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El Pais Retracts Article Alleging "Merkel, Like Hitler, Has Declared War On Europe"
What does it take for the Spanish "first amendment" journalistic override to kick in? Apparently, in the case of local media leader El Pais, putting up the following in print: "Merkel, como Hitler, ha declarado la guerra al resto del continente, ahora para garantizarse su espacio vital económico." For the Spanish-challeneged this translates as follows: "Merkel, like Hitler, has declared war on the rest of the continent now to secure their economic living space." Ah yes, the touchy verboten topic of German "Lebensraum" - its invocation, and ostensibly the unflattering Merkel comparison (seen so often in Greece) were enough to get the article by Juan Torres López in the Andalusia version of El Pais titled simply enough "Alemania contra Europa" taken down.
Is it perhaps because unlike in Greece, where articles like that are a daily occurrence, Spaniards still have something to lose should they also lose the good graces of the German chancellor? Something that is more than one Spiderman towel per depositor in the nation's just as insolvent banking system, where apparently unlike in Cyprus, the ESM actually does work to preserve liquidity and stability?...
A cached version of the article:
In its place one only now sees the following:
EL PAÍS ha retirado de su web el artículo “Alemania contra Europa”, firmado por Juan Torres López y publicado en su edición de Andalucía, porque contenía afirmaciones que este periódico considera inapropiadas. EL PAÍS lamenta que un error en las tareas de supervisión haya permitido la publicación del citado material. Las opiniones expresadas por Torres López solo representan al autor.
aka:
The country has removed from its website the article "Germany against Europe", signed by Juan Torres López and published in its edition of Andalusia, because it contained statements that this paper considers inappropriate. COUNTRY regrets that an error in the monitoring tasks has allowed the publication of said material. The opinions expressed by Torres López represent only the author.
Oops, there goes freedom of expression. Of course, the full article can still be found on line, here for example.
But don't anyone dare touch Dancing with the Stars (or, in Europe, Big Brother). Then we will have problems.
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Did you say that? No senor...
So who wouldn't want some of this lebensraum?
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=ytff1-yf...
It was removed by the paper, a wholly non-surprising action.
Merkel is writing a new book on the trials and tribulations of the Eurozone crisis.
She's calling it "Mein Kampf" ...
One of her early works include: "Why we lost twice and why the third time is a charm"
Time for Putin to save mankind and glassify central europe.
When it comes to news and its providers:
"NEWS is what someone wants to suppress. Everything else is advertising." … Reuven Frank - Former head of NBC News
They have an excellent health care system. If you feel the planet is over-populated, that is.
lol...which reminds me.
What does 20,000 pages of NEW ObamaCare regulations look like?...it looks like this...
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/343482/red-tape-tower-makes-its-way-around-dc-eliana-johnson
lol for sure. Fat Man, Little Boy and this. Yikes.
And they're not even done writing them yet...
more likely mein scheizer lump...
She is a physicist lost in political metaphysics!
Out out damned spot...why did I leave my sweet East germany ivory tower?
We were modest and insignificant then; oh what bliss we miss.
How until her one way flight to Argentina or Brazil on urgent business ?
She's calling it "Mein Kampf" ...
are you sure it's not "Mei Kramps"
"Merkel, Like Hitler, Has Declared War On Europe"
Couldn't be further from the truth.
Hitler declared War on the Zionists.
Merkel IS a Zionist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_hole
FOUND! By machineh:
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://www.twit...
Fuck Microsoft!
Microsoft admits revealing subscriber data to govthttp://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/internet/microsoft-admits-re...
Yea I agree they're all doing it. The original link is below on a post by machineh, you should post a better link if you have it.
Scroll down there is a link to an untranslated version that you can then translate. (didn't down vote you)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-24/el-pais-retracts-article-allegi...
It's linked at the bottom of the page zh links to: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjd7vo
Thaaaaat's right all you crazy cats and dogs out there in the land of blisterin' and listnerin'...
Dr. SpinDad rollin' it out for you, remindin' you while helpin' you forget this crazy crazy...
Now...never you mind the zombies walkin' down the street, or those crazy dead cat bouncin' brokers, jokers, and tokers...'cause there ain't nothin' new in this world, no sireeeeeee. Never mind, I say, and just pour yourself a cold one, sit down on your plastic chair beside the memory hole, and keep your foot away from that great big cosmic rabbit trap. 'Cause nothin'......nothin' that ain't rollin' now wasn't rollin' then, and all you needed was four dudes and a garage coulda told you 'bout it all anyway...
Easy now brotha.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1uSxhFcJn4
Labia Majorca !
Everyone knows Germany has money and the rest are insolvent. It seems Germany is going to be blamed no matter what.
Euroz != Money, Euroz = FIAT
Au/Ag/Pt/Pd/Rh = Money! (with a side-helping of Cu/Pb!)
Long Nazis!
(Here come the downvotes. It's a joke people.)
Actually Britain and France declared war on Hitler
spain would last as long against the german army as the french did
Spain doesn't "last" agains any army.
Spain lets them in, lets them settle comfortably, and then guerrillas them annoyingly for a really loooong time.
I like that Stuntgirl and let's hope we can do it again!
I like that Stuntgirl and let's hope we can do it again!
Te va la marcha, eh?
The French are good at murder and rape though:
"General Alphonse Juin allegedly declared before the battle, "For fifty hours you will be the absolute masters of what you will find beyond the enemy. Nobody will punish you for what you will do, nobody will ask you about what you will get up to."[2]
Monte Cassino was captured by the Allies on May 18, 1944. The next night, thousands of Goumiers and other colonial troops scoured the slopes of the hills surrounding the town and the villages of Ciociaria (South Latium). Over 60,000 women, ranging in age from eleven to 86, suffered from violence, when village after village came under control of the Goumiers. Civilian men who tried to protect their wives and daughters were murdered without mercy. The number of men killed has been estimated at roughly 800.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marocchinate
the french even taught the US special forces how to kill in NAm when they took out 20000 Viet Cong in their death squad march. Colonial birds of a feather. The lessons learned in Nam the US troops improved on in Iraq and Afghan.
What goes around comes around in colonial play. Operation Phoenix chimes.
Paul Aussaresses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
France's Algerian shadow [Archive] - Military Photos
Phoenix Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Condor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The shadow of General Aussaresses, who was main french torturer during battle of Algiers in 1957, forged the minds of US green berets in Fort Bragg during the 1960s. Subsequently this cold warrior of Nazi bend was involved in Operation Condor in South America.
Funny how great minds of torture and conspiracy think alike, amongst the fold of makers of grand imperial plans; all nations confounded!
Henry Cabot Lodge could have been a good witness for the prosecution on that episode.
Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nein or Niet, It was Chamberlain, "I have to tell you that no such undertaking has been received, and that consequently this country is at war with Germany."
Mr.Lopez may need a cardiologist soon...or coroner
Good thing it wasn't written in German.
Juan Torres López, no soup for you!
Get the popcorn out fellas, Its going to be a LONG Sunday!
so orwellian
nice
if the nazi shoe fits, wear it bitch
If they had compared her to Franco,all would have been good.
Guernica anyone ?
financial stukas?
Where is the catalonian passionara of spanish republica in this context; except in Marinaleda?
The spanish people are without a popular leader; as both parties are matrix compatible.
No Beppe in Spain!
Ask not where is your la Pasionara.(dupe foil for the comintern bolshie-sionist campaign to punish Iberia for expelling it's cabbalist usurer class in 1492....via yet another violent concocted civil war)...
Ask where be El Pelayo...renegade visigothic noble returned to La Asturias to rally the Cantabrians at Covadonga, and turn back the Moorish tide. Twas the Visigoth kings of the north who first dared limit the power of the Benjamites on the pennisula...and 'earned' the undying emnity of the cabbalist conjurers for centuries.
Enough of these phony divisions designed to sow discord amongst us...just as Hispania is an amalgam of Berbers, Basques, Celts, Ibers, Semitic Phoenicians, Gypsies and Suevi\Vandal\Visigoth, so Europa is a giant mixing bowl of our Europoid peoples and the coalition of our allies from all directions...
only one group profits from these serial hostilities between family members...oh, and as promised here's your clue...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/123652605/Genome-Evolution-of-Jewish-Populatio...
http://youtu.be/2oyhlad64-s \ Paco!...el genio de la gente Europeo!
The Seraphim, so much more noble than the jews of eastern europe...everywhere they go fascism follows...
you've just created a selective human genome all on your own, all the while separating the bad seed from the good.
Cain from Abel. You should read the Three Imposters written by Frederick II of Sicily in around 1230, where he throws all three bearded patriarchal religions into the bonfire of ideological skulldudgery!
Now that is literature of the most elusve kind; they couldn't find a copy of that manuscript to nail him to cross of heretic in Papal ire. But its message was resuscitated by Erasmus (in moderate form of reformist "free will" meme) and then by the Enlightenment; in voracious (and outrageous) acrimony against those twin impostures : king and cleric. It brought that thousand year facade of western civilization meme down in one fell sweep. Man was free from both religion and divine rights encroachments.
Last nail in that ethnic story coffin : Eleanor Roosevelt and the universal rights of man proclaimed and set in stone in 1948.
That so called expulsion of cabbalists in 1492 also included the moslems as the jews...so your peculiar melting pot theory of Europoid people and coalition friends is like a punctured barrel of Xeres wine.
Goodbye old fogey, fed on foggy bottom rancid bogey man logic, dressed up in pseudo science. I do not chastise ethnicity but apartheid logic.
The world is round and all ethnicities are equal in that haven of human clowns. Unless you be a special type of KKK clown.
About the Inquisitions, everyone should at least read this, to know why, when, where and against whom it all started:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharism
Even the (in)famous yellow star has an older than apparent history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathar#Treaty_and_persecution
well done.
Latran IV conclave, 1215, Innocent III --the Ayatollah Khomeiny of Catholicism (pardon the inverted referencing adapted for current Iphone generations).
He declared in this ominous assembly as in his writings:
Supremacy of Church over Crown restated : Theocratical catholic order.
Jews as the clowns to wear hats and distinctive cloth marks; later became yellow star.
The sacrement of marriage. No divorce possible! We have been retro pedalling since then!
The concept of transubstantiation, giving bishops divine rights during communion! Only I can make you eat God's flesh!
Ostracism of Jews and heretics (cathars) who could not hold public office: led to full fledged Inquisition under successors.
The most regressive papal conclave in history!
You keep that party hat on chumly, and I'll keep wearing my Klown Kap...
this ain't about me...or you...and it just won't do to keep ignoring the science I have put in front of you....which you so diligently try to ignore with these vapid vapour trails of voluminously vacuous verbiage.
Games on...and the unrebuttal evidence of a science grounded study exploding your myth of groupless goy-haters is gonna keep komin your way till you realize that tongue tricks don't do it here...squire.
The irony is current informal, non-ecclesiastic, lay approach to Christianism is much closer to that of the "Cathars", than to (then and nowadays) church's.
My ancestors were Catharrs so we know what it means to be repressed and eliminated.
Btw, there was an History Channel doc about Frederick II of Sicily (not really sure if this one, but it pretty much covers the same subject): Frederick II a bridge between East and West - YouTube - he was what we could call an enlightened king, who managed to earn the respect and friendship of Muslims, learning from and about them, in a time of fanatical crusades.
Respect and friendship from the Bur'qa and Hijab,culture of decapitation? LOL!
Speaking of myths: http://www.haaretz.com/general/shattering-a-national-mythology-1.242015
I prefer to consult the genetic map of Europe:www.eupedia.com/europe/european/_y-dna_halagroups.shtml.
Spain among the highest concentration of R1b (hyper-European halagroup).
Yeah, if that doesn't make you feel superiorly "hyper-European", don't know what would...
Erm... think again: "Haplogroup I is the oldest haplogroup in Europe and in all probability the only one that originated there (apart from deep subclades of other haplogroups)."
Heil myself!
this is going to end ugly I agree. "They say that the Spartans grew envious of the Athenians and their wealth." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Peloponnesian_War
Although why the wealthy or "entrenched interests" would simply STEAL depositors money is simply beyond me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjkMh0tKCZo
Either the game is getting serious or it is a dangerous experiment. Either way, it speaks volumes about the pressure inside the EU I think. We are rapidly approaching some sort of "event." Cyprus may one day, in retrospect, be viewed as the trigger.
Comparing her to the psycopathic drunken puppet Churchill would have really hit the nail on the head.
Boot, hobnail.
But if the nazi shoe don't fit, you must acquit?
The façade must be maintained at any cost.
Juan Torres López now looking for a new job.
Censorship is most frequently a response to perfect accuracy.
Fuck you Merkel....
This is a moronic comparison. Germany pays the most and has the most to lose in a Cypruxit. Granted that Germany has not agreed to any OSI and has some paper profit in previous bailouts, I doubt the paper profit would be realised in the future.
"Granted that Germany [] has some paper profit in previous bailouts..."
HUH??
The ECB bought bonds at market price and wil get paid at par. Hence there is some paper profit since the bonds are held to maturity.
I understand you are being sarcastic usually, but paid at par in inflated currecny can be a loss.
Link to a cached version of the banned article would be appreciated.
It could go viral!
Found it, bItCHeZ:
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rjd7vo
Seems like he has a pretty good grasp on the situation. The big corporate EU participants kept alive the parts on the periphery that were useful and they could bleed until they were no longer useful or profitable.
"La tragedia es la enorme connivencia entre los intereses financieros paneuropeos que dominan a nuestros gobiernos, y que estos, en lugar de defendernos con patriotismo y dignidad, nos traicionen para actuar como meras comparsas de Merkel."
No wonder they took it down.
Yup. Bleed em' - bleed everyone - until there is no more yield. Then cannabalize the remains. Modern business summed up right there my friends.
Full translation:
It is very significant that one usually talks of "punishment" in reference to the measures that Merkel and her ministers impose on the countries most affected by the crisis.
They tell their compatriots that they must punish our irresponsibility, because now the Germans will not pay for our waste and our debts. But the reasoning is false because the irresponsible people have not been those that Merkel is determined to punish, but rather the German banks who they protect and those of other countries who lent, with equal irresponsibility, to gain billions.
The big European economic groups managed to establish a highly imperfect and asymmetric model of monetary union, which quickly reproduced and enlarged the original inequalities between the economies that it joined. Moreover, thanks to their huge investment capacity and the great power of their governments, large northern companies were able to retain many businesses and even entire sectors of peripheral countries, such as Spain. That caused huge trade deficits in the latter and surpluses especially in Germany and to a lesser extent in other countries.
In parallel, the policies of successive German governments concentrated more income on top of the social pyramid, increasing its already high level of savings. From 1998 to 2008 the wealth of the richest 10% of Germans rose from 45% to 53% of the total, that of the next 40% fell from 46% to 40%, and that of the poorest 50% dropped from 4% to 1%.
These circumstances put huge quantities of capital at the disposition of German banks. But instead of dedicating it to improving the German domestic economy and the situation of the lower income levels, they used it (some 704 billion euros through 2009, according to the Bank for International Settlements) to finance the debt of Irish banks, the Spanish property bubble, Greek corporate debt or, to speculate, what they did was to make private debt in peripheral Europe disappear and load German banks with toxic assets (900 billion euros in 2009).
At the outbreak of the crisis they were seriously weakened, but they succeeded in presenting their insolvency, not as the result of their great recklessness and irresponsibility (to which Merkel never refers), but rather as the result of wasteful spending and public debt in countries whose banks they lent to. The Germans quickly withdrew their money from these countries, but the debt remained in the balance sheets of the indebted banks. Merkel emerged as the champion of German bankers, and to help them launched two strategies.
First, bailouts, sold as if they were aimed at saving countries, but which actually consisted of giving governments money in loans paid by the people, to pass it on to domestic banks so that they could recover as soon as possible, and in turn pay the Germans. Second, prevent the ECB from cutting off at the roots the speculative attacks against the debt of the periphery, since the rise in risk premiums of the latter lowers Germany's cost of financing.
Merkel, like Hitler, has declared war on the rest of Europe, this time to secure her economic Lebensraum. She punishes us to protect her big corporations and banks, and also to hide from her electorate the shame of a model that has made the poverty level in her country the highest in the past 20 years, such that 25% of its employees earn less than 9.15 euros per hour, or that half of her population have, as I said, a miserable 1% of the national wealth.
The tragedy is the massive collusion between pan-European financial interests that dominate our governments, and that these, rather than defend us with patriotism and dignity, betray us to act as mere bit players of Merkel.
So, trying to censor the intrawebz = COMPLETE FAILURE!
Fuck the PIIGSF!
the matrix...its time these guys took a look at the Marinaleda model....
Marinaleda, Spain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
To Capitalist Folly, Town in Spain Offers Reply - NYTimes.com
Rajoy's Spain trying desperately to make the rain fall mainly on the plain.
Freedom of press has two faces; lets hear both sides of the popular/populist song :
That which spits on Eurocracy
That which acts in autarcy...
Neither is the ongoing Spanish model of corrupt banksta demoncracy; admitted!
"but they started it Mom!"
Ha ha.
He started it by hitting back!!
And the writer is perfectly right. It is German economic and technological repressions (plus the fact they work damned hard!) that has brought this about. The normal response in Italy, Spain and other less efficient producers was traditionally to let their currencies slip, to retain competitiveness. That is no longer possible with the Euro.
The insistence on the involvement of normal depositors is because the German banks sit with so much toilet paper from Cyprus. The paper is not worth much, and in stead of forcing the German banks to accept what they can get in a state bankruptcy they prefer to "lend" money to the Cyprus, which promptly will be paid to the German banks.
If you have ever heard about an incestuous relationship, this surely beats the hillbillies in even the remotest American backwater.
Come next week and the world will change in ways we find it difficult to believe today. Monday would be a good day to buy some gold, get some money out of your account and put your helmet on.
Let's hope we don't need it, but I doubt that.
And fcuk censorship! Fcuk it!!!
Seems to me that all Mr. Putin has to do in order to restore the former Soviet Union to its glory days is to stand by and watch the EU implode and then pick and choose the pieces that he wants. Now it would not surprise me if he already had his hand picked fiancial advisors placed in strategic locations to help the EU policy wonks along in their effort to make the worst possible decision at each cross roads. Odds are these idiots can do it on their own, but it never helps to have a little nudge in the back if you start thinking or something like that. I would speculate that there's a lot more Russian involvement in this deal than meets the eye.
That's probably why Russia isn't helping Cyprus at the moment. Putin believes he can get better terms as/when the crisis intensifies.
You are quite correct. This is the opportunity Russia has been waiting for since the age of Napolean.
Yes, ol' Vladimir has a soviet put on the Euro. In other news: (Reuters) - Specialist police with nuclear and chemical training gave the all clear at the British home of former Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky on Sunday, a day after the fervent critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin died in unclear circumstances.
Just about anyone can murder a target, it takes a specialist to make it look like suicide or "natural causes!"
Seems to me that all Mr. Putin has to do in order to restore the former Soviet Union to its glory days
You must be refering to the line ups for Bread and Soap every morning. That is the former glory of the CCCP....
Watch in horror El Tuco. It all boils down to cheap energy right now. Later - food and water. But, for now, EROEI is the blunt instrument.
Russia still manoeuvering for a Mediterranean base. Like the Crimean War (that eventually led to WWI). That's what Syria is about. And now Cyprus. The Russians hate sending their battleships past the Turks in the Bosporous Straits, where a soldier with a decent throwing arm could lob grenades at them. The biggest loser if the Russians gets Cyprus is Israel...which of course the Americans want to protect at all costs. Vlad the Invader could buy Cyprus with about 6 hours of oil & gas revenues. But the Europeans don't really want to let him. They're split between locals (who already had to choose between Greece & Turkey) and the Russians (a less likeable bunch I can hardly imagine). Europeans are very motivated to keep Russia out of the Med, and to keep their currency project alive. And to keep the promise of non-Russian natgas alive.
So the answer is? Europe makes Cyprus sweat but in the end, they'll cave. They may have some solution that looks "tough" but it will just be can-kicking.
The possibility that your view is correct is increased enormously by the evidence of Merkel's background, personal history, and (alleged) un-minuted private meetings with Putin.
these countries borrowed money fromgermany to pay for a lifestyle they couldnt afford...they need to pay germany back. these europeans need to live frugal austere lives like americans.
Shhh..
That's crazy talk, Man. You can't say that here
Repeat after me:
debt repayment is optional
Its all the bankers (Jews) fault
Do you two believe that jackal puppets couldn't be entrenched in (Cyproit) politics and finance to advance the policies of a few elite EU/EZ kleptocrats while destroying the finances and savings of multiple countries? Having Goldman Sachs henchmen installed into governments is just coincidence?
typical fucking race-baiting from the JDL's rep on ZH
typical non sequitor from a cross dressing nazi
Borrowed? So Germany didn't willingly go along with the Euro, or are Germans too stupid to learn from the past and think for themselves?
Actually, the dood\doodette is on to something...
in a very backhanded way.
"Who are the 'working-class' in Cyprus? The people who work on the farms in Greek Cyprus are often Vietnamese. The workers in the hotels and restaurants are often Vietnamese and Philippinos. The workers on the building sites are often 'immigrants'.
The typical Greek Cypriot has become used to lounging about during the day and partying at night, according to the cynics.Meanwhile, it should be noted that the typical German household is three times less wealthy than its Southern European counterpart....
According to a Bundesbank study of personal wealth, "the median Spanish household has net wealth of €178,000, the equivalent in Germany is €51,000." http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/03/cyprus-winners-and-losers.html
There is no virtuous party in this farce... if you live in one of these Mediterranean countries you see the effects of tourism on the locals. None of them are edifying. The northerners hop down on cheap flights to party and let it all hang loose. The southerners take in the complete loss of dignity displayed by these buffoons, and before long, have nothing better to offer in the same department...
Nobody can afford the current Euro-merikan lifestyle of valueless values and amoral mores...no matter what their salary! Frugal is a state of mind..."All of life is a foreign country" Jack Kerouac
Yeah, disinformation ftw!
Typical households in Spain, as in Portugal, own their home (which they generally pay for for their entire working life - in Portugal, it got to the stupidity of 50 year loans!), and that goes into their "income" at (inflated) "market" value. Remove that from the equation and you get a better picture of reality.
Yes, the Germans lent them money so they could buy thier Mercs and Beemers! It is what your country does when it gives aid to underdeveloped nations. It is not the poor people with nothing to eat, it is an (in)direct support of your industries. They get your products!
Not so hot to drive this BM now, eh?
Stand tall and say no. Default and start again, it is the only option you, your children and thier children can live with.
The alternative is slavery, poor and simple.!
"these europeans need to live frugal austere lives like americans."
You're saying that their fuel prices need to be cut in half or less?
Yes. And their retail square footage tripled.
Shop, fer chrissakes, will ye?
A partial Truth is better than none at all, hence the Red Arrows.
All these broken countries blaming Germany for their own mistakes. It´s just laughable. No one´s forcing them to take the bailouts. They can go out to the markets trying to finance thier failed economies. It´s just logical for Germany to put conditions on these loans. Would you be writing blank cheques to your indebted neighbour who has never tried to live within his means? I would not. OK, Im gonna help you, but these are my contions. Just pure logic, nothing else.
I think the problem is the persons who "took out the loans" are not the ones who are being made to pay them back.
elected representatives
but you were never much for personal responsability either
It's spelled responsibility dummy.
Says the american...
Loan sharks do the same thing, I'm with ya!/sarc
It's the conditions that Germany is attaching that are such hypocritical (and illegal absent liguistic and legal acrobatics) BS- subverting the interests of Cypriot depositors to protect German banks and the ECB. This is no better than (or perhaps a perverse reitteration of) the US telling Germany that they actually have less gold than Italy and they better shut up and get used it.
Informationskontrolle macht frei
Time for Greece to grow a pair, demand the return of Greek gold stolen by the Nazis, with interest, and compensate Cypriot bond holders.
Pay up, Germany, you fuckers.
If Germany is suddenly in the business of settling debts, then the US needs to be re-paid for the Marshall Plan; with interest, of course. Greece can get in line behind US.
Nimby, our technology brought you to the moon. I think we're even.
sure we went to the moon-we couldn't do it now let alone 40 years ago.
Sure. Wernher von Braun and his crew of rocket engineers were totally useless. And everything the Americans confiscated in Bleicherode was useless as well. Just curious - why were the Americans and the Russians so eager to confiscated every blueprint?
We have paid enough. Our country was divided for 40 years, totally in ruins, millions of dead, thousands and thousands of POWs (I've got a few relatives myself that worked unpaid in France and Russia for years), and a greater guilt. We've paid enough, my friend.
You got yourself to blame. Don't moan that we are competitive. That's the nature of the system. Be more competitive than we are. All these financial people thinking that a nation just needs a financial industry are going to get a wake up call. Demanding that taxpayers of other nations pay for the mistakes of the banks, private institutions, is plain wrong. And I am sorry if you lost money - but that's capitalism, my friend. You had some great years with your money in Cyprus and the banks promised you heaven - I am sure - but ooops - it was all a lie. Well, I am sorry. Just invest in sound things - parking money in dubious banks in foreign countries isn't on no 1 of that list.
Your fault for being fools - isn't that what you say to bailed out countries? Difference is you never paid anyone for what you did in WW2 - thefts, crimes, destruction, etc. and are now acting like a moral police.
“Without the Americans,” i.e., FDR at Yalta alongside the man, Marshall Stalin, a major chunk of Eastern Europe would not have been doomed to despotic slavery and human butchery, imprisoned and forgotten behind an iron curtain with the blessings of the U.S. government.
"Germany has always been the pawn." --General George S. Patton
After a visit to ruined Berlin, General Patton wrote his wife on July 21, 1945: "Berlin gave me the blues. We have destroyed what could have been a good race, and we are about to replace them with Mongolian savages. And all Europe will be communist. It's said that for the first week after they took it (Berlin), all women who ran were shot and those who did not were raped. I could have taken it (instead of the Soviets) had I been allowed."
His diary entry for August 18 quotes Gen. Juin: "It is indeed unfortunate, mon General, that the English and the Americans have destroyed in Europe the only sound country -- and I do not mean France. Therefore, the road is now open for the advent of Russian communism."
On August 31 he wrote: "Actually, the Germans are the only decent people left in Europe. It's a choice between them and the Russians. I prefer the Germans." And on September 2: "What we are doing is to destroy the only semi-modern state in Europe, so that Russia can swallow the whole."
http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/2008/12/george-pattons-change-of-h...
And now, the Iron Curtain has lifted only to fall again...over all of Europe, not by Russia but by the international bankers headquartered now, as in 1917, in New York City.
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one ;)
You mean germany invented strings attached to fake astronauts used in a fake lunar landing?
Ohh...I seem to get it. Just as the pushed for a fake "union" over in europe.
Okay, I was bit unfair. I have to admit. It was not only through German technology. Of course not. But it played a vital part. Americans have invented great things themselves of course and still invent great things.
The US has been paid back via the wealth that was stolen from ROW thur the 'petro-dollar'
those debts were repaid last year.
What's with the double standard? In January Germany demanded return of 300 tons of 'it's' gold from the Fed and were told "Uh, uh, uh... ok we'll have it for in 7 years."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-real-reasons-why-germany-is-demanding-t...
In that case your phrase should read; "Pay up Fed, you fuckers."
It's hardly fair to pick on little Greece implying that the Greeks have no balls when the Fed and its various branches (IMF) have its tentacles wrapped around 'everybody's' balls. The bankers are the problem, as beautifully pointed out in this recent amazing video (The Black Swan Is On The Wing). Most outstanding video of the year so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HhQejLoSA
Top news article on the website at the moment? Tiger Woods' comeback.
as his sex life improves so does his swing!
You mean his shwing.
he better be careful or that gold-digging whore ex-wife is going to take him back.
*misplaced*
This is all interconnected fibre which includes the US. So when is the Bernanke finally going to step up and end this nonsense?
WTF
WHAT TF
WHEN TF
WHO TF
WHY TF
HOW TF (ah! Well continue the binge )
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Along with much of the rest of Southern Europe.
It's professional courtesy, by one bunch of ex-fascists towards another. For old times sake.
Some posters on this still want to blame the sheeple for their or their country's indebtedness. Sort of like blaming those that took out liar's loans in the US. But.... who encouraged the indebtedness in the first place? Who purposely relaxed the lending standards? What better way to control a people than through debt slavery?
The so called sheep don't think about what it means that the bank sells the loan into the market instead of holding the note themselves. No accountability = Moral Hazard. The onus fall on the ones running the Ponzi scam. Sheep cannot do it without the "lenders" lending.
There is plenty of blame to go around. The "people" are indeed guilty, in the U.S. and in Europe, for willingly believing that they could continue to live on credit, fund their governments with fiat credit, and continued to vote for politicians who promised these lies. But the leaders in politics and especially in finance, who built lives of extravagance on the willingness of others to lie and believe the lies, are ultimately responsible, more than the average citizen of the democratic West.
There will be blood before this is over, and the first blood is likely to be that of those most responsible. Unfortunately, the bloodshed is unlikely to stop there... it never does.
The game is too advanced now. Simply consider how quickly supply chains can (and will) break and the resulting social chaos. The links which bind our advanced societies together have become weaker - not stronger - economically, from the perspective of energy inputs, morally, ethically, culturally, genetically, etc. The "perfect storm" has arrived. A supercycle coming to an end.
We live in a world as consenting adults. I've never consumed beyond my means and I was really poor long enough. Cannot afford a car, well then use a bicycle or public transport. Live beyond your means, pay up later - with interest. The world is fucking easy to grasp and understand. Consumers have only themselves to blame.
Are you just fine with what the bankers did, selling deadbeats loans, then packaging them and selling them into the market as investment products, knowing that the underlying loans were bad?
I am fine with people taking responsibility for their own lives. Always blaming others - preferably foreigners or Jews for one's own plight is old and effective. This time around it's the Germans that need to take the blame.
You did not answer my question.
I reiterated my point.
"The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."
We've been down this road before.
The Germans are done.
The import/export data has sealed their fate as the scapegoats for the EU.
If I was a rich German i'd be hastily leaving Europe in the next few months to live Far East and pretending I was Dutch if anyone asked.
WW1,WW2 and now the EU implosion, three strikes and you are out in most peoples books, the countries reputation is finished in Europe.
Look at the treaty the EURO implosion would not have happened if the South would not be so freaking unproductive or inflationary.
Like true Nazi's and a Joseph Goebbels like government propaganda tool, the Spanish newspaper El País has to blame someone for Spains fuck ups! Last time under Franco it was the Jews, now it's Zee Germans.
Same tactic, different scapegoat, so who are the real Nazi's here?
Yeah Jews in banking now thats a myth.
http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2444-banking
Lets see how many Jews in banking & finance exist in the USA? Start from the FR chairman then jump to the us treasurer and work from there.
Points awarded for the ones that are not Jewish.
Not saying its a bad thing unless they are breaking the LAW, just have to find out which law.
Actually, El País is not Spanish-controlled, but rather is owned by a conglomerate controled by a dual German/US citizen who resides much of the year in California, and who sold off all his houses to start living on his jet and in hotels: Nicolas Berggruen's Liberty acquisitions bought PRISA, which owns El País. Liberty changed its name twice, and is now known as Phoenix group.
Hello,
I am Ben Bernnake and I am tired of posts against me. In World financial markets, rule of making monies is; give something worthless in return for something precious. I am giving you dollars. Unfortunately, you idiots do not understand how to counter act.
Strategy for third world countries- Third world country government Borrow as many dollars as possible as market rates, then build excellent infrastructure using these monies. DEFAULT ON PAYMENTS WHEN THEY ARE DUE TO THE federal reserve. There is no international rule that can force governments to pay back monies. LIKE, ARGENTINA DONT TAP INTERNATIONLA MARKET FOR 10 YEARS. AFTER 10 YEARS BACK AGAIN.
Strategy for EUROPEANS- EUROPEAN government Borrow as many dollars as possible as market rates, then PAY BACK ALL LOANS WITHIN EUROZONES. DEFAULT ON PAYMENTS WHEN THEY ARE DUE TO THE federal reserve. There is no international rule that can force governments to pay back monies. LIKE, ARGENTINA DONT TAP INTERNATIONLA MARKET FOR 10 YEARS. AFTER 10 YEARS BACK AGAIN.
Angela Merkel flies into France and…
... she hides her pterodactyl wings?
Now that's funny.
Merkle leaves:
"Anything of value to declare?"
"Hollande's balls."
"Nothing of value to declare. Enjoy your flight."