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The Next BloomBan: New York Mayor Seeks To Ban Cigarette Displays In Retail Stores

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Still smarting from his humiliating defeat in court (pending appeal) to ban "large sugary drinks" (because just like in Cyprus nobody can possibly conceive of opening ten €100K accounts instead of one for €1 million, and nobody will buy two 16 oz drinks instead of one 32 oz), Mayor Bloomberg has set his sights on his next nanny state crusade: a proposal banning retail stores from displaying cigarettes as part of his effort to reduce smoking rates in the city. From Reuters: "Bloomberg, who has taken aggressive steps to curb smoking in public places and promote health with various restrictions on restaurants, plans to introduce to the City Council on Wednesday two bills that would require retailers to keep cigarettes in a drawer or other concealed location. "Young people are targets of marketing and the availability of cigarettes, and this legislation will help prevent another generation from the ill health and shorter life expectancy that comes with smoking."

It appears that in the billionaire mayor's head, it is the "prominent" display of cigarettes in retail stores that make young people start smoking. Perhaps if Mayor Mike is so concerned about young impressionable people inhaling carcinogens, he will finally enact prohibition to (ab)use EBT cards for cigarette purchases, not to mention paying for booze and lap dances with food stamps. But then again, those are potential votes, and nobody wants to lose a key block of one's electorate.

More from Reuters:

Stores would still be allowed to advertise and display pricing information for the tobacco products they sell, but the actual products would have to be hidden from public view except during a sale or during restocking.

 

The legislation would also increase the penalties on stores that illegally resell cigarettes smuggled in from states with lower tobacco taxes and would prohibit retailers from redeeming discount coupons on tobacco sales.

 

Bloomberg expects to have the council's support, although a vote was not expected immediately, a spokeswoman for the mayor said.

 

New York City already bans smoking in most offices, restaurants, bars, parks and beaches. Bloomberg has also taken steps to curtail the use of trans fats and salt in the city's restaurants. Last week a court struck down his attempt to limit the size of sugary drinks.

There will be, of course, exemptions:

Tobacco specialty stores, already banned from admitting customers
under the age of 18, would be exempt from the requirement on the display
of cigarettes.

And while this particular Bloomberg idea may not appear too confiscatory on the surface, one by one, more individual liberties are being subsumed by the great Orwellian monster, all in the name of the "greater good."

How long before all US deposits are involuntarily handed over, read confiscated, to a greater, and wiser, power? After all who knows better how to allocate saved capital and personal wealth than the Great American State?

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Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:15 | 3343457 A. Magnus
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Bloomberg you rotten cocksucker! Why don't you just wipe your ass with Manhattan and be done with it, you fucking, commie control freak prick?

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:18 | 3343472 SHEEPFUKKER
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Dick bans nic stick

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:23 | 3343500 krispkritter
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They need to ban Doucheberg.  If he gets another term, by hook or crook, then the city really needs to be walled in and the lights turned off...

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:27 | 3343515 kaiserhoff
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Let's put out the word that he's about to ban gay bars and rap music.

That would be a fun kerfuffle.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:30 | 3343546 knukles
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Sodas and ciggies... who gives a shit about the Sandy victims, the Homeless, starving and fucking theive bankers.
Soda and ciggies

The Bloomberg Legacy.

Drank from small glasses while the city crumbled.

 

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:35 | 3343580 icanhasbailout
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First they came for the 16 oz. sodas, and I did not speak up because I don't do high fructose corn syrup...

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:39 | 3343602 Manthong
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The 60’s hippies have given smugglin’ smoke a whole new meaning.

BTW, it’s >$12.00/ pack for some brands in Obama’s homey City in Crook County, Illinois..

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/10/18/more-taxes-in-cigarettes-bullets-and-gambling-in-county-budget/

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:43 | 3343628 TruthInSunshine
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If Michael "Napoleon" Bloomberg develops dementia, one of the first signs will be his announcement to a gaggle of hastily summoned reporters that he is enacting prohibition on alcoholic beverages.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:56 | 3343713 SafelyGraze
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instead of cigarettes, please to display an assortment of parsnips, carrots, and turnip greens in retails stores. 

and maybe a slgn with some sort of slogan. if only I could think of one

http://10por15.net/Swf/Test/Scripts/world-war-1-propaganda-slogans-i11.jpg

no, not that

http://poderresponsabilidad.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/hayden-panettier...

 

 

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:01 | 3343744 knukles
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I had a dog kinda like that too, used to hump all the girls legs.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:14 | 3343825 fourchan
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who are the fools electing this little hitler?

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:29 | 3343970 hedgeless_horseman
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No choosing gun ownership for self defense, no choosing big corn syrup drinks for refreshment, no choosing to shop at stores with cigarette ads, but New Yorkers can still choose to kill their unborn babies!

November 6th saw a number of important pro-choice victories across New York State. Congratulations to the pro-choice candidates who proved that standing up for a woman's right to make her own decisions about her reproductive health is a winning position!

 

http://www.prochoiceny.org/

 

Congratulations, indeed.  

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:38 | 3344580 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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Fuck you for bringing abortion politics into this.  I hate Bloomberg's nanny state as much as you but I am sick to death of self-righteous douchebags who can never get pregnant telling everyone else what to do as well because of your beliefs.  Piss off.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 18:01 | 3344597 hedgeless_horseman
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I understand that having someone point out obvious hypocricy and contradiction can be very upsetting for those who act in such a fashion.

I didn't bring abortion into politics, the politicians do that every election.

I have three kids.

I neither told anyobody what to do, nor stated any beliefs.

Do you have anything intelligent or worthwhile to share?   

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 18:02 | 3344657 Chump
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I think they were more interested in being a case in point for your previous comment.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 05:05 | 3346027 zhandax
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Knucks, 100% of your brand-new 2013 tax hike went to the Sandy 'victims'.  Don't loose any sleep over them.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:37 | 3343981 General Decline
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This guy is making Rham Immanuel look good.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:43 | 3343633 NotApplicable
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How about a ban on Bloomberg terminals in order to combat excessive energy consumption?

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:10 | 3343801 Jena
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Or a ban on lifts in shoes.  Apparently favored by some short men of a certain age, they may cause the ego to grow disproportionally until the subject imagines he is Emperor.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:40 | 3343611 knukles
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That is just sooooo beautiful

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:39 | 3343605 AlaricBalth
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"...require retailers to keep cigarettes in a drawer or other concealed location...the actual products would have to be hidden from public view except during a sale or during restocking."

Reminds me of the cancerous, toxic assets on the TBTF banks balance sheets. Put them in a drawer and hope nobody sees them.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:04 | 3343755 XitSam
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reminds me of islam ... we must keep our women bundled up because if our men were to see a naked thigh they would not be able to stop themselves from committing rape.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:41 | 3344007 Ignatius
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Coming:  "Concealed Carry" permits for smokes!

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:39 | 3343999 Ignatius
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End the 'War on Drugs', but have certain substances that can not be advertised... like heroin, say, or cigarettes, and my favorite ALL THAT BIG PHARMA HOCUM (easy to spot, look for pretty girl and the puppy along side a list of obscure symptoms).

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:58 | 3343731 tip e. canoe
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can't forget the transfats.

they'll rob you blind everytime, don't ya know.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:41 | 3343582 aint no fortuna...
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I watched my mother die in 1979 from small/oat cell lung cancer that was caused by smoking. It was horrible... particularly after they had to amputate her hand because an intern who didn't know what he was doing missed the vein so the chemo pooled and destroyed the hand. I'm with bloomie on this one. Cigarettes kill and the people who make them are finding newer and more afficient ways to hook people - including putting in chemicals that hit receptors in the back of the nose and throat (they learned that from the coke dealers) so you get an instantaneous hit. We ALL pay higher medical insurance bills because of this killer. Watch a loved one die from this fucking shit that's pushed by scumbags who are even worse than the banksters and then tell me about free rights and all that fucking crap. Watch your kid smoke for a month, get hooked at 14 and know he stands a great chance of dying young and horribly. Have at it, I'm sure this is worth 100 thumbs down. R.I.P Ma.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:43 | 3343632 kaiserhoff
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I agree completely about cigarettes, one of the nastiest and most addictive products ever conceived by Satan, but this is not a Mayor's issue.  Go after it at the state level.

Here's a thought.  Make cigarette smoking a felony for anyone 10 years old or younger, and raise the limit 1 year, every year.

Smoking will soon be seen as a filthy, disgusting, old person's addiction, which it is, and it will die out quickly.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:51 | 3343687 aint no fortuna...
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it's a good idea but K Street as usual trumps it. Fuck it, nothing will stop it, I just wanted to rant anyway - I'm sick of watching this melt-up on what is basically the end of the rule of law and the capital markets acting as price discovery mechanisms. I've heard from a couple of teenagers that they tried cigarettes for just afew weeks and were hooked beyond belief. The lab guys are creating new delivery mechanisms (those "crack" receptors) that are malicious beyond belief.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:45 | 3344034 Ignatius
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Kaiserhoff:  Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?

Hate on cigs and those who make 'em/smoke 'em all you want, but get off our collective dicks, asshole.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 16:55 | 3344405 kaiserhoff
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Dude, kill yourself anyway you choose, but I don't think teenagers should be getting addicted to anything.

Should people die of horrible cancers forever?  No one can defend cigarettes as a "product," but without some sort of rational phase out, it will go on, and on, and on, and far less harmful and addictive drugs will be demonized.

A brain is a good thing to have.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:34 | 3344560 Ignatius
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I went out of my way to steer my son away from smoking and he doesn't.

When around other young smokers, if it came up, I suggested they quit.

But it's none of yours nor Bloomdeuche's business to TELL everybody how to live.

Fuck-O-mighty FACTORY FOOD is killing people early in droves. 

Why you gotta lord it over everyone everywhere?

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:52 | 3343690 WillyGroper
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So with that logic it makes more sense to shut down the manufacturer. So pull the weed & leave the root?

Sorry yer Ma's choice had the ripple effect. 

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:53 | 3343694 Father Lucifer
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I'm a smoker and hell I'm gonna die from something so the cost shit is zero sum. At least I'm not gonna die from some freakin McRib or other shit they call food these days, talk about addictive with strange chemical ingredients to provide any flavor. Also I'm tired of the costs of sick FAT people who can't even barely fucking walk. Get off this tobacco bullshit it's just another distraction. When I grew up over 50% of the population smoked, everywhere. The way some talk about second smoke LOL half the fucking population should be dead by now. Ever sit next to a real fat person, they smell worse then cigarette smoke every could. Can you tell I'm really sick of this smoking shit making us criminals now that we are a minority. Everyone in my family has been a smoker and no one has died related. Dad will be 89 this year and still smokes a pack a day. He has trouble pissing but that's something else.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:48 | 3344063 Ignatius
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Agree, but I've quit the cigs as I hate paying those fucking taxes.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:01 | 3344431 fuu
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60 days today!

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:39 | 3344587 Chump
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Awesome and many congrats.  I celebrated 6 years last month.  You've made it through the most grueling stretch in my opinion.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 19:24 | 3344656 fuu
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Hope you're right!

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:51 | 3344629 pomlad5
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quit smoking year ago now i drink, fuck....

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:21 | 3344515 Augustus
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There are more carcinogens in one charcoal grilled hamburger than in an entire carton of Marlboro cigarettes.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 14:56 | 3343717 Chump
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I'm sorry to hear about your mother.  My grandad died from lung cancer.  One of the few memories I have of him is visiting him in hospice, which sucks.  He was a good man.  Sorry if this seems harsh, but it wasn't the government's job to save him or your mother from themselves.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

~C. S. Lewis

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:27 | 3344537 More_sellers_th...
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I have never heard that quote and it is fantastic.  Where/when was that said? 

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:36 | 3344571 Chump
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It is from his writings in God in the Dock: Essays on Theology and Ethics.

I haven't read it, but I'll be looking for it after I finish Orthodoxy.  Highly recommended.

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 20:08 | 3345152 More_sellers_th...
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Thanks...on my reading list now

 

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:10 | 3343799 Praetorian Guard
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Negative vote?!? What a cocksucker. You know that this is NOT the only article that talks about it? You realize that the aerial nuke experiments was the reason for lung cancer, but the govt would not come clean and needed a scapegoat. Maybe you should do some research before blindly sucking down the hook, line amd sinker of propaganda...

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 17:05 | 3344448 fuu
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Surely 2100 nuclear detonations in under 70 years can't hurt anyone, that would go against the grain of official propaganda!

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:06 | 3343772 Professorlocknload
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More laws, more laws...long CXW!

 

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 15:56 | 3344088 MarkS
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My mother also died from small cell lung cancer.  She smoked for about 2 years in her late teens.  But, she worked in offices that were always full of smokers smoking.

But, smoking is not illegal.  Smoking does not kill everyone who smokes or everyone who is in contact wiht second hand smoke which is becoming more and more rare. Why should those who smoke be treated like second class citizens.  Are you ready to go after cigar and pipe smokers as well?  Those may be even bigar health risks.  The idea is that those racks make kids take up smokijng is ludicrous.

Bloomberg is a little tyrant: 

Trans fats

Salt

Guns

Stop and Frisk

Soda over 16oz

Now hiding Cigarettes

He hasn't put booze behind a curtain has he?  No because he would be banned by all of the 'elites' that couldn't have there wine, martini or cosmo every night that makes them feel so sophisticated.  New York, you guys deserve him...

Mon, 03/18/2013 - 16:56 | 3344409 ManOfBliss
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You're right.

Let's ban automobiles because careless drivers get into accidents and make us pay higher medical insurance bills.

Here's a BETTER idea... mind your fucking business and eliminate health care mandates.

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