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Santelli Stunned: It's Better To Be On Disability Than Work Minimum Wage

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The sad truth in the USA, as we explained in great detail here, incentives to 'work' are increasingly non-existent. Thanks to a never-ending stream of benefits from the great and powerful Oz, as CNBC's Rick Santelli notes, Disability payments (of which there are 14 million people covered in the US - none of which count towards the unemployment rate) pay around $13,000 per year (versus $15,000 for minimum wage work). However, Santelli exclaims, the people on disability get healthcare; and this program costs the US $300 billion per year. Is it any wonder that only 1% of those who were on disability in Q1 2011 have left? Santelli comments, "I'm not saying there aren't people that are on disability that shouldn't be, but much of it is illnesses like back pain... it's a judgment call," adding that, "without incentives, large issues go ...totally unfixed."


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Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment Say What Again
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All the bitchez in my hood are on disability.

Somehow, they still can dance.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment DJ Happy Ending
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With the majority of Americans either paying no income tax or collecting some form of government entitlement, it is game over.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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You talkin shit about the Multi-Nationals, Wall st and the MIC?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:54 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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Bingo, either that or he wants minimum wage (rage) increased.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:58 | Link to Comment Zer0head
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Dear Rick Santelli

No Shit Sherlock


Disability is the smart1 persons Unemployment in the same way that HandiCap Parking Passes are the smart1 persons free parking pass (no disrespect to the folks who truly need and qualify for disability benefits)



1 smart as in  scum sucking leach


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:13 | Link to Comment spastic_colon
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i like rick, but on this one he is playing right into the "let's raise minimum wage" crowd instead of the "let's reform the disability requirements" crowd.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment dryam
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I'm not making this up....

Two weeks ago I was seeing an alcoholic patient in the ER after he had a seizure.  He was withdrawing from alcohol after he ran out.  He was still out of it because of the seizure so I was asking his daughter if he had any medical problems.  She said "no, he doesn't have any medical problems, but he's been working hard to get disability." 

I am sick & fucking tired of seeing patients on disability who are anything but disabiled.  Most of the time I'll ask patients what kind of work they do knowing that they probably don't work.  When they tell me they are disabiled I then ask what actually keeps them from working.  Oftentimes I'll get blank stares.  They can't even articulate why they supposedly can't work. My rough guess is that only 25% of people on disability are truly disabled.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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"I'm not saying there aren't people that are on disability that shouldn't be, but much of it is illnesses like back pain... it's a judgment call,"

So, as a judgement call, would erectile dysfunction qualify you for disability?

Cause, with my ugly wife, I haven't been able to get it up for years.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Just make like my lunch and brown bag it, instead of eating out.................................

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment old naughty
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Incentive, entitlement...

b...b...but that's what apple-foxCONn did in china, no?

Only the disability is severe.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 07:42 | Link to Comment onewayticket2
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The US GOV is advertising to get MORE people on food stamps...even those w jobs. The water is over the transom.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:45 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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be careful, if you try to say you were a porn star they would just tell you go take it up the ass instead

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 23:41 | Link to Comment HedgeHammer
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I have had it with this disability argument. Every conversation you hear regarding this topic centered around the amount of people on disability this year versus last year and on and on and on. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE ever makes the connection to DISABLED VETERANS! Which I happen to be. No one ever considers to make the connection of rising disabled numbers with the amount of our wounded soldiers returning home with their entire lives and future destroyed. I am sick of it! We Veterans are constantly lumped in with the low life tit sucker who would rather sit on their ass then provide for their families and please go ahead and spout your fucking mouths off about how we get free medical care! Have any of you ever been to a VA Hospital? I would bet that is a fat NO.  it is one of the if not the worst medical care organizations in the world! 6-8 months for an appointment, a panel review board of worthless bureaucrats denying a much needed implant or life saving operation. Thanks Uncle Sam and FUCK YOU ALL with your clouded site to see what is really the truth regarding this issue.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 10:23 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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I hear you.

I was stationed in Germany back in 1998, and we had a no-drill load upp in the motor pool, with all vehicles fully armed, loaded with ammo, fueled and locked and loaded for BigBear.

I was at 8th ID HQ at Bad Kreuznach, and housed in old German WW2 barracks. The stone steps were worn down and smooth, a regular OSHA shit-fit in the making and Iw as carrying the base to our tracks 50 cal when I slipped on those godamned steps and hurt my back landing on the edge of a step hitting my spine just below the shoulder blades. I have had pain for years, off and on, mostly mild but sometimes it got real bad from muscle tension. Got all kinds of physical therapy, most of which seemed ineffectual till a nurse asked me if I had tried getting drunk. That seemed to kill the pain and relax the muscles just fine.

But I  have never missed any work till the 2001 IT sector post Y2K buble hit, and I lost a total of about 9 months employment till 2004 as jobs had truly gotten rare. Still I  have worked all kinds of jobs and Ihave never let my back pain be an excuse.

Lately though, the pain has gotten different, more sharp and not muscle related. The doctors are trying to figure out whats wrong and I am getting the X-rays and so forth, but it is very plausible I might end up on disability sometime in the next few years. As much as the pain has sharpened, I feel pesimistic I will reach 62 for early retirement.

But all these free loaders are destroying the reputation of those on disability, when most people are not frauds. Alot of these disabilities are related to the recent wars, and most of the remaining are legit. I know it must be hard for a bunch of Wall Street rats to imagine it, but the vast majority of people want to work and do not want to fall back to minimal levels of income. They want to feel useful and productive and not like a bunch of leeches on their families and society in general.

IF there is a problem with disability abuse then fix the damned thing, but dont throw the baby out with the fucking bathwater.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:19 | Link to Comment Hacksaw
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Your day is coming, doc, and I'm gonna laugh my ass off when it does. When Medicaid, medicare, disability, and social security go the way of the Dodo you'll be trying to get on disability or some other sort of assistance yourself because most of you over priced quacks will be out of work due to lack of demand.

Don't show up here screaming for a taxpayer bailout when the health care industry goes tits up. I bet you guys will be just like the banksters when the SHTF, crying like a bunch of titty babies. You will not get any sympathy or mercy from me, doc, you'll get what you have been dishing out. I bet you will still shamelessly beg for help from taxpayers because most of those like you think they are special. We'll see just how special you and your industry are when it happens.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:47 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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you got him confused with the insurance vultures that suck the life from both sides

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:06 | Link to Comment dryam
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Get with the program dumbfuck.  I'm the first to say our current healthcare system will soon come crumbling down.  Prices are out of control, but it's not the average physician's salary that's the problem.  My services will be in demand across the planet as long as there are sick people who want help.  I could get paid with chicken eggs for all I care.  I've worked my ass to the bone for 20+ years doing some of the most stressful work there is.  I'm quite content with knowing that few people in this world have worked harder than me, and my intentions have been pure.  I came from a poor family, and worked my way through college by working at a meat packing plant.  Oh by the way, I live in a $150k house.  Yes, I'm living the dream.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:31 | Link to Comment Hacksaw
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This a typical Santelli rant, he cries about some folks who are scamming the disability system, typical corporatist propaganda BS and as long as dumbfucks like you keep slurping it up things will never get better.

Let's say half are scamming the system, using his numbers that means it's costing me and you $91 billion. Are you really stupid enough to think that is going to break us when trillions in corporate welfare and tax dodges for the rich won't?

This is the proverbial straining a gnat and swallowing a camel. All this talk about reducing the social safety net is BS propaganda to stir the morons up to make the poor, sick ,and old pay for the $23 trillion in corporate bailouts.

So, which are you? One who lies to stir up the morons or a moron?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:33 | Link to Comment dryam
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I know never to argue with a schizophrenic or a retard, so I'm pretty much done.  Sleep well.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 09:35 | Link to Comment phalfa5
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pot stirring "moron"


Wed, 03/27/2013 - 10:37 | Link to Comment JimBowie1958
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Well he does have a point.

Corporate welfare is much bigger than Social SEcurity, Medicade or Medicare but its funding is 'invisible' since it comes in the form of taxes not paid and is not seen on a Federal budget pie chart.

That doesnt mean it isnt far larger than the welfare costs.

In 1990 estimates of corporate welfare in the form of tarrif bariers, tax loopholes, tax, tax breaks, anti-competition protection, etc was conservatively estimated to be about $170 billion.

From Wikipedia:"In 1990 the federal government spent 4.7 billion dollars on all forms of international aid. Pollution control programs received 4.8 billion dollars of federal assistance while both secondary and elementary education were allotted only 8.4 billion dollars. More to the point, while more than 170 billion dollars is expended on assorted varieties of corporate welfare the federal government spends 11 billion dollars on Aid for Dependent Children. The most expensive means tested welfare program, Medicaid, costs the federal government 30 billion dollars a year or about half of the amount corporations receive each year through assorted tax breaks. S.S.I., the federal program for the disabled, receives 13 billion dollars while American businesses are given 17 billion in direct federal aid."

Even the Cato institute estimates at least $97 billion. And how do you caclulate all the little hidden gains like locking out foreign business from selling far better products in the US while the corporations can bring in as much black market labor and H1-Bs as they can possibly manage to grab? That alone is multiple times higher than direct mesurable corporate welfare.

And would the bank bailouts count too? What is the value of having the federal government play 100% backstop to the TBTF corporations guaranteeing that they remain in business at some level, the law, creditors and stock holders be damned?

The welfare queens aint got nothin on Wall Street and GM.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 07:54 | Link to Comment King_of_simpletons
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So how does one get on disability. I would like to participate and add my 2c to that. I would like to apply to a broad spectrum of free money giving programs. Why not ?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:16 | Link to Comment max2205
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Miss one payment and I wonder what a 14 million man march looks like.   A lot of porto potties

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 08:45 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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Nah, what you should do is keep it low enough so it can't cover the cost of being employed (displacement, taxes, etc.), then you can accuse them of sabotaging the economy by doing nothing, and send them to Guantanamo as enemy combatants. Or export them to china as slave labor for profit. Or... Soylent Green. Either way, "problem" solved!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:54 | Link to Comment Max Hunter
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Crutchez Bitchez..

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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All these free-loaders just livin' it up on 16,000 a year. Driving nice cars and drinking champagne. Are you fucking kidding me!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment Dr Paul Krugman
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People want to be disabled (Wonkish)

Yes because everyone wishes they were disabled!  Just like single mothers wish they had to go on wellfare.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:33 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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Your brain is disabled

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment Dr Paul Krugman
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The only feedback I am getting from writing on this blog is ad hominem attacks and that I occasionally make a typo; other than that it appears I understand the facts and those of you who disagree do not, and instead of adding a rebuttle, you merely pick at me like monkeys eating lice.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Catflappo
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I assume 'rebuttle' was another typo?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Oh come on, he's mentally disabled ;-)

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Dr Paul Krugman
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Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Ben Jammin Bernanke
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Fuck you krugman!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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It's like saying "a family of 4 earning minimum wage".  Well, lets see, if you are earning minimum wage, what the HELL are you doing having kids?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Well, Paul, if you actually said anything that made rational sense, then you might get better arguments other than adhominem attacks.

And, I see Harry Wanker has more avatars on this site than the number of times Obama or his family members have gone on vacation.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Intoxicologist
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or Wellfare.

Wellfare (n): the cost of going down into a hole.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment spastic_colon
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and yet you keep coming back

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:15 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Fine DPK

I'll rebut you.


The question is not now nor has it ever been does the system encourage dependency.  The question is what does the system do to discourage dependency and the answer there it nothing.

Oh, juicy one....

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:53 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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Out here in the Midwest working world we all know people on welfare and disability and they fucking brag about it.

Something for nothing, hell who wouldn't? Unless you're a NY newspaper reporter.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:32 | Link to Comment Teamtc321
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Dr., You lie. I have personally asked you many constructive question's all within good taste in the past multiple times. You choose to not answer the question's or even respond to any comment sir.


That is why now, I just say, Fuck You Krugman!!!!


Don't come on ZH blowing smoke when your pipe is loaded with shit. 

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:41 | Link to Comment Key-Rick
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The real question's "Why would you use an apostrophe to pluralize "question?" But I still junked Krugman simply because he assumes that all 14,000,000 disability recipients are victims instead of some simply being freeloaders.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:55 | Link to Comment Teamtc321
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Yes, you are right Trick key-rick, that is the real question......Are ya proud you got a junk in on Krugman?


Golf Clap............

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:22 | Link to Comment Key-Rick
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That's not really Krugman but he plays the part. Dude, I gave you a +1.


Just playing spelling/grammar Nazi.  I'm just a caveman. These complex economic theories frighten and confuse me.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Ah, key-rick, you just got into your first fight on Fight Club. Glad to see you could hold up your end of the knockdown.

Golf-clap, great one, good come back Potsie!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:01 | Link to Comment cameldojo
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I can't help myself...You got a lot of lice!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:12 | Link to Comment Mine Is Bigger
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And you don't think your earlier post is ad hominem?

You wrote:

"People want to be disabled (Wonkish)

Yes because everyone wishes they were disabled!  Just like single mothers wish they had to go on wellfare.




Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:10 | Link to Comment Beam Me Up Scotty
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"and instead of adding a rebuttle"

Here's a rebuttle Paul.  Do you really think that all 14 million of those people on disability are actually really deserving of it because they are truly disabled?  Or are some of them "faking" it?  I've never heard you talk about cleaning up government "waste", and in a budget thats over 3.8 trillion dollars, don't you think there are several hundred BILLION dollars in waste?  No one ever wants to address that issue.  You just think its OK, because some federal turd counter is getting a check, and they will contribute to the "economy" even though they haven't created anything of value whatsoever.

It seems the more we spend, the faster we swirl the drain.  When the Shit hits the fan, I know what you will say from your grave...."we didn't spend enough!!"  How much is ENOUGH Paul??

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:27 | Link to Comment nantucket
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How much is ENOUGH Paul??


ANSWER: It's NEVER enough.


same as with administrators when asked about school budgets.  ask them how much money is enough.  they have no answer, be cause no matter how much they get i'ts magically just shy of what they "really need".

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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Fuck off Krugman you asslick

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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Well, Dickwad, Mr. Nobel prize.  My mother worked with the pregnant teens in high school. She  heard the girl's conversations about how they all were looking forward to birthing their own welfare check to get out of the house. That was 20 years ago. It hasn't gotten any better. Yes, welfare mothers actually plan on getting a check as a "career" path. There's your rebuttal you ivory towered know nothing.  Please, tell all these people who actually work and suffer and raise families how its done.

You are a cum sucking leech on the system, propagandizing for pay and offer nothing really in return.




Wed, 03/27/2013 - 03:53 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Hi Paul,

This is the seventh time I've asked you this question, so stop lying about only getting ad himinem attacks.  Oh, and stop avoding this question (I asked it three times tonight, so you've only really avoided 4 times so far...  it will be 7 only if you continue to avoid it)...


You might have missed this question the last 6 times I asked it, so here we go for try number 7 (and yes, I will continue to increment the numbers until you answer the question):

If growth is defined in monetary terms and money is debt (interest bearing), please explain how exponential growth of debt is sustainable into eternity.

If money (debt) exponential growth is not sustainable into eternity, then WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE EXPONENTIAL MONEY (DEBT) GROWTH FAILS?


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:36 | Link to Comment SpiceMustFlow
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People want to be "disabled." (Unfortunately logical)


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Catflappo
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"Yes because everyone wishes they were disabled!"

But that's reversing the essence of the question.   The real question is:

"Does everyone who is on the disability benefit wish they were not?"

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:55 | Link to Comment BobPaulson
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Very good point. The difficult bit of data is finding out who really wants to be off disability, so we can give them a raise and cut everybody else (and cut the cost by 90%).

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Relentless
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Yes because everyone wishes they were disabled!  Just like single mothers wish they had to go on wellfare.


Try, people want to be on *benefits*. And since I actually know and go drinking with people who have made this decision, I think you'll find I'm closer to the truth.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:38 | Link to Comment moroots
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false dilemma

when there's no work, people still need to eat, and when seeing the 'right' dr, giving the 'right' answer to get the 'right' prescription earns you a steady govt check, well, you do what you gotta do to survive.

some nobel laureate, you.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 00:12 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Paul's not dumb - if he were dumb he would answer my question about what happens when exponential growth (in debt - money is created when debt is issued) ends.

He won't touch that with a 10' pole.

He uses logical fallacy as a weapon against people he he holds in contempt...  the masses, if you will.

He knows EXACTLY what he's doing, which is why the financial terrorists pay his way and promote him to the general public.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment James
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Here's some disability fun facts!

1. Guy got on SSDI w/2 years back pay.

6 mos. later bought a Harley. SS checked DMV and saw that and took away his SSDI reasoning if you can ride/control a Harley you are'nt disabled. They also made him pay back ALL recieved benifits.

2. You can earn 1 K a month and still get SSDI.

3. SS will let you start a bussiness w/ your SSDI AND give you SSI + medicaid +foodstamps as long as you really try to make it work. You're required to do a plan and report monthly.

4. For every 85 recipients of SSDI 105 die from their illnesses.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:05 | Link to Comment scam_MERS
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Hmmm, sounds like my neighbor. He's in his early 40s, lives in a $490K house with his wife and a couple of kids and in-laws. Rides a Harley every single day, I see him leaving but I have no idea where he goes. He's been on SSDI for years, long before I lived here (I've been here three years). He laughs at Americans (he's Mexican, btw) and drinks beer and does nothing all day. I wonder if he could be reported to SS like the person you mention, would they investigate and maybe take away his bennies? He certainly isn't even remotely disabled, he works out in his yard doing different things (last week he put together a playset for his kids in the back yard). He works on his newer pickup truck all the time, and from all outward appearances, doesn't have a care in the world.

Another guy I know, leftover hippie from the 70s, was a security guard for a few years until he was "injured" on the job. He even tells me he's scamming the system, claims he hurt his back. I saw him, while in public (at a Costco) lifting up his 5 yr old daughter and tossing her up in the air, certainly not something that you could do with a bad back. He's not even worried that someone could see him and know he isn't injured at all, in any way, shape or form. He even told me when I asked him if he was going back to work anytime "Oh, no, I'm never working again!"

And these are just two people I happen to know. Imagine how many thousands, or millions are out there scamming the system and taking us all for suckers. I feel like a chump for working. Anyone know how to report someone for SS fraud? Would they even care? Somehow I think I'd be ignored if I did try to do something about it.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:13 | Link to Comment James
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Report SS fraud.


Might have a hard time seeing any action though as he is a "Protected" class. (Mexican)

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:36 | Link to Comment scam_MERS
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That's what I thought. "Protected". I looked at the site you link to, and they want to know the Name, Address, Phone No., Date Of Birth, AND SSN of the perp. Yeah, like he's going to tell me all that info. 'Scuse me, Jose*, could you tell me your DOB and SSN? Why? Um, dunno, just seems like a good idea to know all my neighbor's private information...right. And the horse I rode in on? O.K., sorry.

*Not his real name, close enuff though.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment Chuck Walla
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Thats  "Protected" as in "will vote Obama".


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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See Something, Say Something!!!  in action, right here at the Hedge. . .

get yerself one o'them phones with a camera, and call the hotline dude, it's yer duty!!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:47 | Link to Comment Edelweiss
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  Your anecdotes are not surprising at all.  I work in a large hospital, and see individuals frequently that are either trying to get disability, or currently on it.  The most common is depression, or back pain.  I recently had a 30 something female who's friend called the ambulance after she stopped breathing.  It turns out, she was supplementing her prescribed narcotics with heroin.  She was very candid about her legal and illegal drug use.  The blame in her mind was put on the physicians for prescribing her narcotics.  It didn't seem to occur to her that she was responsible for her addiction.  Her situation and attitude are not rare.  How many are there like her? Who knows.  Disability is legitimate for some, and a form of early retirement for many.  I've noticed that I haven't come across someone who is educated, once held a job that payed well, etc. and is now on disability.  I'm sure some exist, but the people I see had low paying, generally shitty jobs.  This has become the giveaway nation, with no signs of slowing down. 

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment scam_MERS
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I had a feeling no one would be at all surprised by these stories, in fact, as you have noted, there are worse cases. I can't help but be nauseated at it, still, knowing they're getting away with ripping off the system and no one gives a damn about it. Like you said, this is an early retirement system for the lower class, and just like SNAP, a way of controlling the masses. Once on the gov dole, there's no incentive to get off and the gov calls the shots for these sheeple. I can't wait for the day they get "shorn".

+1000 on the "giveaway nation" remark. I can't imagine what's going to happen when, one day, all the freebies stop coming. All I know, I don't want to be around here when it happens (I'm in the LA area). I'll be selling this overpriced POS house and get out of Dodge before too much longer.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 01:55 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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If anyone thinks the "free shit" party is big now, it will be a joint Repubeican-Demorat monopoly party garnering 91% of the vote by 2025.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment PubliusTacitus
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I wish you were disabled.


I'm happy to help you achieve that.


Fuck you Krughole

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Folks, it's not complicated:  REWARDS DICTATE BEHAVIORS.  Change the reward, you change behavior.  Works even on potty training a dog.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:11 | Link to Comment PrintemDano
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Here's an answer.  Most people on disability either A]Work off the books, scamming the system or] B don't mind living in section 8 housing as long as the Ho's and booze keep flowing.  C] Deal drugs or rob people while collecting disability.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 23:25 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Send jobs overseas, have your Keynesian brother, Bernanke print like a mofo  and buy up debt to paper over it and presto-change-o we have a non-productive country full of leeches!  

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 04:03 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Hi Paul,

Says a front man for the debt money system that is more responsible for poverty than any other factor.

Most women go on welfare because of the debt money system for which you run "interference."

If I lend you $20 at 5% interest, you owe me $21 in 12 months.  I have the $1 that you need to pay me back or you go bankrupt.

I can bankrupt you anytime I want.  I have the power, not you.  The wealthier I am, the more unpayable debt you have.

Who are you?  Government and the people you claim to support.

Who am I?  The sociopathic private international banking cartel and, ultimately, YOUR EMPLOYER!

Keep up "God's work" there, Paul, but make sure you test those "fruits" from time to time.

"If all the bank loans were paid, no one could have a bank deposit, and there would not be a dollar of coin or currency in circulation. This is a staggering thought. We are completely dependent on the commercial Banks. Someone has to borrow every dollar we have in
circulation, cash or credit. If the Banks create ample synthetic money we are prosperous; if not, we starve. We are absolutely without a permanent money system. When one gets a complete grasp of the picture, the tragic absurdity of our hopeless position is almost incredible, but there it is. It is the most important subject intelligent persons can investigate and reflect upon. It is so important that our present civilization may collapse unless it becomes widely understood and the defects remedied very soon."
~Robert Hemphill, Credit Manager of Federal Reserve Bank, Atlanta, Ga
Source !00% Money, Irving Fisher

Consequences of Fractional Reserve Banking 2) - Poverty - Debt is not a choice

How to be a Crook

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 07:17 | Link to Comment Debt Slave
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Krugman seems to think that our society isn't loaded with parasites like him.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:38 | Link to Comment mumbo_jumbo
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DJ, so you're complaining that the majority of Americans don't make enough to pay income taxes?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment SemperFord
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I wish I could get disability, why not take from the system like the bankers and politicians do. Buy PM's with it and if enough people did it, the system would crash faster/sooner!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment ChanceIs
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This concept was well understood in the old Soviet Union system......"I'll pretend to work and you pretend to pay me."

And we fought the Cold War to keep that sort of s*^t from reaching our shores.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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The Safety Dance?


Someone please link Safety Dance video

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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The Hampster Dance,...
Ben and Tim like that one im sure

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:54 | Link to Comment OneTinSoldier66
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Here you go TeamDepends...


Men Without Hats - The Safety Dance



Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:15 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Say, we can act if we want to

If  we don't nobody will

And you can act real rude and totally removed

And I can act like an imbecile

Well, that pretty much covers it.  Thanks

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:33 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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There are priorities in life. If you can't dance you might as well tie a rock around your neck and visit your gold. Just saying.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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The Harlem Shuffle.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:01 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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America's newest veterans are filing for disability benefits at a historic rate, claiming to be the most medically and mentally troubled generation of former troops the nation has ever seen.

A staggering 45 percent of the 1.6 million veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are now seeking compensation for injuries they say are service-related.

truths vs. trollage

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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Social Security Disability is the Government early retirement plan.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Debt Slave
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Especially since folks 50 and under don't stand a chance of ever collecting SSI if they wait to retire. Makes sense when you think about it. The suckers are the ones who work and produce. The government hates them and punishes them with lots of taxes and theft.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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they give you what you're worth.. peanuts.





All that lazy ass bullshit talk about no jobs... B U L L S H I T !!!

SO IT TAKES MORE THAN 10 minutes on the internet to find a job...

Fuck that! Lazy fuckers...

People are such morons without initiative...
They rather live on 13000$ a month and a Obama phone...
pride... has left America.

Want to see a hard economy? Want to know what though means?!

We press buttons like monkey's....

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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Why did you have to get me going Sudden...

I am ashamed at Americans.  Visit a local government office of any kind.  Particularly the high traffic ofices and watch the parade of welfare recipients on a government bought scooter, weighing something in excess of 400 pounds but now considered permanently disabled and eligible for all kinds of government candy.

Oh, and the local transit organizations in large cities (sponsored by all the smaller cities in the country) give this class of individuals free rides...on vehicles with ramps and lifts and all the other amenities they 'deserve'.

It's disgusting.  Those people from Nepal and VIetnam and China still want to come to America.  I'm thankful for that but so embarrassed that we've created this parasitic class.  

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:00 | Link to Comment duo
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Remember, Homer Simpson came up with the idea first. 1992 season, IIRC.  Put on weight, go on disability.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment Key-Rick
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, government cheese!!!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Ballin D
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deleted rant

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:54 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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Bailout for the common man.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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no shit sherlock-you roll off long term UE and get on disability-duh. Rick's gotta get out of Wheaton once in awhile-that town will fuck with your head.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:14 | Link to Comment JPMorgan
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Isn't that the truth.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:16 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Let's see, Wendy's or wheelchair?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Id fight Gandhi
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Why not both? oh, you mean WORK.

They have no problem eating there.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment nucleararms
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or maybe those people aren't getting undisabled? you're a quadrapaligic? oh well you'll probably be getting off disability in a year or so.. I don't really follow this logic

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment Canadian Dirtlump
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with nebulous mental illness exploding as the reasoning for disability versus say... actual workplace industry injury.. and the army of douchebag disability lawyers, I"d think it's fair to say the average jow is taking a page out of the books of the wall street welfare queens and looking to get permanent money for nothing.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment nucleararms
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so who should we be mad at here? the prolateriate that are just as fooked by the economic malaise as working joe or the wall street welfare queens?

Personally, I'm more upset at the ones driving the situation rather than the people affected by it. They're likely just trying to get by (not saying that there isn't abuse because there obviously is). The anger is being directed at the wrong people here methinks.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:06 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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It's easier to pick on veterans in a wheelchair than suits in skycrapers.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Manufacturing packed up and left a long time ago, so it's probably unlikely more than a third of disability recipients are of the "I got my thumb whacked by an angle-grinder" variety.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:25 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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he's referring to the scammers- which is probably 75% of them.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Canadian Dirtlump
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Was the article posted here that disability costs as much as fooodstamnps and other welfare programs combined? I've said I expect death squads to eventually be dispatched to deal with some of the useless eaters. I can't say I'm totally on board, but if they stop by wall street, the banking district in toronto, then Washington DC and Ottawa, then I'll go along with it.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment lordbyroniv
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Smoke em' if ya gotz em' bitchez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Udubfan13
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bottom feeders 

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment FunkyOldGeezer
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Santelli et al: Work a year for minimum wage and then tell us... is disability benefit too high or MINIMUM WAGE TOO LOW?????????

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:24 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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Thanks for putting the whole system at risk for failure.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:25 | Link to Comment NoWayJose
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The debate really needs to be whether a country with $16 trillion in debt and an annual budget shortfall if over one trillion can afford to pay anything for marginal disabilities. Even if the answer is yes, they cannot do it forever.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:34 | Link to Comment Ness.
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Start your own business then answer that question.  Good luck being forced to pay uneducated burger flippers and barbacks $22/hr with benefits (see E. Warren) and see how long your business stays open.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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You are worth what you earn. What value do you bring to your customers? It can be expressed in FRNs, you just might not like the expression. Chances are, what your fellow man is telling you is that they don't really value your skills as much as you do. But of course, if you could figure that out, you wouldn't be posting such gibberish.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment conspicio
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Is the minimum wage too low (with eight question marks...impressive). OK troll, I'll play that game.


See...short, sweet, concise, and even in english with all caps for fun. Next question. Oh, and this:


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment SpiceMustFlow
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Never heard of the neg sloped demand curve have ya?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment captain whitewater
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Minimum wage is meant for entry level young inexperienced workers only asswipe!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment NoWayJose
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Even nicer if you are on disability is that you have lots of free time to pick up lots of odd jobs here and there that pay cash and are non-reportable. Or to turn your hobby into a money maker.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:45 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Hobby. Bingo ! ( side work could be risky with all the video phones)

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Its all fffrrrrreeeee!!!!!!weeeeeee!!!!!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment slightlyskeptical
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For the most part it is mental disability. These people just cannot rationalize working for the fucking assholes who may be willing to pay them $7.50 an hour or stay sane doing so if they gather the muster in the first place. Who the hell can blame them?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment MiniCooper
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We have exactly the same issue in the UK.

It started under Margaret Thatcher when they closed nationalised steel mills and mines. The unemployed men were all encouraged to 'go on the sick'. It was a deal to get men off the unemployment register. Most of them never worked again and most had a 'bad back'.

I have looked closely at the various disability and sickness benefits in the UK and it really is the case that you are far far better off being on them than working minimum wage. For an unskilled worker it is a no brainer. You are considered lucky in some areas of the UK if you can wangle your way onto 'the sick'. People envy you being on 'the sick' far more than if you get a job.

There are efforts being made to stop the abuses and of course some people really do need the help but the numbers on these benefits have rocketed as a percentage of the population.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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Man I'm telling you - $13k a year is living large. Especially if you have children. Desperate people, desperate measures.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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It's just yet one more piece of solid evidence (in the massive stack) illustrating how depressed the economy is when 14 million men and women of working age (many of whom are young, by the way) -- which is nearly 1 working aged person for every 10 that are reported to be employed in any capacity - literally resign themselves to subsistence compensation in exchange for essentially declaring themselves permanently unemployed (i.e. they'll likely never have a career).

Take a look at the working age population versus the % of that population that's gainfully employed.  The very low U.S. labor participation rate is yet just another piece of evidence illustrating how depressed the economy has become; add in people on disability insurance, those who have taken their social security early despite incurring penalties for doing so, and then the tens of millions of others who may or may not be working even part time, and who receive federal or state financial assistance to buy food (nearly 50 million U.S. citizens on SNAP/EBT) pay for utility bills, etc., and only then does the true portrait of how bad things are take shape.

I see formerly very sheeple-like people who now tell me that they literally can't stomach watching the surreality that is the "cable or television news" because of the blatant lies spouted off with such regularity by the sock puppets.

What really surprises me is none of the above, though; what really surprises me is that there are people like Bill McBride of Calculated Risk who apparently are viewed with credibility by some, even as they literally have morphed into a 365/24/7 "Green Shoot" hardcore meme pushing machine.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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NOW GIVE ME 13000$ DOLLARS BECAUSE AMERICA IS THE LAND OF...patriots and stuff... and Santa is real... and America... is... right here... somewhere... on the... map... YEAH!!! NOW GIVE ME BACK MY REMOTE AND LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE!!!


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment juggalo1
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How did he calculate the income from a minimum wage job?  Let me guess: he multiplied the minimum wage by 2000.  This is ignoring the benefits of the EIC.  Also people working minimum wage qualify for medicare, so they have access to health care also.  Unless you factor those items in you're not going to come up with the right comparison.  Obviously it's easier to be paid not to work, but the comparison here is oversimplified.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:56 | Link to Comment W74
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Buuuuut.  The difference between "Disabiwidy" and minimum wage is that 2000 hours a year. 120,000 minutes of grinding away at some shit job while freeloaders use that time to earn "Acheivements" on their Xbox games. 

I hope you see the difference and do the cost/benefit analysis.  Plus you have to assume that a job also costs both time and money coming and going, not to mention hazards and having to prepare yourself such as going to bed at a reasonable hour to get at least some sleep and showering, getting dressed, eating, etc.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Richard Head
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I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:36 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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When banks are bailed out and legally supported for stealing by governments and politicians it is hard to cast stones at people who cheat the government.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment PrintemDano
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The government can never be cheated, the government only has what it steals.  The taxpayers are being "cheated" by the banker scum,  the "disabilty frauds", and the government.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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    I have a Krugmanoid in my ass, does that mean I can go on disability?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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Have a brother who's mentally ill - not really all that bad and readily treatable with meds.   He's spent his whole life doing only what he WANTED to do.  Worked a minimum wage job two blocks away from home,  My parents kept their old house so he had a place to live (he got a a condo when they died and the house was finally sold).  Parents paid his bills.  He collected gold and silver coins while I and our other brother were working our asses off to get established.  Work got tired of his tantrums - never expected him to stay nore than a couple years - and finally let him go.  He's now collecting disability (on top of the money he got throughout his life and the couple hundred thousand he got when our parents died.  Biggest waste of oxygen on the planet.    But he got away with it.  'I'm ill.....'   even though he refused any treatment.     FIrst thing he did after the estate was settled was buy a new convertible.     I doubt that's going to make him any more attractive to the opposite sex.....

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:03 | Link to Comment Tango in the Blight
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He collected gold and silver coins and let me guess you put your money in stawks, bonds and bank accounts.

He may be mentally ill but at least he's not crazy.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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You can't buy much on minimum wage     He'd be on the street without all he got from our parents.

My net worth far exceeds his - a pretty spectacular house (which I renovated) - paid for.  Partial interest in a relative's farm upstate, my kids college paid for and a nice sold retirement fund.    Have given away more than he has.


And no, he's not crazy.  He's quite accomplished at getting what he wants from others, manipulating others and managing to do as little as possible in his life.  I expect he'll be long dead before anyone notices and the little he has will be stolen by those who show up to remove the body.  Nobody left willing to put up with his antics, nobody left who caes one whit about him.   He got the life he wanted - though I don't see how anyone would want that life.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:45 | Link to Comment Westcoastliberal
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I don't blame people for going on disability.  They didn't ship the low-skilled, half-ass decent-paying jobs overseas.  And they're not responsible for rampant inflation in food and energy costs.  And they are surely not responsible for healthcare costs shooting through the roof. 

In many situations going on disability, which can automatically qualify a person for food stamps and healthcare, is a no-brainer for survival.  That's what we're talking about here, the lower end of the food chain (as in Humans) just trying to survive. Sure a few of these people are gaming the system, but I see people on the street everyday who sure as hell aren't living the "high life".

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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y'know, if you think about it honestly, what you describe,

Sure a few of these people are gaming the system

is really just the American Way. . .

The American way of life is an expression that refers to the lifestyle of people living in the United States of America. It is an example of a behavioral modality, developed from the 17th century until today. It refers to a nationalist ethos that purports to adhere to principles of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." It has some connection to the concept of American exceptionalism and the American Dream.

tell me these peoples are not pursuing their life, liberty and happiness in the only niche left to them, .gov payouts.  how many people are drawing monthly .gov paychecks as well, including not a few who post here? 

which is more "noble" or worth derision?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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You know, we wouldn't be shipping our low skilled half assed decent paying jobs overseas if we would have refused to buy the shit from overseas in the first place. We are the ones who shipped our half assed jobs overseas with our inclination to buy the cheapest shit we can get our hands on regardless of if it puts our neighbor out of a job. Just like illegal immigration where we have had a choice. We could buy a house built by Americans, but it cost more than buying one an illegal built, so they are here. Stop bitching and do something to change things, unless of course you just can't resist a good deal, Same as it ever was. Its always the easy money that brings us to our knees. And then we scream "we was robbed"!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:38 | Link to Comment W74
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Yet I see plenty who ARE living the high life.  I'd have more sympathy for those that are honest about it if they could dial in the scammers and pull the freebees plug.  I'm tired of paying for other people to drive nicer (and more fuel consuming) vehicles than I drive and I'm tired of paying for other people to drink, smoke, go to the movies, and Loiter/Play Xbox an extra 40hrs/week while hard-working men and women are the ones paying their bills and putting food on their tables.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:46 | Link to Comment john milton
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Telling the truth may send you permanently disabled..sorry but true

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Still not even close to the public employees disability scammers package !!!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment cynicalskeptic
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yeah.... somehow every cop in the next locale manages to retire on full disability.....   suburban dept, not much to do.... one claimed his diabetes was from sitting at a desk...bwahaaaaaaaaa

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:59 | Link to Comment otto skorzeny
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alot of badassed tough firefighters get "bad backs"

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:51 | Link to Comment Bobportlandor
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Banker I want my bonus

GE I want a Bernanke bailout

AIG I want a Bernanke bailout

GM I want my auto subsidies

Buffet I want tax breaks

Government Employees I want my pay check, Healthcare and 8% compounded retirement plan.

Obama I want my monthly vacation

Biden I want my free all exspenced paid trip around the world.

Congress we want everthing free.


Working Guy I want back what all the above aholes took, untill then I'll take my disability check thank you.



Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:59 | Link to Comment Blankenstein
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Not sure if he's a working guy if he's on disability.  I agree that the players you named are the biggest problem, but a bunch of small time cheaters adds up and if they are not truly disabled, then they too are stealing from the honest taxpayers.  Cheaters from top to bottom need to be cleansed from the system and prosecuted, with penalties reflecting the amount stolen.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:33 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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again, "small time cheaters" is baked into the American Dream - whether it's "cheating" on taxes, or food ingredients, or weights/volumes, or "maintenance repairs" or services provided, etc. - it's how amrkns roll. . .

when one truly gets the scale of theft being enacted at the "top" then what appears to be cheating at the "bottom" pales. . . dis-appears even.


Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:52 | Link to Comment Tango in the Blight
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The people who claim disability and welfare are doing you a favor. They are helping to bring the corrupt to its core system down sooner rather than later. The sooner the collapse happens the better the chance of building a better system on the ruins of the old system.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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Speaking of people who collect checks instead of working... I swear the shoppers at WalMart Supercenters are fatter than the shoppers at regular WalMarts.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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maybe stop feeding Wal-Mart's wealthiest family by shopping their corrals?

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:55 | Link to Comment pursueliberty
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No one is accounting for the number of off the book employees that are on disability.  There are a lot of them out there doing on jobs, mowing grass, working on cars, etc.  I've known a few.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 18:57 | Link to Comment jean paul marat
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The maremma!

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment jean paul marat
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I.e. bello grippo. Our fiat is fake.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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Sad thing is, most are now financially disabled.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:14 | Link to Comment jean paul marat
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Why toil for forty hours, when the spoils are free?



Tue, 03/26/2013 - 21:05 | Link to Comment El
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Except they are not free. Idiots like me, who think it is shameful to take anything we didn't earn, are working our butts off to pay for it.

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Racer
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It is better not to have any savings or house when you retire in the UK if you have to go into care because they will take it from you to pay for the care. If you have nothing, they pay for the care.

They reward the spendthrift saver by taking their money, the one who lived it up and spend spend spend what little they had was rewarded

Tue, 03/26/2013 - 19:18 | Link to Comment jeebus
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Nobody that reads Zero Hedge or watches CNBC ever comes into contact with any of these people. 

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!