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Stolper Finally Closes Long EURGBP Trade Reco... With 2.8% Loss In One Week

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We already reported on this two days ago when we pointed out the painfully obvious that the EURGBP was imploding, but Goldman's FX strategist decided to keep the muppets in a losing position a little longer just so their losses would be even greater. Or who knows why. Whatever the reason, Stolper is now officially out of his woefully mistimed EURGBP trade reco, which has returned -2.8% unlevered in one week. Apply, oh.... 10x leverage and it becomes obvious why Goldman's clients love it so very much.

Trade Update: Stopped out of long EUR/GBP on increasing Cyprus tensions

 

We opened a long EUR/GBP recommendation based on the idea that further Sterling weakness is likely given the prospect of additional monetary easing and the increasingly weak external position. Since then BoE Governor King has signalled less desire for a weaker currency and the increased Eurozone tensions linked to the Cypriot bail-out package have pushed the EUR lower. Our views on Sterling have not changed but more EUR weakness is possible in the near term and will depend on the Eurozone news flow.

 

We close the recommendation for a potential loss of 2.8%.

As a reminder, this is what we said a week ago when we reported on the trade initiation:

"the logical Stolper-contrarians in us say this is precisely the time to fade the relentless move higher in the EURGBP: history is on our side about 93% of the time. After all, Goldman's prop flow desk is now selling the pair to its clients. This is even as we said to short the GBP with both hands and feet in late November when Carney's appointment was announced: a move that has resulted in nearly a +1400 pip gain in the GBPUSD short. Oh well, time to take profits."

Please keep 'em coming Tom.

 

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Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:38 | 3349096 JeremyWS
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Free money from the best analyst on the street.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:40 | 3349107 ihedgemyhedges
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Stolper forgot to say "Muppets, you're welcome."

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:41 | 3349116 redpill
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Hey Stolper, maybe you should stick to a practice account.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:43 | 3349132 pods
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People must be killing it with the inverse Stolper?

It's like Crane Technique.

pods

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:46 | 3349417 Downtoolong
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You mean the people like the ones on Goldman's prop desk (sorry, I meant to say flow desk).

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 18:24 | 3349927 francis_sawyer
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The Goldman jews are mainly just interested in shearing goy MUPPET sheep

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Sometimes there can be collateral damage, but not to bother... They feel 'safe' in knowing that there are legions of propagandized sychophants out there armed with 'heavy as lead' words like 'ANTISEMITISM' to set the record straight & allow them to continue the raping...

All is well...

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:08 | 3349244 SAT 800
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Wow; a LONG EUR/GBP position? And he thinks he's a trader; eh? Amazing. I'm a trader, and I'm here to tell you this dude doesn't know anything. I've been short EUR/USD for weeks and of course I have no intention of covering; but LONG EUR/GBP? Nuts. You know where this crap comes from? computer programs. That's where they get their trades; God help them. I'm sure glad they're plenty of people like him to pay me when I cash in my trades. LOL.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 17:46 | 3349695 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

And he thinks he's a trader; eh? Amazing. I'm a trader, and I'm here to tell you this dude doesn't know anything.

You've got to admit that the consistency of Stolper's track record is unparalleled. Nobody even comes close.

Face it, the guy has a natural trader's instinct, a nose for finding the winning horse. Yes, his nose always finds the ass end of it, but dammit, it is the winning horse.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:41 | 3349117 DJ Happy Ending
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Maybe Pisani had been advising him.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:34 | 3349350 Anasteus
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Pissani him off.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:42 | 3349120 CClarity
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5 years ago it was bye bye Bear Stearns. Cyprus? Is Greece Lehman? Will Cyprus push Greece over? Italy. Where will bank runs after Cyprus be? And, when does counterparty O/N lending freeze up again? That's next week's panic,

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:04 | 3349224 whatsinaname
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Perhaps the Fed will help Cyprus and the Euro out tomorrow.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:38 | 3349097 Abraxas
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Do you feel the wheels falling off?

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:43 | 3349105 TruthInSunshine
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If the equity markets in the U.S. crash, it's light out-night night. They will expend every last round of ammo to prop this bitch up, at least trying to keep it from caving in.

Ben "Monetary Operant Conditioning" Bernanke holds the fate of the current Pyramid Scheme in his pimp hand. He's in white lab coat, with researchers in his ear, trying to incentivize the lab rats in new, unique ways, B.F. Skinner style.

I've been claiming, with not a single refutation from any source, that the lone, symbolic force that is propping up whatever consumption is taking place (even if the majority of it is in the form of taking on more debt, or "re-leveraging") is Ben S. Bernanke's magical "Virtuous Circle," where the pump is quite selectively exhilarating & seemingly for free (money fer nuthin', chicks for free), but the hangover will prove it was anything but free, will be a real killer, and absolutely pound the majority (whether they temporarily felt wealthier from any transitory "stock portfolio ownership" balance sheet ramp or not).

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:45 | 3349140 Spastica Rex
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Operant conditioning works best with intermittent rewards. maybe it's time to withhold a while.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:03 | 3349170 TruthInSunshine
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The Effects of Modern Money Mechanics Monetary Stimulus Policy, Near & Long Term: Modeled

 

The studies showed that rhesus monkeys, rats & Too-Big-To-Fail employed state compensated "traders" will prefer (free fed fiat) cocaine to food ... and will self-administer cocaine (or cost-average downward on ZNGA or F) until death or near-death. [Aigner, T. G., & Balster, R. L. (1978). Choice behavior in Rhesus monkeys & Traders: Cocaine/Free Fed Fiat versus food. Science, 201, 534-535)]

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:12 | 3349259 SAT 800
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IMHO they're just wobbling a little; but anything is possible; that's why it's so much fun. there are no rules anymore; no limits, no reason or law to appeal too; it's just Wheee!. According to Von Mises, and Dr. Faber, the "crack-up smash" follows the inflationary-intervention party; who am I to argue with them. Makes sense to me.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:38 | 3349098 Yen Cross
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    Closed or Stopped OUT?

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:07 | 3349243 Haager
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Margin call stop out?

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:19 | 3349291 waterwitch
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Stolpered out.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:39 | 3349100 Fuh Querada
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Who the fuck makes any money in forex trading?

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:41 | 3349114 Yen Cross
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     Traders that manage their margin properly.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:26 | 3349323 SAT 800
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Good answer; the difference between the famous 90 whatever percent that lose and the others who take it all; is also stop losses. if you don't like being wrong, you can't stand it' you don't accept it and move on; if you try to wait till the market "sees things your way" you will bottom out. It's absolute.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:41 | 3349115 JenkinsLane
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Joe Lewis, George Soros, etc.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:42 | 3349124 redpill
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Put it this way, it's better to be lucky than good.

 

I like my odds at Roulette and Craps better!

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:23 | 3349311 SAT 800
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If you hadn't said that, we wouldn't know you were enumerate; but now we do. Unlike Casino games, the futures market odds are up to you; under your control. study the subject; it's very interesting.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:15 | 3349272 SAT 800
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I do. It's not day trading. There's no such thing as profitable day trading; my time horizon is a month to three months. I look for irrational tops and bottoms. I consider the humans involved and what they're thinking about. It's not really that complicated. The one thing you absolutely, positively, must have is a stop loss. I'm probably wrong about 50% of the time; but it doesn't matter; 8 or 9% of my trades make all the profit for the year. When you enter right and the market is trending, you just leave it alone.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:40 | 3349112 Cognitive Dissonance
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Ole reliable.

Even better than old faithful.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:42 | 3349123 thismarketisrigged
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lol, this is such a fucking joke. wouldnt expect anything less from piece of shit goldman sachs.

 

now excuse me while i go turn cnbc on, as they are having a guest who is going to tell me why this 3 day losing streak is a ''buying opp''. also, as cnbc noted, this guy is a long time bear, so i am deff going to listen to him, lol

 

let me go laugh at this guy now

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:06 | 3349233 whatsinaname
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Meredith Whitney was on CNBC - she thinks BAC goes to 15 and was bullish in general.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:17 | 3349282 SAT 800
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Sounds like a really good reason not to watch CNBC; aside from the fact that after about 15-20 minutes; TV produces a trace state in most people; and over a period of years it reduces critical thinking ability to around zero. I have never owned a TV.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 19:31 | 3350215 Likstane
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so you're just a natural...

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:45 | 3349136 Croesus
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What a tricky web we weave, when first we practice to deceive ~

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:45 | 3349137 Seasmoke
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Hey, he is still doing better than Cyprus depositors

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:46 | 3349142 They Tried to S...
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Goldman Sacs would never sell against it's clients - I know I've seen the Hitler video....

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:46 | 3349143 They Tried to S...
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Goldman Sacs would never sell against it's clients - I know I've seen the Hitler video....

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:48 | 3349147 Edward Fiatski
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Leverage the potential loss thirty times to get the real picture.

Risk management 101, lest you end up at 0.101%.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:52 | 3349169 gwar5
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Churnham, Burnham, Stolper, Noes, Howitz, Dunn.

 

 

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 15:52 | 3349172 Itch
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hummm, strange man, has anyone ever seen Mr Stolper in the flesh, is he actually real? Just a thought.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:01 | 3349211 magpie
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man..archetype...algorithm, whats the difference.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:13 | 3349263 Itch
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I take it back, i found a picture...smarmy little toad. I often wonder what makes men turn to the dark side; i think being skinny and bald is a big motivator, probably a little cock too, but im not going into that, its beneath me.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:18 | 3349284 magpie
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Still, is it wise to visualize him while trading against his calls

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:21 | 3349300 SAT 800
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You don't trade against his calls; that's bullshit. you trade the price charts, volume and open interest; and that's all. Never, never, the news. first comes the tip off price move; the news comes later, the public piles in; and that's about time for me to take profits, and say thanks for the fish, it's been nice; Adios.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:19 | 3349289 SAT 800
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Your little cock is beneath you? More than we needed to know, I'm sure.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:00 | 3349206 Harry Pilgrim
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Now the Stolperisation of EURGBP has ended, is it a good time to buy it?

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:12 | 3349257 Haager
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Depends on his next trade...

Did he really DO what he said he has DONE?

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:14 | 3349266 magpie
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I think he really did...but the next trade is probably an intentional fade

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:26 | 3349322 Harry Pilgrim
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Oh come on. After six months steady appreciation he picks the very pinnacle as the time to say "buy"? You can't do that by accident.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:34 | 3349354 magpie
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Maybe the next one will be a real challenge, like picking the top for EUR/YEN

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:06 | 3349235 Haager
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Is it a private account or did he play using muppet-money? Bet FED will cover the losses anyway.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:16 | 3349277 Big Corked Boots
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FRN's are muppet money.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:19 | 3349290 Piranhanoia
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Hedley; "This is the bill that will convert the state hospital for the insane into the William J. Le Petomane memorial gambling casino for the insane"  Le Petomane;  Gentlemen, this bill will be a giant step forward in the treatment of the insane gambler"  (thanks Mel)

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 16:43 | 3349399 Doode
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Pretty funny considering Goldman folks had to know about Cyprus before hand - it is too big to be missed. Not sure if that guy knew in time, but could be.

Tue, 03/19/2013 - 18:08 | 3349832 Clowns on Acid
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" We close the recommendation for a potential loss of 2.8% "....Ummm whats a "potential loss" of 2.8 pc ?

When I close my losing positions there is no potential losses.

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