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Thanks, World Reserve Currency, But No Thanks: Australia And China To Enable Direct Currency Convertibility

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A month ago we pointed out that as a result of Australia's unprecedented reliance on China as a target export market, accounting for nearly 30% of all Australian exports (with the flipside being just as true, as Australia now is the fifth-biggest source of Chinese imports), the two countries may as well be joined at the hip.

Over the weekend, Australia appears to have come to the same conclusion, with the Australian reporting that the land down under is set to say goodbye to the world's "reserve currency" in its trade dealings with the world's biggest marginal economic power, China, and will enable the direct convertibility of the Australian dollar into Chinese yuan, without US Dollar intermediation, in the process "slashing costs for thousands of business" and also confirming speculation that China is fully intent on, little by little, chipping away at the dollar's reserve currency status until one day it no longer is.

That said, this latest development in global currency relations should come as no surprise to those who have followed our series on China's slow but certain  internationalization of its currency over the past two years. To wit: "World's Second (China) And Third Largest (Japan) Economies To Bypass Dollar, Engage In Direct Currency Trade", "China, Russia Drop Dollar In Bilateral Trade", "China And Iran To Bypass Dollar, Plan Oil Barter System", "India and Japan sign new $15bn currency swap agreement", "Iran, Russia Replace Dollar With Rial, Ruble in Trade, Fars Says", "India Joins Asian Dollar Exclusion Zone, Will Transact With Iran In Rupees", and "The USD Trap Is Closing: Dollar Exclusion Zone Crosses The Pacific As Brazil Signs China Currency Swap."

And while previously the focus was on Chinese currency swap arrangements, the uniqueness of this weekend's news is that it promotes outright convertibility of the Yuan: something China has long said would happen but many were skeptical it ever would. That is no longer the case, and with Australia setting the precedent, expect many more Asian countries (at first) to follow in Australia's footsteps, because while the developed world is far more engaged in diluting its currency as a means to spur "growth", Asian and developing world nations are still engage in real, actual trade, where China is rapidly and aggressively becoming the world's hub. 

More from The Australian:

Former ambassador to China Geoff Raby, now a Beijing-based business figure, told The Weekend Australian: "The value of such a deal would be substantial for exporters to China, especially those that import a lot from China like mining companies, as it would remove business constraints including exchange-rate risks and transaction costs."

 

Businesses, like individuals when travelling, have to pay extra to convert currency since there are different rates for buying and selling.

 

So removing one step also cuts out the cost of paying for such a "spread".

 

Australia has undertaken significant lobbying for the deal and the direct conversion of the yuan, also referred to as the renminbi (RMB), is identified as a priority in the government's Asian century white paper.

 

"We have held preliminary discussions with the Chinese government to explore how soon direct convertibility can be practicably achieved," the white paper says.

 

"We are continuing these discussions, and also exploring other opportunities to work with China to support the internationalisation of the RMB."

Australia's banks increasingly arrange trade finance through Hong Kong, which has developed a special role as China's chief international finance centre.

Needless to say, China is eagerly looking forward to taking yet another bite out of the USD's reserve status.

New President Xi Jinping, a former Communist Party secretary of Shanghai, is a champion of that city's development as China's finance hub, and it is believed that the Prime Minister may fly there to sign the currency conversion deal.

 

Ms Gillard is expected to go on from Shanghai to Beijing, where she will open the third Australia China Economic and Trade Forum organised primarily by the Australia China Business Council, which will be bringing about 100 people from Australia for the event. Participants are likely to include Andrew Harding, Rio Tinto's new chief executive for iron ore; Warwick Smith, ANZ Bank's chairman for NSW and the ACT; Australian Trade Minister Craig Emerson and Financial Services Minister Bill Shorten; Gao Hucheng, China's Commerce Minister; and Gao Xiqing, the acting head of China Investment Corporation, the country's vast sovereign wealth fund.

 

The ANZ Bank has been a strong advocate of direct convertibility between the dollar and the yuan. Gilles Plante, the bank's chief executive in Asia, said in a recent report that in the last financial year, China accounted for 29 per cent of all exports and 18 per cent of imports, but the value of that trade denominated in yuan was less than 0.3 per cent.

 

He forecast that cross-border flows of funds would be liberalised "to support Shanghai's plan to build itself as a global financial centre. At the time the whole world is digging out opportunities from the rise of the yuan, Australia should not lag behind."

 

It was significant the liberalising governor of the People's Bank, Zhou Xiaochuan, kept his job during the reshuffle of China's leadership. He said last year at a conference: "The next movement related to the yuan is going to be reform of convertibility. We are moving in this direction; we need to go further, we will have some deregulation."

Most importantly, to China, Australia will serve as the Guniea Pig - should this experiment in FX liberalization work out to China's satisfaction, expect Beijing to engage many more trade partners in direct currency conversion.

Beijing appears to have chosen Canberra as its partner in this next movement for straightforward economic reasons, as Australia has become China's fifth-biggest source of imports and thus, the appropriate partner for the march of its currency.

 

Ms Gillard and President Xi Jinping may also during the visit establish a "strategic partnership" between the countries. This will enable Australia to catch up in status with a large range of nations.

Why is this so very critical? For the simple reason that the free lunch the US has enjoyed ever since the advent of the US dollar as world reserve currency, may be coming to an end as other, more aggressive alternatives - both fiat, and hard-asset based - to the USD appear. And since there is no such thing as a free lunch, all the deferred pain the US Treasury Department has been able to offset thanks to its global currency monopoly status will come crashing down the second the world starts getting doubts about the true nature of just who the real reserve currency will be in the future. 


 


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Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:50 | Link to Comment Passage
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Because these are big economies

A year ago, I was convinced that it was about Northern Europe vs Southern Europe. I am so wrong. It is Big vs Small. Look at the differences in ECB and IMF approach when it comes to bailing out various troubled member states of Eurozone. 

Good luck to those Euro states with economic size smaller the Greeks; Luxembourg, Slovenia, Malta, Cyprus, Estonia. Good luck to all the small countries in the world.

Good luck to their depositors. It is still about TOO BIG TO FAIL.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment Passage
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Australia is welcoming and making it easier for the Chinese to swallow their mines.
1-2a week ago, China's Central Bank Chief Zhou Xiaochuan and his deputy mentioned that China imported about 400-500tonnes of gold annually and claimed that buying more will propel gold into higher territoriries.

So the Chinese will buy mines instead.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:05 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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lest you forget india's geography...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment knukles
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Now, simple logic would dictate this being great for PMs and hard assets...for gold etc have been under pressure with the strong dollar recently. To wit, golds close to an all time high in Jap Yen
So, whatever
And don't forget to feed the fish

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment macholatte
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Was it Obama or Lenin who said thiese things:

 

The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.

The surest way to destroy a nation is to debauch its currency.

Destroy the family, you destroy the country.

A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.

Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.

We can and must write in a language which sows among the masses hate, revulsion, and scorn toward those who disagree with us.

 

--- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:46 | Link to Comment Shocker
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This is just another hit to the US dollar / US Economy.

Its only here and there, with replacing or no longer using the dollars but it adds up.

Interesting times we are in.

http://www.dailyjobcuts.com

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Sun, 03/31/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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Oh shitsky. The koi is about to hit the fan tan.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 04:08 | Link to Comment TwoShortPlanks
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For some time now on ZH I've been saying that Australia has more in common with China than America.

Walk down any street in any Aust city and you'll see/hear few Yanks, but tons of Chingaz.

No surprises here!

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:35 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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this is all very good news

these dollars are coming online exactly at the right time to buy treasurys, thus assuring the continued bull market for us debt

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment CrazyCooter
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I know a certain little boy whose name rhymes with "en ernanke" who will be working really hard to clean his plate each night once all these dollar reserves start coming home.

Have to keep interest rates low, you know, to keep the little guy employed!

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:15 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Gold miners are selling at record lows with proven gold deposits selling at 13% of current gold price.  When gold miners are expensive, the gold reserves sell for 38% of gold price.

Gold miners are a big bargain now and so are silver miners.  It would be stupid of China not to buy them with their $3.549 trillion of reserves (Dec 2012).  They officially have only about 1000 tons of gold worth about $50 billion now. But they announce their reserves only once every 5 years.  So their official number is dated.  They may announce updated gold reserves in 2014.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Passage
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I suppose this is a very positive for the Austrialian miners, BHP, Rio Tinto, Newcrest, Fortescue etc

They have been dropping while Dow and S&P surged to greater heights this year.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:30 | Link to Comment CrazyCooter
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Short with the pension funds, buy with the prop desk.

Roger Roger. What's our vector Victor?

Regards,

Cooter

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:36 | Link to Comment DosZap
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They officially have only about 1000 tons of gold worth about $50 billion now. But they announce their reserves only once every 5 years.  So their official number is dated.  They may announce updated gold reserves in 2014.

 

Multiply that by at least a factor of 10-15.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 18:01 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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j. o.....i find your commet quite gullible...you are making comments that would apply, if we had a sorta honest market.   if you have not watched the recent video posted here earlier by grant williams, take the time and do so....you would see were im coming from.....fundamentals are for dead and will not matter again until the end, and im not talking paper fundamentals of mining stocks......cypris is a preview that really shows how it will get for the peons everywhere eventually.......we are all  cypriots now....

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 08:57 | Link to Comment tango
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Your are right...and wrong.   Yes, securities are being driven by endless flows of debt dollars but the winners are still those that make money and are well-managed - Google, Samsung, IBM, Blackrock, food, energy.   Even the least plausible sector - retail - is still doing well because we have reverted to debt world.  Plus, companies that do not meet expectations fall.  One formula for success is simply buying the energy and food sectos spiders with PMs for a hedge.    

Stocks are trading "normal" (if profits are the prime mover) except with a steroid booster and this skews everything.  What is really whacked is the bond market.  It is on the tip of the tip of an enormous bond bubble that will someday burst with catastrophic consequences.  But then, so will the retail sector, the pension plans and social seurity.     

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment rogeliokh
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"It is still about TOO BIG TO FAIL."

Yeap, Too BIG to Jail.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:55 | Link to Comment TraderTimm
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Fixed that reserve currency chart for you:

 

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzdbolIn7zf1V0hacWdKaHRGa2c/edit?usp=sha...

 

It is going to be fun watching the central banks run around like chickens with their heads cut off.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:51 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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Alt currency dept. -

Karl Denninger - computer geek as well as ZH-copying financial pundit - just wrote a long and persuasive piece, absolutely rubbishing bitcoin, including legal risks particularly in the fascist USA, noting how it has aspects of a pyramid-like scheme to benefit its founders and early adopters:

'BitCon: Don't'

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=219284

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment orez65
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Bitcoin is no different than the Federal Reserve, they are both fiat money scams.

Don't people learn????

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment DYS
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Not true. Bitcoins must be mined by algorithmic computation. Federal reserve notes can be created with a few keystrokes. Also, the market for bitcoins is truely a free market for a finite commodity. In a way, bitcoins are a perfect replacement for gold, because they have no other use except as an exchange for fiat curency. Therefore, they are not influenced by industrial demands. The combination of finite resource combined with open market makes bitcoin a viable long term global currency solution.

Learn more about it, before spreading popular rumors.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment CH1
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There is a massive info war against Bitcoin. Amazing to hear people calling it a Ponzi - they have no idea how utterly ignorant that statement is.

Anyway, maybe it gives me time to accumulate some of them. If they demand to be suckers, I'll take the other side of the bet.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:48 | Link to Comment gold-is-not-dead
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True, everybody's calling it ponzi, yet somehow all those fear mongers forget to mention that every other asset is hyperinflating in comaprision to btc, and will continue to do so untill all the accounting has been done.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:35 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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Turn the computer off and "bitcoin" is gone forever. It's not safe, and in fact is rather foolish. Silver and Gold, in the pocket or under the matress, that's all you can count on.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:19 | Link to Comment gold-is-not-dead
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yup, one should always have a piece of phyz, no question there... but how do you mean turn of the computers, you mean like kill the telco industry? perhaps burn all the books as well? And people with glasses should be expelled from society and if you own a bicycle you should give your umbrella back to others?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment CrazyCooter
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If it works for you, great. You will be happy because it provides value to you. Personally, I would never accept it and would only accept it for wages in very desparate times. To each his own.

Regards,

Cooter

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment BooMushroom
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EMP.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 03:32 | Link to Comment gold-is-not-dead
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EMP is useless for optical storage, only magnetic ones which are turned on would be in danger...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Mesquite
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re:EMP..(Solar or man-made..)

Ya..And all those low voltage, small gap electronics...

Like in all those PLCs that control the electric grid..

Then, when standby generators run out of fuel, there go the cooling pumps..

Then, there goes the nuclear fuel stability...

Then, oops, about what, 134 or so Fukushima type events...

Hmmm..

Wonder how long the batteries last in all those various computers/server farms/data centers..

BitCoin..Oh yeah..

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 20:58 | Link to Comment BooMushroom
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Good luck reading your optical storage without a power grid or a functioning computer.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 11:54 | Link to Comment DYS
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You can print out your bitcoins and keep a physical log of them.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 12:26 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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So bitcoin is a piece of paper with a claim.

Hmmm. Where have I heard that before?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 22:55 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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The beautiful, hot, friendly ladies in south amer. are totally open to your bitcoins.  No FRN's (Fornicated Regulated Notes) needed.  Direct, peer-to-peer agreement.  How libertarian is that?  One to beam up!  ;-)

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:09 | Link to Comment Smuckers
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Bitcoin is just a flavor of the month. 
Nothing to stop other cryptocurrencies (Litecoin, etc) from entering the currency market.

A currency backed by precious metals, requiring honest work to produce more of it - is what this ape-covered ball of dirt needs.

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:33 | Link to Comment gold-is-not-dead
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bitcoin is protocol, all the subcoins are part of that bitcoin network... all the subcoins inital value derive from instruments of major bitcoin instance and where it was in that period of time when they were created, namecoin 1/50th part of a btc, litcoin 200th part etc...

Thinking of alternatives and how are they valued proactively is nothing but speculation since it is known how much of a fair value each inherit...

You can't just inflate in substance the protocol, because inital value comes from tech, time, and energy invested in each of the subcoins... just like silver or platinum didn't inflated gold, for each a labor input is required...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment CH1
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A currency backed by precious metals, requiring honest work to produce more of it - is what this ape-covered ball of dirt needs.

They've been around since 1998, and you've evidently never touched them.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 23:20 | Link to Comment LongBallsShortBrains
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Tit coin?

Zit coin?

Pit coin?

Clit coin?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment CH1
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Bitcoin is no different than the Federal Reserve

I nominate this for the most ignorant post of the day.

Why are you posting when you have no clue?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 22:58 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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If the Gov Trolls are gonna trawl & spew here, they could at least use their stage name, like Baghdad Bob.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 01:24 | Link to Comment Curiously_Crazy
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Don't worry. If I had a dollar (or btc) for every post I've read on precious metals boards with someone stating the evils of bitcoin as rabidly as a religious nutter, only admit they had no idea of how it operates some 50 posts down the line and that it's not such a bad idea I'd be a rich man.

Ironically these same people then often end up not only buying btc but also buying bloody mining rigs too.

Bought my first ones under a cent each and have spent and rebought many a time since then. So no I'm definitely not in it for the 'fad factor' and nor am I in them to make money.

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:07 | Link to Comment slightlyskeptical
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Bitcoins need to monetized if you have them.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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I don't know who I want to shit on more, Denninger or Bitcoin.  At lest Bitcoin has good intentions.  Therefore, Denninger should be forced to eat my shit today.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:23 | Link to Comment Mr. Magoo
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"FUCK BITCOIN" I will keep my gold, silver and storeable food and my many talents to barter with, when an EMP attack comes your precious bitcoin will be worthless but I will still have all my physical assets unless of course I am dead then it wont matter anymore and I will be a true zero-hedger which says "On a long enough timeline the survival rate for EVERYONE drops to 0"

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Q:  You can sell your AU for bitcoin in place A, and buy it with bitcoin in place B.  Where A and B can be anywhere on the planet.  For ANY amount that you decide or can afford.  How good and secure are you at doing the same with your bullion transport? No, didn't think so, Einstein.

Facts and Cognitive Dissonance is a real bitch, isn't it?  People are such fucking liars when they claim to "want the truth".  Bullshit!!!  What they really want is "the truth that is consistent with their world view".  God help the SOB who challenges their world-view.  That's like challenging their religion.  They will respond emotionally (regression, aggression).  Classic psychology 101 in action.

Gotta love the Psy Ops peons in action.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 00:43 | Link to Comment daveO
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Name calling always shows your ignorance. Silver and gold are tradeable in the 'real' world. Even if metals and bitcoins are outlawed by the gov., I can still barter w/ metal locally out of view of the Feds. There is an astronomical amount of illegal drugs being traded locally, but very few being traded online, for obvious reasons.  

Proud Peon.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 17:20 | Link to Comment TraderTimm
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Karl also took a steamy dump on owning Gold. And this was before the prices exploded. Not much of a 'oracle', is he?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment mt paul
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denninger is  a sheep

 

he still believes 911

was building collaspe, due to fire...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment FreeNewEnergy
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I'm not sure about Bitcoin, as I find it difficult to understand, and anything I don't understand I usually won't deal in. Gold is good, but difficult to use as a currency; silver is better, but still not widely used, though the PMs are a great store of value.

For purposes of what some may call arbitrage, I have been paying cash for soft porn magazines and videos and turning them over on ebay and elsewhere.

If it's not a currency, it's close. Has some store of value and a generally accepted exchange rate, i.e. A June 1998 Playboy magazine can generally be bought in bulk for under 50 cents and sold for $3 or more (even better outside the US). Other magazine in the same genre exhibit similar patterns.

It's not perfect, but, in addition to the obvious excellent mark-ups, there are great articles and excellent photography which people will pay for with good money.

My point - whatever it is I'm trying to get at - is that there are a lot of "currencies" around in which a savvy entrepreneur can make markets. Choose wisely, find a somewhat commoditized market with availability on one end and resale value on the other and the world's your oyster, no matter which currency one uses.

Good luck. We'll all need it.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 00:44 | Link to Comment daveO
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Barter, the original trade.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 07:40 | Link to Comment ManOfBliss
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Bitcoin is very easy to understand. There are just very few good tutorials on how it works.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment Mike in GA
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Count me as a sheep then, I watched it burn.  What did I miss?

Okay, that was rhetorical.  I really don't want to hear the wacko theory again that Bush and Cheney and their evil henchmen plotted to BLOW UP THE TWO BIGGEST SKYSCRAPERS IN NYC UNDER COVER OF A CONVENIENT 4 HIJACKED AIRLINER ATTACK.

please?

Okay, I'm all better now.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 08:04 | Link to Comment PrintemDano
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I'm with youMike in GA.  9/11 conspiracy nuts are illogical and irrational.  There are enough horrible things on this planet without making shit up. 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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You just can't deny those last 2 statements, and they show it's all but a democratic currency.

Besides, all I hear from its supporters it's not about its trading qualities, but the (fantastic) gains expected from hoarding it.

And it's lack of granularity/volume/value means it can't be even used as a currency replacement, let alone wealth preservation (unlike gold, etc.) - just try converting your bank account into it; heck, try with an entire nation's deposits (Cyprus, anyone?)...

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:57 | Link to Comment Passage
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With the potential of more BAIL-INs bank levy in Europe, the World's de facto reserve currency and gold will both appreciate against the rest of the world.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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Following the same line as Tyler's article above, but out to the max

The latest fire and brimstone from the terrific Jim Willie ... the US economic and 'reserve currency' hegemony about to collapse, and even their traditional UK poodle about to dump them

How the BRICS and the whole rest of the world will be 'financing' infrastructure and investments via dumping their US Treasury bonds back via London to the US ... where the UST bonds will g home to 'die'

How the Saudis are about to dump the Petro-Dollar in favour of joining with Russia-China

How Germany is in a tug-of-war between two factions, pro-US (Merkel etc.) and pro-Eastern ... and the latter faction will win, splitting Germany away from the US and join China-Russia, maybe right about when the euro-zone breaks up

How even the UK has already begun the switch away from the USA, to try and be a finance centre for EurAsia

Always great reading with his unique vision of dollar-apocalypse

Jim Willie, 'US Dollar: Ring-Fenced and Chekmate'

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1364601600.php

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment knukles
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Ring Fence
Another sophist imaginary condition given a technocrats word to assure the plebs al be well
Like talking about smelly Camembert as if it would have some dramatic effect on the world

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Yeah no shit. And "is it the yuan or the renminbi anyways"? I laugh at the idea that convertibility even exists. I think the correct headline is "Australia kow-tows to that other worthless piece of paper." I laugh at people thinking I'm a big fan of the bucky. The whole thing is crap if it ain't backed by gold. "project throw them all under the bus" proceeds apace.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment WmMcK
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Long (Fuller) Bucky Balls.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment JOYFUL
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Jim's got everything pretty much down right...

except for the Saudi thing. If you pay attention, you notice that he never mentions Israel by name, and stays right away from the whole sionist angle(except for the odd elliptical clue!)...it's clear that he, like ZH, and most probably everbody else who comes too close to calling a spade a 'spade' gets a message to tone it down...

if this were not true, he would have done his usual good homework, and know that the Saudis are in with the sionists to the bitter end...or regime change.

And since SAUDI REGIME CHANGE will spell the end of sionist hegemony, you can bet they will give all their attention to preventing that from happening...any time soon.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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I like people who think clearly...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 17:15 | Link to Comment TwoHoot
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"Jim's got everything pretty much down right ..."

EXCEPT

he forgot to mention that the Chinese yaun is tied to the US$.

Until the Chinese currency is allowed to float freely against the US$, all BRIC reserve schemes simply prepetuate the status quo.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment noless
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The article you are commenting on is detailing the end of that peg.

The free float (all that usd coming home) would expose whose economy is truly "expanding".

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment reload
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Well - It was interesting that last year, very suddenly, after the City of London announced an agreement with Bejing to start trading and settlement in Yuan the Federal authorities and SEC got heavy handed with the British banks - Standard and HSBC, the British banks that have the closest ties to Asia and China.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment NaiLib
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"bank guy " ... this simple quote from you tell us that you apparently know very little about much, " pro-US (Merkel etc.)" . You have to study history before writing such utter nonsense.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment css1971
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How the Saudis are about to dump the Petro-Dollar in favour of joining with Russia-China

This is the lynchpin. While the world still has to buy oil in dollars the dollar will be widely accepted.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 18:03 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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Compare the volume of paper gold traded to physical gold traded...

Compare the volume of paper oil traded to physical oil traded...

While the producers can demand a different settlement currency, TPTB (bankers) can effect the same change and to greater degree themselves.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment short screwed
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At least we lasted longer than the Dutch.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Fuck Yeah!

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment DutchR
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Have fun, i'm sure we did ;)

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment Athenian
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What I'd like to know is whether and if so, how, decisions like this between Australia and China affects the Hong Kong dollar peg to the USD.  Is the peg more likely to hold for a longer period or is the demise of the peg imminent?

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment orez65
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The "reserve currency" is supposed to be backed by gold.

When the Chinese back the Yuan with gold expect hyperinflation in the US.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Passage
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The locals don't trust yuan and would rather hide them in offshore currencies or properties because the Chinese printed much more than US, relative to economic size in the past five years. Just look at the amount of money they pumped into the rails and banks to finance municipal bonds and state-owned enterprises debts.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment dognamedabu
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A major factor was the import of FRNs. IE Apple sends Foxconn USD and then Foxconn goes to bank in China to convert into Yuan to pay suppliers, wages ect. The more USD printed the more inflation in the exporting nations. Hence a good reason for China to deal in other currencies which are not as diluted. 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment thefedisscam
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Chinese do not trust Yuan? What are you smoking? ALL smart Chinese have DUMPED their US$ and converted to Yuan years ago! And a lot of them buying up condos, and making Millions.

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Passage
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Buying gold is to keep yuan weakened. They are importing gold through their proxies in HK to reduce trade surpluses to limit yuan upside pressure.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment Solarman
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Try getting their gold by selling them back their Yuans.  Also, is China ready to become the worlds largest importer?  

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:43 | Link to Comment thefedisscam
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NO.  China DO NOT allow exporting of their gold. Plus, China is #1 Gold producer now, if I remember correctly. 600+ tons annually. If they really desperate about gold, they can force most of manufacturers and jewelry producers go to the international market for their needs, and buy ALL the gold produced domestically. that alone will be 6000+ tons in 10 years.

In Chinese calendar, 10 years is NOT a long time.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment e-recep
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the reserve currency has to be backed by a mighty army, as well.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:51 | Link to Comment DosZap
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the reserve currency has to be backed by a mighty army, as well.

 

 

In 1960, China could field an army of 250 million troops........wonder how many now.

Plus our traitorus POTUS's have given them the keys to the kingdom.

No later than the mid 90's, they did not have the capability of using nukes against anything but the West coast, and likely not able to target squat with any degree of accuracy with their ICBM's.

So what do we do?.

The Chief Whore in Chief GAVE them access to our CRAY SUPERCOMPUTERS.(you know the cigar dude).

They quickly gained access to accuray to hit ANY US city at will.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment Frastric
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All hail our Chinese overlords!

It also explains why they're buying up so much gold; gold-backed Yuan?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment midtowng
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China still has to dump the dollar peg before it ever hopes to become a reserve currency

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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They don't want to be reserve currency...they want SDRs with them as a basket component (they've published as much before).

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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and 99.9% of the US sheeplery have no clue what is happening right before their "honey boo boo" fixated eyes.....

oh well, a deserving end to a nation of willing debt coupon dollar slaves....

to the rest of us - KEEP STACKING THE ONLY TWO FORMS OF REAL MONEY....

FUCK YOU WITH ALL MY HEART AND SOUL BERNANKE.............

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment TheProphet
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Exactly. Do you think it was an accident it was announced on Easter weekend?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Debeachesand Je...
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Good observation.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:56 | Link to Comment YuShun
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during the Elite Eight games

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment DutchR
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REAL MONEY

Tools , right?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Go Tribe
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Leave Honey Boo Boo out of this! She's done more for America than Bernanke.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:07 | Link to Comment DavidC
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Does anyone know if those previous reserve currencies were all backed by Gold?

DavidC

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment orez65
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Spain's was gold and silver.

Silver "Pieces of Eight" were widely used in the US after the revolutionary war.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Passage
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Yeah and everyone started to speak Spanish, the most widely spoken language back then.

Ok, the Aussies can start to learn Chinese.

Oppsssss, i forgot the former Prime Minister was already able to.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Stuntgirl
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They weren't backed by gold. They wereall made of gold or silver.

When you buy gold coins in Europe, mostly it is those coins you are buying, up to Duch guilders and English sovereigns, apart from the newly-minted ounce-referenced euro coins.

My grandma dealt in silver spanish "duros" until the civil war.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:49 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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All of them until the temptation of either adulteration or paper

manipulation were succumbed to.

The story is the same thru' history, once the gold standard is tampered with,

the end is is nigh(in historical terms).The dollar has been on borrowed time since

the Nixon shock.If you had not noticed its the whole world ganging up against the

dollar now.Even the BoE has a yuan swap line.

Tick tock.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 10:12 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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The tricky Dick will be remembered for his Dick trick with gold

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Paracelsus
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Years ago ('98?) the RBA,Central bank for Australia,sold off a third of its gold supply to help out the Yanks.They said at the time it was for reduction of storage costs (etc.).Nobody believed them but most Aussies care more about the cricket scores than what some public service plonker is up to.This sale was when gold was about $350 an ounce. This was all about manipulation of the PM's price on a global level and the Aussies were only doing what they were told (or else). The Aussies helped out in Vietnam,Malaya (the Brits),the Gulf 1&2,Afghanistan,etc. but are now getting restless with the timeline of the USA wars for democracy. (Australia has a lot of muslims who are hard workers,but get excitable when they see muslim countries getting bombed flat).

This convertability issue is not unexpected,but I think things are moving so fast now that the spin-doctors must be having a rough time of it.  Thanks Yanks,don't let the door hit ya....

If anyone thinks Australia is still a sovereign country,try going hiking around the Alice Springs "Pine Gap" facility and see what happens next.... BooHooo.... 

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:40 | Link to Comment DosZap
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(Australia has a lot of muslims who are hard workers,but get excitable when they see muslim countries getting bombed flat).

Austrailia is the ONLY country with a nutsack when it comes to cowtowing to ANY Muslim BS.

They were told explicitly by the head knocker, either abide by OUR laws,or we will deport ALL of you.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Rossalgondamer
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then New Zealand should make ready for Shock-N-Awe.

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment Passage
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The Chinese loves NZ's milk powder.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment knukles
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To which thy add poisonous shit (melamine) for reexport.
Like cutting the smack with Draino

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment chubbyjjfong
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Kim Dot Com will sort it all out for them I'm sure.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Tortuga
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Great. This will all turn out well. The worlds champions of fleecing their sheeple, jealous of the Western fleecers, are going to form pacts, to fleece each other. Australia doesn't have a chance. The chinese have been fleecing each other for 1000's of years and will bring that experience under the table. 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment short screwed
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Silly Chi-coms.  Putting their faith an archaic metal like gold when they could keep plowing all of their cash into something safe like Treasuries.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Charles Wilson
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"Capital is international."

- Marx

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment rodocostarica
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Why has this all taken so long to implement? Seems so logical to me to have full conversion.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Passage
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That means the branch of a Chinese bank in Australia or native Australian bank(less likely) will be appointed as the offshore yuan-settlement financial institution soon.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment ekm
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Let me repeat it again.

When money created is EXCESSIVELY EXCESSIVE then only two optins remain:

 

1) Hyperinflation if the money is ACCEPTED

2) Reduction of INTERNATIONAL trade if the money is NOT ACCEPTED, until total collapse of trade.

 

The 2nd is unfolding slowly but steadily. Countries have started to refuse to exchange dollars with goods, hence refusing to trade with USA.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment Solarman
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No problem, I look forward to trading my wheat for their gold.  They can keep all of their other crap.  People are missing the next revolution in robotic manufacturing.  China is stuck, they only have cheap people, and three month lead times on orders, and when you can create a factory with few people, and produce two week lead times, and no one stealing your IP, good luck to them.

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Austrailia would have been exporting to the US if the treasonous traitor M'F'in M'Fking middlemen vermin bankster's and their scumbag Federal Senate politician Morons hadn't helped China pollute the planet with its cheap toxic selling fucking junk to the US Wallmart garbage and fuck Bernanke too.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment Silver Garbage Man
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This trend will not stop. The petrodollar is in a terminal phase. Plan accordingly. Hint .....be prepared to look after yourself.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment NoWayJose
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The amazing thing is that my PMs are going to retain their value against the Chin-Aussie currency while my fiat US dollars fade back to the value of toilet paper.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment JLee2027
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Doubtful any fiat currency is going to survive what's coming. 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:05 | Link to Comment spinone
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At least toilet paper is absorbant.  Ever actually try to wipe your ass with a dollar?  No one will trade their toilet paper for dollars if things go Weinmar.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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All eyes should be on Saudi Arabia.

This move on the chess board is not in isolation.

King dollar is in check ,Saudi is mate.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:42 | Link to Comment ekm
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Correct. Saudis are at the top of table right now.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment DutchR
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You mean like they are going to announce that Ghawar peaked, 

 

end of line...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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No.

That they are not going to take, soon to be worthless paper,  in exchange for

their real declining assets.

The mirage of energy independace in the US is exactly that,

when you look into the details.

The third leg of dollar hegemony is Saudi.The US military is another and is incapabable

of fighting a conventional world war ,even if the US could afford it,which it cannot.

We have two legged stool being held up by bluff ,and the Saudi's.

The bluff was called last week in Durban.Australia is just reading the writing on the wall.

If you cannot see that 2 foot high writing, and save yourself, tough shit.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment DutchR
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Fifth Fleet is a big pawn, a knight maybe.

 

US/Saudi go a long way back (i dare to say no US no Saudi) but who knows, maybe they don't like their nuclear umbrella anymore.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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The US navy is still planning for Midway.

Time have changed , Admirals rarely do,until after a catasrophe.

The Saudi's are pragmatic ,not at all their stereotype.

Russia, and China have umbrellas and gold..

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment DutchR
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You don't think they learned something during Millennium Challenge 2002?

 

For now the US is the big dog, but like they say, past performance is no guarantee of future results.

 

Empires die slow (mostly).

 

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment spinone
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmtE6Zgd-kc

Dong-Fong successfully tested in Gobi Desert

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:27 | Link to Comment DutchR
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Thanks, interesting video.

 

So drones it will be....

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 16:27 | Link to Comment DutchR
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dub

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71qgI6bddM8

Note the dates... Chinese propaganda bullshit 2013, successful and _independently verified_ Aegis Satellite intercept 2008.

The microsecond China tries a stupid stunt like this a) their craptastic missiles will be shot down, b) Three Gorges will be swarmed with cruise missile attacks, c) a few million Chinese citizens get to learn to be Olympic swimmers or die trying.

I lose sleep at night over many things, the Chinese being even remotely capable of taking out a carrier group isn't one of them.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Look, bottom line on Saudi Arabia.  That government serves at the whim of America's military.  If America wants the Saudi royal families heads on pikes, on pikes they go.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment The Dancer
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Once they have all their positions lined up, I expect to see a collapse not too far in the distance...killing two birds with one stone...crushing Russia under $30-$50 crude and giving China a few million problems to worry about at home. And of course war will have to take it's place in this picture. That's how I see it from over here in SEA.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Australia may well save in transactional costs but it will still have to find takers for the excess Yuan it takes in.

I am against the accumulation of any reserves unless it is in gold and silver.

The Chinese now have in excess of 4500 tonnes in gold according to a Chinese contact.

The sooner the world starts netting off their import/export transactions with gold, the sooner that balance and sanity will return to the world and will in fact encourage more trade.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment ekm
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There's plenty of chinese slave labor to use the yuan for. They're not keeping yuans in reserve.

It's basically INTERNATIONAL BARTER bypassing USD.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:26 | Link to Comment defencev
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And who do you think you are to dictate Chinese what they should or should not do? It is quite obvious for me that it is high time to accumulate renminbi (and now it is quite easy by opening banking account in HK where Renminbi is fully convertible). Renmbinbi

is going to be the next reserve currency. Everuthing else is pure shit.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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All fiat is eventually shit and if fiat reflects the economic, social and political health of a nation, then the renminbi is every bit a piece of shit as its US counterpart the dollar.

Just remember, do you really want a currency that is not backed by freedom of speech and democracy but which is backed by cheap labour, 64 million empty apartments, terrible levels of air pollution, bad debts, a huge and shaky banking system?

China has made some incredible progress in coming out of a communist economy but at the same time it has some real time bombs of its own.

I don't invest in time bombs.

Just look around Sydney and see how much Chinese money is going into real estate. The Chinese who can are fleeing China.  

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 00:50 | Link to Comment Cthonic
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Fleeing?  Colonization.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Mike in GA
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Does this mark another ratcheting-up of probablity (maybe inevitability) of hyperinflation in the US as $ demand is reduced?

But, on further reflection, the sheer number of paper dollars (those $100 bills C.H.Smith wrote about here:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-03-27/guest-post-tailwinds-pushing-us-dollar-higher) is much less than the digitally printed dollars today so, what will the effect be?

This currency behavior is beyond my ability to figure out but I would like to try to understand a lttle more of it.  It seems like the USD blow-up will be the last big hurrah of the America that was before we enter the promised land that is to be under NWO.  I'd just like a little heads up, that's all.

We've gone from a country firing on all cylinders to a sputtering, halting inability to get a damn thing done.  And the $ is being eroded like a beach in a tropical storm.  Hurricane force will wash us out to sea.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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You are over complicating I think.

We are talking about maybe a 75% devaluation in ALL  USD's overnight,

and concurrent hyper biflation from there.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment ekm
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Hyperinflation occurs only when the money makes it into the FINISHED products real market, daily exchange of goods and services.

 

What is happening that the excessively excessive money:

1) Has gone for commodities hence commodities are in hyperinflation, hence very high inputs costs, shortage of energy etc.

2) And the rest is simply NOT ACCEPTED for INTERNATIONAL TRADE and stays in "reserves". 

 

Bernanke says that "we're not printing money, we're creating reserves".

So let's ask the question: Why is the money still in reserves? The purpose of money is to be used for exchanging goods and services, right?

 

Answer: The money is in reserve because nobody wants to use that money, it's a rejection of USD, in practice.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment negative rates
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I think he's stuck in a swamp, and it's move it or lose it time.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment sosoome
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I'm not smart enough to answer your questions, but I do know that thinkers must calculate the difference between paper and digital dollars, as you wisely point out. Surely, it will impact historical outcome precedents.

What I do know is in Cyprus at present, there is a high demand for currency, and very short supply. Those who had assets in hard cash, rather than in the banks, are sitting pretty.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment The Dancer
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Don't forget one thing...a 75% devaluation would make the US the most competitive exporting machine in the world....this whole thing will be super dynamic...it's all relative, as Mr. Einstein said....not stagnant...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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True, but the twenty five years or so in transition , will not be pleasant.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 17:22 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
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If US manufacturing were its own stand-alone economy, it'd be the eighth largest economy in the world. Imagine what it would be if the US actually buckled down and started trying. Food for thought.

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment PrintemDano
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Buckle down?  This is the land of the free Obama Phone.  There will be NO buckling down anytime soon.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment bankonzhongguo
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The US and China are at war, only the US does not know it yet.

This is what happens when you raise a generation of know-nothings on Xbox and cartoons while exporting industry and subsidize fungible illegal labor.

The Plan is for the US to become China.

The US deserves what it gets.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 17:12 | Link to Comment DanDaley
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Helps explain the Mao Tse Tung Christmas card on the White-House Christmas tree 3 years ago...it's been a goal for quite some time.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment Quaderratic Probing
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renminbi (RMB)is being printed just as fast as the USD to keep the PEG. If China de-pegs the RMB will climb till they can't sell anything.( then no need for iron ore )

The only thing happening here is the savings in exchange costs on perpetual sales.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment css1971
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I was thinking of Chinese government bonds for exactly this reason. With the peg, which has been static for a year, they are effectively US Treasuries which pay a higher interest rate.

Without the peg which way does the RMB go?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment YuShun
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If China, Japan, Europe, & England are all printing about as fast as the USA,
then is it not incorrect to think of the USD as the sole reserve currency?

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment The Dancer
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This how I see it....it looks to me like it's going to be the Jews of the Occident vs. the Jews of the Orient(as the Chinese are sometimes called)...pick your side and lay down your bets...I know one thing, "these boys" that have been running the show for hundreds of years are not going to give up control of planet Earth without a fight to the end...

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment grunk
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I suddenly have a hankering for a vegamite sandwich and some wonton soup.

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment DutchR
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Good, you are keeping it real :)

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Who Laughed
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haha merica go straya

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment H E D G E H O G
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WTF. China, India, Pakistan, etc., etc., etc., are hoarding gold and silver BY THE TONS, shoring up their future world reserve currency. Nations like Iran, China, and now Australia are skipping the FRN for an exchange rate in their soveirgn currencies. The USA, under the thumb of a non government entity, a private money making enterprise of global proportions, in the 'Federal Reserve" cabal, is flodding the world with ever devalued paper. This just didn't happen folks, it's fucking been going on for years now, and by the time the sheeple awake one morning to realize WE'RE NOT the King of the Mountaintop any more, well, to put it as eloquently as possible, we're/you/they/me are going to be up SHIT CREEK without the proverbial fucking paddle. Who could've possibly seen this coming will be echoed through the halls of Congress, and the elusively dumbass WhiteHouse. jeeez....

Sun, 03/31/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment alfbell
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Lots of opinions here on what this all means. Doesn't help an economics challenged individual like myself determine whether this Aus/China agreement has any real significance or not. Oh well.

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