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Eric Holder Gets Busy: Enron's Skilling May Be Released From Prison Over A Decade Early

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Former Enron CEO Jeff Skilling may be the latest beneficiary of the culture of pervasive permitted, even according to some - encouraged, crime. After being sentenced to prison for 24 years in the aftermath of Enron's spectacular 2001 bankruptcy, the former CEO may be released after serving well less than half of his term. As a result his prison term, which scheduled to end in 2028, may be cut by more than half as a result of a new agreement with the Department of Justice. It appears that AG Eric Holder is so busy not prosecuting Wall Street for being Too Big To Prosecute, he has decided it is far wiser to spend his time productively by commuting the sentences of convicted financial felons, because apparently there is nothing more important to do.

Reuters reports: "Former Enron Chief Executive Jeffrey Skilling, who is serving a 24-year sentence over the company's spectacular collapse, may get a chance to leave prison early. The U.S. Department of Justice posted a notice indicating that prosecutors are considering entering an agreement with Skilling that could result in his being resentenced. It is unclear how much Skilling's term could be shortened under a resentencing agreement. Wednesday's notice gives former Enron employees, stockholders and other victims of Skilling's fraud that led to Enron's 2001 bankruptcy a chance to object."

From the DOJ filing:

If you believe you are a victim of the crimes committed by the defendant and you wish to express your views to the Department of Justice about entering into a sentencing agreement, and/or to the Court about accepting such an agreement, please notify the Department of Justice and/or the Court by April 17, 2013, using the methods described below, briefly explaining why you are a crime victim, and summarizing your views.


If you wish to be heard at any future resentencing hearing the Court may schedule, you will be asked to notify the Court by a certain date (which will be set forth on the website noted above), and to briefly explain why you are a crime victim and summarize what you wish to say at the hearing.


If it appears that multiple victims wish to make the same points, the Court may limit the number of victims who speak in order not to unduly complicate or prolong the resentencinghearing. The Department of Justice cannot predict when in the course of the hearing the Court will permit victims to be heard. Victims who wish to speak should therefore plan on attending and being available when the opportunity to speak arises.

Of course, the DOJ can't promise the only "complaints" heard will be those from former MF Global executive Jon Corzine, who will instead focus on singing the praises of Skilling for his phenomenal cash flow and balance sheet management skills.

Full filing below:


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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:58 | 3408285 Passage
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Second career at GS

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:59 | 3408293 ParkAveFlasher
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We can't have talent like his devoted to pressing license plates and doing hospital laundry, now can we?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:01 | 3408305 New England Patriot
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Next in line to head Department of Energy. 

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:03 | 3408316 jcaz
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Wow- that leaves only Bernie Madoff as the only guy in finance doing time.....

Oh wait- he's an CNBC contributing reporter now, so doesn't count....

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:07 | 3408334 TeamDepends
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Even the smartest guy in the room has to know the right people.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:08 | 3408341 Sandmann
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He was never as smart as he thought he was

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:47 | 3408549 gmrpeabody
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Now THAT'S the Eric Holder we all know...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:17 | 3408730 Troll Magnet
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brotha's gotta make room in prison for brothas who be smokin' weed!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:28 | 3409417 fourchan
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being drawn and quartered is too good for that hunk of shit.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:29 | 3409657 rajat_bhatia
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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 18:24 | 3410094 EscapingProgress
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One more cell available for the weed smokers!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:09 | 3408348 knukles
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Isn't he the last muckety muck of a company who went to jail for a financial crime, the rest having become a fine paid by the company and back to the shenanigans?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:13 | 3408373 Frank N. Beans
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i believe andy fastow, and possibly his wife, are still in prison

he made some 60 million from his shenanigans, had to pay quite a bit back in fines

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:15 | 3408384 Careless Whisper
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Mister Skilling's services are needed at the ECB.  It's for the children.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:48 | 3408553 I did it by Occident
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Or he can set up shop with whatever Corzine's new outfit is.  Maybe they'll run a fund out of Cyprus. 



Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:47 | 3408554 ihedgemyhedges
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It's a shame his last name isn't Skillingberg. Otherwise, The Bernank could go ahead and retire and his replacement would be ready to go.....

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:48 | 3408560 redpill
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He's a shoe in for Cypriot Finance Minister

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:29 | 3409116 Bobbyrib
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Fastow only served six years and according to the book I read, he was the mastermind behind the whole thing.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:10 | 3408687 insanelysane
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Now the rest of us can be commuted from having to follow Sarbannes-Oxley.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:45 | 3408528 McMolotov
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It should be apparent to everyone by now that we suffer under a two-tiered application of the laws in this country. There's one system of "justice" for all of us peons, and it is harsh and unforgiving. Then there's a separate system of "justice" for the wealthy, crony scum who are intimately connected to the government. That one is lenient to the point of being non-existent.

When a government's legal system grows corrupt from top to bottom, vigilante justice eventually becomes acceptable. Some would go so far as to say it becomes acceptable because citizens come to view it as their duty when the government has failed them so badly.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:52 | 3408584 Crash Overide
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ACE Hardware is having a spring sale on torches and pitchforks.


What a fucking joke...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:57 | 3408611 Al Huxley
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Well, if they are on sale it's because there's no demand for them.   The complacency of the population as their wealth, savings and freedom are taken from them (I won't even say 'stolen' because thatbwould imply some attempt at stealth by the perpetrators) is amazing.  Why the fuck aren't people outraged by all this shit?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:27 | 3408779 prains
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Why the fuck aren't people outraged by all this shit?

radicalizing a docile population to insurrectionism without imminent threat occupies the square next to "next to impossible" AND this is the kleptocorptocracies trump card. They are professional shape shifters and know it.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:29 | 3409418 IdiocracyIsAlre...
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And they make damn sure that when they sense a rise in anger from said docile population, it is channeled towards other peons - "welfare queens", gays, hispanics, blacks, uppity women - anyone but them.  If the general population really had a clue it the guillotine would have long come out and bankster heads would be displayed on pikes on wall street.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:28 | 3409649 prains
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hence the geopolitical hot potatoe being played out from east to west everytime europe looks to go up in flames, voila kim junk dill pickle starts waving around his junk like a drunk in a vegas strip bar just in time to divert media attention away from euro-crash

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 18:07 | 3410056 PKF
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Yep, where I's neighbor vs. neighbor.  Everyone is full of hatred and fear.  And whoever can play their music LOUDER than their neighbor is KING OF THE STREET.  The US used to be a nice place to live.  Alas. 

But I'll head to Ace Hardware...I like pitchforks and torches. 

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:04 | 3408965 Crash Overide
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"The complacency of the population"


Yup, people aren't pissed off enough yet...  I bought extras for when the neighbors wake up.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:39 | 3409175 e_goldstein
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ignorance, stupidity, and Dancing With the Stars

Fri, 06/21/2013 - 16:43 | 3680620 DeadFred
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Do you know when the next season starts?? I can't wait!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:48 | 3409503 Colonel Jessup
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I'm with you Al - I think the answer is that most people still have something left to lose and are not desperate to really go out and start taking matters into their own hands - the globalists know this, and plan accordingly. People dont get too upset until things affect them directly, and as we learned from 1930's Germany - when they come for you, it's too late. 

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:40 | 3408839 PlausibleDenial
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Hence the attack on the Second Amendment.  Just finished a book about various dictators.... talk about a template??  Fuck me running!!!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:01 | 3409293 Mike in GA
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note also the sudden jump in assassination-style murders of law enforcement bigwigs...I would not be surprised to find a correlation

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:44 | 3408535 Stuck on Zero
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Skilling has a myriad of career opportunities waiting for him: CBS Newscaster, GE Executive in charge of business relations, pundit, Cypriot Finance Chief, Chief Justice, or campaign manager for Hillary.


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:44 | 3408862 machineh
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First priority is to reclaim his board of directors seat at the Dallas Fed, which he resigned after his indictment.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:41 | 3409469 californiagirl
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Madoff's mistake was turning himself in and admitting he did something criminal.  Otherwise, he could have probably received a bailout under TARP or one of the other backdoor programs and would be enjoying his billions.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:08 | 3408339 wee-weed up
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Maybe he and Corzine could start up a new investment firm...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:50 | 3408573 I did it by Occident
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Haha, I just posted the same thing and just saw your post.   They'll run it out of Cyprus

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:04 | 3408324 FoeHammer
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That's right. Our society better get its shit together and better utilize elite human capital. I mean, they create jobs and stuff right?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:22 | 3408411 Caviar Emptor
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OMG yes! More than ever we need creative financial guys like Skilling to act as shepherds for the masses! They create. They are creators. While all those who leach off the system by getting up in the morning and eating, going to work burning gas and electricity, breathing air just so they can become aspirational consumers are trash.
Let's start over right now: Skilling for President!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:36 | 3409452 californiagirl
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Skilling can then join the ranks of other former jailbirds like Icahn, Boesky and Milken, whose post-incarceration, financially-enriching, criminal activities will far exceed the pre-incarceration activites that put him in jail in the first place, and which he can now enjoy with impunity thanks to our surreal, too-politically-connected-to-indict, Holder-run Justice Department.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:03 | 3408311 Silver Bug
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Wow does this actually surprise anyone?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:09 | 3408355 Sandmann
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No doubt, but I suspect he'll be a Visiting Professor at SMU and HBS telling The Young that prison is best reserved for later on the resume when you need regular meals and a free gym

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:43 | 3409481 californiagirl
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Prison is a quaint, old-fashioned idea.  We don't do that anymore as long as the financial crime is large enough

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:22 | 3408409 waterhorse
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If he's an attorney maybe he can cozy up at Covington & Burling.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 21:15 | 3410603 Buck Johnson
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Our country is pathetic in putting those that hurt the rest of the 99% of the country in prison for decades.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 22:41 | 3410885 Papasmurf
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Should have been death penalty.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:58 | 3408288 Frastric
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Crime always pays... Especially if you've swindled billions...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:07 | 3408342 Vashta Nerada
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And you can't bundle from prison.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:25 | 3409095 resurger
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No body should know, couple of millions from here and there wont hurt.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:59 | 3408291 realtick
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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:58 | 3408292 SMG
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And some say public hangings are too harsh.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:23 | 3408414 Petrus Romanus
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Hangings are a bit harsh, to quick. Perhaps a reenactment of the fisting scene from Caligula would be a bit more appropriate. Then hang him and hang him high!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:56 | 3408598 Milestones
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I agree!! Let's do a Joan of Arc thingy. More fitting.              Milestones

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 11:58 | 3408297 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Pass the crack pipe.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:02 | 3408306 GrinandBearit
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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:04 | 3408317 sundown333
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"Dick Holder"

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:04 | 3408318 Lordflin
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The financial industry must be running out of crooks... now they are plundering the prisons.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:06 | 3408337 Sandmann
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Well he was a banker right at the beginning and he did turn HNG/Internorth = Enron into an Investnent Bank.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:04 | 3408319 Frank N. Beans
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this is good news for Enron shareholders: the stock just doubled in value


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:04 | 3408321 ShrNfr
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That's [Mark] Rich.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:14 | 3408381 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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don't be mentioning that name around here for the safety of all involved.  i don't want to end up like vince foster

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:06 | 3408323 Screwball
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They need someone to replace ChairSatan Bernanke next year.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:04 | 3408328 Al Huxley
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Doesn't seem right that somebody who just had the bad luck of being caught back in a time when there was still some fading pretense of justice and punishment for commiting financial fraud should have to continue serving time now that it's defacto legal and everybody's cool with it. 


Given the public's quiet acquiescence to Washington/Wall Street's frequent and flagrant demonstrations of power and 'above the law'-ness, I'm surprised they haven't just let him out, held a parade for him and appointed him to some senior position in the government.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:17 | 3408398 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The presidental pardon needs to bestowed on him first like knighthood by royalty. Then they can put him in charge of the GAO.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:27 | 3409104 cougar_w
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+1 for understated vitriol

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:06 | 3408330 vincent
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I hope he bought an island somewhere with his ill gotten gains, cause 4000 former employees who lost everything will have a say in this one way or another

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:08 | 3408340 repete
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And breaking news!

That Russian high rise that was on fire just collapsed into it's own footprint at freefall speed as predicted by our National Institute of Science and Technology.


Fuck no it didn't! 

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:00 | 3408626 Al Huxley
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It must not have any sensitive documentation, inconvenient paper trails, etc. stored in it.  Those are known to cause serious structural weakness in otherwise sound buildings.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:19 | 3408733 NotApplicable
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Sensitive documents are obviously highly incendiary.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:21 | 3409267 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, repete, that that flaming high rise does NOT collapse adds to more than 100 other examples ... The ONLY steel frame buildings that ever collapsed, allegedly due to ordinary fires, were the three on 9/11 in 2001. There is no reasonable doubt, according the basic laws of physics, and commons sense, that those 9/11 buildings must have collapsed due to some inside job, false flag attack, which was covered up, and very successfully promoted as the reason to start more genocidal wars, and prepare to impose democidal martial law.

The two other comments to your post above work through their macabre sense of humour, which appears to me to be the only possible psychological response to recognizing how extremely evil and out of control all the biggest governments, and the banksters that control them, have actually become!

That is also the "answer" to why the People do not protest the increasingly two levels of "justice" that are manifesting, where the richest people now have practical impunity to commit financial frauds. The real world is dominated by a group of people who are collectively trillionaire mass murderers. They could and did get away with murdering thousands of people on 9/11/2001, and were able to use that successful false flag attack to lever it into the motivation to murder millions more people, as well as to lever that to prepare to engage in orders of magnitude more mass murders against the American people in the foreseeable future ...

Most of the commenters above appear to be well aware of those overall conditions, and make valid points, usually with some humourous twist. Nobody is too surprised anymore at the obvious runaway destruction of the rule of law in the USA. The only questions are about how bad that is going to get, and how fast. We are looking at evil being amplified to an astronomical size by technology. I am not aware of anything practical and realistic that can be done about that, other than that drives developing one's macabre sense of humour, to be able to laugh at that evil.

We know that the government has been buying up billions of rounds of ammunition, and in every other way militarizing the police in the USA, to prepare to impose democidal martial law in America. Every example added to the SOCIAL FACTS that the rule of law has broken down (and even worse, the law itself has mostly legalized frauds), JUST ADDS TO THE OVERALL TRENDS.

In the longer term, the destruction of the rule of law will spiral around and destroy those who destroyed it. However, that will not happen in any coherent ways. There is nothing effective to be done which I can imagine, other than waiting and watching as these TRENDS automatically get worse ... In my opinion, the government of the USA is winding itself up into a bankster dominated mad frenzy of destruction, ending in self-destruction. However, I can not imagine anything which could prevent that from happening ... and, personally, I would not be in a hurry to make it get worse!

The problem that I perceive is that anything and everything that attempts to resist this runaway madness of the destruction of the rule of law will only result in that being destroyed faster. The democratic republic is already dead. The accumulations of the triumphs of the banksters' legalized frauds, for more than a Century, have already resulted in a runaway situation of social insanities. Each additional example of the rule of law being reduced to blatant bullshit makes everything worse. However, nothing that goes outside of the rule of law would make that better, rather than even worse, faster. That is the dilemma, the banksters have already so totally taken control of the money supply, and the mass media, and thus the puppet politicians, that there is nothing left of the democratic republic, other than a rubber stamp to OK the runaway fascist plutocracy.

Since the sovereign powers of We the People have ALREADY BEEN 99% PRIVATIZED, there is no way for the proper checks and balances to operate, to make the rule of law work. It is practically impossible, given that PRIVATIZATION OF PUBLIC POWER, to do anything effective to restore the rule of law. Furthermore, it is impossible to restore the rule of law to the impossible ideals, based on false fundamental dichotomies, that it ever was supposed to be before. The dilemmas that we face are due to the growing paradoxes between advances in science and technology everywhere, EXCEPT with regard to human sciences. Therefore, we have a social pyramid system being magnify by trillions of times, driving increasingly insane distortions!

The runaway fascist plutocracy in the USA has computerized surveillance that is trillions of times more able to do that than any previous dictatorship in human history, and, obviously, that runaway fascist plutocracy also has weapons that are trillions of times more powerful than anything before in history. Given that the runaway fascist plutocracy is legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are trillions times BIGGER than ever before in human history, the runaway destruction of the rule of law has no known limits, nor any predictable outcome. ... The theory of a democratic republic, with checks and balances, so that the collective powers of We the People to rob and to kill are operated through the rule of law, is the best theory. However, the reality has seen all those break down, and be destroyed ...

Since the sovereign powers of the USA have ALREADY BEEN 99% PRIVATIZED, the rule of law has already been 99% destroyed. Nothing that destroys that rule of law even worse is going to make that better. However, there is nothing practical and realistic left to do with a "rule of law" which has already been more than 99% destroyed by the triumphs of the banksters privatizing public powers. After the USA was corrupted enough to give away the power to make money out of nothing, as debts, to private banks, then that had to automatically get worse, faster. It is almost impossible for us to imagine the degree to which the destruction of the rule of law AT AN EXPONENTIAL RATE, is going to manifest in the foreseeable future!

My relatively useless opinion is that the ONLY genuine solutions have to be found in paradigm shifts in political science, so that we understand the combined money/murder systems in radically different ways, and thereby, adapt to operating a radically different rule of law in the future, (IF we survive through the coming unprecedented social storms?)

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:05 | 3408346 Widowmaker
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Free the man so justice can actually be served.   Nothing will change until his head is on a stake on Pennsylvania Avenue. 

The only hearing needed is the sound of Skilling wiped from the earth on the threshold to freedom.


...America, land of pussies, the model of broken government and the definition of shame.

What a fucking joke.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:08 | 3408347 syntaxterror
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Fuck Obama the False Prophet. Smegma-faced douchebag.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 22:50 | 3410914 Papasmurf
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you mean false profit.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:09 | 3408350 adr
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Now don't jump to conclusions, it might be a sting operation. Remember they are trying to get information on overseas bank accounts. They might be letting him off so they can find out where he stashed the billions he stole.

Like Fast and Furious, but with Cayman Island accounts.


On second thought, nah. Nobody in the government is that smart. He's just getting his payback for some nice donations from the offshore funds.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:12 | 3408363 Widowmaker
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Bullshit, what you are seeing is fellatio amongst the rich, nothing more.

Don't be a fucking idiot.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:09 | 3408351 Ace Ventura
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Skeezoidal vipers like this getting "Fast-n-Furious" Holder's help. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, he's involved in a full-court nationwide press to continue infringing upon the 2nd Amendment right. There is no rule of law anymore, only rule of men.....certain men, that is.

This shit is well past surreal now. We're firewalling against Ludicrous Speed and are going PLAID.


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:09 | 3408353 moneybots
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Lt. Calley got an early release.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:11 | 3408357 Sandmann
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Didn't he become a jeweller ?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:12 | 3408362 Monedas
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Now there is room for Corzine at the roach motel ?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:38 | 3409165 Bobbyrib
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Corzine will probably meet him when he gets released. Corzine and Skilling Investments. I would feel safe with my money with these criminals. Maybe they can privatize social security and Corzine and Skilling Investments can run everything.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:11 | 3408364 Agent P
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Why wait?  Let him out today on the condition he must remain in Houston...he'll be dead in a week.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:28 | 3408431 Bam_Man
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No...involuntarily remaining in Houston ALIVE would be worse than prison.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:12 | 3408367 moneybots
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Anonymous Hacks Department Of Justice, Threatens To Release Secret DOJ Information, Warns "There Will Be Chaos"


Please do.  We need transparency now more than ever.  Equal justice under law, as inscribed on the Supreme Court building, does not exist any more.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:46 | 3408546 bait_n_switch
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Anonymous is the U.S. government. We are being set up.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:13 | 3408371 j0nx
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It's good to be king bitchez. It's even better when the peasants don't give a shit what you do.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:14 | 3408387 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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All that is left is a Marc Rich style Presidental pardon by Obama.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:17 | 3408394 ziggy59
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They recycle minions...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:24 | 3408412 ziggy59
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Maybe his buddy Ken is having a get together on some island...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:27 | 3408424 Vooter
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NOW do you understand why 9/11 was funny?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:29 | 3408442 Meat Hammer
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Skilling is safer in jail.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:34 | 3408470 ziggy59
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Hes going to be fine.. Im sure some bankster, oil co, dotgov or a buddy, has a cushy job, with benefits for him

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:36 | 3408490 Meat Hammer
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He ruined so many people's lives, I'm sure there are plenty that have his original release date circled on the calendar, just praying they live long enough to exact revenge.  It looks like some prayers may have been answered.  

I hope it's slow and painful.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:39 | 3409179 Bobbyrib
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He ruined the people's lives in Texas, they worship "capitalists" and do not like regulation. He may even get a release party thrown by the imbeciles who have started to put their lives back together that he cheated.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:33 | 3408472 jo6pac
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This makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside being from Calli in all. It's just of more of 0 not looking back, oh wait potus only looks back to help an old friend of the bush clan how sweet.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:34 | 3408478 IamtheREALmario
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Tiny pieces in the machinery.

I recall the priceless look on Tony Hayward's (Ex-CEO of BP) face after he quite innocently related that he was upset that overseeing the murder and displacement of millions of lives was interfering with his sailing.... and then being replaced by the head lizard BP chairman.

In that look, it was clear that the spill, the deaths of the people on the platform, the oily destruction of the gulf, the US government Core-exit spraying and cover-up were all planned and that he was just doing what he was told ... like a good little privileged toady. It was a look of total mystification and betrayal.

Skilling is a bright and connected tool, nothing more. He is being rewarded for his service through a reduction of sentence.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:35 | 3408479 Downtoolong
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In two weeks he will have raised $20 billion and be running a hedge fund focusing on the energy sector.


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:37 | 3408493 pragmatic hobo
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I'm actually shocked bush didn't pardon him years ago ...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:38 | 3408500 hannah
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skilling didnt do anything the bankers arent doing today...WHY THE FUCK IS HE IN PRISON...HE DID NOTHING ILLEGAL.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:39 | 3408502 yrad
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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:38 | 3408504 buzzsaw99
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crime pays

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:40 | 3408510 bait_n_switch
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No one hates the banksters more than I, however, I think the banksters are being set up for a fall by their lords and masters, the U.S. government. The government wants us to believe the banksters are in charge when it's a big fat lie.

You see, the government truly owns EVERYTHING by investment, but through walls of well masked corporate veils created over the decades, that fact's been hidden in plain sight.

It's all in the Comp Ann Fin Report (C.A.F.R.) As of 2007 the total "Local" Government entities plus Federal are standing at 184,000, and they all must produce a C.A.F.R. (state; city; county; school district; gov pension, etc.)

The "GROSS" INCOME of government is now 1/3rd "TAX" income and 2/3rds NON-TAX income derived from: return on INVESTMENTS and money generated from government enterprise projects.

You see, the government keeps two sets of books. They claim publicly that there is a budget which falsely claims this is all the money we have, at whatever level it is-- the city, the county, the state, federal. It’s usually about one-third of the actual amount. So what about the rest? The two-thirds not included in the public budget? Well, you have to seek out the C.A.F.R, which reports the actual revenue of governments at all the different levels, from all the different sources: taxes, investments, EVERYTHING.

Watch Corporation Nation.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:14 | 3409360 Radical Marijuana
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Yeah, bait_n_switch, I agree that there is an ourboros of incorporated robbery, BUT, I do not agree that the power resides in the governnment. The government appears to be to run by puppets, who are put in place by the systems perpetually being owned and controlled by the banksters and their buddies.

The situation is that there are extemely paradoxical toroidal vortices, going through and through the People, "their" government, and the corporations. I agree with you that the FACTS are now hyper-bizarre, since the biggest banks that own more than half of everything are themselves, in turned, owned by vast numbers of other people, through many, many government mandated funds!

However, the basic theory of complex systems is that the most labile component controls the system. That used to be that the most dishonest and violent people controlled civilization. However, even that has jumped the rails, with the development of high technology. Today, I no longer believe there are any human beings left that actually understand and control the systems that were built in the past, but which are now being amplified trillions of times by technology.

I no longer believe that there are any extremely wealthy flesh and blood human beings that can still control the current systems. Their ancestors may well have originally made and maintained those systems, however, I tend to think that the hyper-bizarre ouroboros of incorpporated robbery, (which the collective CAFRS reveal ARE FACTS) have created hyper-bizarre toroidal vortices, in the form of a civilization "controlled" by lies, backed up with violence, which is actually insanely out of control!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 18:06 | 3409728 bait_n_switch
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Update: I reread your response and I agree

I agree that the power does reside in corporation: the biggest one of all: UNITED STATES, INC.  It's not even hidden...very easy to check out, although, since more people are finding out about it, the government is finding ways of burying it. 

But each year all State and local governments prepare a financial report on assets, liabilities, revenues and expenditures in more or less in a standardized format that must conform to the Government Accounting Standards Board (GASB) accounting and financial reporting standards. This financial report is called the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (C.A.F.R., pronounced "cay-fer"). Most people have heard of the budget, which is the document that plans and authorizes the spending of money. The C.AF.R describes what actually was spent and the status of assets and liabilities at the end of the fiscal year. It's all laid out....can't dispute it.

Presents a comprehensive picture of a government's financial condition by combining the annual financial reports of all government agencies and universities.

Provides information on all government funds including those held outside the government treasury.

Presents information on the accrual basis recognizing amounts owed by the government but not paid at the end of the fiscal year, as well as amounts due to the government but not received by the end of the fiscal year.

Contains information on real property and other fixed assets, long-term obligations or investments held outside the government treasury; and

Includes statistical and some economic data.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 22:25 | 3410807 Radical Marijuana
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I think that Walter Burien's stuff is some of the theoretically most important to understand:

However, unfortunately, that material is necessarily not so entertaining to take the time to understand, since it concerns more than a hundred thousand different financial reports, all of which must be considered together, in order to get the overall picture.

The way I see it is that government mandated funds had the power to rob, (i.e., practical taxation) behind them, in order to generate revenue to use to invest, and then, were able to constantly recycle some of their profits from their investments to buy more investments! Decade by decade, those more than 100,000 government mandated funds, (and even more all over the world now) have been investing, and reinvesting ... As the CAFR reports show, if one takes the time to wade through them, the paradoxes abound that government mandated funds own the vast majority of public companies!

Thus, the oroboros of incorporated robbery is one of the most important social facts about our real economic system. The government created corporations, which then government mandated funds bought ownership of, so that governments regulate corporations, which government mandated funds own the vast majority of ... and around and around it goes ... Especially since, as you said, from an abstract perspective, looking at the history of the legal language, etc., it can be said that the government itself is a corporation, which has used the de facto power to rob, backed by the power to kill those who resisted being robbed, to drive a vicious spiral of wealth concentration into the hands of other corporations, owning other corporations, all going around and around, with one level after another level of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, WHICH IS NOW OUR WHOLE SYSTEM!

Paradoxically, as Walter Burien points out, with respect to theoretical solutions to these problems, it is still "We the People" that own almost everything, BUT more than 99% of us are too ignorant about that to be able to control it. Instead, a tiny clique of professional money managers, running in their own pack, as the descendents from the original vicious wolves, the biggest banksters, that originally made and maintained these financial systems, contol everthing, by conforming to their own covert clique's concepts.

Thus, our civilization is an overall oroboros of incorporated robbery, where almost everyone owns everyone else, inside of hyper-bizarre financial slavery systems, which are debt controls, backed by death controls, which are overwhelming and overbearing, since the whole thing is BASICALLY a debt slavery system! Despite the social facts being that almost all the corporations are owned by the public, through government mandated funds, the effective control over what those corporations actually do is directed by professional money managers, who are NUTS, since they rely on numbers on their computers, which are NUTS.

Gradually, through history, the patriarchal militarism of the War Kings became the fascist plutocracy of the Fraud Kings. What stayed the same was that the vast majority of the people acted like slaves or sheep, while a relatively tiny minority directed what happened. The CAFR reports, as a whole, present the runaway postmodernizing manifestation of that oroboros of incorporated robbery.

Collectively, We the People ALREADY own just about everything, and therefore, could theoretically control that, IF we wanted to. However, the overwhelming vast majority of the People do not understand, and do not want to understand, while the high priests of our state religion, the professional money managers, go through and through the revolving doors between governments and corporations, and thereby continue to maintain the established systems, which depend upon the vast majority of people being too clueless to comprehend how clueless they are!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:48 | 3408559 HowardBeale
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SKilling/Corzine 2016!

Let's just get this farce of a country over with quickly. Please

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 12:52 | 3408579 Lugnut
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Seeding a new billion dollar hedge fund in 3..2..1.


Get in on the ground floor kids!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:03 | 3408641 earleflorida
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once the ussa is knocked off it's perch as 'King Hegemony' in late 2014... the 'Cyprus Moment' will re-enact itself into the rarified psyche of amerikana's sheeples' minds, as the 'tbtf's' harvest their ill gotten life saving for the good life of a totalitrarian state? 

your debt prison shall be  bo[u]nd`less

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:03 | 3408652 Dan Conway
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Does this mean that they will repeal sarbanes-oxley?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:21 | 3408740 ISEEIT
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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:32 | 3408794 Everybodys All ...
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The incompetence of Holder is on par only with Obama's .

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:16 | 3409038 BidnessMan
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It is not incompetence.  It is not a mistake.  It is a purposeful effort to prove that Big Banks are too big to fail, and that the banker individuals making the decisions in corrupt financial institutions are completely above the law.  For the few who were convicted in the past, they are being let out early as a message.  The message is even if there are convictions in the future, not to worry.  You will be out soon to spend your ill gotten gains. The 1% club is above the law.

Clearly the other message is "Steal Big".  Only minor criminals actually get punished.  Skilling was unlucky to get exposed during the Bush administration.  If Enron blew up today, he would get off with minor inconvenience.  See Corzine, the LIBOR riggers, et al.  Will be interesting to see if the "Justice" Department is so corrupted that Bernie Madoff is next to get off early.

Hundreds of years from now, historians will marvel at the boldness of the stench of our times. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:48 | 3425052 MeelionDollerBogus
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Indeed, it’s the fall of Rome all over again, corruption top to bottom. I do wonder how after all these years Skilling still had influence to get himself out, what further value there is left in him for the corrupt but perhaps he had some blackmail piece on someone or some crazy idea to steal even more than all those since his time… and they feel only he personally could impress the most by being let out.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:31 | 3408795 GoldRetriever
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Looks like another "end run" around justice by Holder.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:33 | 3408804 bugs_
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Skilling and Scottie Sullivan were TRAILBLAZERS not criminals!

They should both be advisors to the ECB ponzi scheme and the FED ponzi scheme.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:36 | 3408816 fishwharf
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Maybe now Ken Lay can come out of hiding.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:37 | 3408821 SmittyinLA
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Mike Caruso, former Orange County Cal  Sheriff in prison for corruption seeks early release based on Skilling ruling too

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:38 | 3408831 GoldRetriever
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Soon followed by pardons for Bernie Ebbers and Dennis Kozlowski.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:00 | 3408945 yogibear
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The Wall Street criminals are in charge of the just - us system. Release any noteworthy Wall Street crimonals.

Angelo Mozilo is on the beach tanning and still making deals,

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:46 | 3408843 Jack Burton
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Max Keiser is always going on about the western dual system of justice. Many people call Keiser a crank and a fool because of his outbursts on camera during his show on RT. I have followed Max since he first went to Iceland before the 2008 crash and exposed the nature of Iceland's banking system and the fact that it would crash. He even talked to a number of Icelandic bankers on camera and confronted them with his views, the bankers naturally told him he was dead wrong. Keiser then interviewed a number of young people on the streets and they told him that Icelanders were by nature more productive and smarter in the fields of finance, and that that is why the Icelandic banking system was so successful and so beneficial to Icelands economy.  The students told Max that the future for them was bright and finance really was the most productive of enterprises.

This was about a year before it all blew up. Since then Keiser has claimed that bankers and financiers were being held above the law in most western nations. I doubt anyone could argue with Keiser on this, as case after case against banks are thrown out of court by federal judges, while the prison system is being rammed to capacity with little people involved in minor drug possession or petty theft and the like.

Any honest person can see that government is now working to free the few financial and corporate crooks who were convicted. Cleaning the jails out so that only little people are locked up. This is a deliberate signal to average Americans, the governemnt is saying to us, "Shut the fuck up, we run batertown, cross us in anyway and you will rot in the new US gulag systems". Is there a reason America leads the world in prison population, are Americans of average status REALLY so criminal? Or has government made so many petty laws and hired so many dubious cops just to insure the power structure can fill up the prisons and scare the population in SHEEP status.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:53 | 3425061 MeelionDollerBogus
Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:48 | 3408861 FIAT
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another day, another reminder that anyone who plays by the rules is an idiot

Crime pays.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:45 | 3408864 Bingfa
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Massive secret file leak exposes offshore companies global impact...Fueling corruption and financial woes...

"The leaked files provide facts and figures — cash transfers, incorporation dates, links between companies and individuals — that illustrate how offshore financial secrecy has spread aggressively around the globe, allowing the wealthy and the well-connected to dodge taxes and fueling corruption and economic woes in rich and poor nations alike.

The hoard of documents represents the biggest stockpile of inside information about the offshore system ever obtained by a media organization. The total size of the files, measured in gigabytes, is more than 160 times larger than the leak of U.S. State Department documents by Wikileaks in 2010."


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:55 | 3408915 yogibear
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Jack Jew needs a treasury secretary assistant  that is experienced at cooking books and comitting fraud.

Calling Jeff Skilling!! 


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 13:57 | 3408932 ChanceIs
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>>>that prosecutors are considering entering an agreement with Skilling that could result in his being resentenced.<<<

Excuse me.  Where is the quid-pro-quo?  What does the government (that would be us) get for letting him out?  Would it be the notion that it would get to stop reading his endless appeals for clemency and getting back to viewing porn from 9-5?

John Hinckley Jr. Is still in prison, and all he did was shoot President Reagan.  Charles Mason is still in the slammer.  He only killed a movie star (Sharon Tate).  Hmmmm.  I guess that Hollywood had a lot of suasion even back then. 

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:06 | 3408979 GoldRetriever
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Rumor has it that the DOJ is working to exonerate all the former Enron crooks. The operation has been dubbed "Fastow and Spurious."

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:15 | 3409034 dbarrett
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To Hell with these corrupt bastards!

Gold Price Girls

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:26 | 3409047 ChanceIs
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Dianne Feinstein got very POed when Ken Lay got a dismisal back in '06.  maybe she will stop playing with guns and get back to something productive:


October 20, 2006 Senator Feinstein Calls on Attorney General Gonzales to Appeal Dismissal of Convictions of Enron’s Former Chairman and CEO Ken Lay


Washington, DCU.S. Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, today called on Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to appeal the dismissal of the criminal convictions of former Enron Chairman and CEO, Kenneth Lay. Senator Feinstein believes that this decision, issued by U.S. District Court Sim Lake of the Southern District of Texas earlier this week, denies the victims of Enron appropriate restitution.

 In a letter to Attorney General Gonzales, Senator Feinstein expressed concern that the Justice Department failed to notify all members of the House and Senate Judiciary Committee in seeking a legislative fix to the issue of dismissal of Mr. Lay’s convictions, instead turning only to Vice President Dick Cheney and Speaker of the House of Representatives Dennis Hastert (R-Texas). Senator Feinstein also announced her intention to introduce legislation to address this question when Congress returns in November for a “lame duck” session.

Below is the text of the letter sent by Senator Feinstein to Attorney General Gonzales:

October 20, 2006

The Honorable Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General
United States Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20530-0001

Dear Mr. Attorney General:

The dismissal of Kenneth L. Lay’s conviction by U.S. District Court Sim Lake of the Southern District of Texas is disconcerting and demands immediate attention. I urge the Justice Department to seek an appeal of Judge Lake’s decision, so that the Government can fight to preserve Enron victims’ hard-fought right to obtain restitution.

I was also dismayed to learn that the Justice Department delivered its request for emergency legislation on this issue only to Vice President Cheney and Speaker Hastert, failing to notify all members of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees.

As you know, I have long held a keen interest in the Enron case, given my role as a Senator representing the State of California. I have also worked actively to protect the rights of crime victims over many years. If Justice Department officials had approached my office about this issue earlier, I could have worked with your Administration to pass legislation.

Prior to his death, Mr. Lay was found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt of all ten counts of the Enron Task Force’s indictment. These charges included conspiracy, bank fraud, securities fraud, and wire fraud involving false and misleading statements.

All of those convictions have now been dismissed, based on the sole fact that Mr. Lay has died. Under the common-law doctrine of abatement, if a criminal defendant dies before his direct appeal is completed, any conviction is vacated and the indictment is dismissed. Following the precedent of United States v. Estate of Parsons, 367 F.3d 409 (5th Cir. 2004) (en banc), Judge Lake dismissed all of these convictions against Mr. Lay, even though the Justice Department’s Enron Task Force had noted that they “provided the basis for the likely disgorgement of fraud proceeds totaling tens of millions of dollars.”

The Fifth Circuit holding in Parsons went far beyond traditional notions of abatement. While the common-law doctrine of abatement has historically wiped out “punishments” following a criminal defendant’s death, the Supreme Court has never held that it also must wipe out a victim’s right to “compensatory” relief such as restitution. As the six dissenters in Parsons noted, the majority’s “‘finality rationale’ is a completely novel judicial creation which has not been embraced or even suggested by … other courts.” And the Third and Fourth Circuits have expressly refused to abate a restitution order after a criminal defendant’s death.

The dismissal of Kenneth Lay’s convictions effectively leaves the victims of Enron without appropriate financial restitution. That’s why I urge you to appeal Judge Lake ’s dismissal of Mr. Lay’s convictions. I also encourage you to continue to fight for these Enron crime victims by seeking resolution of this Circuit split from the U.S. Supreme Court.

I also plan to introduce legislation when Congress returns from recess to address the issue of abatement after a criminal defendant’s death. We should do everything in our power to protect not only the victims of Enron, but also other victims who may be harmed by this unfair principle of law.




Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator

Cc: Members of the Enron Task Force

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:26 | 3409099 rosiescenario
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The only really surprising thing is that this butthead ever made it into jail.....alive. You'd have thought that here might have been one person in Texas with a gun and enough anger.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:32 | 3409139 the grateful un...
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Congress is making Holder provide a list of TBTF banks. I mentioned this before in reference to Rand Pauls filibuster, that it was theatrical gesture against an obvious power grab (by someone who will run for the seat next time out and would love to take a page from the Obama playbook, which is to campaign as a crusader defended of the Constitution, and then inherit all sorts of legal precedents to abuse that power, and repeal none of them) and that the correct legal way to handle these things is for Congress to make the Executive Branch define their assertion before they enact the new authority.

The chief executive can assert all kinds of (unconstitutional) powers, and acquire those powers (subject to a showdown with Congress, or Scotus, which is frightened by something as simple as gay marriage)  which POTUS will always win during a crisis - self inflicted, false flag, or otherwise) Unless the assertion is legally questioned before the authority is triggered, usually by a subjective decision on their part, that abuse of power becomes part of the POTUS legal authority, and difficult to rescind.

Taibii says he feels strangely relieved having seen how government works. good, because i feel like puking.


Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:36 | 3409158 mind_imminst
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I am not going to say that Lay and Skilling were innocent (many have speculated they were just recklessly so many TBTF banks...just not politically connected enough to avoid prosecution), but I remember an article a while back describing how the prosecution withheld exculpatory evidence in the Enron case. If that is true, then maybe he does deserve a little time off his sentence or a retrial. Maybe.

Here it is Not sure about the veracity.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:44 | 3409204 cougar_w
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Enron manipulated energy prices and racked in fat profits on arbitrage.

The Hell. Manipulating price contracts and other derivatives is like -- what -- 50% of the US economy now? Maybe more?

The fucker was ahead of his time, was his only mistake.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:52 | 3425063 MeelionDollerBogus
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Ahead of his time! The Nikola Tesla of market-fraud.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:53 | 3409243 ChanceIs
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Interesting article. I don't have time to read all the references. Having said that.....F'em.

Joe Stalin wanted to summarily hang some 10,000 SS as VE Day approached. You know - just to make an example, nice round number. No trial necessary. Just because.

We supposedly enacted Sarbanes-Oxley to make corporate execs more accountable. Screw around with monir fine points of the law all you want. Those guys were as guilty of what they did as what they didn't do - such as pull the plug when they knew that they were waaaaaaay too far out on the limb and so many people's financial well being were at stake. That would be Enron employees to start.

I am a conservative, not a populist by any means. Lay, Skilling, Fastow et al stunk up the joint for all of us true capitalists. Gave us a bad name. They were bad. A little summary justice gives a net benefit to society.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 14:49 | 3409222 monad
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Another decoy to distract from what the traitors are up to. Better than NK nukes, but still BS.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:30 | 3409656 web bot
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This is something that is worrying... are people really, really getting ready for something? You've got to be careful for what you wish for...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 17:42 | 3409836 Rick Blaine
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Eric Holder is a great man.


Wow...I feel gross even after writing that sarcastically.



Thu, 04/04/2013 - 17:17 | 3409860 Lumberjack
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Maybe he will get a job at UPC Renewables or any of a few thousand shell LLC's associated with them or their management. The enron guys look out for their own and the recent Mafia raids in Italy include IVPC. The name Brian Caffyn keeps coming up.  

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 17:29 | 3409921 Powder
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Just once I wish we could see Holder do something douchey....just once.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 20:01 | 3410385 nathan1234
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Criminals are in control of most of the Governments.

They use other criminals in government services and in uniform to foster their agenda and to pepetuate their needs.

They also use the media to brainwash you, the soap operas, movies and sports to distract you while they go about their goals. What you read is all you need to know.

Whoever thinks that Governments are representative of the people need to wake up and think now as to their course of action.

And while people have been sleeping, they have taken away the bullets so that guns will be devoid of ammo.

Very cleverly, since the second amendment protects guns rights, the easier way is to remove the bullets.

Problem is by the time people wake up and understand what is really going on it may be too late. And that is what they are counting on.



Fri, 04/05/2013 - 01:48 | 3411288 godzila
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I certainly believe the M. Skilling got a very harsh sentencing when compared with current practice, where this time of crime is not anymore prosecuted. It is only fair that he gets re-sentencing...

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