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Pigs, Ducks, Black Swans, Chickens And Now Fish: The Shanghai Animal Apocalypse Accelerates

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Shanghai just can't catch a break - first it was floating dead pigs, then ducks, then black swans, then mass chicken exterminations, and now fish. From the Telegraph: " Just weeks after over 16,000 putrefying pigs were pulled from Shanghai's Huangpu river, more than 250kg of dead carp had to be retrieved from a river in the city's Songjiang district. Mystery still surrounds the cause of death, but numerous explanations have surfaced in the Chinese media since residents first complained about the foul-smelling fish last Monday. Theories reportedly include climate change, electrocution, an explosion or even a drug overdose. The Shanghai Daily quoted a local government official who "speculated" the fish could have been "drugged." So, in China things are so good, even the fish are ODing on sleeping pills? Hardly, but the fact that this is even floated "out there" just shows how miserably The Onion has missed its IPO window.


China has become notorious for its polluted rivers, largely as a result of decades of unbridled economic growth. Last year a senior official conceded 20 percent of the country's rivers had become "too toxic for human contact".


Shanghai authorities have so far denied the "fish kill" was caused by water pollution, citing the absence of chemical plants near the river.


Whatever the cause, authorities insist there is no risk to public health or drinking water sources.


"The river's quality hasn't been affected by the dead fish so far. It remains the same level as usual," an official named as Mr Zhang told the China Daily. He did not explain what the usual level was.


Nor was there a connection between the dead carp and the thousands of rotting pig carcasses pulled from Shanghai's Huangpu last month, local environmental official Liu Fengqiang said.

Of course not - that was a completely separate instance of mass drug-facilitated suicide.

One river-dweller told the China Daily he had stopped using tap water in the wake of the two scandals. "I need to trust my sources of water. I'm still haunted by the dead pigs," Shi Hua said.


Meanwhile, samples of the dead fish have been sent for testing and the fish themselves have been laid to rest.


"All the dead fish plucked out of the water were buried safely," the Shanghai Daily reported.

... And have already been sold by local restaurants as KFC's latest mystery meat?

All of the above visually, courtesy of George Chen:


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Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:35 | 3421533 Mercury
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Damn, if a carp can't survive...there is some seriously toxic shit in that water.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:36 | 3421540 CPL
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Hypothesis: As has happened in the past, the already-anoxic oceans have grown considerably more anoxic because of changes in the Gulf current that distributed heat around Florida, up the east coast and then to the east. As a result, as has happened before, the anoxic 'dead zones' are pluming clouds of deadly invisible hydrogen sulfide gas into the atmosphere. Consequently, the ozone layer is being reacted away (H2S + O3 --> H2O + SO2), exposing the Earth to rising and probably ultimately lethal levels of UV radiation and causing a major increase in mutations and genetic chimeras all around the world.

This process is also allowing in more heat, which is now accumulating in the Gulf, along the east coast, and in other areas of the world's oceans, lakes, and seas, and beginning to dissociate the methane hydrate deposits. (Confirmed.) Because the H2S eats away the hydroxyl radicals as well as ozone, and because the hydroxyl radicals are what would NORMALLY mitigate methane in the atmosphere, the resulting methane plumes will last considerably longer, enhancing the oceanic heating, causing more H2S plumes, making the methane last longer...and so on.

The rising H2S levels in the atmosphere are killing off aerobic (oxygen-using) life on Earth. This began some time ago, with bees and small lizards, and has worked its way up the size ladder as the atmospheric plumes have increased in concentration, and this process has escalated radically since the Gulf circulation significantly changed in 2010. Now the H2S is wafting down into low-lying areas and killing people there in increasing numbers, and it is making its way into homes now too and killing multi-person households, as well as fish, birds, trees and other oxygen-using life around the world.

Because hydrogen sulfide and methane are both highly flammable gases, their interaction with our flammable fuels infrastructure (cars, planes, jet skis, boats, homes, hotels, businesses, chemical plants, ammo depots, etc) is problematic and is leading to increases in fires and explosions, everywhere generally, but more on and near the coasts. Also, hydrogen sulfide is extremely fast-acting (it is deemed a 'knockdown agent' for this reason) and people driving any type of vehicle are likely to be affected, either rendered unconscious or dead, and this will cause an increase in major vehicular accidents of all kinds which has already begun.

Hydrogen sulfide is a heavier than-air-gas and will be accumulating in low-lying places: the oceans, seas, lakes, rivers, ravines, ditches, quays, canyons, valleys, gorges, streams, etc. Water is also heavier-than-air, so wherever you find water you are likely to find H2S accumulating. Methane is slightly more buoyant than (normal) air so it will mix and be generally everywhere, but will tend to fill up our atmosphere from the top down.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:38 | 3421554 Pladizow
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This whole story smells a little fishy to me!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:50 | 3421581 hedgeless_horseman
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Pigs, Ducks, Black Swans, Chickens And Now Fish

What, no rabbit?

Want a cleaner, better life? 

Get out of the city and grow your own food.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:52 | 3421599 DutchR
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In a few years this will be a 'World Press Photo' winner.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:53 | 3421602 NoDebt
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Thank you for not posting pictures of your delicious-looking home-grown bounty at 11:30.  9:45 is OK.  Just please don't do it at 11:30 any more.  It makes my lunch look..... not so great by comparison.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:08 | 3421614 hedgeless_horseman
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I'll gladly ship you some rabbit terrine, Fed-Ex.  It will still be very good for a picnic lunch in the park tomorrow.  You want cheeses, too?

Maybe pick up a bottle of Chateau de Saint Martin Cru Classe Eternelle Favorite and take the afternoon off?  Don't forget the gerkins.


Vote Epicurean, 2016!  
We cannot do any worse.


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:10 | 3421678 NoDebt
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Well, the weather is certainly good enough for a picnic (finally!).  If you're offering, I'm accepting!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:23 | 3421720 hedgeless_horseman
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If you are bold enough to post an address, then I am happy to accomodate you. 

I will be available for pm on ZH_Chat for 15 min.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:18 | 3422269 The Big Ching-aso
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Shanghai Smorgasbord.       


"Dine on the river.   All you can eat and shit for only $7.99 - while supplies last."

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:34 | 3421810 TheMeatTrapper
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I trap my meat. Organic, free range, steroid free, antibiotic free. Mother nature feeds them and weeds out the sick. I collect the rest.

I caught these four yesterday morning:

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:36 | 3421827 hedgeless_horseman
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Awesome!  Nutria, the other white meat.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:26 | 3422006 LawsofPhysics
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If you don't think that there is made-man steroids in the environment, especially in certain areas of the world, you are a fool.  Bring some of the soil/water in for testing just to be sure.  Trapping in rural suburbia is great, but understand those beavers may be downstream from several water treatment or or chemical output facilities.  Know what the watershed is like and what lies above.  Very very important.  No fucking way I'd eat a beaver caught within 200 miles of any coastline.  especially if there was more than one urban (more than 100,000 people) center in between.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:32 | 3422331 TheGardener
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Carp grows best in sewage. I have a hundred year old book
where they explain how to drain your pond, put in all the manure you can and fill it up again and it will work next best (!) to the village pond where ALL the sewage passes through. Hard to kill a carp with shit, but a few drops of
oil/diesel will do the trick in a pond.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:36 | 3422347 LawsofPhysics
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Sure, my point was simply that, unless you know exactly what is in the food source and water that the fish are living in, you don't have a clue as to what can be found in their fat/proteins.  I have known a souple people with "carp ponds".

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:43 | 3422367 Hulk
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Carp Souple People, its whatz for dinner, Bitchez !!!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:42 | 3422951 RafterManFMJ
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You actually eat beaver? What does it taste like?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 15:02 | 3423077 Jugdish
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Well RaftermanFMJ it depends. If they are between 19-30 yrs old, white or Hispanic, between 110-135lbs, usually very very good. There are some deviations that taste very good but I wouldn't venture too far. Make sure it's the right time of the month and the beaver hasn't spent too much time with other nearby damns.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 15:14 | 3423141 TheMeatTrapper
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I've been eating it for years. It's a very lean red meat much like bison or buffalo. I grind it into burger or sometimes make a stew. Here's a brief write up of how I do it.

I'd rather take my chances on eating an animal that I catch, skin, and butcher myself than trusting my food supply to a corporation that is concerned with profits over quailty. I know the environments that I trap in, I know what they are eating and I know what shape every animal is in because I butcher it myself. 

I can take a dollars worth of aircraft cable and catch a weeks supply of meat for my family. The return on materials is pretty good. Interestingly enough, I recently gave a seminar to a local prepper group from a local church. People are hurting with the high cost of food, and they are starting to wake up - at least around here. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:24 | 3422043 MrBoompi
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I don't know how 300 million people will be able to get out of the city and grow their own food.  After experiencing one of the worst droughts in recent history here in the midwest, and the growing concern about dwindling water supplies, even if we were able to get a little land outside of the city we may not be able to grow anough of anything to support ourselves.  Hopefully rainfall will be in the normal range this year.  There seems to be a lot of emphasis on money, and not so much on the environment.  You can't eat, drink, or breath money, and we tend to forget that.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:31 | 3422079 LawsofPhysics
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Correct.  In addition to rain, there are a lot more nutrients that the plants need.  Specifically, many different elements (N, S, P, Mg, Fe, C, Se, Ni, etc.), in the correct oxidation state.  The last bit is the tricky part, as getting an element into the right oxidation state requires energy and time regardless of whether or not you do it naturally (composting) or via Dupont and store-bought fertillizer.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:22 | 3422302 The Big Ching-aso
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I think it's time to light that phucking river on fire and have one helluva Szechuan barbeque.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:44 | 3422589 PKF
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Hoping that the Extremely Wealthy Thieves will have to saute their $100 bills and assorted Treasuries in a pan coated with water that once held swine, carp, and swans for their dinner.  Then let them choke down the meal and later watch with horror at the many paper cuts as the meal exits from the other end.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:31 | 3422078 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Pladizow said:

This whole story smells a little fishy to me!

ROR! Fishness olfactory sensationality not even the half of it.

From TFA:

    "All the dead fish plucked out of the water were buried safely," the Shanghai Daily reported.

... And have already been sold by local restaurants as KFC's latest mystery meat?

Don't put it past them. After all, they built a KFC on the former site of Unit 731, the WW2 complex where the Japanese carried out human experimentation involving chemical and biological weaponry. This is also where the plague-infested fleas, later dropped on Chinese population centers, were cultivated.

Here's the Unit 731 KFC - finger lickin' good:

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:54 | 3422389 fourchan
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china is toxic.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:16 | 3422782 akak
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I think this quote by respected Chinese citizenism environmental authority says it all:

"The river's quality hasn't been affected by the dead fish so far. It remains the same level as usual,"

So apparently, the "usual" water quality here is water befouled by thousands of dead fish (among any number of other decomposing vertebrates).

Ah, Chinese citizenism environmental contamination insanitation! 

Blobbing-up filth is the mattering thing, quite literally the crustiest bit of it.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:41 | 3421555 Lmo Mutton
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Soooo, I should go long Mars furtures?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:49 | 3421587 DutchR
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Fuck me, i'm buying tinfoil.......

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:56 | 3421926 Overflow-admin
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IMHO this theory cannot apply to rivers: the gases (H2S, CH4, CO2, whatever they are) need to reach a very high concentration (in comparison to average atmosphere composition) for the dose to be lethal. I don't know any river deep enough and calm enough so that could happen.


The fact that a gas is "heavier than air" isn't sufficient to imply that it will accumulate in low-lying places. Meteorological conditions are a bitch (ascending/descending currents)!


But I concede lakes and oceans do in some cases contain deadly gaz reservoirs.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:58 | 3421939 Smiddywesson
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At least in my trading, I have found that the more complicated my argument becomes, the more likely I am to lose money.  CPL's argument is complicated, alarmist, and bizarre.

"Now the H2S is wafting down into low-lying areas and killing people there in increasing numbers, and it is making its way into homes now too and killing multi-person households"

"Consequently, the ozone layer is being reacted away (H2S + O3 --> H2O + SO2), exposing the Earth to rising and probably ultimately lethal levels of UV radiation and causing a major increase in mutations and genetic chimeras all around the world."

"Because hydrogen sulfide and methane are both highly flammable gases, their interaction with our flammable fuels infrastructure (cars, planes, jet skis, boats, homes, hotels, businesses, chemical plants, ammo depots, etc) is problematic and is leading to increases in fires and explosions, everywhere generally, but more on and near the coasts."

"This process is also allowing in more heat, which is now accumulating in the Gulf, along the east coast,..." 

LOL, I bet the people on the East Coast would disagree with that last one.  I return to my original argument: 

You can't think straight because you know too much.  Stop reading and get your head on straight.  People are not passing out from knock down gasses, my mower is not going to suddenly burst into flames and cause me to spill my beer, and H2S is not going to sneak into my bedroom and strangle me in my sleep.  What you are doing is scaring yourself witless and giving political capital to the very same people making money off of pollution in the first place.  If they have thier way, they will use your tax money to gin this up and do more of the same.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 06:40 | 3425419 Machination
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Well he did say "theory".  And I would not discount the possibility. which states: "Hydrogen sulfide has been implicated in several mass extinctions that have occurred in the Earth's past. In particular, a buildup of hydrogen sulfide in the atmosphere may have caused the Permian-Triassic extinction event 252 million years ago."

When you think about the Siberian permafrost turning to rotting swamps, all the fracking going on globally (natural gas can contain up to 90% H2S), growing "dead zones" in oceans, river and lakes, it is not hard to imagine this outcome over time.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 06:40 | 3425420 Machination
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Well he did say "theory".  And I would not discount the possibility. which states: "Hydrogen sulfide has been implicated in several mass extinctions that have occurred in the Earth's past. In particular, a buildup of hydrogen sulfide in the atmosphere may have caused the Permian-Triassic extinction event 252 million years ago."

When you think about the Siberian permafrost turning to rotting swamps, all the fracking going on globally (natural gas can contain up to 90% H2S), growing "dead zones" in oceans, river and lakes, it is not hard to imagine this outcome over time.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:12 | 3422267 Bicycle Repairman
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Sounds to me like we need a hydrogen sulfide tax.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:12 | 3422270 paddy0761
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Hey CPL - Don't fart!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:37 | 3421545 Freddie
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The idiots on the left blaming global warming.  Their marxist/kleptocrat pals the Chinese destroy everything they tough.   The Chinese are like the Detroit-types of Asia.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:44 | 3421568 Van Halen
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This is what happened when the "climate change" crowd took over the environmental movement. It stopped being a movement about the environment where they heavily focused on pollution (a worthy cause) and became this esoteric hot/cold/wet/dry/always the fault of the Right and Democracy and Capitalism 'climate change'.

Notice you hear very little about pollution any more. The entire movement is about telling you what new taxes you need to pay and what you can and cannot do in order to reduce 'emissions'. And then we see ClimateGate, where these guys got stone cold busted admitting they were ginning up numbers, lying about the results, and blocking any other scientists who could show otherwise.

More than likely, the fish were dumped or died as a result of some kind of pollutant. But this is China - the darling of the Left and one of the most polluted hellholes on the planet. One never knows.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:09 | 3422259 Freddie
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They wrecked the (old) Sierra Club.  The Sierra Club was a good group about protecting the environment.  One of the things they were against was uncontrolled illegal immigration which caused more sprawl. 

The Sierra Club was then hijacked by the Democrat Party so now they are pro-open borders and I would bet most of these enviro groups are funded by the Saudis and other ME oil countries.   Lib-turd Matt Damon got busted doing his anti-Fracking movie which was funded by Abu Dhabi oil money.  F TV and F Hollywood! 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:49 | 3421591 pods
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Nah, looks like shiners (first 3).
Carp have a lower mouth.

Shiners aren't particulary hardy either.  They aren't as fragile as menhaden, but we used to see die offs in summer during a hot spell and low water.


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:20 | 3422472 Intoxicologist
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Obviously, no one ever lost any silver to the bottom of the Huangpu.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:35 | 3421535 Disenchanted
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Would you like flies with that ___________?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:35 | 3421536 CaptainAmerica
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Sounds fishy to me

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:25 | 3422050 mudduck
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Just another red herring. No trout about it. Coddling on that scale is bound to finnish off a few of the bigger flounderers and even some of the small fries will be belly up.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:26 | 3422807 akak
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Oh, get off your high perch and stop carping about a few dead fish.  Just for the halibut, can't you sing any other tuna?  I mean, damn, what a crab!  You're making me positively eel. 

If you insist on being such a stupid pollack, I am going to have to ask you to clam up.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:25 | 3423212 mudduck
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You talkin abalone pal. You obviously dont get the octopycs of what im shellin out, its not at all inky. So reef back on the shnarkyness, and get yourself some psychiatric kelp.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 17:07 | 3428458 willwork4food
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You suckers dont know carp. Here we talk about silver & GOLD, FISH not so much. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:35 | 3421538 GetZeeGold
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I've canceled my China vacation. Just seems prudent.


I hear North Korea is nice this time of year.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:43 | 3421566 duo
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you have to wait until mid-May to make sure you don't get snow.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:20 | 3421734 Dead Canary
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I'm going to Mars. Those Martian women have ten titties!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:56 | 3421934 Hulk
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but you only have two hands...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:45 | 3422973 RafterManFMJ
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He can layover in Fukashima and grow 8 more in no time.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 16:44 | 3423599 Dead Canary
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Well I THINK they're women.

(It's hard to tell with the tentacles flaying about.)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:10 | 3422264 Freddie
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Take a cruise on Carnival Cruise lines.  Make sure to bring plastic bags to shit in the hallways.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:47 | 3422988 RafterManFMJ
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Take a cruise on Carnival Cruise lines.  Make sure to bring plastic bags to shit in the hallways.


I like how you've updated the Canary in the Coalmine EWS; we can now have the carp in the Carnival crap.  Your carp dies, you know the level of toxic shit sloshing around you can no longer be tolerated. Run to the poop deck!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:36 | 3421539 dick cheneys ghost
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Damn, the CIA sure is busy these days............

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:19 | 3422151 Urban Redneck
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At least when the MIC was poisoning US fish in the Columbia River, it was creating US jobs.

Now the MIC poisons fish in some Chicom river and creates Chicom jobs and pays Chicom taxes.  The environment is even more fucked, and the economy is even more fucked, and yet the dumb sheeple beg for MOAR of the same.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:36 | 3421542 fuu
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George Chen may be the next thing floating in a Chinese river.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:47 | 3421585 Van Halen
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By the latest news, the US dollar may be the latest dead thing to be found floating down Chinese rivers.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:18 | 3422022 francis_sawyer
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So long & Thanks for all the fish! ~ Oh wait!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:36 | 3421543 otto skorzeny
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here's a crazy theory -China is a huge enviromental shithole

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:39 | 3422117 Bananamerican
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"winner winner chicken dinner"...


winner winner ham sandwich?

roast duck?

carp sandwich? fuck it...

"winner winner soylent Wang"


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:05 | 3422235 l.kimbot
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man-made "wormwood"

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:14 | 3422278 Freddie
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The Dems, Oba-the-Islamic, Kurgman, the TV newsdmedia and Hollywood portray China as a shining model because they like controlling serfs like the Chi-Coms. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:16 | 3422282 YHC-FTSE
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After decades of pollution in suicidal amounts - as anyone who has been to Seoul in the 90's will attest - S.Korea had a series of poisoned river headlines and floating livestock stories that finally forced people to act. I just wonder how long, if ever, it will take the Chinese to come to their senses. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:35 | 3421544 Frank N. Beans
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fish flu

pig flu

swan flu

duck flu

chicken flu

what's next?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:38 | 3421553 Hobbleknee
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"Not I" said the cat.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:53 | 3421611 DutchR
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Eh, flu-flu......?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:29 | 3421795 hannah
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Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:37 | 3421547 GolfHatesMe
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Fish McBites

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:38 | 3421548 adr
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That river looks like the Cuyahoga after it flows through the ghetto. Actually a bit better, since I don't see any dead bodies wearing 59/50 hats and Nikes. About the same number of dead fish though.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:47 | 3421584 W74
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Most of my family is from Central and Northeast Ohio.  It's sad to listen to their stories about how their state decayed during their adult years.  At least they had fantastic childhoods growing up in a 1250 sq. foot, post-war solid rock of a home where the average family in the neighborhood still had 4-6 children and parents could feel safe letting their kids play in the streets and walk to schools.

Now?  Now many of those same areas are turning into ghetto section-eight filled shittholes in the shadows of long-gone factories, steel mills, and auto/auto-parts plants.  My how far we've fallen.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:14 | 3421705 Bangin7GramRocks
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Wow, 8 people sharing 1450 sq. feet. What a utopian dream!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:09 | 3422727 Blankenstein
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Your nostagia for large families is misguided.  An exponentially increasing population benefits no one except the elite who prosper from the economic ponzi based on infinite growth.  Obviously there is something to the fact that the most educated have the smallest families.  Many of our problems would begin to improve if the breeders would stop having to have a litter, instead of a smaller, stable family, that they could actually be able to support emotionally and financially.  

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:38 | 3421549 Herbman
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Too much poo in the Huangpu. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:38 | 3421550 Van Halen
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ZH was laughing at the drug OD line; I was facepalming over the "climate change" line. Environmentalist wackos have learned well: never let a crisis go to waste.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:46 | 3421582 MeelionDollerBogus
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idiot. Climate change is real. Seriously. Anyone denying climate change has not even checked a thermometer in 30 years. That doesn't mean it's the culprit here but it is easily measured.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:01 | 3421640 mijev
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Seriously? Pollution is real. Overpopulation is also real. Climate change (notice how people have stopped using "Global Warming" since the earth stopped heating) is also real but it is not caused by either of the above. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:29 | 3421679 ElvisDog
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Who's the idiot? If you look at the actual data, the average rise in temperature over the past 50 years is something like 1 degree celsius. So, yes, temperatures have risen, but if you think life on Earth is so fragile that a 1 degree change in temperature is catastrophic then the idiot is you.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:34 | 3421816 Hulk
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Desertification of the planet is a major component to global warming. Man has stopped mob grazing of the herbivores, which has destroyed the massive grass lands throughout the world. By reintroducing mob grazing, we can restore the grasslands, bring the CO2 levels back to pre industrial levels and feed the World.

Pature farming saving the World, How about that?

Allan Savory on the subject:

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:00 | 3421954 Overflow-admin
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Seriously? Have YOU checked the "global thermometer" for the last 10 years?


I checked for a million years and find your argument RIDICULOUS...


It's not Climate change, it's that CLIMATE CHANGES!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:25 | 3422492 ExpendableOne
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Big orange thing in the sky....

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:16 | 3422012 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Using a term for a naturally occuring process to push an agenda of control is disingenious. No shit the fucking climate is always changing that is an absolute. It always fluctuates to a certain degree short and long term. Whether we exacerbate it or not it still happens. This is that subtle language usage to associate natural occuring processes with control by regulation. Why don't they call it human climate intervention for example.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:35 | 3422303 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Just a reminder how nuts these people are that push this agenda remember that little thing about global cooling that everyone thought would cause the end of the world in the 1970's?

From Baby Credits to Carbon Credits: Climate Science and Economics

Leading voices in the climate debate, including President Obama’s science czar, were advocates of baby credits to control global cooling before they advocated carbon credits to control global warming.  An examination of their past views should be undertaken before more economic decisions are made. 

heir arguments have proven false in the past and they have advocated other policies such as forced sterilization and baby swapping adoption services based on gender. These policies were advanced in the name of science and the environment, not for social engineering.

Consider John Holdren who is the Assistant to President Obama for Science and Technology, the Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and a Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology.  He is an advocate of increased spending to fend off an impending climate crisis.  But his views are untrustworthy when you examine his past.  In order, he has argued that increased amounts of CO2 in the atmosphere causes:

1.  Global cooling and crop failures,
2.  Global warming, and finally
3.  Climate change.

Mr Holdren’s past views and his ‘scientific’ studies have proven flawed. What would our current society like if Mr Holden had been able to turn his ‘science’ into policy?

In 1968, Paul Ehrlich, a colleague of John Holdren and his future co-author, published The Population Bomb.  This book stated that the Earth had reached its maximum population and mass starvation would occur in the 1970s and 1980s.  This Malthusian view proved completely wrong, but it views are worth noting.  The main conclusion was:

The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate.
T he message of fear was obvious.

One advocate of this new anti-population movement was John Holdren.  He also supported the “global cooling effect” which believed carbon emissions would cause temperature drops and crop reductions.
In 1978, it gets interesting.  John Holdren and Paul Ehrlich published a book titled  Eco-Science: Population, Resources, Environment.
 In this book, Mr Holdren and Mr Ehrlich advanced their beliefs on global cooling. They stated action was needed in response to science.  Among the policies they identified to reduce global cooling and control population growth were:
1.  The creation of a “baby credits” trading scheme where individuals could trade their reproductive rights for cash with other individuals.  Couples with no babies could sell their ‘baby rights’ to other couples who wanted to have more babies than the state determined level. This baby credit trading scheme is an eerie predecessor to the carbon trading scheme now in place.

2.  Putting a birth control chemical in the world’s drinking water or food supplies to reduce fertility levels to rates they would determine were acceptable and implant young women/girls with birth control capsules when they hit the age of puberty . Later, the capsules could be withdrawn when the woman decided she wanted to have children (withing state proscribed limits.)

3.  Create financial lotteries with cash prizes that would only be open to childless people;

4.  Create an adoption system so potential parents who wanted a male child instead of a female could adopt what they wanted rather than “trying for another child.”  Unsuitable single mothers would also have to give up their children for adoption.
Both Mr Holdren and Mr Ehrlich believed that by the 1980s, global cooling would have a devastating impact and that the population would be demanding action.  Imagine what might have happened if those governments had acted on global cooling. Now, of course, we are told that schemes should address either global warming and/or climate change.
History is soon forgotten and policy makers tend to live in a time bubble where the past was last year and the future is the next election. But what lessons could be drawn from these events, given that the people involved in the past are now in positions of significant policy and spending influence?
a. Before undertaking any spending programs or policies such as more carbon credit trading schemes,  reviews should be made of what these individuals and their colleagues have advocated in the past.
b. With respect to an individual spending project such as vehicle emissions, multiple sources of data should be reviewed to determine if ideological views have found their way into the discourse.
In the 1970s and 1980s, many mainstream scientists were making morally demands about how the rest of us should reshape our lives to meet their scientific views.  Now, in 2013, we are facing new demands for more radical polices from the same voices, albeit based on the exact opposite of what they believed earlier (cooling vs warming).
Those scientists who made these past projections about global cooling and mass starvation are frequently the same people who now occupy significant positions of influence. John Holdren is one of those people.  Before letting their voices gain any further influence, a review of their own views might be useful.
Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:49 | 3422378 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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We got the equivalent of Josef Mengles as a science tzar. Fucking wonderful. When do people finally wake up and realize the 21st century version of Nazi Germany has taken over the US government and is in the process of consolidating power.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:54 | 3422387 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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How much more proof does one need that we've taken over from the inside by a bunch American Freedom hating socialists.


Obama Caught Lying About His Socialist Party Membership Posted on by

After allegations surfaced in early summer over the ”New Party”s” endorsement of Obama, the Obama campaign along with the remnants of the New Party and Democratic Socialists of America claimed that Obama was never a member of either organization. The DSA and ”New Party” then systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and the Socialist Organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the DSA”s New Party.


The Internet never forgets.


Illinois: Three NP-members won Democratic primaries last Spring and face off against Republican opponents on election day: Danny Davis (U.S. House), Barack Obama (State Senate) and Patricia Martin (Cook County Judiciary).

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:53 | 3422824 Blankenstein
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So the solution to the problem is the Carbon Credits program that will transfer more money from the 99% to the mega-wealthy?  Great, so companies will pay for these credits and the costs will be passed on to the consumers - us.  And how does this money grab by the .01% help the environment?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:31 | 3425002 MeelionDollerBogus
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I classify "carbon credits" along with all other fiat - garbage.

We need only choose our own level of damage & benefit like good capitalists & if you do enough harm to others they warn you, then kill you if you continue - that's your fucking problem, isn't it?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:57 | 3421628 NoDebt
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Yeah, I'm glad I wasn't swallowing coffee when I got the "Theories reportedly include climate change" line.  It would have been spraying out my nose.

Why don't we just say "Theories reportedly include angering the river gods" and agree that's the real answer.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:40 | 3421560 SheepDog-One
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Hey as long as the stawk market is up, who cares?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:42 | 3421564 Quinvarius
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Amazing how geopolitical and geoeconomic events favoring china suddenly result in China's weakpoint, water ways and supplies, being ravenged in all manner of ways.  Simply amazing.  If only the CIA had thought of a way to cripple China years ago, we would not have had to wait for these natural events.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:43 | 3421565 Karl von Bahnhof
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US economic warfare in small vials?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:54 | 3421621 kridkrid
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China's overpopulation is more problematic for the Chinese than it is for the US. Food for thought.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:17 | 3422021 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Soyrent gleen food for stomach.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:43 | 3421569 pods
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There are still fish in Chinese Rivers?


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:45 | 3421573 css1971
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Most likely fertiliser (nitrates). It's spring.

It leeches through poor soil into the water and causes algae growth, which consumes all the oxygen in the water. Other aquatic life suffocates.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:11 | 3421683 Quinvarius
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That certainly explains  the dead pigs.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:05 | 3421966 css1971
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It does if they were trying to get them to breathe water.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:09 | 3421982 Smiddywesson
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If pigs had wings, they's just fly by the thousands over Chinese rivers. Stupid pigs.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:32 | 3422522 TheGardener
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Spring brings death. Old trees and old people die just when you thought they made it through a long hard winter.

Old farmers told me not to graze my livestock on first
spring grass, full of germs, parasites and poisonous evil
and such.

Cuts well with your fertilizer story or whatever the soil
throws up because all winter it is mostly physical (frost cracking up stones for future soil ) and chemical processes, fruit peels on the compost heap from October will look as if from last week when the snow recedes.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:44 | 3421574 orangegeek
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This is nothing.


Let's see if the Chinese can set their water on fire like they did in the 1960s.



Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:16 | 3421704 sumo
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Let's see if the Chinese can set their water on fire like Americans near fracking sites.

Fixed it for you

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:45 | 3421576 Sudden Debt
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It's nothing that serious... we just dumped 5000 tons of Cyanide into the water supply....

oh yeah... don't drink the water... it's been in the water for about 2 weeks or something...


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:45 | 3421578 Inthemix96
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Thats a damn fucking shame that is,

Any how, this wife finds out her bloke is shagging about behind her back and plots revenge, she sneaks in one night and finds him pissed and asleep on the couch.  Next thing you know, she lobs his cock off with a blunt knife and fucks off in the car.

After going a few miles she wonders what to do with said severed cock, so throws it out the window.

Just then, Paddy and Mick the Irish builders are going along in their van, and the severed cock brays off the window, quick as a flash, Paddy turns to mick and says, "Bejesus Mick!  You see the size 'O that cock on that fly!!".

Just a thought mind.


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:57 | 3421632 Monedas
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You're a Socialist scumbag .... but that was funny !

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:01 | 3421641 Inthemix96
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I tell you one thing Monedas,

I am sick and tired of feeling ill and fatigued.


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:06 | 3421668 supafuckinmingster
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I think that all right-thinking people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary, decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not! But I'm sick and tired of being told that I am! -- John Cleese

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:41 | 3421860 Hulk
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Great story Man!!! Feeling ill and fatigued, its time for you to start exercising...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:47 | 3421580 supafuckinmingster
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250kg isn't a whole lot of fish in the greater scheme of things.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:53 | 3421908 i-dog
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Took out more carp than that with just one sticky of jelly as a kid.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:47 | 3421583 pashley1411
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Methinx you should all being going long sulfur-scrubbing technology for coal planets.    Seriously, those middle class Shanghai residents are going to go leaning hard green.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:49 | 3421590 saints51
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Well i guess Walmart will have fish in stock.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:50 | 3421592 ElvisDog
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Favorite line from that story: authorities insist there is no risk to public health or drinking water sources

Hmm, I wonder if the authorities drink tap water. True story: I have friends who are going over to Beijing for 3 years for work. They have two school-age kids and have been looking at schools for them. One of the schools is encased in a bubble with air filters. The other schools do not. My friends are leaning towards the bubble school because the air quality is so bad.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 13:29 | 3422507 aerojet
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I don't see how attending a bubble school would help much since you still have to come and go from the place and breathe the bad air everywhere else, so having a few hours' respite from it isn't going to make a whole hell of a lot of difference. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:10 | 3422689 TheGardener
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Grown ups from Eastern Europe are still said to suffer from bad attitudes. Air quality was a non issue in their real grey and white world and they learned the word for air pollution not until it was gone for good.

I was just about to make fun of your friends and leanings
but without fresh air no real learning .The bubble air quality school is probably the next best thing to home schooling or no school.

I can smell the bad breath of public education
but expat kids will be aliens forever anyway with or without
oxygen where ever they go.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:54 | 3421608 Dr Dooom
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250K? WTF borthers to pickém up and then weighing them. No even a starving fisher man would bother.... this story is BS. Tell me again when we are talking about 25.000 tons......

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:56 | 3421610 buzzsaw99
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That's why carp fly above china rivers. Trying to limit their exposure to the water.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 09:55 | 3421624 irie1029
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I do not know of any Chinese drinking tap water.... having said that i did not trust the bottled water and chose Tsing Dao.  :)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:32 | 3422870 akak
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And the Chinese breweries get the water with which to make their beer, where?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:01 | 3421633 Disenchanted
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Newsflash...McDonalds China: Filet-O-Fish prices filet'd(filleted?) in half.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:00 | 3421635 Monedas
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How many Chinese coal miners have they fished out of the river ?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:01 | 3421637 Zymurguy
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Shanghi is also the site of numerous deaths from a newly classfied flu... some believe these events are related.  One of the first dead worked at an animal processing factory, brought the disease home and it killed his father and brother.  It's possible that this is a pretty nasty animal flu that has been able to jump to humans.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:12 | 3422004 Smiddywesson
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Or it could be the first chapter to a zombie apocalypse book.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:36 | 3422881 akak
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First they ate the river pigs' brains, but I was not concerned, because I was not a river pig.

Then they ate the diseased river chickens' brains, but I was not concerned, because I was not a diseased river chicken ....

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:33 | 3422889 TheGardener
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They sequenced it HXNX latest last X number seven or so,
sounds pretty much engineered even for the uninitiated.

Modern nasty`s or cocktails are of different strains each of bacteria, viruses and fungi and only when they all succeed
you get a jump. Modern ways to reduce your immune system
to a Chinese outdated brick wall defense will do the trick.

There are about a million ways to get your immune system fucked up with the right dose of processed food and prescription drugs.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:00 | 3421638 Blazed
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Well now they know what to do with their abundance of engineering and science graduates.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:17 | 3421722 q99x2
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Monsanto GMO. Hey if they can hang banksters in China maybe they can hang Bill Gates there too.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 10:17 | 3421727 sumo
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It's ok folks. They're all Tibetan fish. Purely an internal matter. Nothing to see, move along.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:37 | 3422910 akak
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If that were the case, one would expect to see signs of incineration prior to death.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:20 | 3422030 sharonsj
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"Theories reportedly include climate change, electrocution, an explosion or even a drug overdose."  The answer is, of course, that China has no environmental laws (except the firing squad.)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:39 | 3422111 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess both the fish and birds got a fatal case of the rockin' pneumonia and the boogie woogie flu.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:40 | 3422118 Intoxicologist
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A Chinese pig, duck, black swan, chicken and a fish walk into a bar.

The barman looks up at them and says, "What is this, some kind of joke?"

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:40 | 3422121 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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More like walk into the bar and die.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:08 | 3422250 GraveyardSpiral
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A pig, duck, black swan, chicken and a fish walk into a Chinese bar.

The barman looks up at them and says, "You guys stink, why don't you float on over to Jing's bar!"

There, fixed it for ya.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 14:43 | 3422954 TheGardener
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"A Chinese pig, duck, black swan, chicken and a fish walk into a bar."

Barman asks without looking up : stirred or shaken ?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 11:54 | 3422179 Intoxicologist
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Ok, then.

A Chinese pig, duck, black swan, chicken and a fish walk into a bar and die.

The barman looks down at them and mutters, "Dammit!  The KFC was two doors down!"

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 12:10 | 3422257 marcusfenix
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project blue?

if I remember correctly captain trips killed the animals as well...

bring out your dead.

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