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Egan-Jones Downgrades UK From AA- To A+

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Thought you could shut up Egan-Jones? Sure, you could... as a NRSRO: the same worthless designation that is carried by Moodys and S&P. However, that does not prevent them to act, and provide their ratings opinion, as a non-NRSRO. Which is exactly in what capacity the infamous firm, which was targeted by the SEC for daring to downgrade the US (the same reason S&P was sued by the DOJ later), just downgraded the UK from AA- to A+.

DOWNGRADING United Kingdom FROM AA- to A+ (S&P: AAA)




Synopsis: Re. the balance of payments, imports have exceeded exports by an average of 500B pounds annually over the past several years. The major problems for the UK is that Europe's banking crisis does not appear to be abating as evidenced by the problems of the Cypriot banks. On the fiscal side, the deficit to GDP has declined over the past three years from 11.5% to 8.3%, which is a respectable decline, but is still substantial; the bulk of the deficit reduction was the result of increased taxes. The over-riding concern is whether the country will be able to continue to cut its deficit in the face of weaker economic conditions and a possible deterioration in the country's financial sector. Unfortunately, we expect that the UK's debt/GDP will rise and the country will remain pressed (we are waiting for addl 2012 data). We are downgrading.

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Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:37 | 3382640 McMolotov
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Egan-Jones keeps its pimp hand strong.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:42 | 3382661 General Decline
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A+?  That sounds great!  It like Trojan making the smallest condom available an XXL.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:46 | 3382689 Say What Again
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Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:46 | 3382693 12ToothAssassin
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I didnt think it was possible to like a ratings agency but I do.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:48 | 3382703 Say What Again
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and of course there is less than 15 minutes to go in the regular session

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:55 | 3382741 camaro68ss
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Just break some windows, should help them get back to AAA

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 16:30 | 3382881 Frozen IcQb
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It's all part of the currency devaluation plan.

Don't be fooled. What you are likely to see is a round-robin of strategically coordinated downgrades going forward.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 17:51 | 3383275 machineh
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A+nd it's gone ...

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:47 | 3382700 kliguy38
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No SHIT....maybe make them C+ and I'll pay attention.....other wise they can STFU

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:52 | 3382727 NotApplicable
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"A+? That's a big fuckin' deal!"

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:55 | 3382736 RafterManFMJ
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Never forget these guys are grading countries on the curve; polish these fiat turds all you want, and they will never glitter.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 16:51 | 3382969 max2205
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A piece of shit country in the middle of a depression and they give them a A+?!   


Is C+ when thcannibalisml starts?

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:49 | 3382704 azzhatter
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Should be DD like all the Goldman female hookers. The male hookers are not rated

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:50 | 3382718 Son of Loki
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Bunch of Party Poopers over at EJ's.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:37 | 3382642 Divided States ...
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Tell Egan to put these headlines out after 4pm because every friggin headline released during market hours only spikes the markets higher, whether it is good or bad.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:50 | 3382717 Say What Again
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If (TimeOfDay(News.object) < 1600) then

Do While (1=1)

      BUY, BUY, BUY;

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:57 | 3382745 WTF_247
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You forgot the correlary code:

If(TimeOfDay(assistant.Action) < 1600 and Action(assistant.Action) = "SELL" then

Do While (1=1)




Wed, 03/27/2013 - 16:05 | 3382780 Say What Again
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Say WTF Again,

You need to use brackets for multi-stepped conditional expressions.

If(TimeOfDay(assistant.Action) < 1600 and Action(assistant.Action) = "SELL" then

Do While (1=1)





End (of the world);

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 23:02 | 3384169 stacking12321
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Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:38 | 3382647 fonzannoon
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The last I saw of Sean Egan he was flailing and desperately explaining the many circumstances which could cause them to upgrade the US rating.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:53 | 3382735 NotApplicable
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Did any of them NOT involve violence? (well, except for the obvious unicorn scenarios)

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:38 | 3382650 W74
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Sad that they can only do this in incriments.  Some countries need to be taken down to B+ or even C by tomorrow.  The current scheme of fudging bank ledgers, insurance risks, and ratings is what got us into this mess.  Those complicit need to be hung.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:47 | 3382697 Boondocker
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Make that invaded and i am with you

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 16:30 | 3382877 Doubleguns
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Will the French loan out the guillotine? It might be faster.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 17:20 | 3383118 Acet
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The French might even have a couple of those pre-loved in some museum or other that they would be willing to part with. All for a good cause.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:39 | 3382655 fuu
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Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:40 | 3382658 q99x2
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That country is under banker occupation and therefore the rating has no basis.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:40 | 3382659 persu
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Rating is an opinion. How can you prosecute?

That is insane.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:45 | 3382681 ziggy59
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They prosecute truthsayers, reward the criminals and minions that go along with the corruption

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:56 | 3382743 ParkAveFlasher
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I believe the transgression is worded, "harmful use of math".

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 04:57 | 3384478 LibertarianX
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Weapons of Mathdestruction !!

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 16:05 | 3382758 Abraxas
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The definition of truth has been drastically altered by our lords.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:51 | 3382694 NotApplicable
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Because that's not why they're being prosecuted. "Wrong" opinions draw attention to you, and like any other nail sticking out, it attracts the hammer.

In other news, NRSRO is proven to be a warning label for criminality (as evidenced by the Wiki article on them).

A Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organization (NRSRO) is a credit rating agency (CRA) that issues credit ratings that the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) permits other financial firms to use for certain regulatory purposes.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:58 | 3382752 WTF_247
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They prosecute to put you out of business.  Sick 50 lawyers on you and run up costs so high that you think twice about doing it again.  Has nothing to do with whether the case has merit or not.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:40 | 3382663 Euro Monster
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Ahhhh the almighty Egan-Jones...

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:40 | 3382666 Lost Wages
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My rating: The UK is fucked up and bullshit.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:41 | 3382670 Rustysilver
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A+ is very good, at least the universities that I attended.

Now, C- would be a problem.

Why would anyone even bother to rate UK, or other countries for that matter. It's all based on fake numbers.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:45 | 3382674 SheepDog-One
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Oh look! Good enough for algobots to pump a green finish apparently!

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:45 | 3382677 jayman21
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queue up the suicides...this has to be embarrassing to the royal family.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:56 | 3382742 kliguy38
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Nahhh.....they're too busy watching pediporn

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:58 | 3382751 ParkAveFlasher
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Followed by a dip in the ol' McDuck bullion chamber. 

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 16:38 | 3382905 ThirdWorldDude
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I don't think the old hag and her semi-retarded son have been granted clearance to access Waddesdon Manor's secret chambers.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:45 | 3382684 Tsar Pointless
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S&P 1900 here we come!

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:46 | 3382688 The Invisible Foot
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Ratings should not be viewed as assurances of credit quality or exact measures of the likelihood of default (pimpin' since been pimpin' since been pimpin')

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:55 | 3382692 Yen Cross
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     And (gbp/usd) just flips everyone the bird.

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:49 | 3382698 ziggy59
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Cixelsyd Algos probably read this and see it as a positive

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:47 | 3382699 GolfHatesMe
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Love it Sean!  Test Balloon on the Non NSRO.  Now you can keep downgrading on a daily/weekly basis

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:50 | 3382716 rlouis
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Bravo! <standing ovation>

Wed, 03/27/2013 - 15:59 | 3382757 Yen Cross
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   usd/jpy 94.50 @ 15:58 yesterday   usd/jpy 94.40 @15:58 today. Why did I even get up this morning?

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