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When Is A "Unique Template" Bailout Not A Bailout? When It's In Slovenia

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As we noted yesterday, Slovenia appears the inevitable next player set to experience the non-template of uninsured depositor bail-ins and the good-bank-bad-bank solution that was uniquely applied to Cyprus. However, global investors should rest assured as this miracle of modern financial engineering will not be a detriment to the nations as the Slovenian banks will be internally recapitalized (in the latest proposal) by a government guarantee. Simply put, in the world of European accounting idiocy, Reuters reports "this would not result in an immediate spike in the government's debt level, because the authorities would initially provide banks with guarantees rather than newly issued securities." Which leaves us asking, just how much is a one-week-old Slovenian government's guarantee worth in real money? And why didn't the Cypriot government just 'promise' to do 'whatever it takes' to support their banks' bad assets? Of course the chance of the bailout happening just surged:

  • *SLOVENIA WON'T NEED BAILOUT, ECB'S KRANJEC SAYS

 

 

Via Reuters,

Slovenia has been thrown into the spotlight as the next eurozone country likely to seek an international bailout, given the fragile state of its banking sector.

 

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While the government insists that Slovenia will be able to get through the crisis under its own steam, a deal with international lenders could provide a key backstop to fears of contagion, say analysts.

 

"Slovenia is now inevitably heading to a bailout, the eurozone shot itself completely in the foot following the Cyprus issue," said Tim Ash, head of EM research ex-Africa at Standard Bank.

 

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"There is a pocket of interest [among investors], so an international bond issue could work, but they would have to pay up massively," said an origination official. "They would need some tailwind as well."

 

The government might also need to target US dollars, rather than euros. "In euros no way," said a second banker. "US dollar investors are used to volatility. They definitely still have access to US dollars."

 

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"Market momentum is moving against Slovenia, and quick," said Ash. "It will be tough and expensive for them to put a new issue to bed without significant backstopping from the Troika."

 

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Part of the uncertainty still surrounding the country is due to adjustments that the new governing coalition - led by Prime Minister Alenka Bratusek - has pledged to make to the original 'bad bank' proposal put forward by the previous Janez Jansa administration.

 

One of the key tweaks now under consideration, according to RBS, is the creation of internal bad banks within each of the country's largest financial lenders, postponing any transfer of toxic assets to an external bank asset management company to a later date.

 

"Initially, bad assets would be transferred to the internal bad banks and backed simply by government guarantees," said Abbas Ameli-Renani, an emerging market strategist at RBS.

 

Under the original proposal, assets would have been transferred immediately to the BAMC in exchange for newly-issued government bonds.

 

While there will be a simultaneous recapitalisation of banks under both arrangements, the new version would not result in an immediate spike in the government's debt level, because the authorities would initially provide banks with guarantees rather than newly issued securities.

 

One of the downsides, however, is that the plan will keep bad assets on banks' balance sheets and under the same management.

 

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Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:18 | 3385655 hedgeless_horseman
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Slovenia cannot print their own money.  They are screwed.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:20 | 3385660 redpill
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"SLOVENIA WON'T NEED BAILOUT, ECB'S KRANJEC SAYS"

 

Death sentence.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:27 | 3385694 hedgeless_horseman
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All these lies, all this pain, just so zee Germans can keep the ECB from issuing EuroBonds.  I admit, they have fought longer and harder than I guessed.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:55 | 3385787 Manthong
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They had their chance

(to be like Iceland)

and they blew it.

Lucky to get sloppy seconds.   

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 16:01 | 3386520 johngaltfla
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The good news?

 

Their stock market is ONLY down 78%(as the chart in the link below indicates) as opposed to the 98.9% in Cyprus. I would call that the buying opportunity of a lifetime. Where's that ghoulish bitch from Goldman pumping that along with SPX 1750?

 

Slovenia is the Next Crisis for the Dysfunctional European Union

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:34 | 3385717 Cdad
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Slovenia = all the nations of the Earth

won't need bailout = legislation being written for mandatory bail-ins

ECB = pretty daffodils

Kranjec says = as Kranjec hits send on Op ed while finishing packing up the Land Rover

death sentence = access denied or ROW!

redraft and submit

 

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:35 | 3385725 Abraxas
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You guys are so cynical. Why can't you trust the authorities, just for once? I'm sure they have our best interests at the top of their priorities.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:44 | 3385753 aint no fortuna...
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no bailout maybe, but a nice big fat bailIN is coming

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:39 | 3385735 Skateboarder
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Bailouts, bailouts, everywhere,
And all the wealth did shrink.
Bailouts, bailouts everywhere,
Nor any time to think!

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:40 | 3385739 hedgeless_horseman
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Bailouts, bailouts, everywhere,
And all the wealth did shrink.
Bailouts, bailouts everywhere,
Not any time to think! Time to order more ink!

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:23 | 3385874 RhoneGSM
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Why it's the Rhyme of the ancient Mar(r)iner Eccles!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriner_Stoddard_Eccles

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:56 | 3385988 asteroids
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It IS a long holiday weekend. Anything can happen.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:03 | 3386018 ChanceIs
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Do I have to repeat??????

"It's contained to subprime......er ah........Cyprus, Bitchez."

Benyamin Shalom Bernanke

See Max Keiser.   Lanny Breuer landed at Covington for $4 megs per annum.  I bet that will be deposited over at least 40 - no wait - 80 banks.  Just to be safe.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:08 | 3386032 Stoploss
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Slovenia is no bigger than a flea, absolutely no impact on markets whatsoever.

 

Let me guess, Larry Fink is long Slovenia..

 

Figures.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:57 | 3386228 masterinchancery
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Otto von Bismarck--"Never believe anything until it's been officially denied."

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:33 | 3385722 OptionNinjaNYC
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Number of countries in the European Union: 27

Number of letters in the following sentence: 25

Goldman Sachs Doing God’s Work.

Greece and Cyprus – ELIMINATED.

2 Down, 25 More To Go.

http://wallstreetfool.com/2013/03/28/european-debt-crisis-slovenia/

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:42 | 3385750 Mark123
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So, correct me if I am wrong...but new Fed math goes as follows:

 

create money for Fed ($85 billion/month)....use new money to buy government debt....government gives money away....gold price flat to down....cash becomes scarce and more valuable.

 

So cash is different than money?  Cash is better than gold?  I give up....it is more and more like trying to figure out a David Lynch movie.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 20:33 | 3387348 Spawn of Cagliostro
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Slo-where? 

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:19 | 3385656 SheepDog-One
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It's just the Brave New Normal...nothing to see here, just hand over all your money and get back on those oars and ROW, damn insolent peasants!

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:22 | 3385673 Cdad
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But not all of the peasants are insolvent...unless...oh, I see...you mean all peasants are by default insolvent if there are talking monkeys at the controls in their local bank.  Gotcha.  Never mind.

Still, I cannot help but think that not all peasants like rowing.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:28 | 3385698 SheepDog-One
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That's OK, they've got whips for that. They call em 'Incentivizers'.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:49 | 3385764 earnyermoney
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"the beating will continue, until morale improves..."  Anonymous Fascist

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:20 | 3385661 jover
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If slovenia gets the same treatment as cyprus, there will be bank runs across europe.

One time is really a unique situation but two times isnt

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:56 | 3385986 BooMushroom
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Three times is enemy action.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:29 | 3386092 SpiceMustFlow
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I want to see Zizek start bitching and flailing his arms about

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:20 | 3385662 fonzannoon
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These bond vigilante's are a bunch of pussy's. Slovenia?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:22 | 3385665 Seasmoke
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may as well spend it all and enjoy it , before they take it all from you

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:23 | 3385677 SheepDog-One
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Yep, I just bought a $800 Balabushka pool cue....may as well. 

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:07 | 3385823 Nobody For President
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Yep, just bought more silver for delivery and local storage before the boat trip.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:24 | 3385667 Cognitive Dissonance
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*SLOVENIA WON'T NEED BAILOUT, ECB'S KRANJEC SAYS

That is the signal to the citizens of Slovenia to run to your bank before there is a bank run....which will never happen because the banks will be closed before "the run".

<Run Forest Slovenia Run.>

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:13 | 3385842 machineh
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*SLOVENIA WON'T NEED BAILOUT, ECB'S KRANJEC SAYS

It's not official till it's officially denied.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:46 | 3385955 Dareconomics
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The first indication that your country needs a bailout is when your government claims the opposite.

 

http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/slovenia-next-for-bailout/

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 15:01 | 3386247 masterinchancery
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Always key to be the first to panic.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 17:38 | 3386884 Gief Gold Plox
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I for one have kept my earnings and savings far far away from the banking system of this corrupt country. Yes, I do actually live there. Can't you sense all my nationalist pride? Anyways, those few I could save have been the rest of em can figure the shit out as they are told whats been done to them through the telly.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:24 | 3385672 toys for tits
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If it's perceived you're a tax haven country, you are a bullseye for financial devastation by the EuroZone. 

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:22 | 3385674 The Invisible Foot
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Ahhh free markets M&A at work.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:24 | 3385680 hugovanderbubble
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Greece 2011 we wont need bailout

Portugal 2012 we wont need bailout

Spain we dont need ESM money and PCCL

.....

 

Last one, please close the door softly...

 

 

SLOVENIA, HUNGARY, and ROMANIA ARE IN DEFAULT.- PERIOD

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:25 | 3385687 hugovanderbubble
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And Dont Forget CROATIA...

 

One of  Basketball Colleagues in Serbia told me: Hugh, Our Banking System will be FULLY NATIONALIZED. (and its not a threat is just a tip)

 

SERBIA AND CROATIA KAPUT

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:52 | 3385776 TPTB_r_TBTF
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That far South they need to ask the Ottomans for a bail-in arrangement.  I am sure the Ottomans will oblige.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:21 | 3385871 Abraxas
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The Turks might want to drive spits through a few of the leaders just to make sure they will get their money back with the interest. After all, they had ruled the Balkans for only 500 years.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:26 | 3385692 Bold Eagle
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Will Slovenia need a bail-in?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:45 | 3385757 earnyermoney
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Looking at the Domino chart of the other post on this topic, why Slovenia before Belgium?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:26 | 3385697 Bicycle Repairman
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What is the point of a small country belonging to the EU, if there is no help when the SHTF?  Where's the unity?  The protection as part of a bigger, stronger whole?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:50 | 3385769 Dan Conway
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I am sure it made sense to the slovenia/cyprus leaders after a long weekend of women, booze and coke.  Oh, and probably a german thug with a gun saying "zine zee papers!"

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:29 | 3385709 SheepDog-One
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AH well....at least things are just great here in the good 'ol USA...look at STAWKS look at em go!

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:39 | 3385713 Yen Cross
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    All these good bank bad bank[eurocrat] schemers, remind me of that show about people that hoard things that they have zero use for. We should fly the lot of them to 'Fantasy Island' for an intervention by Mr. Roarke.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:36 | 3385731 L_Conquistador
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Whenever a European minister says something like "this is not the bail-out you're looking for" can he at least do the little Obi-Wan finger waive thing, to make it interesting?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:41 | 3385746 ziggy59
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ECBsters should be looking for BAIL!

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:44 | 3385754 ConfederateH
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Does anyone else find it despicable the way each sovereign government in the EU is forced to go to confession at the ECB for their past sins when their past sins pale in comparison to those of the ECB?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:53 | 3385781 eclectic syncretist
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HOLY SHIT BERNANKE, YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!  Get those plates on the presses changed back over to Euro's and start printing like Porky Pig on Prozac!  Ol' Bennie's gonna need some Bennie's before this days done.  Print, print, print, you worthless sack of shit for brains asshole jizzface scumbag.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:30 | 3385903 Nobody For President
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Plus one for 'Porky Pig on Prozac'.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 12:58 | 3385793 Yen Cross
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     Once again. Where's Draghi?    Crickets...  

    The ECB is quietly letting the Fed. do it's work for it. Inflation is so out of control in Europe that any(perceived) Euro value must be preserved at all costs. The starving serfs must save the day. Sad. So very sad.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 15:47 | 3386431 NoClueSneaker
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U can bet  he'll push his useless dumbfuck Jörg ASSmussen to celebrate his stupidity somwhere on teevee . Goldman ECB-Crackpot likes the showlight ...

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:01 | 3385801 Schmuck Raker
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"The government might also need to target US dollars, rather than euros. "In euros no way," said a second banker. "US dollar investors are used to volatility. They definitely still have access to US dollars."

*cough-Bernanke-cough*

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:02 | 3385807 Super Broccoli
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ooooh i'm sick of it, fuck slovenia, who cares ?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:09 | 3385827 the not so migh...
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EU will now use US dollars, one big super empire from the Pacific to Babylon.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:09 | 3385828 Cacete de Ouro
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What the flying fuck is Slovenia doing in a currency union anyway?
This currency union is nuts!

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:47 | 3385959 Mototard at Large
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They have very nice ski hills, a seriously cool castle on Lake Bled and they are not Croatia, Bosnia or Serbia.

Beyond that, not so sure.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:13 | 3386050 e-recep
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the bigger the ponzi (euro) the more lucrative it is for those at the top.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:39 | 3385929 hooligan2009
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ok,,,so its the bbc doing on the ground "research" but "this is what it sounds like when doves cry" in cyprus (troodos mountain range in the centre of the island)

better be a hawk than a dove, i'm thinking

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21960296

 

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 13:49 | 3385966 Didn't build that
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slovenia is not cyprus....

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:20 | 3386074 hooligan2009
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or ireland, macedonia, bulgaria, malta, luxembourg, isle of man, jersey, guernsey, cayman islands, bermuda....but it could be, after all, all it takes is sloppy banking supervision and a low corporate tax rate with freedom of capital flows

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 14:14 | 3386051 e-recep
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this time it's different.

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 15:00 | 3386245 hooligan2009
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easter bank holidays?

Thu, 03/28/2013 - 22:43 | 3387635 Kirk2NCC1701
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I SMELL A BIG RAT! A Goldmanus Sachus Ratus, or a Euro Rat. How can a country go from a picture of health and a puny 38% debt/GDP ratio one year, and in ICU the next? Somebody is scamming big time! /But the PR message from yje CB propaganda ministry is clear: "Don't use peripheral banks. Use only EU core banks, who have the backing of the US Fed." /s

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