybe you should do some research before blindly sucking down the hook, line amd sinker of propaganda...
Surely 2100 nuclear detonations in under 70 years can't hurt anyone, that would go against the grain of official propaganda!
More laws, more laws...long CXW!
My mother also died from small cell lung cancer. She smoked for about 2 years in her late teens. But, she worked in offices that were always full of smokers smoking.
But, smoking is not illegal. Smoking does not kill everyone who smokes or everyone who is in contact wiht second hand smoke which is becoming more and more rare. Why should those who smoke be treated like second class citizens. Are you ready to go after cigar and pipe smokers as well? Those may be even bigar health risks. The idea is that those racks make kids take up smokijng is ludicrous.
Bloomberg is a little tyrant:
Trans fats
Salt
Guns
Stop and Frisk
Soda over 16oz
Now hiding Cigarettes
He hasn't put booze behind a curtain has he? No because he would be banned by all of the 'elites' that couldn't have there wine, martini or cosmo every night that makes them feel so sophisticated. New York, you guys deserve him...
You're right.
Let's ban automobiles because careless drivers get into accidents and make us pay higher medical insurance bills.
Here's a BETTER idea... mind your fucking business and eliminate health care mandates.
You watched your kid start smoking at 14 yrs old and did nothing about it? Enough said indeed ....
Never go full retard.
You know, I've always attributed the insane machinations of the political elite to evil and cunning. Now I'm really starting to wonder if they aren't just a bunch of 65-IQ inbred retards who need to be placed in a small room with nice, comfy walls.
Edit: I'd like to apologize to mentally retarded people everywhere for making that connection.
See generally, Hanlon's Razor: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
Hey, this is already a reality in Finland.
Finland is one step from being the next DDR, socialist utopia where not so benevolent state knows your best.
I asked Tyler to take a look at this country, it seems to be a role model.
In America you are complaining of state power. Well, America is still a land of free, compated to socialist experiment in Finland.
Bloomberg will mandate and enforce a gun-free and smoke-free zone while he gets to enjoy a large well-armed security team and cheap cigs. Cocksucker is being way too nice.
Dow is positive for the day. Where are all the chicken littles from this weekend now? LULZ
Bloomberg knows not to bite the hand that feeds him. He still doesn't realize how easily he can be replaced however. Odd for a New Yorker really.
That didn't take long.
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=218871
Hot Karl!
Lol. He has a grating personality, to me at least. Despite my disagreement with some of his opinions he produces quite a few gems.
"Oh my god, he called all of us on our bullshit. I'll give him a red arrow; that'll show him" /zerohedge fags
"Where are all the chicken littles from this weekend now?"
Probably enjoying their 20%+ up day in VIX, in spite of the up day in stocks.
http://www.google.com/finance?q=INDEXCBOE%3AVIX&ei=SmVHUbCHIoKK0QH43gE
But all "investors" in the markest who aren't fully aware that they are gambling in a casino (and a casino with really shitty odds at that) are sub-morons anyways.
Need to go Snake Plissken on his ass....get him off the island.
I'm packin my shit & movin to New York , the bastion of common sense & freedom. See y'all there.
great. I'll sell you my apartment.
When preparing for the eventual collapse, don't forget to include a shitload of rope for all these statist fuckers.
And stash those barter items...http://www.victoryseeds.com/tobacco.html
Get 'em off the island, fuck no, put 'em all on the island.
They can settle their differences in the newly redecorated men's room at the UN.
Bloomberg is actually doing us a favor. We will be able to see the failures of NYC without it having been implemented across the country.
Unfortunately, we did not have the same chance with Obamacare.
Hey, I'm sure thing will improve when Anthony Weiner is mayor. [/s]
He suffers from small man syndrome.
Small cock, unable to please women, so they do the only thing they can which is try to assume some kind of power and never relinquish it.
I have a nine month old cat that shits bigger turds than the bloomer.
Forget this Cyprus thingy, what's next? Doritos could be in trouble. When people lose trust in Benzoic Acid, can a run on 7-11 stores be far behind !!?
Calculated loss, like Chuck Hagel.
New York has very high taxes too. You may wish to consider moving elsewhere... Sure, NYC is a nice place to visit, but do you want so much of your money (and liberty) taken away from you by living there?
As a past commuter, I'd suggest it's a fucking wonderful place to visit on the company's credit card. :)
Fuck living in any shitty city run by crooks and assholes. Kwame of d town is the perfect model.
Bloomberg is a control freaking cunt. HE should be sec of state or something else useless. Not sure if him or his wife wears the dress and high heels in the family.
Try his boyfriend...
The whole freedom and dignity debate is far from solved, however, ceeding control to the state is unacceptable.
So when is he going to go after farting?
Politicians will never ban their own speech.
As soon as Fonz crop dusts his face with musical fruit fallout.
"It's the thought that counts." - Stalin
<And you are forbidden to think for yourself because Stalin knows best.>
Oh man, that's just wrong evil
Hey kids, running cigarettes from South Carolina to New York City is about to become very profitable again, might even cover that tuition.
Ha ha. Bloomberg would deserve just that.
Good luck dancing with the "shoot first, don't even ask" Black Dragon buzzcuts out on the Turnpike. They are very nice people, and not at all overloaded with wadcutters, steroids, and a favorably corrupt judiciary.
+100 if I could.
Tip for all you young entre-preenoors: I-81, 65 mph and take back roads when in the Garden State.
Please, no opportunities are without risk (unless you are the trading arm of a TBTF bank of course). Grow up.
That's fine, as long as they don't make another fucking "Smokey and the Bandit" movie about it.
Its always funny to see the influx of cars from SC in the city on a Friday night. I always figured it was for some other vice.
Just remember to factor in the possible maiming delivered by your competition.
Yep. People won't stop. The poor will buy them in back alleys.
Yet Mr. Bloomberg feels that the Government has no right to regulate the financial markets.
'course not... he started his career as a T-bill trader with Salomon Brothers.
That is in fact the problem. The governments aren't regulating the markets.....they are manipulating them.
NYC residents, run - don't walk.
Only the ones who didn't vote for him, the others can suck a bag of dicks and take their medicine. Don't want that infection spreading...
God Bless the South
Not the same Johnny Reb from Da Bear's board?
"Bloomban" Love it!
This short little dick has a Napoleon complex; he's power mad!
Or he's just a liberal politician....
People who smoke cigarettes die. People who manipulate interest rates get the privledge of rollin' tanks on the streets. And living for forever in a tower at the university of chicago.
What's next Mr. Mayor...banning hot dog cart vendors? Bubble gum and candy? Beer and booze(god forbid)? Maybe a silliness ban...which prevents you and spares us from having to listen to anything that drops out of you mouth again...
Mike, look to the west at that big statue across the harbor and find someone to remind you what she stands there for.
I am going to update the Wikipedia page for "Little Man Syndrome" with a new picture.
pods
FUCK YOU BLOOMBERG. Jesus, what a fucking idiot.
Couple of Bloomberg lovers out there eh? The guy is a sick fuck running his little gulag formerly known as NYC. There must be a light pole with his name on it somewhere.
Jew York City
Buy as many packs as you want, at ten bucks a pack, but don't smoke them anywhere.
How about banning "Stop and Frisk?" 1800 citizens are stopped and searched everyday - about 7 million in the last 10 years or so.
New York is the most fascist city on earth - a dirty, little secret ignored by everyone. Every policeman in New York has a quota for that (UF 250).
Stop "Stop and Frisk" now - it is demeaning, it is unconstitutional and it is fascist.
Sorry, but you don't get a vote on that.
Now... bend OVAH!
Surprised there isn't a city-wide bed time yet.
This guy is so good , he should run for mayor AGAIN !!!
I would imagine Christine Quinn will have something to say about that, now that she wants to run.
Last time, not so much, but this time it may be an issue.
LOL! That's the same path of logic my dog uses: "If I turn my head away, I'm invisible to you!"
How long before all US deposits are involuntarily handed over, read confiscated, to a greater, and wiser, power?....
silly tyler, you know that our benevolent government will do the right thing by swapping dangerous, risky equity retirement accounts with safe, reliable treasuries.............
ITS FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.............................
Yeah, it'll all get invested in that junk really, really bad undisclosable shit on the Fed's balance sheet "Other Assets"
It's been done in Canada... and guess what, it does nothing. The only thing it does... it makes it a pain in the ass for people selling cigarettes since they have to remember where every brand is...
It's been done in Australia and guess what.......it's working. Fewer and fewer young people are smoking. They have also tightened the requirements for young people getting licences and guess what,,,fewer are dying. They have also introduced zero alcohol levels for new drivers and guess what........
I agree that freedom is a great thing but unless the cost of throat cancer, car accidents and the like fall on the person who exercises his freedom stupidly, then this posturing over freedoms without self responsibility is meaningless.
And this self responsibility... how exactly does that develop within a nanny-state?
Like any politico, you can claim action A led to result B, but you'll never be able to prove it. More likely, that ole self responsibility (a.k.a. education) led the individual to the result that the state then takes claim for.
Besides, many people intentionally avoid complying with over-bearing laws by openly ignoring them.
Myself, I always speed up after I get through any speed trap.
As I wrote, do anything you like as long as YOU and not I am called upon to pay for the consequences.
And since we (Americans) are all now required to buy a minimum level of health insurance coverage there is literally not a single action any one person can take that doesn't affect everyone else monetarily. "Do anything you like..." actually means, "do what the fuck I say, when I say, how I say."
Let me know how that ban on firearms works as well when your front door gets kicked in during the middle of the night and you get to defend yourself and your family with your new found sense of self responsibility....
Hmm, how about not subsidizing tobacco growing in the US, or perhaps adding a large VAT on tobacco imports?
So will Bloomy ban those old movies where Betty Davis takes a provocative drag on her ciggie and looks oh so cool? Don't forget to ban pizza and hotdog carts (too much fat). It's really about squeezing more money from the plebs, as I don't think Bloomy wants any of you to live a minute longer than your unworthy social strata dictates.
Why do all the rich fucks seek god-like powers? Not enough to be rich and powerful they also want to be famous. Even if you do prove yourself a moron like Trump.
So who's the next billionaire clown inline for the mayor position?
"Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac." -- H. Kissinger
I thought Kissinger said snuff films and orphan boys were the ultimate thrill like all the other owl worshipers?
pods
What is this douchebag's problem? I don't get it. Nobody lives forever anyway so what is the fucking point of all this if it ISN't about CONTROL?
The reality is that if cigarettes were being introduced today, it would be highly unlikely that they would be approved for public consumption.
Instead we are consumed by this idea of freedom to eat, smoke and drink ourselves into oblivion, while we fail to see that our real and valued freedoms of privacy, real money, real political choice and adherence to the constitution are being strangled on the vine.
Of course. And there must be a reason noone is using pot, shit, heroine, cocaine and so on ...
Sugar is addictive, caffeine also. It's nice to know side-effects on some consumptious goods, but it don't need someone telling me how much - if any - I'm allowed to 'use'.
And yet if the doctor told you that you had cancer I wonder if your attitude would be the same.
My drugs are caffeine and chocolate, plus some vapour without carcinogenic ingredients. I also don't drink but I do commute with my bicycle - through the filthy air produced by motorized vehicles here in town.
So, if a doctor is somehow trying to tell me that I'm going to die because of a habit my answer will be 'You'll die, too, sooner or later - and I don't care about a possible reason then, because you can't eliminate all risks - you'll die by starvation or hypoxia if you'd seriously try, you shouldn't go into the sunlight nor should you live within walls. You shouldn't use soap nor water. I'll cut here now.
Yea? Tell that shit to pharma & the FDA.
To hell with the notion that someone needs to "approve" of anything for "public consumption."
What the fuck is wrong with this guy?
Yes
People of the tribe like to control everything.
There's much bigger problems like people on wall st. stealing, but they'll look the other way on that.
"The people on Wall Street stealing "
The Jews
Killer,
He's a Jew
Bloomberg's and Obama's bloodlines must have crossed at some point in history....
TOTALLY_OUT_OF_CONTROL_GOVERNMENT
how can the kids be targeted by marketing when 80% of the students under his purview can't read? and what if the kids need the cigs to burn the bedbugs off at night?
Keep muppets alive longer, so we can get MOAR from them....
Ding Ding! Killing the host is bad for business!
Stores need drawers. Go long cabinet makers, quick. I can sell my timber if you do.
Replace those cig displays with illustrated instructions on how to shoot up, put on a condom and an oral dam .... and how to stab someone in the stirnum to puncture their heart .... avoiding the rib cage !
He needs people to live longer so he can tax the living shit out of ya.
I used to work for little pricks with the Napoleon complex in corporate. Worst SOB's evah.
Can't fix SHORT.
can't fix stupid either
He's a RINO distraction for the media .... so we don't notice the really crazy stuff Feinstein wants to do !