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Guest Post: Your Kids Don't Belong To You

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blizkrieg blog,

This is such an incredibly creepy video it’s actually hard for me to believe it’s real. Professor of political science at Tulane University and MSNBC host, Melissa Harris-Perry states the following:

We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents or kids belong to their families and recognize that kids belong to whole communities.  Once it’s everyone’s responsibility, and not just the household’s, then we start making better investments.

This clip is very important because it really demonstrates the mentality of a statist. They want to run your lives in every way you can possibly imagine, including the upbringing of your children.  Outrageous.

 

 

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Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:17 | 3419425 Winston Churchill
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You didn't procreate that.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:21 | 3419430 markmotive
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Neither does your money. All your base are belong to us.

Jim Rogers on how governments are stealing from us:

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/04/jim-rogers-governments-are-wiping-...

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:23 | 3419466 The Shootist
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Obama youth, Hitlery Jeugen, what's the difference between friends?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:27 | 3419493 AlaricBalth
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It takes a village idiot...

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:32 | 3419497 Supernova Born
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Hillary '16

The moron villager choice.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:39 | 3419551 CH1
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That was one of the more evil things I've ever seen.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:41 | 3419562 Muppet Pimp
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Send that link to any liberal who claims you are exaggerating when you say the democratic party is run by commies

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:51 | 3419618 Max Hunter
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The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.  Investment with this attitude.. yeah sure.. but unfortunetly it would be used as a step towards an Orwellian society instead.  Count on it..

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:02 | 3419628 Supernova Born
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You have to get over the notion that you belong to yourself.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:19 | 3419741 NoDebt
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So if one of my kids goes and destorys somebody else's property or steals something I can send the bill to "the community"?  Oh, no no no, only when they do what other people tell them do they belong to the community.  The minute they do something bad it's MY problem because I'm a bad parent and I'm responsible for them.

Tell you what, bitch, send your kids over my place for a few days, since I'm a member of the "community" too.  I'll teach them conservative values, the concept of delayed gratification and why winning is OK.  Then I'll give 'em back to you and you can have them discuss it with you and wreck your happy little home life.  Fair's fair if I'm really a member of "the community."

The fact that I entrust my children to others from time to time (teachers, for instance) should not be confused with my giving you ownership rights.  I assure you, when they chips are down, they're MY kids.  Always were, always will be.  If you're not their parent you're just a PART TIME CUSTODIAN.  In short, you're "the help."  Don't start thinking you own the place just because you work there.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:54 | 3419848 TwoShortPlanks
Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:18 | 3419953 flacon
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LEAN FORWARD = BEND OVER AND SPREAD 'EM

Because you're about to get "yippie-kay-yay'd" motherfucker!

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:25 | 3419961 Manthong
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Go to the doctor or the hospital any day and try to convince yourself that they don’t really own you.

Oh, and after you sign that HIPPA deception, ask the doctor how many codes he has to report to the government on your condition, or else he becomes a criminal.

Things are way worse than you likely realize.

Every kid alive in this country has already been totally digitized and is a part of the model that will determine who lives and who dies.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:27 | 3419979 flacon
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That's why I don't go to the DOK-TOR. I can count on one hand the number of times in my life that I've been there. If I die young, then so be it, but I ain't gonna get Obama (or Lloyd, or Jamie's) dick up my ass. 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:02 | 3420099 Harlequin001
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Pol Pot.

He made better investments didn't he.

Time to stop wasting money on educating women like this.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 22:14 | 3420513 monad
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That's not education.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 01:19 | 3420865 Scarlett
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This is stright out of "WE", the precursor to Brave new world & 1984.

"We passed through a room where we' found a few small children's beds (children in those days were also private property)."

 

And yes, the author was criticizing Totalitarian USSR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_(novel)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 08:34 | 3421295 johnQpublic
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if i get to have a say in raising your kids, we are going to start practicing eugenics

 

autism,downs etc etc etc will quickly become soylent green

 

no more misallocation of capital attempting to educate effectively retarded individuals

and thats just for a start

or you can take care of your own damn urchins

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 22:26 | 3420548 Anusocracy
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She's just verbalizing her hunter-gatherer mindset (i.e. morality) because to her, it's the way everyone should behave to ensure their survival. Unfortunately, that only works in a hunter-gatherer familial society of 100 or so people, a large extended family, not in societies of millions.

That's not to say that say that the pharonic-conservative mindset is any better, except in the area of property rights, where they are until they're not.

The only mindset that works in a modern technological world is the one that developed in that world: that of the freedom that is inherent in anarchists and minarchists.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:17 | 3420149 ClassicalLib17
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@Flacon,  Sir, I totally agree.  I am 59, I am a smoker for 41 years,  and a drinker for 38.  I stopped going to the doctor for a physical 5 years ago.  I no longer want to know.  What I really count on is my ability to prepare 3 healthy(simple) meals a day for subsistence.  I have witnessed the ever-increasing amount of frozen food(Pre-prepared meals) offerings at the local grocery store.  I'm shocked at the number of people who subsist on frozen meals and all the other processed garbage.       

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:08 | 3420306 BLOTTO
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One day the government may act as the surrogate parent...have a baby and they take over asap.

.

Think Hunger Games meets THX-1138 style

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:26 | 3419981 Richard Chesler
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Why wait till they're 18 and lose years of interest?
Young debt slaves are every bankster's dream.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:31 | 3420002 sun tzu
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Children will only be sent to Obama approved re-education camps

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:08 | 3420117 dark pools of soros
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do you have a permit for those kids?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:18 | 3419746 JPM Hater001
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My kids would destroy the village

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:37 | 3419801 TeamDepends
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Lean Forward (until you're bent over)

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:44 | 3419827 TwoShortPlanks
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Holdren's Ecoscience; it's all in there.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:53 | 3419874 surfsup
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She's not even speaking propper english... 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:15 | 3419938 EscapingProgress
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Children don't belong to anyone, parents or community. Children are free human beings, not property.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:46 | 3419985 WhiteNight123129
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You are correct. The parents are the caretaker and are in charge of bringing those young people to adulthood to the best of their abilities. The parents are naturally the ones who should take care of them, since their children is their flesh and blood and the fruit of the love of their parents, and the only thing which will remain of the parents when they die is their children. That is a very powerful incentive for the parents to do their best. As a result it is not surprising to see many parents sacrifice themselves rather than see their children perish. Do you expect this lady and hte state to do that? Hell no, they think they ~own~ children. Despicable.

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:24 | 3420179 fonzannoon
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It gives me the fuckin chills.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:03 | 3420289 Bastiat
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Here's what I see in this:  she's talking about the "underpriviledged."  We owe it to them.  It follows naturally from the fact the we have subsidized and incentivized over-breeding of the economically dysfunctional beginning with the Great Society--mulitple generations--we've instiutionalized economic dysfunction.   Reap the fucking whirlwind--and this bitch is the whirlwind.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 22:37 | 3420576 Anusocracy
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taking_Children_Seriously

 

Taking Children Seriously (TCS) is a parenting movement and educational philosophy whose central idea is that it is possible and desirable to raise and educate children without either doing anything to them against their will, or making them do anything against their will.

It was founded in 1994 as an email mailing-list by the libertarians Sarah Fitz-Claridge and David Deutsch. Deutsch is also a theoretical physicist at Oxford University.[1]

TCS begins with the observation that most traditional interactions between adults and youth are based on coercion. The TCS model of parenting and education rejects this coercion as infringing on the will of the child, and also rejects parental or educator "self-sacrifice" as infringing on the will of the adult. TCS advocates that parents and children work to find a common preference, a solution all parties genuinely prefer to all other candidate solutions they can think of.[2]

The TCS philosophy was inspired by the epistemology of Karl Popper. Popper was a professional educator himself before he started to do philosophy. In fact, philosophy was only a second option for him at that time, to be able to emigrate to escape the imminent Anschluss. He was active in the Wiener Schulreform (Vienna school reform) movement,[3][4] and there are connections between the psychology of learning, on which he did his doctoral thesis,[5] and his philosophy.[6] However, as a philosopher, he did not advocate any concrete pedagogy, although he had some general views on the issue.[7] TCS views Popper's epistemology, as Popper himself, as a universal theory of how knowledge grows, and tries to work out its profound implications for educational theory.

 
Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:36 | 3419826 buckethead
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As it should be.

One point is correct. Your children do not belong to you. They belong to themselves, as we all do. Not to some theoretical 'community'. Our children are under our supervision and we are responsible for their behavior. Not exactly ownership.

That said...

Fuck this bitches notion of community. She is another loudmouthed usurper looking for power via state coercion.

I don't normally condone remarks like we see in this thread, but maybe just this once.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:24 | 3420180 zerozulu
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She got no idea what she is talking about.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:46 | 3420244 mtomato2
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Oh, if only.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:15 | 3420324 Chump
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Yeah, she does, which is exactly why she is evil and dangerous.  This was a scripted spot, and likely shot many times to get it perfect.  It was carefully worded and planned.  She and everyone who shares her ideology hate freedom, hate you, and know exactly what they're doing.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:32 | 3420818 Manthong
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That crafted spot was done on a green screen.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:14 | 3419733 PubliusTacitus
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These assholes have no good intentions, and need to be addressed that way.

 

They need to be destroyed.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:27 | 3419980 Bobbyrib
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We all know what they are looking for is unlimited funds to educate America's youth. If you live anywhere, but NJ you can look at NJ as the ultimate extension of their plans. Some of our districts do offer a very good education, others not so much.. If you look at the more urban school districts you can see throwing more money at them is like flushing money down the toilet. That's where she is trying to go. She is saying you need to pay for the kid who doesn't want to learn. Just throw more money at the problem, it will solve the problem. I do find it troubling that the liberals don't seem to understand private property.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 23:41 | 3420728 thedrickster
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Yes, Melissa Cunt Hyphen Harris is a poster child.

Perhaps the Contras had a point.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:27 | 3420350 HardAssets
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Unfortunately, too many people - both 'right' and 'left' have No idea of what a Commie is. (Just ask some of the people you know this question.)  That 'investment' in 'education' that the evil woman in the video talks about has done as it was intended over the last 100+ years. 

" A nation of ignorant morons can never be Free" - paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson very loosely.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:13 | 3419734 McMolotov
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One of the good things about the upcoming collapse of society is that we'll be presented with the opportunity to kill people who think like her.

Just kidding.*

 

 

 

 

(No I'm not.)

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:25 | 3419792 Dead Canary
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I think your response is repugnant and offensive.

 

( no, not really )

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:44 | 3420039 FIAT
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Hold your fire until you see the yellow of their eyes.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:38 | 3420223 ClassicalLib17
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Deleted,  to disturbing to post.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:17 | 3420329 Chump
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Here's your +1 anyway.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:30 | 3420814 Jreb
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I've had to delete a few of those lately too. It's sad when we have to delete our own comments either out of fear of being watched too closely (some of us are resepectable people in our real lives :-) or out of shock of what just rolled off the tip of our brains.

I up arrowed you anyways.

Have a great night.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 07:44 | 3421176 HardAssets
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Well as a prof she's likely spent too much of her life in school where she's been brainwashed. No one is beyond hope.

In any case, she will be as relevant as 'Marxist scholars' in the USSR immediately after it fell.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:40 | 3419554 knukles
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Does this mean black people officially endorse salvery?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:21 | 3419776 akak
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And the circle is complete.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:33 | 3419820 Ralph Spoilsport
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Highly significant and very much something.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:42 | 3419841 akak
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The nib, the crustiest bit of the mattering thing.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:45 | 3419852 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Highly significant in its moral deficitis and very much duplicious. The very mettle, indeed the crustiest bits, is the untelligent strained logics and the fraudulous psychiastrics.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:00 | 3419882 akak
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Ah, more US 'american' citizen seeking of symmetry, expropriating of Indian lands, monolizing of the speeching means, blobbing-up, offuscation, throating of false ideas in the avoidance of self-indictment.  Not the first time since 4July, 1776.

When childrens and consumption are at stake, no measure is too far for 'americans' to assert property rights.  Children and cars and Indian lands, all same conflatuating thing.

Make me laugh.

In order to bake a cake, one must break some eggs.  But 'americans' want to eat their cake while saving the chicken ova for another day, while claiming property rights to baby ova.  Duplicity, ah the duplicity.

Since baby 'american' ova are going to public school on Indian lands and conflatuating this with the other thing, all is not very mattering, but parangongs of 'american' ideals are not bothered by the dissonancy.  It is second eternal nature to them.

Signed: An anonymous Indo-EasterIsland-Chinese Citizenism citizen.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:08 | 3419928 Ralph Spoilsport
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ROFLMAO!

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:13 | 3419939 Creepy Lurker
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Lulz! You've really turned that into an art form. Takes a direct line to the funnybone.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:24 | 3419971 TheFourthStooge-ing
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How the dupliciousness is symettricated?

Who is that US 'american' citizens? The hobbos frozening in the streets?

How is it dissonated when one person denies one's own parangongs?

This said, this kind of attitude is going to be widespread in the future.

But contrary to weather, the money supply is humanely commanded.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:39 | 3420019 knukles
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Ah, but the statist liberals I know claim that Bad Changes in the Weather are a Direct Result of Mankind's Behavior and the Weather Can Thus be Controlled, Eliminating the Bad Aspects, by Controlling Mankind.

The Genesis of the Global Warming Meme.
Not that it is or isn't AGW, true or not, but .... its that it is controllable

Fucking human arrogance.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:26 | 3419974 nmewn
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lol...I don't know how you do it.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:47 | 3420048 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, ah, it is the tao of US 'american' citizenism. Allow the duplicious eternal nature to embrace you.

That is exactly that. And one thinks the US buys finite resources like that, the picture comes clear.

That's kicking in row z.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:23 | 3420141 akak
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The Tao of the Master is indeed the crustiest, the most mattering thing:

“My teachings are easy to comprehensionalize and easy to put into practice.
Yet your 'american' intellect will never grasp them, and if you try to practice them, you'll fail.

 

My teachings are older than the world.
How can you grasp their meaning?

 

If you want to know me and my citizenism,
look inside your toilet bowl.”

 

-An An Oni Moose, Tao Te Chink

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:47 | 3420230 Ralph Spoilsport
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Menu from Hong Kong Takeout and Tatoos, where AnnoyingMouse is a waiter, shoeshine boy and Rush Hour Fluffer:

 

"Banquet specialities include cow's lung soaked in chili sauce, goose stomachs, fish lips with celery, goat's feet tendons in wheat noodles, shark's stomach soup, chicken-feet soup, monkey's head, ox forehead, turtle casserole, pigeon brain, deer ligament and snake venom, also lily bulb"

Can special order Famine Food (dirt)"

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:18 | 3420337 Chump
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I was still fuming and this whole sub-thread got me laughing in roughly 2 minutes.  I needed that, so many thanks.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:11 | 3419929 piliage
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Only those who are "academics". They get to use the rest of the reactionary Stalinists in the faculty cafeteria as cover.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:46 | 3420247 mtomato2
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AAANNNNNND Knukles is in for the save!!!

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:28 | 3420360 americanspirit
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This woman and her barely disguised anger at everything and everyone has been around for a long time - way too long IMO.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:56 | 3420455 newworldorder
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Knukles;

This is in keeping with "It takes a village to raise a child," meme. She will be in good company in 2016 when a certain person named Clinton will run for President.  A

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 03:56 | 3421009 AnAnonymous
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Does this mean black people officially endorse salvery?
_____________________

Was it not already the official version of 'americans' when they justified their slavery addiction by telling that negroes were already enslaving one another?

It is clear that the 'american' middle class, always greedy of such interpretations, will jump on that band wagon. It is how 'americans' behave.

Others might wonder how a few servants to the 'american' middle class can even represent millions of people they are not even elected by.

It is how 'americanism' works.

Suddenly, non elected personal are representative of a large amount of people. See how people living in dictatures are said to be responsible by 'americans' of the doings of the dictator, offering a rationalization of the invasion of the country.

And suddenly, while the 'american' middle class is involved largely in the voting process, the elected personal is simply not representative of them.

Conveniently.

Representation, legitimacy, authority.

A detonative cocktail when mixed by 'americans' who usually end with dilution of their own responsibility to spread it of their elected servants while they extend representativity to people who are not elected or even connected to a said segment of population.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 05:10 | 3421069 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

It is clear that the 'american' middle class, always greedy of such interpretations, will jump on that band wagon. It is how 'americans' behave.

At present moment, there is one guy, that is you, who is trying mightly to avoid looking in the mirror.

Others might wonder how a few servants to the 'american' middle class can even represent millions of people they are not even elected by.

It is how 'americanism' works.

Rule of the thumb: Chinese citizenism citizens, short on ethics, long on arrogance. Sure bet.

See how people living in dictatures are said to be responsible by 'americans' of the doings of the dictator, offering a rationalization of the invasion of the country.

And suddenly, while the 'american' middle class is involved largely in the voting process, the elected personal is simply not representative of them.

This stuff is known. So why not figure out that somehow people might have wanted to find a way to cull the possibility of it happening?

This guy, considered his possible level of education, is probably on a propaganda mode.

A detonative cocktail when mixed by 'americans' who usually end with dilution of their own responsibility to spread it of their elected servants while they extend representativity to people who are not elected or even connected to a said segment of population.

AnAnonymous theoretics are like physicians circa 1600: treat people through elaborated thesis. Any outcoume reinforce the validity of the elaborated thesis.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:17 | 3422468 akak
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A Chinese citizenism citizen barked:

A detonative cocktail when mixed by 'americans' who usually end with dilution of their own responsibility to spread it of their elected servants while they extend representativity to people who are not elected or even connected to a said segment of population.

Woo hoo, that is quite something!

One has heard of the pot calling the wok black, but here is the Great Leap Forward into Insanitation calling the roadside some shade of brown!  Rich, very rich, very mattering, somehow beyond risible.

Don't look now, but I think your Chinese hypocritizenism is showing.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:41 | 3419557 BoNeSxxx
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This is straight out of Brave New World and also Huxley's other writings.  He was a tool of the Royal Institute for International Affairs which grew out of the Round Table and the Milner Group.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:31 | 3420815 aerojet
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It's also straight out of Nazism--the fuckers indoctrinated kids and turned them against their parents, encouraged certain girls noted to have certain "master race" qualities to become sexual (against their parents' wishes) and when the parents protested, they turned the brown shirt thugs on them to shut them up.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:31 | 3421802 Chaos_Theory
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A good chunk of Progressive Men no doubt love abortion and the use of changing societal norms masquerading as "Womens' Liberation" so they can convince as many women and girls as possible to be cum dumpsters and then tell them how much they respect them.  One of many reasons I will never give up my firearms...or knives, hammers and a sturdy shovel.  And lime powder.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:25 | 3419790 Being Free
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It takes a Viking to raize a village.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:35 | 3420211 SubjectivObject
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You raise it, we raze it.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:42 | 3420238 DirkDiggler11
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The day will come very soon where these "progressive" statist fucks will be hunted like coyotes and hung from every tree.

Of course they make it that much easier by choosing to disarm themselves.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:22 | 3419450 ACP
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That was a trailer for a new Sci-fi horror movie, right?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:25 | 3419467 Bananamerican
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well, she DOES come from a tribal background...

unfortunately for her, i don't.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:46 | 3419512 Supernova Born
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Communist POS.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:08 | 3419706 WarriorClass
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These scum are BEGGING for a civil war and won't stop until they have one.  They just can't wait to use all those 2.2 billion bullets they've purchaed, and all those new assault rifles, tanks, drones and RPGs.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:57 | 3419889 Winston Churchill
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Exactly so.Way too overconfidant.

Trouble is they have let numerous cats out of the bag way too early.

Even the flock of sheeples are getting spooked now.

Do sheep stampede ?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:08 | 3419924 PeeramidIdeologies
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Lol they do, in the worst way, in fact even the animals that stand outside of the general herd get caught up in the commotion....

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:29 | 3419996 Miss Expectations
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"Governor, if I had foreseen the use those people
designed to make of their victory,
there would have been no surrender at
Appomattox Courthouse; no sir, not by me.
Had I foreseen these results of subjugation,
I would have preferred to die at Appomattox
with my brave men, my sword in my right hand."

Robert E. Lee

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:22 | 3419781 hivekiller
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Most people think like she does. Tribally. Can't make it as individuals.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:56 | 3419872 ACP
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The funny thing is, her tribe would'e already thrown her dumb ass off the nearest cliff for contributing nothing but discord.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:13 | 3420792 Bob Sacamano
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It is consistent with the current government dependency agenda.  No one can nor should be personally responsible for themselves or their family.  The destruction of the family is a part of the agenda. It really is communist. 

Gotta love MSLSD - at least they are upfront about their scary world view. 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:27 | 3419486 knukles
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Nope.

These uber leftist statist's athiestic refutations of Natural Law leads to that conclusion.... and we're surrounded by the fuckers.
With no organized opposition.
But allow me to make you feel better.

The YoBumma has just completed the first quarter of the second term
Meaning there are 15 more quarters yet to go.

 

I hear tell lotsa Ativan, Ambien, Oxy and Vodka does the trick

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:49 | 3419516 ACP
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Regarding your last sentence...I think I'll need something heavier after seeing that video, like maybe ether.

I was also thinking that Paul Verhoeven can use that clip in one of his movies...you know how he often puts commercials in between scenes to show how messed up society has become...

Edit; I also think it's ironic that a black woman wants children to become "property" of the state.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:54 | 3419624 Buckaroo Banzai
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“The only thing that really worried me was the ether. There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. And I knew we'd get into that rotten stuff pretty soon. Probably at the next gas station.”

--Hunter S. Thompson

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:05 | 3419687 ACP
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Bingo!

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:34 | 3420206 MisterMousePotato
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For the uninitiated, the reference is to Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

The only book that ever made me laugh out loud. Repeatedly.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:20 | 3419753 Boozer
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Good times.  Pass the bottle BB.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:42 | 3420032 knukles
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+ a whole lotta mayhem :)
Man, that brings back the bad old days....

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:21 | 3419958 MedTechEntrepreneur
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But, but, but look how neat and clean and pretty and pink she is!  How could that be a bad person!?/sarc

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:52 | 3419487 margaris
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Pink floyd's meat grinder of "another brick in the wall" comes to mind...

What a devious woman... what goes on in her mind? Must be something like this:

"We must build this giant wall. Your child must become a brick, or else we can't finish this wall (of the prison planet)."

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:21 | 3420803 StychoKiller
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You mean like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers?"

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:22 | 3419459 NuckingFuts
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Brave New World, Bitchez!

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:35 | 3419519 Winston Churchill
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Here your Soma, now shut up.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:43 | 3419839 The Shootist
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Well, most of today's youth are dope heads. Utterly lost.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:29 | 3419993 JohnnyBriefcase
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I'm ok with it as long as they are only on the illegal drugs.

 

I tell them to stay away from the legal ones unless they want to wake up in a car after shooting a bunch of people with no memory of how they got there.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:26 | 3420807 StychoKiller
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I wouldn't blame it on "dope" (Whatever that is!)

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:44 | 3420037 sun tzu
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Unfortunately, evil assholes like her are in charge of the schools and government

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:37 | 3420209 Charles Nelson ...
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"She's a malignant cunt"~ Paulie "Walnuts" Gaultieri

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:25 | 3419470 cdntrader
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Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 17:39 | 3419536 Ignatius
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1)  Elite money and agenda are supporting this cunt (and others like her).

2)  Elites drag us into massive conflicts like Iraq/Iran/WWI, etc., etc., but cleverly turn the focus to our supposed deficiencies and corruption ( I honestly don't spend a lot of time wondering/worrying what Iran has in mind, etc.).

3)  Likely that she actually believes she's solving social problems... hell, she's got a degree, money and a platform so she must (she thinks) know better and be on the right track.

Holy shit....

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:09 | 3419708 PeeramidIdeologies
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That's pretty sad that without knowning this woman, or her caseload, you are prepared to make ignorant statements to that effect. I hate to burst your bubble but not everything that the government does is pure evil. I have a close relationship with a social worker, whom isn't doing it for the money, which sucks relative to the workload, and who actually helps young parents learn to raise healthy families. It is one of the few positive influences the government enables.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:21 | 3419760 McMolotov
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Allow me to retort.

Over the past 50-100 years, as government has increasingly gotten in the business of helping people "learn to raise healthy families," the actual rate of healthy families in this country has declined significantly. This same phenomenon is observable in just about every facet of government intervention, from healthcare to education.

But maybe we just need to give the idiots more money, right?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:38 | 3419831 PeeramidIdeologies
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So now you are going to blame the government for people's failings as parents? It really is ALL the governmenta fault isnt it? Have you ever studied the curriculum of a social worker? I was unable to watch this particular video, but as I stated a friend of mine is a social worker, and the topics she covers with young families would easily supersede most of the ideas I see being thrown around here. Respect for the individual is one that is preached and simulatiously lost by many around here...

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:49 | 3420051 sun tzu
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Paying people money to have children out of wedlock. Who is to blame? After the Great welfare Society laws were passed and signed by LBJ, social workers went around black communities telling the women that they would receive free housing and money from the government if they had children and the father didn't live in the home.

The goal of any organization is to receive more funding and growth. How does the military industrial complex grow? Start wars. How does the welfare state grow? Create more poverty and dysfunction. I'm sure there are a few decent low level social workers. That doesn't mean the system is good. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:38 | 3421837 Chaos_Theory
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+1 trillion to the second paragraph.  As close to Occam's Razor as I've ever seen on the motivating factors of systems.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:38 | 3420220 TheObsoleteMan
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I studied the curriculum of Social Work for years, and I can tell you from personal experience, it is PURE SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM. The professors are MARXIST. Don't believe me? Just go to the website of any School of Social Work for any University. Or better still, go to the website of the National Association of Social Workers {NASW}. See for yourself. The majority of social work majors are black, Hispanic and female. Knowing that many of them come from a church going background, they are repeatedly told: "DURING YOUR CAREER, YOU WILL BE ASKED TO DO THINGS WHICH WILL BE IN CONFLICT WITH YOUR CHILDHOOD VALUES". This is code for: "Forget your christian ethics, the state is supreme." Anyone who tells you different is either dishonest or delusional.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:19 | 3420334 Bastiat
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Yes.  Back in the mid 70s I was chatting with a Sociology prof,  and he said, with a shrug, at one point:  "Well it's been said that Sociology is the child of Marxism."  

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 04:01 | 3421012 Kobe Beef
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Ahhh...Sociology: The "Science" of Communism.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 01:07 | 3420854 it aint paranoi...
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Your response is reductio ad absurdum- you take another's statement, an then stretch it way beyond the speaker's intent, to the point of making the statement absurd.  This is so common now in many aspects of society and it doesn't even go noted, nor called out as one of the weakest form of reply.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:55 | 3419885 lunaticfringe
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I have read through the entire thread and I landed here. Excellent comment and of course you are right.

We have an epidemic in this country. An epidemic of self centered thinking. These fucking people rarely ever think about anyone other than themselves. They don't think about outcomes and they sure as hell don't study history or human behavior or they would realize that they are full of shit. These ideas aren't new. They were tried long ago and they failed. It takes a village to raise an idiot. Her village worked hard.

We have a culture of self centered, egoic nutjobs, who all think they have the answers. The students have left the building. http://thecivillibertarian.blogspot.com/2013/04/an-unremarkable-life-sun...

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:47 | 3420049 PeeramidIdeologies
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Good point ego is a tricky one. I won't pretend to have complete control of mine, but I try to maintain an awareness of it, through objective thinking. I believe many have a lot to learn about ego and the way it can negatively influence your mindset

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:55 | 3420256 SubjectivObject
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Dewdles, State Power is more dangerous, oppressive, and degeneratirve than any bunch of isolated selfreferential egos running around shooting up the place.  They may kill 3000, 27, or whatever the latest number is, but once they're taken out, the local problem stops.  Unlike your Police State which hasn't yet acknowledged that memo.

Just admit it; you're and epoistic statist that wants, needs, to see your organizational percepts and principle imposed on the commons. 

Here, I'll blow you a KISS: Ego; Mammal with a thinking brain in tow.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:08 | 3420307 PeeramidIdeologies
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How about this I'll admit it would be nice to see a world that is able to communicate and work together, without needing guns and angry mobs displaying hatred as their code of conduct.
Then you can stop trying to fit me into your colluded labels, which are completely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things...
Nice touch on the ego... And look at that I damn near got a prefect score on this thread!

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 22:48 | 3420599 SubjectivObject
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The contemporary history of your statist aspirations to concentrate power in the hands of a few, uh ... egos, has resulted in the fragmentation of culture and on the ability/capability to talk to each other.  Check it out, the development of any practice for the spiritualization of the individual began outside the extant state governance, and this irrespective that its finally degenerate form as religionism being eventually coopted by the state.

Oh, and "needing guns" and such, your statist powers have moar guns and killed moar innocents than any of history's angry mobs.  Angry mobs I can deal with, empowered and insular states, much less easily.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 01:10 | 3420857 it aint paranoi...
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"but I try to maintain an awareness of it, through objective thinking"

 

you have failed.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:19 | 3419762 Ignatius
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Listen here, fucko, you're right on what would be an important technicality... but I'm not asking to take her children because I think I know better.

Jeesus, man, use your brain and think.

Start with the work of John Taylor Gatto and the history of compulsory schooling.

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:55 | 3419875 PeeramidIdeologies
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As far as I know child care is completely voluntary. Until the parent is unable to provide the necessities of life to their child. At which point there aren't many good options left.
If you spend time interacting with your children, then you will never need worry about what other people are telling them. From what I see in the world today many people could use a little more community minded education.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:10 | 3419926 Ignatius
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"As far as I know child care is completely voluntary."

Holy-b-fckn-Jeesus, man

Child care used to be your parents, your MOTHER for christ's sake.  If this seems harsh it's 'cause I had your fuckin' disease, but found reading, thinking, time and contemplation to be the cure. 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:17 | 3419949 Ralph Spoilsport
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Almost sounds like a troll or a bait-bot but he seems sincere.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:55 | 3420080 PeeramidIdeologies
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Do you find it strange that I would sound sincere amongst this cheer-leading mob of violent anti-socials? This must be an American thing to identify threats everywhere you look.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:00 | 3420094 knukles
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Most definitely not everywhere.
Just where we clearly discern such.
Like you at the moment.

 

Stop with the Paul Krugman logic

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:26 | 3420181 Ralph Spoilsport
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It does sound like Krugman speak now that you mention it.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:26 | 3420183 PeeramidIdeologies
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Funny that in a free country, freedom of speech and thought would be considered a threat. Mind you this is a lost cause, not a krugman cause. Btw social workers will most likely see some of the worst of the budget cuts, so you guys need not worry bout that little problem...

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:56 | 3420266 Ralph Spoilsport
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I don't think anybody here feels threatened by your freedom of speech and thought. That strawman won't hunt.

The "social workers" are in some kind of union like AFSCME aren't they? Should be fun watching any attempt at laying those people off.

http://danedocs.countyofdane.com/webdocs/pdf/emprel/Social_Worker_Wage_S...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 04:26 | 3421037 Turpentine Soul
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We pick up your fucking garbage.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27kDtIoL1L4

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:24 | 3420174 Ralph Spoilsport
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No, what's strange is how you act like you're surprised at the reaction to your posts. Your account has been active 48 weeks so you've had plenty of time to get a feel for the place.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 02:16 | 3420860 it aint paranoi...
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I don't doubt your sincerity, it scares me.  It is obvious that Hitler, Stalin, Mao Tse tung were all "sincere."

 

If in doubt, just ask any of the MILLIONS they killed.

 

Bush might have been sincere about Iraq.  Many Americans are sincere, but they allow their country to become a military empire.  How's that working out for us?

 

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:07 | 3419921 Joey9139122
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Your friend should kill hiself.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:10 | 3420123 quasimodo
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W.T.F?? Are you MDB's love child?

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 21:02 | 3420286 Charles Nelson ...
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I know a Social Worker as well, my wife's best friend. Nice girl, I wouldn't let her water my flowers if we went away for a weekend.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 04:05 | 3421023 AnAnonymous
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I hate to burst your bubble but not everything that the government does is pure evil.
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It goes without saying.

'Americanism' is a success story of the State. 'Americans' worship the State and its institutions. See for example in 'america' the worship given to the military, with so many joining and crying if they are rejected.

But it is all about monopolizing.

The State is only good when it works for a specific kind of 'americans'

Assault on this woman does not come because she pushes out an un-american vision of things.

It comes because she is part of a sensitive segment of population for 'americans'.

When you run a business of extorting the weak, farming the poor, the extorter and the farmer communauty must remain a close communauty. Either that or you endanger yourself of running out of weak and poor.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 06:37 | 3421115 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous said:

It goes without saying.

...which means this guy will somehow pour endless repeations of drivels. It is easy to find a wok to stirfry a dog.

'Americanism' is a success story of the State. 'Americans' worship the State and its institutions. See for example in 'america' the worship given to the military, with so many joining and crying if they are rejected.

The guy came with a simplified example. An example of what? What is going on in real life? Or what is going on in fantasy land?

But it is all about monopolizing.

The State is only good when it works for a specific kind of 'americans'

Awesome. Try your luck at the local circus. They must look for contortionist talents, you'll do great.

Assault on this woman does not come because she pushes out an un-american vision of things.

It comes because she is part of a sensitive segment of population for 'americans'.

You made me laugh with this one. Good luck in trying to illustrate this point. These are tough times for propagandists. They are caught naked on multiple events.

When you run a business of extorting the weak, farming the poor, the extorter and the farmer communauty must remain a close communauty.

This guy could write the Poor Farmers' Almanac. What duplicity. The eradication process has been much more efficient in Chinese citizenism. It really shows that some Chinese citizenism citizens are unable to depict themselves as they are.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:21 | 3419774 mobtown
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I thank my lucky stars that I got to raise my kids on my own and didn't let this shit influence them. I protected them and I'll take credit for that. Fuck you pieces of shit that want to control my kids, my money, my life.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:04 | 3419906 mobtown
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And another thing, why the fuck everytime I turn on the radio do I need to hear how I should teach my kids about not having sex. Why is that something that the fucking government has anything to do with?

Why is the u.s. govnt. spending any of my fucking money on telling me how to do anything? Stop telling me what to do. Leave me alone.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 18:55 | 3419880 Everybodys All ...
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The times may change but at the end of the day all these Marxist's think alike and they are very dangerous.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 19:51 | 3420062 sun tzu
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It all starts with the schools. Even if you homeschool or teach your kids right, those marxist fuckers can brainwash millions of other children and eventually take over. 

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:55 | 3420261 Tapeworm
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Nationalizing Children

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/

Grigg does a lot better than the short bit above.

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 20:58 | 3420272 GoLeafs
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Where I live, teachers now call themselves "co-parents"...

Sun, 04/07/2013 - 23:56 | 3420762 IrritableBowels
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Where's that fucking guy from earlier today who was saying that ZH was a conspiracy/fear mongerer site? This is fucked.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 00:30 | 3420813 persu
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Finland is a role model.

Child custody is a growth business, up 20% a year.

State believes it is able to raise kids better than parents.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 01:22 | 3420869 it aint paranoi...
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Why not let the state rasie your child?

How many people have been killed by your government today?

When the US gov't can do math (balance their budget), when it can play well with others(how many wars has it been now?), when it quits stealing (april 15), when it quits lying (fill it in yourself), bullying, standing by when theft occurs (MF Global)....

 

When the US government can behave as well as a 5th grader, THEN and ONLY THEN should we start having this discussion.

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 04:09 | 3421024 AnAnonymous
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State believes it is able to raise kids better than parents.
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An 'american' State is as able to raise 'american' kids as 'american' parents are.

Trouble is that mass production of 'americans' worldwide leads to an overpopulation of 'americans', an issue that 'americans' know no other solution to but to try to shed issues on the rest of humanity.

Severe bottleneck in the making.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 06:49 | 3421127 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Trouble is that mass production of 'americans' worldwide leads to an overpopulation of 'americans', an issue that 'americans' know no other solution to but to try to shed issues on the rest of humanity.

Next wait for this guy to tell the Chinese citizenism solution on overpopulations.

Would be interesting to know. For comedy value, because for knowledge value, the answer is already known. Picture giving value of one thousands words:

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/graphics/eating_babies2.jpg

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:18 | 3422451 akak
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Ah, hitting the Chinese citizenism nail on the ear is done again for the manyth time!

But alas, all scrapegoatings and inability to self-indict of parangongs of depreciatory anti-'american' propagandas will lead them to flee from the scene.  Chinese citizenisms are not moth to the truth flame, after all.

This is the way it is.  The chinese citizenism pot can only call the wok black from afar, from the depths of offuscation and insanitation. 

No other way is in the making.  Oil and water, oil and water.

Chinese citizenism rivers run with the stuff.  Oh well, river pigs seem to like it.

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