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Where Do The Rich And Poor Live?
From counties with a 50%-plus poverty rate to counties with over 20% of household incomes over $200,000, the United States is increasingly becoming a divided union. But all the time American Idol is on, and the iPad is still running, Aldous Huxley's vision of a 'numb' society (as opposed to an Orwellian 1984 'imposed' utopia) seems more and more realistic.
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Lets send some of the Chinese pork to the North East corridor.
Well, Wyoming seems pretty well-off . . . Hmmmmmm.
Must be a lot of big money in ranching.
For a state with a pretty low profile, it's doing quite good.
You will notice that it is clustered around Jackson Hole. and by the way Wyoming has no state income tax so I suspect many people made their money and moved to Jackson Hole
Just turn a blind eye to the Indian reservations, illegal immigrants in the Rio Grand Valley and those who have not worked since the inception Great Society inhabiting the Mississippi Valley.
Isn't that the politically correct thing to do?? I don't see any elephant do you???
Yep, that big red splotch on NE AZ is the rez, and I think those splotches in SD are rez too... big illegal / narco along the Mexican border... but what is up in ol' miss? It can't be civil war stuff still lingering, can it?
Mississippi, Arkansas & Alabama, three of the most 'Conservative' states also the most impoverished, pure coincidence of course!
couldn't possibly be because the people there who actually pay taxes and vote see the results of poor domestic policy firsthand?
nah. you're right it's a coincidence.
You still believe that they count our votes?
I won't bother to tell you that there is no Easter bunny or Santa Claus...
oh yes you're so wise i'm sure, enlighten me as to how many local elections you've worked yourself?
My crew has worked MANY elections. Why do you ask?
not down here you haven't.
Well, Obama, Eric Holdr, and Acorn fixed all of that.
Where you at?
in one of those red areas down south
and for the record i'm not saying vote fraud doesn't happen, it's just not done with the machines like alot of people think.
So much for the hanging chad incident
Fed said: it's just not done with the machines like alot of people think.
Nice to think that but naive you are. Spend some time at bradblog.com and you'll get real infromation about real voting issues.
you can shove that blog up your ass, i don't need rachel maddow explaining a damn thing to me. i worked elections numbnuts. as a poll watcher i've challenged and disqualified dozens of voters, virtually all of the fraud is done with registrations and proxy votes. since the tinfoil hats are going to downvote this if they see it anyway i'll just go ahead and tell the whole truth, and that it it's always democratic candidates that try pull this shit. obviously republicans cheat too but i'm telling you how it is down here.
Yeah, that red stripe down your back doesn't influence what you see. The fact is that in-person voting fraud in US elections is NEGLIGIBLE. I'm shocked you haven't played the ACORN card yet, sham that that is.
Ever hear of Clint Curtis? Was hired by Republican Tom Feeney to write vote stealing software. This factoid came out in a congressional hearing after the 2000 election. Republicans have used everything in their bag of tricks to prevent people from voting in the name of voter fraud. You can stick your voter fraud up your ass.
Drive US 1 from the heart of DC to Boston and you will see plenty of shit-holes that make the rural south look like paradise and that only show up as blue on the maps above only because they are balanced out by near-by concentrations of super-wealth in the hands of the criminal elite.
Agreed, But look at El Paso- rich and poor alike??
Naaah, this map is shit.
El Paso and El Paso County are at the westernmost tip of Texas. You must be looking at Hudspeth or Culberson County, which are basically empty of people.
I've driven through El Paso many times. The view from I-10 is a view of fancy malls, restaurants, hotels and pricey home decor shops. But come in from the east on dusty Rt. 62 and you'll see all the junkyards, dirt and squalor you could ask for.
.....just take D.C......pleez.
And don't forget Detroit, Chicago, NYC, Los Angeles, and you can have San Francisco too.
Bingo!
And yet they STILL vote against using the force of the State to steal money from you and give it to themselves.
Maybe they think freedom is worth more than EBT.
nope wrong people. the welfare recipients don't vote republican, trust me.
who are these serial junkers, show yourselves i say
didn't junk you, but here,
and, Why American's Poor Are Willing to Vote Republican
of course, there are many more articles, should you care to look 'em up. . .
yes i've had articles such as this thrown in my face before. poor blacks and the majority of really poor whites don't vote for conservative candidates, i'm telling you this is the truth. now there are some people who would undoubtedly be better served in handouts by voting for democrats, but we still have a little of that thing called pride down here and i know it's infuriating for people to not want free stuff, truly i do.
How dare those evil people not go on welfare and be dependent on the government! They do stupid and terroristic things like work hard and take responsibility for their own family. We can't have that in 0bama's America.
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the article quotes some beloved radio-dudes like Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh & Varney, so I get where you, and others here, are coming from. . .
I heard pride goeth before a fall. . .
You don't think the tens of thousands of people who live in Mexico, but cross every week to receive food stamps and shop for things which are hard to get in Mexico voted last election, do you? I've seen hundreds They live in Juarez, Laredo, Matamoros, Tijuana, Reynosa and others. They receive food stamps. They don't vote. They just claim their four kids and 3 nieces and presto! Maza para la tortilla! Their sisters "borrow" their kids and apply as well.
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If people only knew. The communists have quite a plan for us, and will end up taking the whole world out.
I don't know whether your story is true or not, most likely some parts of it are - nationstate borders are porous everywhere, because they're artificially, arbitrarily created, and like knobs on an old amp, sometimes the borders are set to say, 5, sometimes they ramp up the volume to eleventy for publicity - folks adjust accordingly.
my point in this exchange was to show that Republicans, and the states that refer to themselves as such, ARE on plenty of gov benefits, that "all welfare" is voted for by Democrats is nonsense at this stage.
actually, even drawing a pretend line between the two parties is nonsense. I am continually amazed that people here even vote still, but, yeah, there ya go!
I must say, if your story is close to true, I can't help but admire their creativity. . . corporations took hella advantage of border towns during the early NAFTA maquilladora phase, why shouldn't peoples act similarly?
anyone whining about where their "taxes" go, at this stage, needs to wise up, sharpish.
I must say, if your story is close to true, I can't help but admire their creativity. . . corporations took hella advantage of border towns during the early NAFTA maquilladora phase, why shouldn't peoples act similarly?
Early? You mean on-going.It's funny people rage against the evil Mexicans (who are in reality a godsend for the USA) while totally ignoring trade agreements like NAFTA. Trade agreements which have done incredible damage to the populations on both sides of the border. Look at Juarez / El Paso, practically financial terrorism.
25 million people is no godsend
they suck up benefits, and jobs that would have to pay moar to attract an american to do them
pizza used to get delivered by highschool age kids, and now its 45 year old mexicans bringing it
What you don't seem to point out is that those poor, hardworking, unemployed and underemployed americans are "too good" to work for minimum wage and tips.
We've lost too many "good paying jobs with benefits" and created far too many part-time, no benefit, minimum wage or barely above it positions to replace them. American workers want $20/hour and full benefits at no cost, but will only shop Wal-mart for their needs (where 95% of EVERYTHING is Chinese).
Let's face it, I can hire an American to produce 10 pairs of jeans an hour at $20/hour or hire a Chinese worker to produce twice the number for $2/day. Even shipping it over the Pacific in bulk, I can put that pair of jeans on the shelf at a fraction of the one from an American. Plus, I don't have to operate a factory (OSHA/Taxes/Unions) or pay my share of the FICA/SS taxes!
The FED has a 3 Trillion dollar portfolio. Just where the heck did the FED come up with 3 Trillion dollars plus? And you wonder why the dollar is getting worth less and less.
every time i see this i marvel. yes, let's leave the voting to an ever smaller number of increasingly stupid people. that'll fix shit for sure. why don't we just declare an emperor and call it good.
oh wait....
Not communism. KLEPTOCRACY with a dash of facism
I live in one of those pink spots in Florida. Can't speak for the rest of the country but I can tell you the majority of poor whites in this area vote Republican and are so conservative they would make Rush look like a liberal. Interstingly enough racism in this area remains politically correct. Not saying cause and effect, just saying interesting.
Yes, all those Hispanics in South Texas vote Republican, all those blacks in Jackson MS, Birmingham AL, Atlanta GA, Memphis TN all vote Republican. They all voted for Romney.
LOL You liberals are dumber than I thought. You actually think an entire state votes 100% for a party?
Pro choice vote democrat. Pro life for republican.
Or the poor do not vote at all. The media and politicians work on their emotions and romanticize and cruxify...it's a winning approach to getting the poor to vote for the rich.
James, You you are suggesting that bankster and Washington stealing money from honest regular people is better than conservative? Maybe just being honest and hardworking is fatal in this country...you need to scam some farm subsidy, print money, game the poor out of their houses to get ahead. How many Wall Streets have ever created anything other than a fraud?
Like Lord 0bama sayeth to his sheeple the night the MF Global scandal broke out, no crimes were committed. In fact, the SEC and FBI didn't even need to investigate. That is further proof that no crimes were committed by Lord 0bama's dear friend and political fundraiser Jon Corzine.
When Al Gore came up with the phrase "no controlling legal authority", he could not possibly have imagined how true that would become with Eric Holder in charge at AG. Holder may be the legal authority, but he certainly has done no controlling where illegal activities by Obama's cronies are concerned.
James, You you are suggesting that bankster and Washington stealing money from honest regular people is better than conservative?
No.
Maybe just being honest and hardworking is fatal in this country...
Probably.
It's just funny to point out that the states most pro 'right to work' 'deregulation' 'home-school-is-best' & whatever other nonsense the Republican party supports are also the poorest.
NY & California according to the other recent map article on zh are supposed to be the 'least free' yet here they are as also being among the most rich.
Anyway, this severely pisses off the red-staters so rage away.
Those who wield power, and theives, and other assorted criminals and sociopaths do indeed often end up wealthier than their neighbors.
PS: Please drop the red team/blue team shtick already --- it is pathetically and laughably irrelevant.
Those who wield power, and theives, and other assorted criminals and sociopaths do indeed often end up wealthier than their neighbors.
Sure, but you can't apply that to the entire populations of California or NY.
PS: Please drop the red team/blue team shtick already
It's a bit different when it comes to the states. The parties themselves are two sides of the same coin, but the populations who vote for them are very different. There's probably very little tangible difference between Obama & Romney, but the values they stand for - in theory only - are totally different.
Probably one of the biggest differences between Birmingham Alabama and San Francisco California is the emphasis placed on education. If your population is still debating evolution vs. creationism they're likely not getting a very good education and without a good education they're going to have a tough time getting decent work..
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/files/papers/2012/8/29%20educa...
I can't argue with you on that point, although I must also question the value of an education, even, or especially, a post-secondary education, in which Keynesian "economics", woefully statist political "science", anti-liberty historical revisionism, and Marxist/collectivistic social studies are inculculated with as much ferver, and with just as much fundamental ignorance, as creationism is at the lower educational levels.
I was just speaking with my wife on this point a week or two ago. We have two children in elementry school, and one in middle school (1st, 2nd, and 6th grades)
We live in a district that is ranked in the top 4% of the US educational system, in a town with 3,000 residents, and a teacher to student ratio of 1:20, give or take.
What we've observed over years of carefully following every aspect of the educational process here with each of our three children is that the elementary school system is where "No child left behind" is actually something meaningful. The teachers go out of their way to ensure that the children know their basic colors, shapes, rudimentary mathematics, basic literacy and how to follow orders such as obeying authority and calmly standing in line.
The flip side of this is that our oldest daughter (the sixth grader) was proverbally thrown to the wolves in 5th grade. She was in special Ed leading up to that grade (ADHD and some early ear infections, for whatever that's worth- I think she could try a little harder, personally) but as soon as she entered the middle school, they put her in all regular classes and told her to take responsibility or ...
Normally, I'd be all for that, but every year for the last four years, we have been told about the "new math" for that year in parent/teacher conferences. This past year, "new math" involved my second grader being expected to count by 13s, and my 6th grader doing first year algebra. That would be awesome- if they could do it. But they're regular kids, and even with several hours of help each night, they've been unable to catch on. So now I have an eleven-year old girl that can't multipy or divide trying to graph parbolic functions so she doesn't fail.
Back on point, my observation here is that TPTB absolutely do not want the general population to understand mathematics, or use it as a tool in daily life. If I wanted to cripple a child, I would certainly expose them to everything they could not handle, and then hold them responsible if they did not learn it, and punish them for failing to do what they were unable to. There's no better way to force a kid into automatically fleeing from anything more than basic addition or subtraction, and making them docile towards the idea to leaving the "hard math" to the "experts."
But Social Studies? Hell, they all have A++s across the board.
I don't really know what to do, honestly- I see the Delphi method in practice here on a grand scale, but I am working overtime every week just to feed everyone and keep the lights on. Private school isn't an option due to budgetary contraints, and home schooling will kill me early, with the added stress of being a science, math and language teacher in addition to my regular work.
And before any of you chastise me for having too many kids, all three are my wife's from her first marriage. I didn't make any of my own- mainly because I can't justify creating more milk cows for the dipshits that evidently run things. Sure, I could have stepped away and refused the responsibility, and that would have been easier on my bank account, but they're good kids who deserve a father. And beyond that, every kid I support is one you don't have to pay for- so I'm not willing to take any shit on that score.
The schools have been doing that to kids for a long time. This is the tool that gave me numeracy as a child.
http://www.amazon.com/Schoolhouse-Rock-Multiplication-VHS/dp/1569494096
Prometheus, educationg kids to day is extremely hard, those without children have no clue. Unfortunately for us we had to go the private route because our local schools were terrible. It financially killed us though our kids got a very good education. You are luck to be in a good district. My I suggest you teach your daughter math through real life experiences? Our daughtes had checking accts at you eldest's age and learned to budget for their purchases using their allowances. We gave them ( I know some here will cringe at this) credit cards when they were very young and learned how to use them properly with out ever carrying a balance. When we went to the grocery store I would ask them to calc the price of something 35% off. We'd compare prices of 2 items, one more costly but the other cheaper cost per lb and I'd ask them to explain the better deal. When we were fixing our home theyd calculate how much tile would be needed for the new counter top. Then they helped dad cut the tile to properly fit the space. All the local plumbing, electrical stores knew my girls because their dad always included them when he did a project. Math is all around you in some form. I didn't work on parabolic equations until I was in physics in college so I think that is a bit inappropriate at that age. But what do I know I'm not a learned educator! I guess my tastes tend to run pragmatic I'm afraid. Thanks for being a great father. So many children today miss that and I hope you realize just your presence can make such a difference. Good luck!
Miffed;-)
I play a game with my daughter.
Every time I go shopping, I look around on the floor for dropped change. Sometimes, it's a penny or two (or sometimes nothing), but usually, it's 10, 25, 50, or 75 cents (plus or minus). (Once, I found a 20-dollar bill, but even after reporting it to the store, no one claimed it. WTF?!?)
Anyway, I then say to her, "Daughter, if I go shopping twice a week, and every time I go shopping, I find X cents on the ground ... and I put that money in your 'birthday jar' (a tin jar on top of the microwave that she opens once a year on her birthday [which also serves as a repository for one-quarter of her other income during the year (one-half of which goes immediately in the bank, and thence to, uh, 'other things' - shall I say?, and the other one-quarter of which she gets immediately to squander as she sees fit)]) ...
"How much money do you have at the end of a year?"
(Surprisingly, it adds up. Consider just finding a dime. Over a year, it's an additional $10.40 in her birthday jar.)
She has to do it in her head.
Hard to do when it's, oh, say, 37 cents.
I let her round (actually, I think that that's an important skill in such things), but she gets extra points (praise) if she nails it.
Every year, there's about $150 in her birthday jar, which isn't bad for a kid, I think. And I'd guess there's 30 or 40 dollars or so in there just from picking up pennies, nickels, and dimes at the grocery store.
She's better with money than most children her age, I think. She makes choices. She waits and saves. A few years back (she really was pretty young then [eight or nine, maybe?]), she saved up $110 to get a My Twin doll (her mom and I paid the shipping, etc.). It took her several months, maybe half a year.
Not bad for a kid, I think.
Hope her 'other things' do something by the time she turns 18 or 20.
The 8yo daughter of a couple friends of mine is digging herself out (literally) of future innumeracy by playing Minecraft. She now understands perfectly the four operations, has some insights on power functions and has seen the benefits of learning the multiplication tables and the powers of 2 by rote.
I must also question the value of an education, even, or especially, a post-secondary education, in which Keynesian "economics", woefully statist political "science", anti-liberty historical revisionism, and Marxist/collectivistic social studies are inculculated with as much ferver, and with just as much fundamental ignorance, as creationism is at the lower educational levels.
I look at it as a cultural approach of emphasizing education. But as far as your take on post-secondary you're looking at it in a very narrow way.
One example I can think of is an extraction project, one of the few places where someone without a college degree can still get an entry level job that pays decently. Drill ops will work in gawdawful conditions doing long hrs with limited options for advancement. On the same site engineers or geologists will work much better hours, under better conditions, get paid more & have more options for advancement.
My upbringing was in a city that highly valued education and this seems to have made a big difference in the careers of the people I grew up with. Not necessarily stressing college education either or state education more the culture, an acquaintance of mine was hired when he was 17 (mostly self taught) by Google and I'd say part of his path to that job was helped along by the culture we lived in.
Again, seems less likely you'll wind up with an advanced job if the culture you're brought up in is the opposite of that.
I wouldn't be surprised to hear Mississippi, Alabama & Arkansas are not hotbeds of innovation.
Don't let the leftist liar fool you with the canard about creationism. There are no school districts teaching creationism and the only place it is being debated are at some school board meetings. Ignorant 0bamists pretend to be worldly, but most of them have never left their little neighborhood coffee shop and the only "news" they get is propaganda from MSNBS.
Look at the worst performing school district in the country and they are run by democrats and the teachers unions.
List of the 100 worst performing schools:
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/school-district/ratings/worst100/
Over 90% of them are in democrat cities that spend well above the national average per student.
For some laughs:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/here-is-what-louisiana-schoolchi...
And Alabama:
http://ncse.com/news/2011/03/creationism-alabama-standards-006570
Here's something funnier:
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/officials-most-nyc-high-school-grads-need-remedial-help-before-entering-cuny-community-colleges/
And Detroit:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/05/05/half-of-detroits-adults-are-functionally-illiterate-so-now-what/
The most liberal city in the country, Detroit, chose an illiterate man to be superintindent of schools. Obama got over 95% of the votes in that city. LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zti_508FRrE
You're going off on a straw man, stick to the topic.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/2012/10/15/americas-best-and...
It's fox business so you know it's reliably pulling for Republicans.
The difference in median income between those with only a high school diploma and a college degree is dramatic. The median pay for U.S. adults with just a high school diploma was $26,699 in 2011. For those 25 or older with a bachelor’s degree, median annual earnings came to $48,309. Residents with a graduate or professional degree did even better; median annual earnings was $64,322.
America’s Best-Educated States
10. Minnesota
9. New York
8. New Hampshire
7. Virginia
6. New Jersey
5. Vermont
4. Connecticut
3. Colorado
2. Maryland
1. Massachusetts
America’s Worst-Educated States
10. Oklahoma
9. Tennessee
8. Indiana
7. Nevada
6. Alabama
5. Louisiana
4. Kentucky
3. Arkansas
2. Mississippi
1. West Virginia
Nice straw man argument chimpy. Once again, chimpy, there are democrat and republican areas of each state. You go by cities, not states. The cities control the school districts. Notice the majority of the worst schools are in democrat cities.
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/neighborhoods/school-district/ratings/worst100/
Once again, chimpy, $50K is poverty in NYC, while $50K is middle class in Nashville. The cost of living is lower in certain parts of the country. How come you can't get that through your thick skull? Yet you claim to be able to think out of the box and be inquisitive?
Let's look at unemployment rates. After all, what good is a college degree without a job?
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm
Highest unemployment rates:
46 RHODE ISLAND 9.4
48 ILLINOIS 9.5
49 CALIFORNIA 9.6
49 MISSISSIPPI 9.6
49 NEVADA 9.6
Four of the five voted for Obama
Lowest unemployment rates:
- North Dakota 3.3
- Nebraska 3.8
- South Dakota 4.4
- Vermont 4.4
- Wyoming 4.9
Four of the five voted against ObamaYou bring up yet another straw-man, how many people live in ND? Like 5? How many in California?
Here's a useful look at what a college degree means in terms of employment:
http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm
Sun Tzu, not a good equation unles you add in where the oil is coming from.
Yet you apply the poor and conservative tag to entire states? Do you really think 100% of Mississippi or Alabama voted for Romney? Do you know over 40% of those states is black and blacks voted 97% for Obama? Do you really think the Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley all voted for Romney? Are you really that stupid?
Who do you think runs Birmingham? You are too damn ignorant ot be discussing these things if you think Memphins, Birmingham, Atlanta and the rest of the big Southern cities are run by Republicans or conservatives. Why do you leftists always you choose San Franciso when comparing cities? Why don't you choose Oakland, Detroit or Newark? Over 46% of Detroit is illiterate, and 0bama got 96% of the votes there. Over 80% of NYC stupids have to take remedial English in community colleges after having sucked up $20K/yr from K-12 grades. It's no surprise the democrat cities are full of illiterates when they are busy teaching 5th graders how to put condoms on bananas and cucumbers instead of math, reading, and writing.
James, education today in my view ( except for the hard sciences) is more indoctrination rather than intellectual challenges. I had the fortunate experience being educated at Gonzaga university and finished at San Diego state. In the private school I was expected to take basic knowledge and apply it to advanced problems in microbiology. All my exams were essays. The state school basically taught me to memorize facts and regurgitate them back on a bubble test. In reality, when I got my job I found out bacteria don't read text books and my state university experience was pretty much worthless. 90% of my learning came from on the job training from people who had 20+ years experience. This idea was painfully reiterated to me when my daughter got a job quickly after college based on the fact she spent a year in China on her own at 19 working at a finance company. They could care less what her grades were. Colleges are churning out reams of people with a piece of paper the worth of fiat today. It doesn't look to me they are getting the jobs these universities are implying are out there.
Miffed;-)
James, education today in my view ( except for the hard sciences) is more indoctrination rather than intellectual challenges.
I would agree, from my experience public education is more about teaching obedience and rote learning than thinking. However, as I was trying to say in another comment I think the culture makes a big difference.
In my upbringing we were encouraged to go outside of the curriculum, which meant a lot of long hrs after class (we were a bunch of nerds) messing with computers.
One of my friends grew up in Alabama and her cultural education experience was the opposite. In Washington you probably had an experience more akin to mine, though your institution was much better!
Colleges are churning out reams of people with a piece of paper the worth of fiat today.
Still makes a big difference, particularly in certain industries. I wrote a comment above on that.
You really are one ignorant son of a bitch. You must think there are no colleges in Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, Texas, and the rest of the South. Get out of your little neighborhood coffee shop once in a while. Texas has more fortune 500 companies than New York.
How's the educational system in Oakland, East LA, and Compton? How about Tacoma? You must be the biggest idiot in the world to think that an entire state or even a city is uniform. There are rich and poor areas, democrat and republican areas and so on within all states and even most cities. Do you really think that the majority of people in Memphis voted for Romney?
Some of my colleages have degrees from University of Arizona & University of Texas, Austin. So yes, I'm aware the South has some good schools.
How's the educational system in Oakland, East LA, and Compton? How about Tacoma?
Your emphasis on specific cities is ridiculous because it's a totally separate issue. Some of the best high schools are in LA & some of the worst, LA also happens to have 16m residents including a huge immigrant population so both a very complicated and totally separate issue.
The cities control the school districts. The states have almost no control except for setting minimum standards and partial funding of each district. All of the school boards, superintindents, principals, and teachers are elected and hired locally. Do you realize that? Yet you say it's ridiculous to look at individual cities and districts? The only thing a state can do is take over a district AFTER it loses accreditation. Honestly, you do not know what you're talking about.
Dear James, I just deleted my original comment, but...
I'm going to assume that you actually believe in evolution, based on your phraseology (starting in your comment 3424623). You posit that schools teaching evolution vs. creationism is indicative of a poor education system. If schools teach the theory of evolution, they should at least teach facts, not that fanciful, factless theories.
Anyone who 'believes in evolution' is practicing an extreme form of belief in miracles. Darwin based his theory on the supposition that the cell, the basic building block for all known life forms, is a simple thing, essentially a contained blob of jelly. Research increasingly shows the enormous complexity of the cell, with mechanisms for production, transportation, resource allocation, etc., that are far more complex than the biggest cities built by mankind. And this all happened by accident? No one - and I include biologists, biochemists, and so on here - can explain how the proper chemicals came together to produce increasingly complex molecules that eventually learned how to cooperate (all by themselves, with no outside guidance) and form cells.
Further, Darwin knew nothing of DNA or how it functions. As science learns more and more about the double helix and how it actually works, and the importance of factors like topology, one cannot possibly believe that the complex organization of both atoms/molecules and information could ever occur by accident. How many laws of nature are you willing to ignore to support the theory of evolution? Do you believe in entropy? If you do, how can you not believe in genetic entropy (devolution, the opposite of evolution) also?
No one has come up with a plausible scientific explanation for the development of the first functioning cell. I doubt anyone ever will. Please spare us your anti-scientific nonsense. Schools should not be debating evolution vs. creationism. They should, however, teach sound science based on facts and a good grounding in critical thinking.
Hear! Hear! Excellent arguement. I also agree creationism has no place in schools. These are 2 separate issues that have pointless comparable value. I also do not believe in the literal biblical account as well. Perhaps it's allegorical? But in all my scientific studies I have not lost appreciation for the profound mystery and complexity found in our natural world. If anything it has heightened the sense of a purposeful design. Perhaps more people should study science to experience this. Thanks for the post.
Miffed;-)
The value of the dollar isn't equal across the country. 40k in Tennessee goes a lot further than 60k in California. I find it hilarious that leftists actually believe Republican voters in these areas are the ones getting the handouts. Equally funny is that these stats show an accurate picture of real purchasing power and actual wealth. The rapacious oligarchs,banksters and cronyists are much more likely to be found in NYC, Greenwich,CT, Chicago and California than in flyover country.
You're right. A person could easily live on $40K in rural areas and it would seem like they are poor using when an east or west coast liberal runs the numbers. Their house costs $60K and they have land to grow and hunt their own food. A person making $80K in NYC or SF is living in poverty. I have co-workers and family that have lived there and they all left despite making $100K yr because it was unaffordable when you have a family. A house costs $600K and the state/local income taxes and fees eat up 20% of your income on top of the 25% the feds take. Your $100K becomes $55K and the house you need for your family costs $600K.
The bottom-rung leftists on these forums continually complain about their tax dollars going to welfare programs in the "red" states, but they keep voting for people like pelosi and obama who raise their taxes and increase welfare handouts. If that's not the definition of stupidity, then there is no such thing. If they don't like high taxes and a welfare state, why do they vote for people who want high taxes and a welfare state? I have not had one of them answer that question yet.
FYI - Clowniformia sucks up 39% of federal welfare spending
It's even more hilarious when they bring this up as if it's supposed to reflect well on their intelligence and logical reasoning, when what they are upset about is exactly what their brand of politics advocates. Again they could easily remedy the problem by voting against politicians who oppose bloated welfare policies.
How do you define "poor"?
A northern state may have a higher per capita income, but they also have much higher property taxes and a higher cost of living. A southern state may have a lower per capita income, but they also have lower property taxes and a lower cost of living.
You cannot judge "rich" or "poor" without context.
I have an idea, how about we let the citizens of each state govern themselves, and if you don't like how a state governs itself - stay the hell out.
It's the same with public "education". The libtards equate dollars spent on "education" to quality of education, when that is patently false. We've poured hundreds of billions into "education" and gotten little more than semi literate video game experts in return.
Perhaps we should follow Krugman's advice and simply spend even more?
I think not!
I'm no genius, like the name implies, but if you can game the poor out of their houses, then you and I have a very different definition of poor.
Venturen, and you think the banksters give a damn aabout political parties. They own them both.
James coincidence that bankster and many billionaire's are limo liberals....shelthering their money and spending yours. Is Corzine a conservative? Maybe spending other people's money is better for the wallet and just not the soul?
Of course Corzine is a conservative, he conserves his money while being liberal with everybody elses.
When will people learn that being a member of the productive class or the parasite class is wealth, and party agnostic?
Look! The conservatives hate someone pointing out the truth!
Also 3 of the most uneducated states. Don't know why the downvotes, sometimes the truth hurts.
what i did notice (even in these states) is that there is a bright green spot at each state's local .gov watering hole (aka capital) along with a large one in DC.....
money is being drained from the periphery into the .gov of all levels.....
Fucking idiot Libtard!
Years back I spent a little time in Alabama Unfortuantely. First thing them people did in the morning was say a little prayer, "Thank God for Mississippi."
Probably coincidental, but like the little pink area I live in those folk will fight over the word "Union". In regards to both, the north and workers representation organizations.
Yeah Im sure its coiincidental.
States the truth and get 41 down votes. Now theres an elephant in the living room for ya. But then it may be many have traveled no further than Fox news. And oh yeah MSNBC sucks to.
Same goes for Montana
I thought that the border areas were interesting as well. Particularly how west texas is both dark red and has solid green.
But as someone else mentioned zip codes would have been better representation. Also this is taken from 2006-10 data. Hardly reflective of our current state.
I agree that the zip code breakdown would.be much more representative. As a KY resident, I assure you that some areas in Central, KY which dont appear as high wealth concentrations are belied by this map. Thoroughbred racing is big money.
Big red by Juarez, then just east of there, I think they call that 'big bend' country, then nuevo larado & matamores by the gulf... all big cartel spots.
I don't follow, wouldn't cartel hotspots be green for the CASH that they are making? I think the deep red is because poor immigrant populations make up the majority of the populace. Sparsely populated and no industry.
Juarez and the assorted international bridges are in El Paso county which is only slightly red, Hudspeth county is the dark red but they have less than 4000 people living in that huge stretch of land.(mostly nasty ass desert)
Cartel hot money was not reconciled into these maps since neither the Fed or the locals are able to tax it.
Yeah, I don't know what to make of that 'hudspeth county' thing... all I can say is I think it may be a part of the big bend country that is known as a major path for drug running.
The major drug business is mostly characterized as big money, mansions, gold machine guns, etc, but think of them as the 1%. Fir each one of those there are 99 (or more) people who have lost loved ones, can't find work because of ongoing violence, addicts, or, as shown on the map, big red splotches
The wealthy ones have land and are receiving royalties from oil/gas producers or they work on the rigs. The poor are the illegal immigrants.
The devidendness will really show through when food stamps run out, unemployment insurance no longer exists, social security stops paying out, medicaire, medicaid and disability are no more, the banks collapse and fiat becomes worthless, bonds tank, the US is no longer able to borrow so its spending is restricted to what it can confiscate, other countries no longer accept FRNs, so the US must actually make a product to export in exchange for importing products which will desimate the service sector, government jobs become nonexistant, state and federal pension funds don't pay out, student loans become a thing of the past, and housing collapses in value.
so you are saying... never?
A little sooner than that. And the force of it will be surprising even to those whom expect it most. The ponzi must expand at an increasing rate or implode and it want take much of an increase from the $85B / month rate to cause the crackup boom. Look at the markets...equities are rising while wealth is flowing into bonds which is shown through falling yields.
So much fiat is being created that bonds and stocks are rising very healthily at the same time. But the more this happens, real bond yields are driven even further into negative territory, putting even more pressure to exit bonds, driving the need to print even more to keep yields low, and the quickening of the printing press therefore drives prices even higher, which in turn drives real yields even further into negative territory and drives the need to print even faster to keep yields low. The crackup boom downward spiral may have just started spinning...
Jackson Hole, where the Fed goes fishing...
JHole is a really fucking cold, yet scenic & secure mountain playground for the global elite.
Salt Lake City and most of Utah seem to be doing rather well. Romney must be spreading the wealth.
where exactly is Obummer spreading the wealth????......has anyone noticed his wealth profile is up 200X?...
Wow, judging by all those DOWN arrows, someone really feels a need to defend Salt Lave City & Utah.
Nah, they just hate Mormons.
Those two counties in West TX over 20%, what's up with that? I thought the oil was all gone.
That's what the fearmongers tell you. There are hundreds of rigs out there pumping
lots of .gov spending on infrastructure just now, and plenty of jobs going forward in ole MorManLand. . .
ever wonder how the polygamists still get away with illegal marriage to young sister wives?
But polygamy is their lifestyle choice!
How dare you mock or attack them for that!
Frankly, I would rather push burning bamboo shoots under my fingernails than take part in a plural marriage, but to each their own I say.
I'm not so sure that I'd call multiple underage sister-wives a lifestyle choice, unless one considers sexual grooming of children, or indeed, pedophiles, in a similar fashion. . .
yeah, they're demanding their religious freedom rights - what can one say? that Texas allowed these people to live for years in their "compound" surprises me, given the reaction to the Waco folks previously. religions that incorporate underage girls - or boys, but that's more rare, and hush-hush - to be used by the spiritual leaders, aka "the priesthood" - well, amrka has some history there, definitely. of course, finger pointing at other nations would never reflect the deeply held beliefs of some, that females are merely for sex & baby-making, aka moar sex, younger applicants. people tend to forget that children are normalised to the environment they're raised in, particularly in these cut-off-from-the-world cults. . . why do they always involve men leading, and sex? yeah. . .
can you imagine the absolute OUTRAGE that a cult of women/priestess that "initiated" young boys sexually would raise? "but but, it's my beliefs! it's my religious freedom right!!!" yeah, how 'bout we leave SEX with kids out of the GodlyOnes rights.
any marriage is on my list of "don't go there" - a plural marriage? yeah, shoot me now, heh.
+100
+1000 on your last, tiny sentence. Heh!
Yes I do laugh at those who criticize the Islamists " over there" for this when it's readily seen in there own back yard. Hypocracy indeed. The stories told by those girls who escaped are horrendous. The strong praying on the weak is a theme replayed though out history. We just kid ourselves when we claim we have developed into a more civilized society. All you do is keep it in "compounds". Out of eye it becomes not a problem. Though I do believe AKAK was being sarcastic with the lifestyle name.
Miffed;-)
I can't think of anything in the Yellowstone area that would make folks much richer than the surrounding counties. That's all national park land anyway. Sun Valley, Idaho has many rich denizens, but not as rich as Yellowstone?
JH.....plenty of super wealthy there.....no taxes in Wyoming.
Rest of the state made up of actual working people.
Maybe counting vacationers. Only the wealthy can afford a vacation these days.
Dividend miners
That spot in Wyoming is where movie stars and other wealthy people buy ranches. There's one in far west Texas in the desert too, Davis County I think it is. Tommy Lee Jones got that one going.
Oil, gas, and coal.
According to the National Onion Association, U.S. Onion consumption has increased 50% in the last 20 years.
Bitter news.
Makes me want to cry.
That stinks!
I want a slice of the action.
Your skin is too thin...
Historically bread and onions were the staples of the poor. So this really makes sense.
Miffed:-)
We in the National Onion Haters Association dispute that claim.
That 'rings' a bell...
Say What Again:
You, sir, are an insensitive bastard. ;-) I've had conversations on this site where I've been invited out back for a "smoke" or it has been reported that someone had a "barbecue".
eeeeewwwwwwww
- Ned
{and, unfortunately, I live up Nawth}
This site does pose some unique communication problems, Meat.
You can't refer to someone as "Steaming Wookie Doo" without a potential misunderstanding, and I would never say, In a Coon's ass, because I'm sure Rocky's behind is quite...., proper. Que sera.
I don't know what it is, but I think I'm going to have a BLT this afternoon at Scores.
Ya, y'get those thoughts into your mind, memory of a smell, can't stop thinking about pink elephants and "investments".
Bacon, its the other bi-racial meat.
Michelle doesn't admit that in public, but, well, we all know the truth. - Ned
Hey, Kaiserhoff ... do you just write like that, or do you actually speak like that, too?
If the latter, I wonder which would be funnier ... listening to you or observing the expressions on others who have no understanding of what you just said.
OK, How about we just send the pork to The Marriner S. Eccles Federal Reserve Board Building?
Would that make you happy?
But wait... Judging by your avitar, maybe its the reference to pork that has you upset.
I'll say this again: what gets me upset is sending pork anywhere. Why, there are people on this site who brag about their so-called "barbecue" events.
- Ned
{and I see that you, sir, also have the capability to attract pussy, drive-by junkstaz, must be a talent not as rare as one would wish}
Stay out of Chinese rivers Ned...
Hulk, I stay out of even eye-sight of the Charles River, on my better days. - Ned
Looks like Wall Street is awash in green, long live the manipulation.
Shut off the flow of the money pipeline into the NE through the banking cartel and the Federal money in MD and Northern VA and a very different picture would emerge.
The 'RICH' live in Ivory Towers & within the walls of 'MASONIC TEMPLES' [fashioned after the likes of those of 'King Solomon' & other greats like 'King Herod']...
~~~
The rest?... Everywhere else...
2010?
OK. That's why millionaires don't light up North Dakota like a Christmas Tree.
We are living in interesting times.
Actual unemployment in ND is like, well, skoshi'. Cuz' they actually are working.
I guess that working stiffs are in "poverty". Must be that they are in the "wage slave" category.
- Ned
Green shoots seem to be mostly a coastal flora.
when does the NE put up a huge fucking wall like in "Game of Thrones"?
A more likely scenario is the rest of us wall them off to keep them away.
Don't 'cha know. Then I'll have to exfil with the crowd. Tough getting through NY, though.
- Ned
{and to think, the original work on Liberty was done in (OK, mostly...) VA and MA. How we have changed)
{{deleted partisan and parochial comment about New Yawkaz, really aimed at NYC and Hampton denizens, and the Steinbrenner crowd.}}
A flash Mob got thru and attacked shoppers in Cape Cod, MA, which arguably is even more liberal then NYC. So it's not impossible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8T7k3x9y8o
You could pick your time of the season to do that comparison. In the summah, we could do well to saw off both the cape and longg Island and most of us would be better off for it.
- Ned
{further, I'm a-bettin' that you are of the ilk that approves of the PA Army Reserve indoctrination attempt}
A reddie on ya.
That video was uploaded July 5th, 2011....Harlem shake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckvDo2JHB7o
That's so gauche.
Sanibel Island just raised the toll on the only bridge in to $8.00.
That will limit the uncouth..., and even some of us who still have a little couth;)
skoshi' couth crowd from Cracka'ville ought not get to eat at the Green Flash, anyway.