Two North Korean Submarines "Disappeared"

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Chosun TV is reporting that South Korean military have lost contact with two North Korean submarines that left their naval base in Hwanghae Province a few days ago.

There has obviously been a lot of changes between last week and now and South Korean military officials suggested that while maneuvers in February were nothing meaningful, now it is provocation.

The two 'torpedo' subs are small 130-ton, 30-meter, 10-man machines that can stay submerged for three-to-four days.

 

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Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:39 | 3405861 Simon
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Don't worry they are "parked" on the floor of the ocean.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:42 | 3405872 Zer0head
Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:43 | 3405877 Motley Fool
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Two questions, range and nuclear capbility?

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:46 | 3405893 kliguy38
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50 miles and marshmellows.........enough to do a lot of damage according to Michael Bloomberg......also rumored to have capability to deliver 32oz soft drinks to our own shore

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:49 | 3405915 xtop23
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"Disappeared." 

Is that anything like Corzined?

 

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:52 | 3405931 krispkritter
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Not buying it! I don't think they can hold their breath or bladders that long...

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:58 | 3405955 IndicaTive
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It's probably not even a 30-meter sub. 27 tops. Eat Fresh!

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:19 | 3406029 MsCreant
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Men do seem to exaggerate length.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:24 | 3406053 nmewn
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I wouldn't touch that comment with MDB's pole ;-)

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:35 | 3406105 The Alarmist
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Hollyrood!

So they take out LA ... will we really miss it?

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:40 | 3406124 nmewn
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I know I wouldn't, of course MoonBeam is doin a pretty good job of nuking the entire state right now...lol.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 20:29 | 3406261 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I figured it wouldn't be long before reincarnated jesus showed up to pimp his site some more.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 20:35 | 3406279 smlbizman
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time for the world police....fuck ya........

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 06:56 | 3407213 markmotive
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Yup. That's what submarines do.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 00:55 | 3406905 putaipan
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for those of you who've never heard ben fulfords' take on the the situation....

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2013/04/what-is-going-on-with-nort...

 

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 20:37 | 3406282 mjcOH1
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"The two 'torpedo' subs are small 130-ton, 30-meter, 10-man machines that can stay submerged for three-to-four days."

Come on now....they can stay submerged a lot longer than that.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 22:14 | 3406574 swmnguy
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Right.  It's the coming back up that gets tougher as time goes on.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:31 | 3406077 kaiserhoff
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Works for both sexes:

Everything over a cubic mouthful is wasted;)

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:44 | 3406135 nmewn
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I've got a good story about that...but everyone would think I'm exaggerating ;-)

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 09:52 | 3407683 thewhitelion
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"Aye lass.  I know me organ's a bit small. but I didn't know I playin' in a cathedral."

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:00 | 3405960 twh99
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Maybe they are sleeping with the fishes?

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:04 | 3405980 ihedgemyhedges
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Of course not.  Don't be ridiculous.  They just got sequestered......

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:41 | 3406125 eatthebanksters
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Would someone get that Jong kid a popsicle so he'll stop crying?  Then let's park a smart bomb with a fire cracker in it on his front porch (like Ray-gun did to Quaddafi)...he'll prolly get the message and go eat some more comfort food like Kentucky Fired Chicken.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 03:47 | 3407090 e-recep
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""Disappeared." Is that anything like Corzined?"

Similar but better. There's a chance they might surface again.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:45 | 3405894 The Shootist
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Quit playing with your dinghy!

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:54 | 3405936 ExpendableOne
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I doubt a 10 man sub would have the ability to launch anything other than a torpedo or diver.  But, if the crew don't mind, they could probably stowe one onboard, park it on the bottom of a nearby harbour and set it off.  

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 22:18 | 3406582 Missiondweller
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Incheon Bay

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 22:52 | 3406669 hoos bin pharteen
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The subs were dispatched to Lake Travis - Austin, Texas!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 02:35 | 3407036 prains
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Koreans are hobbit small so a ten man sub is actually a 20 man sub for them, if they chill on the garlic

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:53 | 3405939 BigJim
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How much range do you need to park alongside Fukushima and lob a few shells at the steaming remains of the crippled fuel ponds? Or any other nuke plant in the west?

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:10 | 3406005 Argos
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Now that is a very scary idea.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 20:20 | 3406240 jerry_theking_lawler
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Holy crap....they did vow 'merciless nuclear war' on amerika. this would definitely fit the bill....

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:16 | 3406025 Quantum Nucleonics
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In answer to your question generally, I'd rather be in a German Type XXI, circa 1945.

Less flippantly, (1) fairly limited, and (2) none.  They are diesel powered, with batteries for operating underwater.  The moment they need to recharge their batteries, in a couple days, they'll be quite easy to find.  They are armed with vintage Russian/Chinese active-homing and/or wake homing torpedos with conventional warheads.

Some will recall a couple years ago that a South Korean frigate sank in mysterious circumstances.  It was raised and found to have been torpedoed, likely by a sub of the same class mentioned in the article.  The SK ship didn't have its sonar systems turned on at the time.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 22:27 | 3406612 King_Julian
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Diesel electrics are much more difficult to find than nuclear powered boats in shallow waters. They need only rise to snorkel depth and could easily mask the sound with shipping traffic. These boats tend to stay in shallow waters and that serves to keep them hidden from other subs, of which there are several off the coast of NK right now, no doubt. They could be found by air and magnetic anomaly, but no doubt they are inside of a surface to air missile envelope for the moment. The snorkel mast is detectable but I'm guessing the NorKs know this and could obscure it from radar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-submarine_warfare#Current_technologies

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:43 | 3405881 kaiserhoff
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You lost another submarine, Yuri?

 

From the Hunt for Red October

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 23:26 | 3406752 bankonzhongguo
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I would not be too surprised if this ever really escalates (again) its because China plans on securing most of North Korea a la UN humanitarian issues.  However, I can see the PLA-N really looking to base some Chinese subs out of "captured" Korean territory.  It has to be the most frustrating blue balled feelings to want to build a blue water navy and still be 10 miles from the Sea of Japan.  Being bottled up in the east china sea sucks.

If I put my non-green China hat on, I would induce Kim Dum-il whoever to spark something and then while the US and the South exhaust themselves in 30 days of hell, China "invades" the north to stop the war - securing new bases on the Sea of Japan AND looking like an international "savior."

That is a game changer.  DPRK and its insiders do not take a dump without China's approval.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 23:51 | 3406811 deKevelioc
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Nah, both will pop up in NY harbor to grab a burger.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:43 | 3405882 McMolotov
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They're defecting to come live in Montana like in The Hunt for Red October.

Wonder if they have caterpirrar drives?

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:39 | 3406118 Beam Me Up Scotty
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No, I think they are searching for all of the lost gold and silver that seems to get lost during all of these boating accidents.  They must read ZH!!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 02:19 | 3407020 Wile-E-Coyote
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Suicide mission.

Little Kim: Now you guys don't worry (he actually talks like that, watched too much US tv) what's in the box just drive up to San Francisco, park get out and wave at the Americans, don't forgot the message we taught you " Goodbye you mother fuckers" then press that liitle red button. Don't worry it will be all over in a flash.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:47 | 3405873 BigJim
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 ...Don't worry they are "parked" on the floor of the ocean.

Yes... perhaps all these threats to nuke us is because they know who sank them.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 18:48 | 3405908 OutLookingIn
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'Roanree. I'm so roanree...

"Ah so Birre Crinton. Did you bring the pictues?"

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:10 | 3406003 Mine Is Bigger
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???

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:18 | 3406032 Another-Ex-RPI-Man
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Yeah. They are Advanced PADI certified. They are wreck diving.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 21:44 | 3406480 Cui Bono
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Put
Another
Dollar
In

insert Bitcoin joke here....

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 23:29 | 3406765 rp1
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They dumped all the bitcoins at the bottom of the ocean.  It's their scheme to get rich.

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 19:23 | 3406048 Croesus
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It's hard to believe that THIS is the official North Korean News Agency:

http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

http://www.kcna.co.jp/item/2013/201304/news02/20130402-10ee.html

 

Wed, 04/03/2013 - 22:20 | 3406591 swmnguy
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Looks like they've been using the same template since, oh, 1993.  Why mess with a classic?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 05:07 | 3407135 Debugas
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This home page is provided by Korea News Service (KNS) in Tokyo ...

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!