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Gun Control? - How To "3D-Print" A Semi-Automatic Rifle

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As the furor over gun control fades from the front pages - and therefore from politicians need to actively participate en masse - it appears there is a rather large loophole that could change things considerably. As this clip shows, Cody R Wilson, a 25 year old University of Texas Law student, has figured out how to print a semi-automatic rifle from the comfort of his own home. Wilson is an advocate for the open source production of firearms using 3D printing technology and it is forcing the US legal system to catch up and control this new technology. From the constitution to the legal system and from the manufacture and test-firing of 3D-printed gun, this clip is intriguing to say the least.

 

 

 

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Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:16 | 3396391 Squishi
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rapidfireaim

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:20 | 3396414 prains
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i thought he'd only figured out how to print the larger clip (see white piece in pic) as there is not yet strong enough composites than can accurately print the barrel to withstand the forces of accurately and safely firing a bullet.

So he might be able to print a gun but the barrel can't be printed from what I've been told

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:33 | 3396470 MiguelitoRaton
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Please print one in full auto for me ;-)

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:50 | 3396527 Urban Redneck
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Not unless you first invent a time machine that can go pre-1986, when Shrub Sr. closed the Register to new additions...

Or elect a President who with the stroke of an auto-pen demands that the National Firearms Registry be opened to new manufactures/conversions.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:53 | 3396533 Pladizow
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Disarmament is a prelude to genocide!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:18 | 3396599 FEDbuster
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Cody Wilson is really fun to listen to.  He has been interviewed by Glenn Beck and Alex Jones.  Very smart kid, who knows exactly how important this work is.  Ben prints fiat currency with his computer, Cody prints lead delivery systems with his.

BTW that looks pretty real at his website, looks like Big Brother is putting the boot on Cody's head.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:21 | 3396622 DaddyO
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Jackboots of the digital variety!?!

DaddyO

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:36 | 3396670 DoChenRollingBearing
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Really cool guns & ammo website run by robots:

http://gunbot.net/

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:49 | 3396732 Buckaroo Banzai
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Great tool. Gives you a very clear idea at any given time what the current market price is for various calibers. Ammo at "below market" prices gets cleared within hours, sometimes even minutes.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:52 | 3396744 Headbanger
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THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:50 | 3396992 DaddyO
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It appears that the down arrow bot has come through and marked all of us...

DaddyO

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:32 | 3397177 DoChenRollingBearing
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Indeed.  Waaa, waaa!  It hurts so much!  Make it stop!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 17:35 | 3397385 MagicHandPuppet
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Google 'defcad mirror' to take a deeper look.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:27 | 3396643 Buckaroo Banzai
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Who needs a 3-D printer? A good CNC machine can produce an AR-15 lower from aluminum billet with virtually no human intervention required.

In California, a lot of gun clubs have "CNC parties" where they rent a CNC machine for a night and everyone makes their own AR-15 lower. You are given an instruction sheet on which buttons to push on the CNC machine, and voila, you have just made your own AR-15. The ATF has no jurisdiction on any non-NFA firearm that you manufacture yourself for personal use.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:37 | 3396671 FEDbuster
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Finally, a party I would look forward to going to.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:54 | 3396753 Zymurguy
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Disclaimer:  State laws may vary.  Consult your state and local firearms laws/regulations to find out if making your own gun is right for you.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:57 | 3396759 Pool Shark
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"The ATF has no jurisdiction on any non-NFA firearm that you manufacture yourself for personal use."

Unfortunately, California does:

California Penal Code section 30600(a).

Punishable by up to 8 years.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:22 | 3396868 ALPO
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30600(a) applies to assault weapons and .50 BMG rifles. It does not apply to lower receivers.  A lower receiver is not an assault weapon under California law.

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 18:30 | 3397553 kaiserhoff
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Thanks to all above for the updates.  This is more than a little overblown.  No serious shooter defines his ammo clip as his "gun."  That's an artifact of some really strange regulation.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 20:17 | 3397821 beentheredonethat
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the price of the 3d printing is declining 20% a year - you can build them out of semiconductor lasers. the cost of a cnc machine is increasing 5-10% (made up but directionally correct). In 10 years the economics will be vastly different

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:07 | 3396582 fourchan
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no ar15 was used at sandy hook.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:20 | 3396616 Buckaroo Banzai
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Bingo. The coroner who handled the Newtown shooting has quietly resigned. You may have missed that story in the news. Oh wait I forgot, there was no way you could have read that-- because it wasn't reported.

Scuttlebutt in western CT is, he was told to lie, and resigned because he couldn't live with that.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 17:01 | 3397276 currencywar
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Scuttlebutt in western CT is, he was told to lie, and resigned because he couldn't live with that.

Buckaroo,

 

What do you mean that he was told to lie? 

Sorry that I am not up on all the nuances on Newtown.

 

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:50 | 3396735 A Nanny Moose
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Thank you!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:56 | 3396757 Headbanger
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Sandy Hook conspiracy theories videos.  (I doubt them but they're out there)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrngdgUixYg&bpctr=1364844336

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:15 | 3396596 zuuma
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"..that can go pre-1986, when Shrub Sr. closed the Register to new additions"

That would be Bonzo.

Shrub sr. wasn't innaugurated Until Jan 1989.

 

Also, for reference, it was the Hughe(sp?) amendment, signed by Bonzo on May 19th, 1986.

Register still open for SBRs, SBSs, & suppressors

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:00 | 3397024 Urban Redneck
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My bad- Shrub was the import ban, three huge binders of ATF reference letters sometimes render my few brain cells which don't have focus avoiding federal entrapment forgetful as to which fascist masqerading as a conservative was responsible for which headache... 

If only bankers had to comply with the same level of crap government oversight gun owners do, or face the same penalties...

Or it could be the holiday feldschlössen...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:50 | 3396521 hedgeless_horseman
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If only we could print courage, knowledge, honesty, love, time, and compassion.

Wrong link, sorry.  Here is the correct link:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-01-24/will-you-pay-kid-read-12-books-your-selection

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:53 | 3396746 skistroni
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These should be the absolute prerequisites for owning a gun. Humanity as an attitude was there before guns and governments, and it will be there after them too. This is what I missed in Cody's talks, no sign of that anywhere, and therefore no transference of hope. But we are so far from our human nature that we might employ a government agency to measure these things, which would be worse than a hot day in hell. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:01 | 3396774 Headbanger
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Humanity as an attitude before guns and government!!??

NOT!  Humans have been slaying each other even before swords, bows, spears and rocks!

They used bones!  Watch the beginning of 2001 Space Odyssey.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:34 | 3397184 skistroni
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You mean it is so, because you saw it in the movies? What depth!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:35 | 3396665 RafterManFMJ
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If only we could print courage, knowledge, honesty, love, time, and compassion.

 

We can't print them yet, but we can ferment, distill and drink them.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:47 | 3396974 Lordflin
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It is already in print, it is called God's word...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 20:41 | 3397873 THX 1178
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Yer a fucking childhood brainwashing victim.

Tue, 04/02/2013 - 00:55 | 3397965 Lordflin
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Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:32 | 3396472 DoChenRollingBearing
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prains

That is my understanding as well.

But, I presume the technology will advance rapidly,  Once we can 3-D print them, then "Molon Labe" will become moot.  Molon Labe my Printer!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:34 | 3396475 MachoMan
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Printing isn't the only issue...  it also needs to be durable enough to withstand combat conditions.  There are plenty of polymer lowers on the market...  handguards, triggers, accessories...  hell, even back up sights.  But for the "working" parts of virtually any gun, you'll want something a little more robust.

That said, these can serve as limited fire weapons (i.e. <10 shots)...  and practically be distributed everywhere...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:48 | 3396518 ParkAveFlasher
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For 1-time use, I think it's OK.  wink wink

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:57 | 3396549 Harbanger
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3D printing has some limitations.  Mainly that the material used has to be some form of plastic that will harden after it's applied.  But I suppose in theory you can use some form of micro welder to build on layers of melted metal.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:07 | 3396574 xtop23
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Powdered brass

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:15 | 3396600 Harbanger
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Right now they use a urethane to bind it.  But use a laser to melt it on as it's appllied and yea, maybe.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:57 | 3396755 A Nanny Moose
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The materials science just needs to catch up to the idea. Give it time.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:05 | 3396796 Pool Shark
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"3D printing has some limitations."

Exactly.

Wake me up when you can 'print' barrels and bolts.

While currently, the ATF and most states regulate 'firearms' by regulating the receiver; they could easily get around 'printed' receivers by simply banning ALL firearms components (including barrels, bolts, trigger sears, etc...

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:09 | 3396809 dtwn
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It's called selective laser sintering.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_laser_sintering

Been out there for a while.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:53 | 3397006 noless
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why isn't this more commonplace? Are the input materials prohibitively expensive?

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:23 | 3397141 tmosley
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The device uses a high power laser to melt metal powder.  That is the expensive part--there's no getting around that expense absent a radical advance in laser technology.

IIRC, the device goes for a minimum of US$300,000.  Don't know about the cost of the material.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:42 | 3396947 noless
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A workable 3d printer for metal world utilize a powdered metal with flux applied in a misted form, and several lasers mounted on several axis, so as to apply triangulated heat, each laser given full mobility.

Either that or develop a mini computerised tig set up. The key issues however revolve around controlling applied amperage in relation to work heat, also necessary issues to be addressed involving dig, and flow angles. there is a reason why people still pay my hands to weld, because electrically short circuiting metal together is difficult, and has innumerable factors which often times evade description even by the most experienced.

You would be better off going cnc right now, but i have faith that this process can be achieved.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:36 | 3396481 Osmium
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He just needs to be able to print the lower for the AR.  The lower is the part of the firearm that is licensed.  He can they buy a complete upper that would have the barrel.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:07 | 3396581 aerojet
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Have you attempted to buy a complete upper or even a barrel lately?  They are not to be found.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:33 | 3396658 MachoMan
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The craze is easing lately...  starting to be more ammo deals, magazine deals, and even upper deals...  hell, PSA has been pumping out lowers and even BCG...  I haven't seen a freaking deal on a BCG in forever...  got lucky before the craze and score a BCM BCG...  so far, no a single ftf fte or other hiccup in a hundred rounds...  another 400 and it will be declared gtg.

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:07 | 3396803 Pool Shark
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Yeah, but unless it's an AR-15 upper manufactured by LMT; I'm not interested.

[Lucky I got my LMT's years ago and take good care of them...]

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:12 | 3397092 MachoMan
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mil spec is mil spec as far as I'm concerned...  there are a LOT of really good rigs out there, LMT included...  that said, there is a lot of shit too, but even it is probably OK for range use.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 17:58 | 3397457 jvetter713
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I think you used the most abbreviations I have ever seen in a single post.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:43 | 3396505 twh99
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That is exactly true.

 Only clip designs have been put out in the public realm.  The plastics involved are perfectly fine for holding bullets (you still have to buy the spring for the clips) and other parts.  The minute you need to fire that bullet, the barrel and firing mechanism have to be metal.  There are no composites currently available for the 3-D printers that can withstand the forces involved.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:08 | 3396583 aerojet
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I'd be more interested in holding complete cartridges, the bullets are only one component...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:34 | 3396660 MachoMan
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or magazines instead of clips... 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:38 | 3396678 Headbanger
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Moon rings!!!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:52 | 3396532 El Oregonian
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If the Feds can print money debasing your wealth, then you should be able to print weapons in order to defend yours...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:55 | 3396544 Edelweiss
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Lower receivers have been printed.  That is what the ATF considers the "gun" to be regulated.  All of the other parts can be obtained without a license.  That's why the uproar in some circles.  Obviously you can't "print" a barrel, bolt, bolt carrier, etc.  A woman told me the other day it was possible to print an entire gun.  When I explained why that was not possible, she seemed more than a little skeptical, and gave me the "your one of those" looks.  The progressive media loves to misrepresent this kind of thing to stir the pot.  They, and many of their viewers continue to be willfully ignorant of the facts.  It isn't in the script I guess. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:05 | 3396572 Stoploss
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Albert:

You print the barrel, then sleeve it.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:10 | 3396588 aerojet
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Sleeve it with what?  You might do this for an air rifles or a .22, and maybe with some single-use, single-shot rifle, but that's about it.  The pressures involved in centerfire cartridges are too great to be fooling around like that.  I suppose technology might be at the level where you could print a metal barrel for a .25 or .380 caliber pistol, maybe.  I wouldn't fire it...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:20 | 3396857 bpj
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centerfire rifle chamber pressures approach, and some exceed, 50,000 psi. If the barrel isn't made of carbon steel I aint shooting it. There is a huge supply of barrel billets sitting in junkyards all over America, camshafts will work just fine.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:28 | 3396645 Archduke
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that's not the point.  the barrel isn't what's restricted under most firearms act.

the barrel is just a high tensile pice of steel with some fancy rifling, after all.

 

what's restricted is the receiver, firing pin bolt assembly and loading mechanism.

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:30 | 3396647 scattergood
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Barrels, hand guards, and stocks are not regulated nor do they require registration.

Lowers are regulated and require registration.  Recent laws focus on magazines as well but at the state level.

Thus he only needs to make a lower and a magazine, you can buy off the internet every other piece without trouble (if you can find them).

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:43 | 3396698 Wile-E-Coyote
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Agree the only components that could be made are passive items, frame, grip, butt etc. The barrel and bolt carrier etc would still have to be machined from metal. Hand guns might be easier to make.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:12 | 3396825 1100-TACTICAL-12
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He can print the magazine & lower recever @ present he's working on the barrell he was on Alex Jones couple weeks ago. he said the whole enchalada is a few months off, but will happen.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:42 | 3396948 Mox E
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He may not be able to print a barrel yet, but you can make one of those with a lathe which can then be assembled into parts you can print.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:28 | 3397161 TraderTimm
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And he's a supporter of bitcoin, so I'm sure we'll see some of his wares for sale in BTC soon. I'd love to see what they'll do once they get a metallic powder printer. Then all bets are off - working with quality stock and no casting defects.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:18 | 3396401 HulkHogan
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DDD

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:18 | 3396406 Sudden Debt
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TONERS READY!!!!!
FIRE!!!!!!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:32 | 3396430 francis_sawyer
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I'm seriously thinking about trying to get my neighbor or friend, to buy one of these 3D printers so that I can try it out for free & piggyback to see if it actually works as advertised across the spectrum of real life useful trinkets...

~~~

Can those 3-D printers printers print you up some bitcoins?... No ~ I guess not...

I guess that's the BITCOINERS master plan...

- Buy 100 bitcoins at $5 bucks & watch as they vault in price to $100

- Buy a couple of 3-D printers with the $10,000

- Start their RED DAWN army & stick it to the man wearing white outfits from the Colorado wilderness [nourished by frozen hotpockets cooked over a campfire (which ~ of course, the BAD GUYS never see)]

~~~

Why didn't I think of that?... IT'S SADLY TRUE [everything they say about francis_sawyer]... I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:46 | 3396513 ParkAveFlasher
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hot - pockets!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:37 | 3396675 MachoMan
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At this point, the printer would probably be much better suited for creating a giant veiny dildo or spork...  but AR lowers...  not so much.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:07 | 3396799 A Nanny Moose
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Doh! Paper Jam!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:19 | 3396408 blabam
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I like the evil music part. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:33 | 3396469 Headbanger
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Try this one for pure evil music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr04ZZemCWA

 

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:21 | 3396410 Croesus
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Something tells me he may have just been arrested....

http://www.infowars.com/april-fools-day-joke-feds-seize-3-d-printed-gun-...

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:26 | 3396441 redpill
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Please tell me you didn't really fall for that

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:29 | 3396459 Croesus
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@ Redpill: I'm not so sure it's a joke, sorry to say:

http://defensedistributed.com/

 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:33 | 3396468 redpill
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Saw "April Fools" in the link name, so I just figured.  If true, it sure didn't take them long.  

 

DHS:  Buys 1.6 BILLION rounds for "training" - no problem!

 

Man demonstrates capability of 3D printing:  Assets seized, terrorist!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:34 | 3396478 DoChenRollingBearing
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I wonder when they will figure out to 3-D print ammunition...  

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:22 | 3396623 FEDbuster
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Actually, it's probably pretty easy to print bullets, but you would still need primers, cases and black powder.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:15 | 3396602 Joe Davola
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Just like tax evasion was the downfall of Al Capone, "Copyright Infringement" will put an end to his scheme.  Fucker probably had a copy of DeCSS and was busily decrypting Bambi.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:27 | 3396448 Edward Fiatski
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Yep, but it's dated April 2nd.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.ca/2013/04/breaking-defense-distributed-website...

"Breaking: Defense Distributed website seized, Cody Wilson arrested on conspiracy charges!

Unknown details at this time. Defense Distributed website now displays the logos of Department of Justice and Homeland Security Investigations, and the following information:

 This domain name associated with the website DefenseDistributed.com or Defcad.org has been seized pursuant to an order issued by a U.S. District Court."

I watched the whole Vice doc a few days ago - pretty cool, if a bit unpractical, not to mention demeaning & degrading with respect to U.S. Constitution.

Oh, well - if the peasant wants, but can not get a firearm any other way, I suppose that is how a peasant acts in the face of the King.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:31 | 3396465 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Fake. Look at the DNS for the setup, it's a joke. Milking the free PR, as DHS knows you can have all the large clips you want, you just can't buy ammo to fill them. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:19 | 3396411 Sabibaby
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To bad you can't print bullets...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:22 | 3396423 Headbanger
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Damn!  And I was just about to scan in a full mag!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:58 | 3396545 ParkAveFlasher
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Yes, but you invent any sort of lethal mechanism, and manufacture it under the radar to industrial spec.  To me, thats the kicker. 

It could basically reduce the demand of imported cheap goods, and at the same time I could make myself a SWEEEET crossbow.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 20:25 | 3397835 Ludwig Van
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cf. asymmetrical warfare

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Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:15 | 3396605 aerojet
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There is nothing inherently difficult about making metallic cartridges.  The technology is over 100 years old, it is more about having access to the raw materials.  Smokeless powders have become pretty high-tech, but could be re-created.  The dangerous compounds needed for making primers is where the difficulty lies.  But since people make meth and all kinds of other awful shit, I don't see why making primers would really pose any problem except for obtaining the chemicals in large enough quantities.  The cases are stamped out of brass rod.  The bullets, at their simplest are cast lead alloys.  People are even making their owned copper-jacketed bullets.  It is not that horribly difficult. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:44 | 3396702 MachoMan
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There are plenty of polymer tipped bullets on the market...  I guess you COULD print bullets, but I'm not sure there would be any way of telling where the hell they would go when you shot them... 

Printed cases?  Not so much... 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:23 | 3396418 Headbanger
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Oh please.  What about all those little metal things like oh say

the bolt??  The firing pin??  And that long metal thingy called a chrome lined

rhight hand twist barrel????

Duh.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:28 | 3396451 css1971
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You can buy all those without a license.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:29 | 3396456 Headbanger
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Good catch!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:31 | 3396464 nmewn
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Yeah, the accuracy must be stunning after say...100rds.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:35 | 3396482 Headbanger
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LMAO.  I was just going to say that nylon or whatever reciever must

flex like hell and then blow up in his face.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:39 | 3396495 nmewn
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...and after a long day at the range the barrel converts to a long handle for ease of carry...if you don't shoot yourself in the foot first...lol.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:19 | 3396615 aerojet
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The receiver of an AR-15 is not a stressed part.  It doesn't even get hot under heavy fire.  The heat is all in the barrel, just ahead of the chamber, until it gets really hot, and you shouldn't beat on them like that, anyways.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:44 | 3396699 Headbanger
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Not true!  The recoil loads go through the receiver to the stock.

This is why you want a milled receiver versus a stamped one on

your next AK.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:48 | 3396723 MachoMan
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How often do stamped AKs fail?  What is the average lifespan?  Maybe 50,000 rounds?  The damn afghanis are fighting with stamped guns that are 50+ years old... 

That said, +1 for the SLR 101...  at cheaper than $1k for a new production, bulgarian milled gun, it's the best deal out there.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:11 | 3396822 Headbanger
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I didn't say they fail. I agree with you .  But watch a slo motion video of a stamped

reciever AK firing and it flexes a lot. The point being the recievers do take considerable

recoil loads and that's why a milled reciver is better.  Like a VZ-58 or Sig 556 (am I being too

snobby??) 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 16:09 | 3397081 MachoMan
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Also, given the proliferation of stamped guns, it's harder to find some parts for milled guns...  but, in the end, a stamped gun would do just fine and I'm not sure there is a practical difference between the two...  snobby, yes, but if your life depends on it, then you get to be snobby...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:48 | 3396726 Wile-E-Coyote
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I dare say you would have no face after one round.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:17 | 3396610 aerojet
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Fairly simple machined parts, some of which have to be hardened.  Any decent machinist can re-create that stuff, or simplified versions of it (think AR-18, AKM).

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:45 | 3396708 Headbanger
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If it were only so easy.  But a nice thought none the less.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:22 | 3396420 Son of Loki
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Damn Texans! Grabbing all that physical gold and wanting to set up their own Gold Bullion Bank as if they don't have any of that "Trust and Faith" thing..... and now this!

What's next?

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:30 | 3396458 McMolotov
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Ermahgerd! Terrrrists!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:22 | 3396422 Ivanovich
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See, you guys think the Bernank is all about printing currency.  What he's really doing is warming up for the endgame.  The print master will have the last laugh.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:26 | 3396438 natronic
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If you go to the website http://defensedistributed.com/  the feds have grabbed it.  Probably looted his bitcoins also.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:27 | 3396442 ziggy59
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Benny virtual printers Vs. 3D

Hes jealous, Im sure.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:32 | 3396657 FEDbuster
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Benny and the FED are busy buying up all the gold colored ABS 3D printing material.  Put the plastic ones in the back, and the tungsten filled bars up front, ok now take some pictures and send them to the Germans.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:30 | 3396462 MiguelitoRaton
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Where do I get the file to print it?

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:33 | 3396467 Meat Hammer
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Coming to a Silk Road near you.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:35 | 3396476 fnordfnordfnord
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Notice, http://www.defcad.org has been seized by DOJ / DHS. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:37 | 3396487 RSBriggs
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" is forcing the US legal system to catch up and control this new technology.".

That didn't take them very long, now did it?  And they could sieze the exchanges and disappear BitCoin just as easily....

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:03 | 3396785 MayIMommaDogFac...
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FWIW -- down in the comments on this one, there are some speculations about why this is being considered as likely to be an Apr Fools joke rather than a real takedown. 

http://ftp.dailypaul.com/280303/april-fools-go-to-cody-wilsons-defcadorg...

Not sure yet what I think...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:10 | 3396820 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Notice what you get if you go the .COM version of that domain:

http://www.defcad.com/

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:37 | 3396484 PUD
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gonna 3d print a phazer....fuck ur toy gunz

 

not puttin it on stun neither

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:47 | 3396517 Headbanger
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Good!  More ammo for the rest of us!

But let us know how it goes anyway cause we're notgoing to get any ammo anytime soon.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:53 | 3396537 ExpendableOne
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Use the printer to produce rail gun darts for the win!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:47 | 3396727 edifice
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I'll print a cup of earl grey tea, whilst saying, "Earl Grey. Hot."

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:44 | 3396508 ziggy59
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So no due process of law? No rights, nothing...Hes automatically guilty and will have to prove himself innocent.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 13:46 | 3396512 Quinvarius
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They always have to trash these stories with some stupidity about a nut who shot someone as if it adds some kind of balance or they are afraid not to.  How about adding that we would have won at the Alamo with these instead next time? 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:03 | 3396569 css1971
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A while back, P.A. Luty released plans for a fully automatic weapon made out of box section steel you can get in any DIY place.

You need some simple metalworking skills to make it but nothing beyond what you'd get in high school and the tools required are again, DIY level. There's a video on Youtube of someone making it, so at least 1 exists in the wild. 3D printing a gun might be marginally easier but if you're motivated then it's already possible.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:22 | 3396625 RSBriggs
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That's pretty much the point of AK-47's - it doesn't require high tech machine tools to crank them out - they require about the same high school level of expertise.    Um - from the days when high schools used to have things like metal shop class instead of homosexual and transgender sensitivity touchy-feely classes...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:24 | 3396634 aerojet
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Um, not quite. AKM was the simplified AK, but it still required an arsenal to produce them. 

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:43 | 3396706 RSBriggs
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As I recall, there weren't many of the milled receiver type 2/3 AKs manufactured.  The ubiquitous type 4 (or AKM ) is pretty much what everyone except collectors consider to be an "AK".  The only precision part is the barrel - everything else can be cranked out in an 'average" machine shop that can cut and grind steel and heat treat the resulting parts.   Doing barrels requires a reasonably good lathe.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:48 | 3396722 Headbanger
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Or.. A really good forge and mandrel.  It ain't easy either.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:34 | 3396912 Winston of Oceania
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Saw a film where knuckle draggers in the mountains of Pakistan were making them by hand, no power, hand cranked lathe and files. Had a whole production line working from templates, couldn't believe my eyes...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:50 | 3396911 css1971
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No, it seems it's not illegal unless you are a "manufacturer". Where manufacturer is defined as someone who's manufacturing firearms for sale or distribution.

Specifically:

(a) It shall be unlawful

(1) for any person—

(A) except a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, to engage in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in firearms

So for personal use, it's legal (In the USA) to manufacture firearms; no license required. Whether any particular produced firearm is then legal or not I have no idea.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:18 | 3396613 Peter Pan
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Great technology. Do you think that Bernanke can use it to print jobs? Do you think Obama can use it to print himself a spine? Do you think that Cheney can use it to print himself a conscience? Do you think that Bush can use it to print himself a brain?

Personally, I think 3D is tremendous technology but like fire it is going to misused for quite a long time.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:24 | 3396629 aerojet
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Instead of asking what would it take to print an AR-15, a better question would be:  What does it take to replicate a simpler firearms such as a Sten or Greasegun?  Those things were designed for mass production with shitty supplies and an untrained workforce.  And while going to battle with a Sten MKIII must have totally sucked, it was sure as hell better than going into battle with nothing and hoping to pick up a dropped rifle.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:53 | 3396742 MachoMan
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Bingo...  this guy is an asshat.  Reminds me of Alex Jones just trying to make a show...

It's as if there is this desperate need to reinvent the wheel...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:24 | 3396633 blanketof ash
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Metal parts? For that there is SLS and SLM

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:27 | 3396640 MrBoompi
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I fear the US is raising up a brand new crop of mass murderers. Sure, a gun is a tool. So what? So is an electric chair or nuclear explosive.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:45 | 3396714 RSBriggs
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Get back to me when we reach the level of Pot Pol, or Lenin....

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:30 | 3396886 Winston of Oceania
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Some would say a statement like that came from a "tool" ...

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:30 | 3396648 walcott
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fuck yeah!

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:30 | 3396651 Peter Pan
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This fascination with guns in the USA is nothing more than a statement of how the Americans view their future.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:50 | 3396736 Headbanger
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Fascination??  Just what do you think was used to found and create this nation

we now live in??  Duh.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:52 | 3396743 sbenard
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What else would you expect from someone that calls him/herself "Peter Pan"?

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 15:52 | 3396997 Peter Pan
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What was used to found and create this nation?

Principles which have now been forgotten.

In any case, the comment was not meant as a put down but rather a statement of the fear that people must be feeling about their future.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 19:11 | 3397664 Lednbrass
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Yeah, everyone knows that when the redcoats went to seize the principles stored at Concord it roused the local militia to such a fury they gave the British troops a stern talking to and rhetorical drubbing, thus launching the American Revolution when the British troops fell back to Boston lashed all the way by rebellious tongues.  Indeed, some historians argue that the sentiments presented in such articulate fashion by rebels at Lexington caused the British troops to fear well aimed adverbs for the rest of their lives.

Damn good thing they didn't just shoot 'em like knuckle dragging Neanderthals, who knows what terrible things might have happened. Luckily entrenched power only yields to soaring oratory and not heavily armed extremists or the voluntary transfer of power from Crown to Republic would not have occured as seamlessly and painlessly as it did.

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 23:16 | 3398235 eftian
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wish I could give you more than one up arrow for that one,, great laugh

Mon, 04/01/2013 - 14:33 | 3396656 krispkritter
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As I'm an IT idgit, a 3D printer is on my want list. I not only want the ability to create plastic parts for repair, I want the ability to make items that I can then sand cast from aluminum(or ?) based on the printed template. There is quite a bit being done on this using a 3D scanner made from basic components, CAD software, and 3D printers. With a basic milling setup you could make quite a few things you might not be able to find so easily in the coming years.

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