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Investigators Hit Brick Wall; Bank Of Cyprus CEO Hard Drives Wiped

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As the investigation into unusual loan write-downs and the 'premature' movement of capital away from Cyprus by the elites of that nation progresses, Cyprus Mail reports that the investigators - Alvarez and Marsal (A&M) - have found that the information provided by Bank of Cyprus (BoC) was incomplete and data deleting software were found on the computers of two senior executives. "Our computer forensic technologists have found that the computers of two employees, (former CEO) Mr. (Andreas) Eliades and (senior manager group treasury and private banking) Christakis Patsalides, have had wiping software loaded, which is not part of the standard software installations at the BoC." Investigators found no e-mail files, mailboxes or user documents on Eliades’ desktop computer - "we had significant gaps in the e-mail data received from BoC for the period 2007 to 2010, a key period for our scope of investigation," and no email backups were performed. A&M is looking into how BoC accumulated €2.4bn worth of Greek government bonds (GGBs), later suffering huge losses because of that, and into BoC’s expansion to Romania and Russia. We are sure this is all above board and normal IT protocol for the bank... or not.

Via Cyprus Mail,

Deletion of data allegedly took place on computers belonging to senior Bank of Cyprus (BoC) executives, according to the leaked findings of a probe into the circumstances that forced the island’s biggest lenders to seek state assistance.

 

Alvarez and Marsal, the firm tasked with investigating why Bank of Cyprus and Laiki sought state assistance, said the information provided by BoC was incomplete and data deleting software were found on the computers of two senior executives.

 

“Our computer forensic technologists have found that the computers of two employees, (former CEO) Mr. (Andreas) Eliades and (senior manager group treasury and private banking) Christakis Patsalides, have had wiping software loaded, which is not part of the standard software installations at the BoC,” A&M said. “Mass deletion of data appears to have been undertaken on the Patsalides computer on October 18, 2012.”

 

A&M’s findings were handed over to parliament on Wednesday.

 

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Investigators found no e-mail files, mailboxes or user documents on Eliades’ desktop computer.

 

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A&M said there were more gaps in the data collection.

 

“We had significant gaps in the e-mail data received from BoC for the period 2007 to 2010, a key period for our scope of investigation,” the firm said.

 

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A&M said its team was not authorised to issue subpoenas or compel anyone to attend an interview or compel the production documents and data if they did not work for an entity supervised by the CBC.

 

However, any conduct identified as suspicious will be surrendered to the attorney-general, A&M said, citing the CBC.

 

A&M looked into how BoC accumulated €2.4 billion worth of Greek government bonds (GGBs), later suffering huge losses because of that.

 

It also looked into BoC’s expansion to Romania and Russia.

 

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Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment RacerX
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Lol.. This is going to be like an episode of the 3 stooges. Larry, Curly & Mo.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:21 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Guess WHAT ???

ALL The (Paper) Fiats In The WHIRLD Are Hard Drive Based Data.

 

GOLD Anyone .?.


Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:37 | Link to Comment idea_hamster
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I've heard that waterboarding has the ability to jog someone's memory as to who said what and when.

After all, do we really care which of the technocrat central banksters we line up against the wall first?  They'll all get their chance eventually....

EDIT: for TPTB who care -- I'm talking about mug shots here.  Seriously.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:40 | Link to Comment ihedgemyhedges
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I am sure this was accidental.  They were trying to download special SEC porn programs, but inadvertantly downloaded hard drive wiping software instead.....

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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They wiped all those bitcoins with wiping software?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:32 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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AAAAnnnndddd it's GONE!

(somebody had to say it)

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Holder's clean-up crew must be moonlighting...

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 17:30 | Link to Comment MagicHandPuppet
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Lol.  I'm sure it was just routine computer maintenance.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:04 | Link to Comment donsluck
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Incorrect. My paper money is not on a hard drive. This is why the only safe investments are PMs and cold hard paper physical cash.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:28 | Link to Comment Jack Napier
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Paper is as safe compared to digital dollars as gold and silver are safe compared to paper. Cash is good to have in a crunch, but it's a terrible investment.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Going Loco
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BTC?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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Never heard of brain wallets?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:17 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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Hard drives. . . bitcoins. . . gold. . choice is easy.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Banksters
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10011001100101001010

 

Binary for, no proof here, dummies.

 

lol

Banksters 1

Investigators 0

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:21 | Link to Comment Big Slick
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There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment Dodgy Geezer
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"There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't"

 

While there are FA people who understand hex...

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Taint Boil
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http://www.fileshredder.org/ I have it -it is free. 

........to remove, or shred files permanently from your system you have to use a program that is capable of rewriting the files with random series of binary data multiple times. This process is often called shredding. That way, the actual content of the file has been overwritten and the possibilities to recover such a shredded file are mostly theoretical.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Ying-Yang
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or you beat the hell out of the hard disk

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
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No, actually that's recoverable. Pro tip: shredding software + thermite = no worries.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment PhysicalRealm
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Re: Taint Boil's suggestion of fileshredder.org , if you have the luxury of being able to wipe an entire HD, use Darik's Boot and Nuke http://www.dban.org/ . Regarding mutilating, breaking, hammering etc., on a HD, data can almost always still be recovered.  Questions I'd have here, though, would be regarding personal mobile devices belonging to the crooks, and ISP records.  (In the US, at least, all ISPs keep copies of emaill at least for a while - and that was true long before the Utah Data Center was even a glimmer in some Orwellian gooberment asshole's mind.) 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:53 | Link to Comment overbet
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Now the people should know this is where their hit list starts.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment SilverRhino
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Are they seriously peddling the notion that they cant find his emails????   

Uh, Exchange server anyone? 

Restore from backup?   

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 15:30 | Link to Comment Goner
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From the Article "and no email backups were performed."

I have a bit of experience with backups and email and I can tell you even small shops have email protection. The fact this bank does not (at least now) means this went even further. There are two options

1) The investigators have no idea what they are doing when then looked at the Backups (highly unlikely)

2) The executives told the IT people to erase it

Grab the IT guys and threaten them and I bet you get some answers. Depending on the process used, you may even be able to rebuild the deleted backup data.

Give me a few hundred thousand Benny Bucks and I will help consult

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 21:42 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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they still get to choose where that data is stored, and if that 'where' is a hot-swappable drive and/or a ram-disk - the software doesn't care so long as it has a location to drop to - then I guess that solves that, doesn't it?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment fonestar
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Interesting they wiped the hard drives.  Now try "wiping" the block-chain.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:13 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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They probably used US DoD standards for disposing of evidence.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:20 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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AAAnd the next wave of technological achievement is the dot matrix printer.  Finally, a safe and secure means of storing large amounts of data.

1979, bet your ass!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:20 | Link to Comment malikai
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These guys look at PCs to find emails and funds transfers. And this is a bank we're talking about right? Anyone think of the servers?

It's no wonder Cyprus is fucked.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Groundhog Day
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Malikai,  If it were a legitimate investigation that would be the logical place to look, but this is a dog and pony show in a circus so they'll keep looking at the hard drive to keep the sheep at bay

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Telemakhos
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The server is where you store business data that doesn't get you indicted if one of your IT geeks decides to leak it to the press.  Moreover, that's where lower- and mid-level employees keep their data, because IT sees their computers as fungible and instantly-replaceable.  The investigators probably got a copy of the server data some time ago; much of the money laundering should be there.

The C-level employee's PC hard drives, though, might contain stuff that the IT staff can't be trusted to keep secret.  Things like bribes to politicians, blackmail-ready info, etc.  Moreoever, encrypted e-mails might make their way onto the PC hard drive in unencrypted form, but live on the server only as gibberish.  So, checking the hard drives isn't dumb.

The interesting thing is not that the C-levels were destroying evidence, but when: October, 2012.  That's when the high-level bank staff knew for sure that they were fucked.  That should characterize a turning-point in the history of BofC.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Acet
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In a company the (email) server is where the e-mails are.

E-mails stored in the PC are just local copies.

PS: This is a professional, expert opinion.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 15:36 | Link to Comment Goner
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Everyone knows you dont use company email when you steal, lie or cheat. Your own staff can track and give evidence against you.

You use a hotmail account /sarc

ps. Love that someone dinged you for stating facts

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 02:12 | Link to Comment Andre
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POP3 and delete from server once it hits the local drive.

Some still recoverable from the server to some extent, but use over time has a way of making life (and recovery) a bit harder.

Now, if those were solid state drives with leveling turned on (which it almost always is) - fun, fun in the sun, sun.

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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I doubt they're using POP3. The corporation I work for isn't. There's reasons for that, part of which are reporting abilities, part of which is being able to trash entire computers as needed without a loss of emails, schedules, etc. (exchange server) or whatever else companies choose to use.

It's a bank, a big bank, not a mom 'n' pop using pop3 or hotmail.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 06:40 | Link to Comment Acet
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As the man said, large companies doen't use POP3.

Amongst other things, if they used POP3, when a user machine died, all their e-mails would be lost (and doing backups on the server or even setup multiple servers in a redundant configuration is far easier than backing-up thousands of user machines).

Also you can't have e-mail accessible from multiple devices (say, a desktop PC and notebook and a BlackBerry) with POP3.

They're either using Exchange or IMAP, both of which keep the e-mails in the server.

 

PS: in response to the guy that mentioned hotmail, the overwelming majority of banks block that at the firewall level.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment BigJim
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If the bank's IT department followed normal backup procedures, there will be scores of DLT/LTO/3592 tapes with snapshots of that data.... if anyone really wants it to be found, of course.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment Ahmeexnal
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Do you store your bitcoin wallet in DLT/LTO?
Nah, these "new kids on the block" when it comes to IT only know USB thumbdrives, "backing up on iCloud or FaceBook" and iPads.
"Normal backup procedures" usually mean no backup until a SHTF event takes place.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:58 | Link to Comment BigJim
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The missing stuff dates back to 2007... and the system they were using almost certainly pre-dated that. So chances are pretty good they were backing up onto tape.

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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OK, now ask yourself: is that the actual hard drive that was actually there before, or were the "acceptable files" and sectors duplicated to another hard drive while the other one is just flat out gone?

I also made another comment about routing to ram-disk so nothing would be saved yet all the software wouldn't question it so long as it has a place to store the files as usual, as if it was a hard-disk.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment Ancona
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Deletion is the solution. Cyprus is just the beginning.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Ctrl+Alt+Del for the whole thing is the real solution.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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Wipe out the debt. Treasury should get Turbo-Wipe!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment centerline
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Again.  I am shocked.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:12 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Going all in with other peoples' money is a tried and true strategy.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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Corzined!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:13 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Shocked, totally shocked, that gambling goes on there.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Well there's a shocker. Now all we need to make the farce complete is them being questioned by parliament on their version of C-SPAN with the title of "honorable" in front of their names.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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Maybe it originally was meant to spell: "Homo-rape-able"?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Richard Head
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And still, not one Cypriot banker hangs from a lamp post.  What does it take, people????

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:19 | Link to Comment CommunityStandard
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Exactly.  Rule of law won't be enforced if the people don't care.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:37 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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They're making us all look bad.  Lying bankers and politicians will keep right on doing this shit until somebody pushes back.  Right now, nobody's pushing back.  Just lying there and taking it.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Gief Gold Plox
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All Cypriot lamp-posts were shipped to the ECB as collaterol for the 18million eur they need to raise in order to fullfill their part of their own bailout.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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That is sad. With these harddrives wiped, there only remains the medievil way to get the desired information. Heat up some rods and get the waterboard ready!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:20 | Link to Comment HD
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No need. Just throw them out on main street for a nice spring walk. 

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:15 | Link to Comment Olephant
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Just lock them up until they talk ? oh wait the law is not meant for them. Silly me.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Smuckers
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If their primary search effort is to look at the end-user desktop, they are simply too stupid to find anything of relevance.

Long strong magnets and server boating accidents.

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:23 | Link to Comment HD
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My understanding is that CIA uses power drills and a bucket of bleach.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Olephant
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What about pre installed thermite charges on your hard drives in case you need to leave in a hurry ?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:39 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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They burn them.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:33 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 If their primary search effort is to look at the end-user desktop, they are simply too stupid to find anything of relevance.

It is possible they were using purely workstation-based email 'solutions' like Outlook Express for their email... in anticipation of just such a scenario.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:18 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Perfectly normal protocol under Basel III and MF Globals model rules of corporate governance.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Miss Expectations
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Carried out by the hard driving Evil Knights' Template?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:19 | Link to Comment sansnobel
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The People of Cyprus Don't have a man among them if they don't demand these motherfuckers heads on a platter right now.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:42 | Link to Comment Silver Garbage Man
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The people of Cyprus likely don't get this kind of info.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:22 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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Why did the executive have access to Hard Drives.  Should the IT department handle it.  Oops, they're in India. Too fvckin bad.  How about a backup of all the servers data that's is stored off site, in a secure area.   Something stinks here. No this is not dead Chinese pigs.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Matt
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How can someone have a laptop they use for work every day, but be unable to access the hard drive?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:21 | Link to Comment Debeachesand Je...
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All that infomation must be in the "cloud" somewhere,I think.

 

Yeah right.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:21 | Link to Comment MaxMax
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Wiping drives with sofware isn't the best method.  Physically breaking the drive is better.  Depending on how good the forensic guys are, often wiped drives can be restored if you have the right tools.  Even physically damaged drives can sometimes be resurrected.  Then there is the whole matter of were information is stored.  Do they really think that the sole copy of email resides on one computer?  That's not the way email works.   There are things involved like mail servers, backups not to mention all the data monitering by the governments.  Assume every phone call, electronic transmission,  online purchase, toll tag, etc is recorded because it probably is.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:25 | Link to Comment HD
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Maybe the friendly folks at the Utah Data Center can help. I knew losing my civil liberties would benefit someone.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Big Slick
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I never understand why people don't just smash, burn, drown their PCs.

Live by digital, die by digital I guess

(Also a slogan at the FED)

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:28 | Link to Comment forwardho
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+1 for the slogan!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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The best method is a hammer: to the HD platter. Adam Lanza knew how to do it.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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Plasma arc cutter is even better ...

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Matt
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1. magnitite dissolves in hydrocloric acid

2. magnitite has a curie point of 858 K

The magnetic storage part of  Hard Disk Drives are typically made of magnitite.

Maybe the Cyprus bankers use P2P PGP e-mail? You know, just to be safe. Otherwise,maybe  the emails were cleared off the servers every 3 months as part of their data retention policy.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 02:15 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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LOL - data retention policy FOR THE MUTHA FUCKIN WIN.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:27 | Link to Comment forwardho
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Thus the dates missing 2007- 2010.

Two+ years of overwriting "wiped" sections.

Gone.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:23 | Link to Comment Dr. Venkman
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I am sure this is limited to the BoC. TBTF banks are probably redoubling their data storage methods to ensure that when SHTF a full accounting can be made and all guilty parties are exposed.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:23 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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just buy the dip

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:24 | Link to Comment Zero Debt
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Thanks for the reminder. I was getting all excited about the news, thinking "This is the Big One". Sorry.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:30 | Link to Comment HD
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When the "big one" hits it won't be a 1% down day. Market will open up 500 points down and keep going. At least that's what I tell myself everyday when the bang the close.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:26 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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It really was an accidental delection.  I'm certain that the CEO never did anything to bypass the Finacnail rules and regulations

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:27 | Link to Comment One of We
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"...have had wiping software loaded, which is not part of the standard software installations."  LMFAO!

Of course they could just ask NSA to pull the data from one of their fusion centers? 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:24 | Link to Comment forwardho
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+1, One.

My first thought.

Great minds and all that...

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:39 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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     I wish someone would do that to the hard drive between Bernankes ears.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Jena
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There are viruses that can do that.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Like I keep saying, unless banks are forced to install black boxes capturing all transactions and communications, these banking scum will forever evade punishment.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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How about jail time until they produce the evidence. you can be sure they have the data hidden somewhere as 'insurance.' Spend time in the prison with some of the folks who got their dough stolen and i suspect they will talk.

 

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:33 | Link to Comment RSBriggs
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They probably have the data on an encrypted USB stick somewhere - right along with their Bitcoin wallet.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Matt
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Why waste money on prison? "I sentence you to live amongst the people whose money you lost". Like house arrest with the ankle tracker, except instead of your own home, one surrounded by the retirees, business owners, etc.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Alpha Monkey
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And a sign in the front yard informing all who pass by of the occupants crimes... maybe we need a list like we do for sex offenders.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:59 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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Take all their money except 100,000 Euros and dole that out at 300 a day max. Let them live like their victims, as well as among their victims.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Surprise, surprise. The old fashioned analog way of tying people to chairs with pillow cases over their head interogation methods are in order now.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:33 | Link to Comment asscannon101
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Not a problem. Back ups are probably somewhere in the basement of the Greek Ministry of Finance...

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Funny you should say that because they have a whole parliamentary inquiry going on over a missing/tampered USB given by Lagarde with lists of Greeks having foreign accounts. No action taken yet despite that USB being around two years old.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Telemakhos
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It was a CD at first, and that's "lost" now, while a USB memory stick copy has appeared.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagarde_list

They could just ask Lagarde for a new copy or to verify the copy they have, but no one has done that.  That should tell you something.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:33 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Or did they hit a BRIC wall?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:35 | Link to Comment css1971
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Where I come from this is called "Perverting the course of Justice" and is illegal in and of itself. Maximum sentence being life.

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:34 | Link to Comment The Abstraction...
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Anyone wiping data pertaining to 'financial crimes against humanity' is guilty of conspiracy to said crime and should be decapitated when Madame Guillotine is on tour.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:35 | Link to Comment sunnyside
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And Martha Stewart spent time in prison.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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She was too small to let her get away.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:38 | Link to Comment thewayitis
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  The ELite can do NO wrong .....

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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The elite can do anything they like until members of their own elite feel they have gone too far and are jeoardising the rest of them. Then they get taken care of.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:39 | Link to Comment Fox-Scully
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Not to worry--the US government has a copy of all transactions.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Tursas
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Of course they do have the copies - but would the US government really incriminate itself because of the tiny Cyprus?

Note that according to NY Court Jamie Dimon never manipulated the silver markets because he had no motive.  Could he have done it? Court said: yes, he can do that at any time - but as we the Court have not found any motive he has not done it!  

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Debugas
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do they store deposits accounts the same way ?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Anomalous Howard
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What?  You mean it's NOT zee BIS puppet-masters wiping with the savings of ordinary Cypriots??

Looks like a looooonnngggg chain of possible scapegoats and diversions has been set up.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:42 | Link to Comment mdtrader
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EUR/USD back to 1.3030 Cyprus bail-in euphoria high. Are people rushing to get into euros before the next confiscation lol.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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     You can't make this shite up. +1

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment the black arrow
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To hide financial crimes in the USSA they take down WTC bldg 7
In Cyprus they wipe hard drive. Hmmmmk.......

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Tursas
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On relative scale this is the same issue!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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If the investigation is stymied by an amateur attempt at file deletion on the local machine, then there are two possible situations. Either the investigators are fools, or they think we are.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:49 | Link to Comment Diplodicus Rex
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None of this story holds any water. None of the files mentioned are stored on the local hard drive of a PC. They are all accessed by SQL server and client. The 'wiping' software on the local hard drive would not wipe the server database. Furthermore, the database has multiple redundancy and backups. This story is cannon-fodder for the masses.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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We don't actually know how their laptops or desktops were configured or even how they were supposed to be configured.  They only messages of mine that would have ever been found on a bank SQL backup would have been those at arrived exactly during a backup and between the 3 minute sweeps the local .PST insurance policy connected my email client.  "Someone" could get the same data off a RIM wireless server, or off the client or server of the other party(ies) to a given message, assuming the message wasn't encrypted.

But if they didn't even give the "investigators" authority to issues subpoena locally then why should those investigators be expected to actually find anything...

The question is what now, a proper investigation and proper tools, or does it all swept under the carpet where it hopefully forgotten?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:50 | Link to Comment ForWhomTheTollBuilds
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Reminder:  If you are suspected of owning one bit coin or having a single encrypted email and you "wipe" your drive, you will be arrested as a domestic terrorist and held in solitary confinement until you plead guilty to charges you are not allowed to know. 

Man, I gotta become one of the elite before it's too late.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 11:58 | Link to Comment Vince Clortho
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Drat!  What a crummy, rotten break.  We are left with no choice but to assume that the owners of said hard drives are completely innocent of wrong-doing.

Obviously no one in Cyprus could be aware of a sophisticated technique called "backing up your data".

If only there had been a few computer geeks on that troubled island...

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:23 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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If only there had been a few computer Greeks on that troubled island...  Someone to find the backdoor.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:00 | Link to Comment Rusty Trombone
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So ...when do the assassinations start?  I mean I am truuuly surprised we haven't see these fuckers melons start exploding in lovely clouds of pink mist yet.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Monedas
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Up arrow for imagery !

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:03 | Link to Comment Ljoot
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Banksters can wipe my ass, shithole lickers they are.

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:11 | Link to Comment davepowers
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Is obstruction of justice a crime in Cyprus?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:21 | Link to Comment stock trout
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What are some good software wiping companies I can invest in? 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:24 | Link to Comment YouAreBliss
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At least there was an "investigation" - Banksters in this country didn't even have to go to the trouble of wiping their drives and e-mail files...just the chore of jaunting over to the HR department to find out when their Fed and TARP financed $30 million bonuses would be wired.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Monedas
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That bank hijacked itself ! Do the German people have to bail out this kind of crap, Herr Murkle ?

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Turin Turambar
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I'm okay with wiping.  Unfortunately, it was misdirected in this case.  Things will improve if it's the bankers who are wiped in the future.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:39 | Link to Comment BattlegroundEur...
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Those executives delete their Hard drives then the Cypriot PPl should "delete" these executives. Problem solved.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:45 | Link to Comment Satan
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Long paper shredders.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment Paracelsus
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  During the Iran/Contra Congress stuff (Ollie North), US AG Edwin Meese took three days to walk down the corridor and seal Lt.Col. Oliver Norths' office to preserve evidence for the enquiry.

Of course there wasn't any shredding going on in there.

"Everyone okay in there?".

" 'sallright!"

"Ya sure about that?".

" Yup,'sallright!".

"Ya sure you are okay?".

"Piss off, we're busy shredding stuff...."

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment paint it red ca...
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I have a retired career military/gubermunt neighbor that proudly claims to have worked with ollie out of utah during those operations.

Can you guess the kind of neighbor he makes??

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment paint it red ca...
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Water boarding is OK. Right?????

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Tursas
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Use olive oil and fire and start roasting!  It has worked for millenniums!

 

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 13:06 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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Wouldn't if be funny if we revoked their printing authority and forced TPTB to use their own cash?  

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Lewshine
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I recently saw a Fox news correspondent do an interview with her first cousin, who is a resident of Cyprus. In the interview the commentator asked her cousin how much money she reckoned to lose because of this fiasco. Her cousin responded; "Counting all family members, we have lost about 3 million euro". The cousin's next remark was the most amazing I have ever heard, she followed: "...But, we understand that savings accounts come with risk...We are happy just to have access to what's left".  Any questions on why the bangsters did this - They were allowed, and still are!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment NoWayJose
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Grab the servers and any backup tapes. Most email servers store the emails themselves too!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Squid ink data removal services apparently work.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment q99x2
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That's why the US of A has the NSA. When the decision is made to bring in the crooks that are running things now we'll have enough on them to send them and their families to Sing Sing forever.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment logicalman
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I'd bet NSA - CIA or some other alphabet soup gang have copies to use for nefarious purposes. Great blackmail possibilities here.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 16:29 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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FWIW Dept:

The pieces are finally coming together regarding the solidary 'templete' for Cyprus, and the 'Levant Basin', with an one eye on Lebanon and a strong arm on Syria?

Demarcation and America backing the Rebels [ al Qaeda?]?

"Cyprus seeks to speed up EEZ demarcation"   http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Business/Lebanon/2013/Apr-05/212638-cyprus-seeks-to-speed-up-eez-demarcation-with-lebanon.ashx#axzz2PcVcoxfg

"Can Lebanon Survive the Syrian Crisis" [Hezbollah?]    http://carnegieendowment.org/2012/12/11/can-lebanon-survive-syrian-crisis/escs

Note:  Back in early 2012 the blueprint for confiscation by the WB, IMF, Jerusalem/Israel, Troika, EU, and UN/Amerika already had a jack`boot readying their throats!

jmo

thankyou Tyler

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 16:39 | Link to Comment Joebloinvestor
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They will declare they didn't do it, it is a conspiricy against them.

Rulebook #1 from "French Denial 101".

The EU will show they are serious (actually Cyprus should!) when they march these two into the center square and put a bullet in each of them.

As long as Europeans put up with this shit it is only gonna get worse.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 21:35 | Link to Comment Izznogood
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Since 2008 Cyprus was run by (from Wikipedia)

 

The Progressive Party of Working People communist party in Cyprus. AKEL has successfully put into practice several socialist measures to support economic welfare of Cypriots during the late-2000s financial crisis such as increasing low pensions by 30% and strengthening the welfare benefits given to university students to €12 million per year. Overall, €1.2 billion were spent on welfare benefits during the first three years of AKEL in power, with various improvements made in social welfare provision.

I am sure the Cypriots are thankful for all the socialist measures the party has taken over the years ...

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