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Real March Unemployment Rate: 11.6%
Today, we got the laughable news that the unemployment rate declined even as those not in the labor force grew by over 660,000, while the total civilian non-institutional population grew by just 167,000 to 244,995, meaning the actual labor force declined by 496,000. Which is precisely the issue: fudging the labor force participation rate is how the Obama administration has managed to maintain the myth the economy has grown under his leadership for the past 4+ years. It hasn't, and in fact if one renormalizes for the recent long-term average participation rate of 65.8%, one gets a very different number. How different? A difference that is now at a record compared to what is reported. As the chart below shows, a "renormalization" process indicates a massive and record 4% difference between the reported unemployment rate of 7.6%, and what the real unemployment rate is assuming normal growth of the labor force, which in March was 11.6%, up from 11.3% in February, and the highest since August 2012 when it was 11.7%. More importantly, as the real unemployment chart shows, the economy has not improved by one bit since 2009!
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He lied?........What a FUCK!
No worries, HuffPo and all the other Federal Propaganda outlets are on it...blaming the sequester, no less.
For many low skilled workers, its simply better to be on disability (+medicaid!) than minimum wage + no health insurance.
WELCOME TO THE CESSPOOL
Iceberg? That's not an iceberg son, now go fetch me a life-preserver...
Last month:$85,000,000,000 in QE/88,000=$965,909 per job,
so 965,909x90,000,000 without jobs=$86,181,818,181,818. till full employment
it is only 1022 months away! or 85 years.
Let me tell you now, QE is NOT about jobs.
Funny how that 86 trillion is the same as the total unfunded liability of the Goobermint- wow simple math.
Very nice!
Agreed, nice, but you're not accounting for inflation.
What is funny is the implication that lying is unique to this or any president. Jimmy Carter tried to tell the truth a little bit 35 years ago and history still hasn't forgiven him.
Carter is a serial liar. The good Christian, lol.
Jimmy Carter was one of election watchers when Hugo Chavez came to power. He noted that the election had been fair. He did note over the years that followered how Chavez set himself up as Prez for life.
I think Jimmy Carter would sell my children into slavery becuase in his mind it is the right thing to doo. F**K Jimmy Carter.
Sadly, democratic elections don't always elect leaders committed to democracy (Germany 1932 comes to mind). From what I have read, the majority of Venezuelans seemed to support Chavez. To avoid hyperbole I won't mention the troubling state of democracy in the US. History is full of examples of how people are way more likely to vote for a demogogue that a pragmatist.
So I can't agree that Carter demonstrated dishonesty as an election observer in Venezuela.
The main criticisms of Carter are that he wasn't aggressive enough militarily, he allowed Panama to control the canal in their country, he approved a botched rescue mission in Iran mostly undermined by weather, he was in favour or energy conservation, he appointed an inflation hawk to the Fed and that he did not pander enough to his democratic base. He was highly undermined in Iran by elements of his own country's intelligence service, so like Kennedy, he was clearly naive about how much the president can go against the CIA or the mafia, and he paid the price. Summation: not Machiavellian enough for the job.
isn't it hilarious? CNBlowC AND FOX talking about it this morning... and missing it by a mile...
it's all sequester... I think they blamed Japan on sequester too...
we're just japan -10years ... they (JPY) used to just pass equities around among the banks and keep everything afloat... The problem is no one realizes you don't have capitalism any more... manufacturing requires investment in materials, etc. and the banks make big money on those loans... without the need for industrial loans, they have to feed themselves off depositors... it's been said here a number of times, that we have to change to knowledgeism rather than capitalism... and succumb to the fact that we just don't automatically get JOBS from knowledge... you get jobs supporting industry...
Can we now have a serious discussion re: trillion dollar coin?
Didn't you mean: Trillion YEN coin?
quadrillion yen!!!!!
I stand corrected, thanks LOP
QUADRILLYEN!!!!!
What comes after quadrillion?
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters Quintillion. Here is more information than you wanted...
Billion has 9 zeros
Trillion has 12 zeros
Quadrillion has 15 zeros
Quintillion has 18 zeros
Sextillion has 21 zeros
Septillion has 24 zeros
Octillion has 27 zeros
Nonillion has 30 zeros
Decillion has 33 zeros
Undecillion has 36 zeros
Duodecillion has 39 zeros
Tredecillion has 42 zeros
Quattuordecillion has 45 zeros
Quindecillion has 48 zeros
Sexdecillion has 51 zeros
Septendecillion has 54 zeros
Octodecillion has 57 zeros
Novemdecillion has 60 zeros
Vigintillion has 63 zeros
Googol has 100 zeros.
Centillion has 303 zeros (except in Britain, where it has 600 zeros)
Googolplex has a googol of zeros (i say Google Japan)
"you get jobs supporting industry..." - yes, but real production requires real inputs. What everyone needs to be fucking honest about is that real inputs have real fucking limits. The honest converstation that continues to be ignored is the issue of growth. Wake the fuck up, humanity isn't just another ponzi, it's the ponzi. I often wonder if the world got it's act together and everyone supported industry by becoming a good producer, I wonder precisely who the earth would be selling it's products to and what this other planet would be offering in exchange of real value to replace all the resources and energy we used to make those products? Stupid fucking sheep. As for all the financial "products" of mass destruction we have now, a banker prints a couple zeros in a few minutes and you work for your entire life to pay them back. "winning".
I was just watching Fox business. Stuart Varney had Austin Goolsbee on and he would not allow him to suggest that the sequester caused the March decline in jobs since any job cuts occured in April. Its obvious its the current policies and the rise in taxes at the end of FY12
It's serious, he had to lie.
nothing a little money printing can't fix!!
we print because the big banks need more sources of income... without an industrial/capitalist economy to lend too and make huge profits from... no business needs their money, so they must rob depositors somehow, and for that you need to print more money and create bogus bubble building investments...
the Obama administration has managed to maintain the myth
i think not
got PMs?
This on a Non POMO day
Who's in charge of scheduling? Burkhalter.....
Sympathies to the unemployed - but I want that deer on the screen today.
Its been a trial holding short strategies this last 10 days - a venison supper would be welcome.
Probably closes green anyway - just in anticipation of next weeks POMO extravaganza.
I sure as shit don't roll on Shabbis. Shomer Shabbis!
Walter, get over here and pick me up or I'm off the fucking team
I'm pretty sure the japs are in charge of managing markets on non pomo days no ?
Don't they work together on these things ?
Krugman, you moron ...... explain please.
@Roandavid
Yesterdays Bitcoin thread had a remark from our one and only Dr Paul Krugman or maybe an imposter or MDB who knows?
What he said was “Can you buy a cup of coffee with Bitcoin?”
In response several posters insured him that, WHY,,,, yes you can!, And even posted the URLs.
In my quasi defense for the Federal Reserve note I’ll add this.
The dollar can buy a cup of coffee. Back in the last depression around 1929 lots of people lost everything while the big banks bought up everything for pennies on the dollar. The phrase “hay buddy can you spare a dime for a cup of coffee” became a phrase icon for the poor. More important is the point, a dime for a cup of coffee, a dime for a cup of coffee, a dime for a cup of coffee, a dime for a cup of coffee, A DIME FOR A CUP OF COFFEE,,,, get it yet Mr. Doctor of econemy. Mr. Nobel prise in economic science. A DIME FOR A CUP OF COFFEE. You dick. Bitcoin will not do that!
by the way the NFP numbers are as fake as my avatar
So much for a great rotation lol. Look at emini haha http://tradingvix.blogspot.com/
But if we hadn't added $6 trillion more to our debt and $3 trillion more onto the Fed balance sheet, it would have been -- The Same!
One of O'Bummer's apparatchik's on CNBC (Kreuger) blaming the weak jobs report on the sequester.
Puppets and shadows, fakers and takers, muzak and scented circulated air, Pavlov, Pavlov.
Quick, more QE. The $85 billion monthy of QE has helpd so much, Not!
Let's just do a lot more dollar trashing.
The US is Japan only the US doesn't have the savers to buy the debt.
Watch Japan go off the cliff (happening now) and the US follow.
What does Bernanke and the Fed do with the debt???
It makes it disappear.
9 TRILLION Dollars Missing from Federal Reserve....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nE3BmhhWFFQ
Does any country want to hold US debt when it plays these accounting games?
Haven't you heard? This is all because of baby boomers retiring. It has nothing to do with the economy. Move along. Nothing to see here.
All kidding aside, even if you use a 60 month moving average of the LFPR the unemployment rate is about 9.5 percent or two percentage points above the stated rate.
It is laughable and the sheeple believe the MSM such as Bloomberg... I just wanna puke.
thank god, less overhead for the corporations, send her up!
Damn ....what is it with that accursed 1565 on the S&P? Ben you clearly need to print moar.
Good to see you, Dr.
Thanks. It's good to be seen. I'm spending some family time on the sunny coast of Florida. It's hard to stay away from the Hedge though.
Don't you ever dare to stay away! You're one of the main reason for me to finally register at the hedge ...
I concur. Sent you a question on another post.
Easy solution, start a new war on the Korean peninsular. That will create jobs in armaments and the re-arming and reconstruction after the devastation of the region.
Obozo needs to finish coaxing the Norks to nuke our one nominally prosperous State first. Two birds with one boom.
And I don't mean with a small device carried over our air-tight southern border.
No, I don't.
Really.
'cuz that would be impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8H2FIf1oH4
Well, the dollar is tanking and the Euro is rising, so that will help with the big names reporting earnings next week. Nothing like restating foreign earnings in a stronger currency.
One also wonders what one time charges will be thrown out this time to create EPS beats.
Can capitalism function without consumption? Can people earn money without jobs? Can housing recover with no residents? Can you build homes without actually using lumber, copper, and steel? Can something with no physical representation or store of value exponentially increase in value?
The answers seem so simple, an overwelming no. Yet somehow in the new normal we are lead to believe the answers are yes.
What is unemployement? I thought eveyone was just leaching off your money.
Originally the ego includes everything, later it detaches from itself the external world. - Frued
People don't react to reality, but to their imagination of it. That should explain enough.
I'll say Real March Unemployment is 23%
http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts http://www.shadowstats.com/article/no-508-employment-and-unemployment-money-supply-consumer-creditOh God, Pisani on CNBC saying "this is just a breather" about the DOW down 152 this morning.
Look at the 10 YR Treasury rate Bob, it's telling you something.
Employment sucks, there is no fucking recovery, we are being bled to death!
And oh yeah, the ECB, the IMF, and the FED think it's O.K. to steal your money!
Jesus.
This also leads to another great point:
The Fed's goal with QE is to "pump" the employment numbers, since they are so tied to bond yields.
They really have no interest in employing the economy and creating wealth and opportunity for the common man. QE is ALL about satisfying the bond vigilantes and the Market.
It's a scam, and they won't stop printing. Ever.
Reminds me of when Tony Montana was emptying the clip at the end of "Scarface":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT_D4NC2tBE
No it's not 11.6%. It's 23%.
What does the number matter, the whole would knows that 7.6% is laughable!
What are the real unemployment number totals? 16-20%?
Calculated Risk sez its all good.
The "economy" is indicated by the numbers in the DOW. You are talking about peoples lives, who the fuck cares about that?
Krugman keeps saying we are in a depression. He's right about that. Everyone else is lying about it.
Well, we could get out of a depression if we adopted his ideas. LOL
God damnit I should have bought more Gold yesterday!
Me too.
umm "should've bought more EURJPY GBPJPY yesterday."
what gold does... that does 3x more!
Just look at the Walmart empty shelf story.
I wanna know where MDB is, and why is he not here to defend his Messiah?
This economy is a 92 year old emphysema patient on life support, and Obama wants you to think it's about ready to run a marathon.
This President is a clueless fucking Marxist bumpkin, and if you have at least a high school education and you still voted for him, you're a fucking clueless bumpkin too.
Someone claimed MDB is a handle for PK. I'd like to know how they determined that bit of information.
Ouch!
Anything over 11% makes my bunions hurt.
The saddest part is that if people would take their minds of zombies, sports, and Kardashians for just a moment and notice what is going on around them, they would see without a doubt that no matter where you look in this nation (except for Washington DC), things are getting worse.