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Where Do The Rich And Poor Live?

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From counties with a 50%-plus poverty rate to counties with over 20% of household incomes over $200,000, the United States is increasingly becoming a divided union. But all the time American Idol is on, and the iPad is still running, Aldous Huxley's vision of a 'numb' society (as opposed to an Orwellian 1984 'imposed' utopia) seems more and more realistic.

 

 

 

 

 

Source: Visualizing Economics

 

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Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:57 | 3424525 ceilidh_trail
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Can't wait until the next hurricane blows through and they want the rest of us to pay to rebuild their beach...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:44 | 3424632 New_Meat
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let alone the 3 feet of sand to be removed from the second floor time-shares

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 17:52 | 3423915 Agent P
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Is the concentration of wealth in Northwest Wyoming year-round, or only during the Fed conference?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 17:52 | 3423925 kaiserhoff
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Bison are very prosperous.

They just don't flash their pearls, Dahlinck.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 17:54 | 3423935 Yen Cross
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    lol. Jack-Hole.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:41 | 3424047 francis_sawyer
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Overpriced... Thx to the power of joobux...

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Notice the DENVER area as well... Where the jew sellout 'Windsor Family' will find it's solace when they eventually get tossed out on their ass...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 17:54 | 3423932 Bangin7GramRocks
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Ironic that most of the anti-government people hail from the poor ass areas of the country where my money goes.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:28 | 3424014 NotApplicable
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Your money goes to northern VA, duh.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:33 | 3424033 MachoMan
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You realize that the graphs are in %, right?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:35 | 3424039 Harbanger
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It's not ironic that most of the pro-establishment States also have most of the Feds fiat.  Lets see the map after the financial collapse.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:52 | 3424517 sun tzu
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Wrong, you idiot. No state is 100% republican or democrat. Look at who those impoverished areas voted for. South Texas was for Obama. Most of the big cities in the south are for obama. Then you have people who are jsut fine living in the rural areas of the south, living off the land and bartering. That isn't reported as income, so they're counted as poor. 

The funny thing is you left-wing retards keep complaining about your taxes going to fund welfare, yet you keep voting for idiots like pelosi, obama, and other clowns who keep raising your taxes and dishing out more welfare. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 17:55 | 3423937 Strider52
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I never really liked Poverticans.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:10 | 3423945 Say What Again
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Yes, but I do like the image used for your icon.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:30 | 3424213 Jim in MN
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Cynthia Myers, good choice.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:05 | 3423938 akak
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This map is half bullshit, as the coarse granularity of using county-wide data completely hides HUGE pockets of poverty, such as in Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago and certain parts of New York City, none of which can be seen here as they are blended and averaged-out with more affluent areas within the same counties.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:09 | 3423950 silverserfer
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yes, and the high poverty areas also happen to be high obesity areas. Go figure

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:24 | 3424205 Croesus
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They're POAR because they eat MOAR

Don't pick on fatties....they are contributing to the economy: They eat fast food (creating jobs), buy larger-sized clothes (creating more jobs), and need to go to the doctor more (again, creating more jobs). Then, when they're too fucking fat to move around, they go on disability (creating still MOAR jobs). Fat people benefit the economy!

Since we live in an economy 70%-driven by consumer spending, and 70% of Americans are obese, is it therefore possible to say that "Fat people account for the bulk of consumer spending in the economy?"

MOAR FATTIES!  </sarc>

PS> Maybe the Bernank will find a way to print cheeseburgers.....

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:53 | 3424519 sun tzu
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How can this be? Moochelle says the po keyyyyids are starving to deaf due to the evil republicans' sequester that her hubby king obama signed into law

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:58 | 3424681 The Second Rule
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High poverty areas, especially in inner cities, tend to be devoid of certain businesses, most noticeably grocery stores. So residents procure "food," e.g. chips, donuts, ice cream and beer, from the racks at the corner gas station or Quick-E-Mart; I've patronized a few of these establishments and have yet to see an organic food section in any of them. Fast food is the only other alternative the poor have. As a result, and not surprisingly, obesity skyrockets. It is becoming harder and harder for someone who is poor to make it out of their demographic, and into the middle class. One of the reasons is that poor people often "look like they are poor." This creates a bad impression with future employers, landlords, bank managers, et al. As a result they become stuck in their social milieu and many simply give up on the idea that there is any hope of getting out. Thus the cycle perpetuates. Which itself is not really true, not anymore. Today's America is marked by the rapid destruction of the middle class. We are becoming a bipolar society with the very wealthy at the top, and a range of lower middle class to poverty at the bottom.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:25 | 3424988 sun tzu
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Why wouldn't grocery stores want to be in high density urban areas? That's a question that needs to be answered. 

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 01:29 | 3425208 The Second Rule
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Ah it's not that big of a mystery. High crime, high shoplifting, low sales volume. Not rocket science.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 05:23 | 3425344 MisterMousePotato
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Gotta watch this, Second Rule (everyone else, too, for that matter). Ron Finley. Guerilla gardner. Just great:

http://www.ted.com/talks/ron_finley_a_guerilla_gardener_in_south_central...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:13 | 3423954 kaiserhoff
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Exactly.

These maps would have you believe that South Chicago and Gary, Indiana are better off than Iowa.

Sweet Jesus.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:17 | 3423978 McMolotov
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What?! So if I live in a tent next door to Lloyd Blankfein, I don't get wealthier by osmosis?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:25 | 3424001 akak
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No, but you might wake up as a pod person one of these days.

I would be careful.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:52 | 3424088 MsCreant
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You must be Occupying Goldman Sachs! 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:37 | 3424227 Tsunami Wave
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There were maps released a couple years ago by the census bureau that show the ethnicities that live in this big cities.. blacks, hispanics, white people, etc.  Some of it would make you think apartheid exists in those cities in America.. that's a typical reason why there poverty (and one which Barry Choomwagon harps on to keep racial division/class warfare alive)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:22 | 3423993 fuu
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I'm having a hard time seeing Baltimore and DC in there.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:30 | 3424123 francis_sawyer
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Fully ensconsced in the MIC contractor & otherwise, 'Entitlement' complex [Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Grumman, etc.]... Not to mention Aberdeen Proving Grounds, Edgewood Arsenal, Ft. Meade [NSA], & Andrews... Plus ~ NIH, Walter Reed, FNMA, SSA, & about anything else... you know... CRUCIAL... That ever did or could exist [which is to say ~ adds considerably to the DEBT owed to a private banking franchise]... & most ~ administrated &/or coordinated by [insert 'mathematically abberational statistical anomality' reply here]...

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I know, I know... Whocoodanode?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:33 | 3424028 Stuck on Zero
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Every rich area needs a poor area nearby to supply house maids, gardeners, and shoe shiners.

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:02 | 3424534 darteaus
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and politicians.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:05 | 3424119 YHC-FTSE
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+1 There's something weird about the wealth map. One of the biggest concentrations of wealth is in the NW quadrant of Wyoming. Forgive the ignorance if I'm wrong, but if memory serves that's Yellowstone Park isn't it? Are Yogi bear and Booboo earning 200k + a year along with Bambi and Thumper? 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:17 | 3424162 dick cheneys ghost
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Jackson Hole...........Thats where the banksters meet to determine the fate of the world

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:25 | 3424180 FinalCollapse
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Jackson Hole - playground of very rich and famous. Their income is off the charts. It is located just south of the Yellowstone NP. No housing projects there - just ranches and big log houses. You can spot billionaires and Hollywood actors. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:04 | 3424333 YHC-FTSE
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Thank you both for making sense to a Brit. One can only hope the super volcano under Yellowstone spews out onto the whole lot of them next time they meet up at Jackson Hole to decide our fate.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:13 | 3424568 Cathartes Aura
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the area also houses Dick Chaineee & Co., known to have profited handsomely through his Halliburton War Assistance in Iraq. . .

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 05:25 | 3425346 MisterMousePotato
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I think Jackson Browne and Dan Fogelburg (sp?) both lived thereabouts.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:27 | 3424586 FinalCollapse
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You are welcome.

I hope for neutron bomb style of eruption that takes banksta to the outer space and leaves the beautiful nature intact. There is a reason for the super rich infesting that area - the views of the Teton mountains and the Snake river are just unbelievably beautiful. If you are visitng the Yellowstone NP make sure you take ride south to the Grand Teton NP and Jackson Hole. 

The last time I was there I met Brits at the gas station (2006). Their national soccer team just lost to Portugal in World Cup Quarter-finals - didn't want to discuss soccer but couldn't stop talking about the beauty of the area.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:59 | 3424892 Prometheus418
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Well, they are all celebrities.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 12:05 | 3426818 Chaos_Theory
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I'd like to see more granularity.  In these formats/areas: zipcode, race, sex, education (further broken out with which degrees/certifications), and in actual numbers shown in one of those sweet looking icon charts that put complex numbers into easy to see examples (such as the who has what part of the Cyprus debt from couple of weeks ago).  For the last, I imagine it would be interesting to know who has what exact number at the poverty line and "rich" line with cost of living factored in by zip code. 

However, that might show some uncomfortable details to the internet masturbating to "Conservatives are on the dole" meme today.  It also might/will show certified mechanics, electricians and pipe fitters w/o degrees making more than liberal arts majors...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:10 | 3423946 Catullus
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$200k in household income is high? Shit.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:13 | 3423966 Political_Savage
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I deem thee "RICH" bitch - bend over, it's only "fair"

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:27 | 3424994 sun tzu
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You're a rich rotten criminal who stomped on and robbed a poor brown person according to the leftists. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:09 | 3423951 FLHRS
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Washington DC is the biggest con.  It used to be minimal in overall wealth until the 1960s when big government blew up.  Now it's soaked with cash from the Feds and lobbyists.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:52 | 3424082 Jendrzejczyk
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...and the gay population.

They transformed many of the worst areas in DC into showcase neighborhoods.

No matter what you think of them, they are a brave population. The areas they moved into were hell holes in the 80's.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:29 | 3424204 conspicio
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I refer to Richard Florida and his case for the gays...errr, "creative class"...transforming cities. Problem is, someone has called bullshit on that cabal...Enrico Moretti. Pretty convincing case by Mr. Moretti that gays can move and transform all they want, but they don't move economies one iota.

That said, in order for the gays to move into and transform these places, they don't run around displacing drug dealers and heroin shacks (because ewww, heroin is gross and stuff), they overwhelmingly tend to displace a minority family or individuals in poverty further from the cities, further from the jobs, or even some regular old white folk in lower earnings brackets. And while the last ones out of the hood may see some decent appreciation, the gay gentrifiers I know aren't stupid about buying into those markets. And they feel just a passing tinge of guilt for getting an unreal price to the detriment of their seller.

I encourage everyone to displace the poor in the name of cultural rehabilitation. If you do it groups, you can make use federal money, make a fat profit AND feel like a "brave" frontier capitalist at the end of the day. Kudos to the gays, right? Savin the 'hood...one real estate deal at a time.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:38 | 3424461 Jendrzejczyk
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Appreciate the Moretti tip. Didn't realize there was scholarly work in this arena. Obviously,I have a bit of research to do on this topic.

I was going on my "on the ground" observations of being involved in the restoration of abandonded heroin and crack houses in the 80's and 90's throughout the inner city. I do feel sorry for the prostitutes that were displaced.

The first ones in had some balls, the ones that followed took a risk that paid off. The sellers got more for their shacks than they would have if the gays hadn't taken the risk.

 

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:30 | 3424207 kaiserhoff
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Yes, but,

No kids means...  junior doesn't go to school in a combat zone.  It's a major difference.

Some people are house poor by choice.  Not always a bad choice.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:14 | 3423965 q99x2
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Well if you don't have a graph that shows indebted states you'd think CA's liberalism is a great way to go. That is not so. I costs a lot to party for decades. Now that BitCoin has gone up so much I'm glad I took a 15 year vacation and then bought BitCoins.

I'm telling ya there is no need to work. Ever. That is the greatest thing I've learned in life.

I've lived with those people that work and was one of them early on. Had them as partners. They go around like crazy people, get divorced, crash cars, get put on psychotropic drugs, drink, have strokes, and on and on. A lot of them even watc TV.

Joseph Campbell's saying of Follow Your Bliss hit me early on. I gave up a $100,000+ a year systems integration job and had the time of my life. Now I'm studying the great accomplisments in literature and in the unfolding of the human psyche. Also jogging.

So what does it mean to be human? BitCoin just recently made a huge number of open source people a lot of fucking money. They did the right thing, although mostly out of necessity as programmers--they couldn't help themselves. They provided for the development of the Internet, the genome project and BitCoin.

This is what happens to people that do what is intrinsic to their personalities.

In the case of those that strive after moneyand power...those that are driven by uncontrolled greed well they are the cause of horrendous damage to themselves and the entire freaking planet. As humans they wage war against God to put it in philosophical terms. For God is a concept they never took the time to understand. They run from death rather than learning and coming to terms with their mortality.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:16 | 3423973 Black Markets
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What a load of old shit.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:11 | 3424147 knukles
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Not enough people care about God anymore.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:20 | 3424585 Cathartes Aura
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plenty of people mouthing the God-words, but very few of them living the God-principles. . .

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 03:14 | 3425279 mkhs
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Which god?

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 10:05 | 3426180 darteaus
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God usually has a way of fixing that, and it's not pleasant.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:50 | 3424511 Pure Evil
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I'm kinda of reminded of the tech craze before 2000.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:00 | 3424529 darteaus
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Is your name McAfee?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:14 | 3423970 Black Markets
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There's a bigger North / South divide in the USA than there is in Europe.

 

Boy you pussies just suck it up huh?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:24 | 3423988 Wakanda
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100+miles to the nearest shaded county.  The local towns have built special buildings to distribute food every week.  The parking lots on food day are busy, it's a social event.  Folks get cheese, bread, milk and exchange tips and gossip.  The aisles of the local Walmarts can be scary.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:33 | 3424034 Black Markets
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That yellow plastic stuff that Americans eat is not cheese.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:41 | 3424058 McMolotov
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It's pasteurized process cheese product: the breakfast, lunch, and dinner of champions.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:51 | 3424091 Black Markets
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I've seen it, and it looks vile. I can't tell where the packaging ends and the edible bit starts.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:59 | 3424106 McMolotov
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It's all the same stuff, so just throw in the plastic wrapper, too, sometimes the cardboard box if you're feeling the need for some fiber.

In fact, in the future, government rations will consist solely of a box of Velveeta and instructions to melt the cheese and plastic and use it as a dip for the cardboard.

Hobo nachos.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:07 | 3424134 Black Markets
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I thought that was what they were already doing?

 

Melting down old yoghurt pots and painting them yellow. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:04 | 3424127 DosZap
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That yellow plastic stuff that Americans eat is not cheese

It is if your on Welfare.

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:58 | 3424685 toady
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Gotsta luv me some gubmint cheese!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:37 | 3424042 MachoMan
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I'm pretty sure the entire red blob in mississippi is moving to northeast arkansas...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:43 | 3424064 kaiserhoff
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The truth will set you free.

(If only it were that easy.)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:24 | 3423998 denverdolomte
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Where do Rich People and Poor People live?

Rich People : Fantasy Land, Land of Hopes and Dreams.

Poor People : Reality.

 


Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:25 | 3424002 Diamond Jim
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well if this is supposed to be a "Brave New World" Huxley "Utopia"...where is my "soma" ???

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:32 | 3424024 NotApplicable
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Somewhere back in the 1990's.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:32 | 3424029 Wakanda
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Cheaper from Canada, eh?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:37 | 3424045 exgop
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Soma is the tv

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:24 | 3424004 Captain Willard
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A zip-code map would be much more interesting. You are rarely more than a short walk from an angry mob.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:44 | 3424063 Forty Six and 2
Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:47 | 3424071 wee-weed up
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Captain Willard

And unfortunately, an angry mob is rarely more than a short walk from you...

especially if you live in a big city.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:34 | 3424032 ILikeBoats
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Notice the cancer of DC.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:36 | 3424041 exgop
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The green map looks like a Jew map

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:43 | 3424059 Black Markets
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Are you saying Jewish people are green?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:23 | 3424177 kaiserhoff
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Maybe a little around the gills.

Ben doesn't look well, lately.  Have you noticed.  Like his liver is yearning to be free.

Or maybe he's pregnant by an alien....

Paging our artist in residence;)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:41 | 3424052 Fruitcake
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Please someone tell the poor fools that the recovery is firmly on track !!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:46 | 3424074 Oldwood
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The only thing that will make 50% of Americans happy is 100% of Americans poor.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:50 | 3424079 are we there yet
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Rather vivid how Washington DC is sucking money into itself from the rest of the country.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:59 | 3424109 Oldwood
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Its not sucking it. It is the source. Money streaming out of its blow hole and filtering back down into the pockets of its supporting cast.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 00:48 | 3425167 are we there yet
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We can respectfully disagree on congresses various orifices and there input exit functions.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:49 | 3424081 kwality
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I live in a dark green area and I have to say I am glad that there are all of these smug BMW/Mercedes/Ferrari/Range Rover/etc - driving diptards marking themselves as clear targets for when the have-nots go after the haves.  While they are pulling Muffy Soccer Mom out of the front of her Porsche or home-invasioning her while Tripp is at work and relieving her of her wallet, jewelry, and perhaps life, I will be safe in my rusted out shitcan-mobile and just-far-enough-from-the-poor-side apt. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:56 | 3424104 Black Markets
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So you spend your days fantasising over violence against young women from your unabomber style bolt-hole in the woods?

 

I'll be back in a second whilst I check that you are definitely on "the list".

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:02 | 3424114 Oldwood
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If you have a nice car, just drive it like you stole it!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:08 | 3424329 kwality
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Oh, they already do, and since I know many of them get their money from Wall Street, I guess it's kind of like they already have.

 

And, other commenter dork, I named my woodsy bolt-hole "Fort Schadenfreude" - it's a cold dark place indeed, but luckily I have my hate to keep me warm at night.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:31 | 3424431 Dave Thomas
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Hate is too much work, try apathy, it's what's for dinner.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:14 | 3424728 kwality
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MMMMmmmmmm.  Yes please.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:54 | 3424667 Bangin7GramRocks
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Another asshole with silver coins, canned food and a pistol who thinks life will be so great after society fails. Don't hate people who have succeeded. Try harder to succeed and don't just dream of some horrifying future where you will finally be a "big man".

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:18 | 3424739 kwality
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Nope nope nope and nope.  I just don't make a target of myself with flashy living.   Thanks for playing, grab a gift bag on your way out. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:07 | 3424926 Prometheus418
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Yeah, fuck you too.

I don't live in a dark green area, just a no-color middle of the road one.  But it's shitheads like you that got my wife a good guard dog and some 12-ga training.

Rich or poor, you mess with my lady, and I'll find you and make you wish you were "only" dead.  Take it to heart.  I'm a po' boy by the standards of this site, but I can still give you a drone enema if you're deserving.  

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:52 | 3424084 Vince Clortho
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The Poverty rate or a map of Indian Reservations in the U.S.?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:05 | 3424131 Oldwood
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They are their own sovereign nation. It's their problem, right? They got their casinos and we got Wall Street. Its working out for everyone!

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 03:42 | 3425293 AnAnonymous
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Sovereign nation, the 'american' way. They are so sovereign that they can weave their foreign trade/military alliances. Which can be expected from sovereign nations.

The day Indians can lease their land for a foreign military base to install... Quite some money to take from that.

But, hey, 'americanism' is as 'american' does. So those sovereign nations will stay sovereign as sovereign 'americans' want sovereign to be.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 03:49 | 3425296 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

The day Indians can lease their land for a foreign military base to install... Quite some money to take from that.

I have to agree with AnAnonymous on this one. They're about as sovereign as Tibet.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 18:58 | 3424103 are we there yet
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We need a federal-federal income tax. Where all federal workers pay and aditional income tax on top of the regular one because they are parasites.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:02 | 3424118 Oldwood
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NO just pay them in food stamps and section eight vouchers.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:04 | 3424129 hooligan2009
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just dont make it worth their while leaving their jobs and taking benefits..60,000 average salary plus pension benefits..tax rate of 60% to get it to 24,000 ought to cover it..now you might hear a lot of squealing from the police, the fire service and teachers as well as the civil servants..their average is alittle higher

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 00:41 | 3425149 are we there yet
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Police and fire are local so excluded. Military should be excluded as well. Lobbyist and lawyers should be doubly taxed as well.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:08 | 3424141 CunnyFunt
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If you combine these results with fema blast and fallout models, you might find some interesting overlaps.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:13 | 3424142 newengland
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Government stats and private interest group stats are flawed and fraud in every way. It is the age old problem: how to steal money from the many for the few.

Income and poverty is best judged by the state of your own community, and bank balance.

This is why the 10th Amendment and the sovereignty of states was considered to be very important...and it is most hated by statists, socialists, communists, fascists, nazis and zionists.

A neighbor is more important than a number.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:13 | 3424151 hooligan2009
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hmmm..whats going on in denver and colaroado springs (middle of colorado) oh..and aspen..i see..they must have asked the quesion in the ski season.

salt lake city in the north east of utah..delta airlines pay well?

and 

i guess they pay the rangers and firefighters a bunch in yellowstone in the northwest of wyoming, else the tourists have loads of money!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:22 | 3424386 denverdolomte
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NW Wyoming is Jackson Hole, one of the top five most expensive places to live.

Denver....research Cherry Hills Village and it's inhabitants. (A real estate agent I know was doing open houses in this neighborhood and told me of a man that literally walked into one of the homes and wrote a check for $11 million on the spot)

Colorado Springs is industry stuff and military stuff, hence money.

Aspen is the top of the top, you know $48.5 million dollar houses and such.  From 2011 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870377570457616255329792826...

(In that article notice all the professions of the resident home owners in Aspen. As well as Cherry Hills Village Denver)

 

when SHTF this is the last place I want to be.

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:16 | 3424159 Metal Minded
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God Bless the Child- Blood, Sweat and Tears(5:55)-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04rClGsbWp4

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:32 | 3424196 newengland
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Amen, brother sister. God bless the Child.

The lyrics and instrumentals fuse white, black latino, and the spiritualism,  heart felt hope of this country, made by our own.

Made by our own, defended by our own. Too much abused by cynics and scammers, new and old.

One quadrillion $ of unregulated otc derivatives ensures the bankruptcy of the world. Made in Wall St and Washington, London, Brussels and other global capitals.

We will have our own, long after they kill each other.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:22 | 3424170 TrustbutVerify
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It would be interesting to see these numbers/colors/shading adjusted for cost of living. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:35 | 3424221 Jim in MN
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Well, the Gini coefficient is a better overall indicator.  But social science aside, how many pixels does it take to demonstrate that rampant, bloodthirsty corruption is destroying the country before our eyes???

 

Nary a mention in the State of the Union.  Gay marriage, show trials of guns, drone invasions......anything but the real truth. 

 

There are no other issues.  Corruption, or democracy.  That is the only issue left.  And for many here it's already over.  I choose to continue to struggle.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:50 | 3424236 newengland
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Agreed. No surrender. We must hang together or we most certainly will hang apart.

PS

I prefer the Republic. Democracy is extremist, and only works until politicians figure out how to bribe people to steal other people's money. Confidence tricksters always seek to dupe the many for their private profit.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:22 | 3424387 mick_richfield
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Let me print money at will,

and give me a representative democracy,

and I will own the entire political spectrum within 40 years.

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:10 | 3424557 newengland
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Rothschild did that :-)

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 08:36 | 3425714 Ckierst1
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And that's why the Rothschilds support Globalism.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:35 | 3424437 Jim in MN
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Oh yeah, I am with you there.  My fantasy is to start a New National Party using the 1956 Democratic and Republican platforms as a basis....sort of a Venn diagram adding in new issues and overlapping the two parties' positions on those that were around then (guns and butter).

But today it would cost $100-250 million to mount a national party.  On the other hand, there seems to be no peaceful alternative.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:13 | 3424566 newengland
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We will do as we ever did, as Americans. Defend our own in our own communities. 

American troops were the only ones to refuse to hand their jewish comrades to the Nazis.

Zionism is bad for jews, and everyone else.

Yet zionists globalists and international financiers use the USA, insist on dual passports to Israel, send jobs abroad, and underestimate the will of ordinary Americans to defend the Constitution, for our community.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:31 | 3424424 jumbo maverick
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About three years ago we went past the acceptable Gini number. The violence should have started back then but why didn't it? The only thing I can figure is the TV, computers and the guaranteed food stamps.

I'm telling you, and this is just from where I live, if the guaranteed food stops, and I would give it 24 hours not three days, much violence will take place.

When the parasite crowd has to go without food for 24 hours it will get crazy.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:39 | 3424242 balz
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I don't like the map. 200,000$ in New York is not that much in comparison to let's say 200,000$ in Montana. What about a self-sufficient farmer with a 15,000$ income: is he poor ?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:46 | 3424264 kaiserhoff
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Agreed Jim,

The money is small potatoes.  This is a failure of democracy and rule of law.

A coup by a small, cynical, powerful group seemed silly in my youth, but all the checks and balances have failed.  Every level of government is compliant.  No one in power is really leaning against this shit.  Much less trying to stop it.

I still think they will choke on their own brew, because they are so arrogant and stupid, but what comes next? 

That is the reason to fight the beast.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:57 | 3424309 newengland
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The founding rule of law, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights is being whittled away by the international financiers, paying off politicians to schmooze the majority into debt slavery.

That is the way of socialism, communism, zionism, and the nightmare now facing their last enemy: the USA.

Money is nothing when all around you are dead. George Soros knows this.

Imagine the trauma of a child when he is forced to accompany a looter, and his soul dies, and all he thinks about is money to survive; never be poor. Bad men made me do it.

That is the psychosis of the post WWII zionists who came to the USA, and have no sense of community. They never knew it.

We have something to protect in the USA, something we of many hands made. Our Constitution protects us.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:23 | 3424391 mick_richfield
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How can a piece of paper protect us?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:41 | 3424455 newengland
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Never did. Never will. Paper money is fraud. And the 'sage of Omaha' thinks only jews fleeing nazis buy gold. Hateful fool on the inside track of politics, he is.

Oh, hang on, you might be referring to the rule of law, the Constitution, the only thing that defends you against the marauding hordes of international financiers.

All paper is not equal. Some paper is made by blood, brains, and everlasting love of community.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:55 | 3424289 Agent 440
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I don't know about these things... you have to realize that there is so much gaming of poverty programs that the statistics are unreliable. If a county thinks they can get more money by showing need... A lot of these agencies are good at coaching applications for benefits. Just saying...

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 19:56 | 3424310 Oquities
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you have to account for the fact that the counties where t. boone pickens and ted turner live, that the income per capita is distorted vs other averages

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:22 | 3424760 toady
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I'm pretty sure one of those green specks in the middle of nowhere, TX, is Mr. Pickins.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:09 | 3424341 razorthin
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It's relative, and I really feel for the impoverished.  But I can tell you that $200K where I live in NY suburbia makes you a lower-mid, hardly "rich".  Why is it when we talk about "the rich" and its income, we never index cost of living??

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:35 | 3424448 The Alarmist
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Good thing we keep importing all those folks from the third world so that they can show the rest of us how to live as peasants as the S continues THTF.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:06 | 3424850 toady
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Sorry, thus comment waas a response to 'darteous' below ... I have no idea why it posted below your comment...

That's something I rail on about on occasion. Year-to-year income is nothing compared to fortunes collected over decades or centuries, yet you never hear statistics about that.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:34 | 3424435 ATM
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Where do the rich and poor live? I want addresses!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:35 | 3424445 newengland
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Funniest comment on this thread ;-)

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:36 | 3424450 Stinko da Munk
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Thanks to ZeroHedge I now know where I shall rampage, pillage and loot when the SHTF. A veritable Zagat guide to pigs who will go up against the wall!

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:42 | 3424474 Croesus
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@ ATM, et al:

I don't know about kleptocrats or po folk like me, but the Bernank lives in Skillman, NJ

http://www.celebrityhousepictures.com/ben-bernanke.php

 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:52 | 3424509 newengland
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NJ, the poor man's Greenwich. The problem with Bernanke is that he was told his degree would get him more, and it didn't, so now he liebors on, ad nauseum. He's a believer, not a deceiver. Fool.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:50 | 3424515 creeko
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If poverty were measured by any real standard, you'd certainly see a lot more red. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:58 | 3424521 newengland
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There is only one true color: red white and blue, the Constitution. For you. For me. For anyone who comes to live and defend the principles of the USA. Everything else is foreign.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:31 | 3424790 toady
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That's three colors dude.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 20:56 | 3424522 darteaus
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Yawn.  Yet another article that conflates income with wealth.

If I'm living in a $3M house in Silicon Valley and living on Social Security, I don't have much income, and I am wealthy.

If I mortgage my house to open a restaurant, lose my A$$ for two years before making $200K in year 3, I am not "rich".

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:04 | 3424533 newengland
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The problem with these statistics by government and private interest groups is that they do not live in the economy occupied by most people.

Statistics today serve the age old problem: how to steal money from most to pay the few: the money managers, socialists, communists, zionists, and their un-Federal no-Reserve Board, a private corporation that serves the old monarchies of Britain and Europe, and the Vatican.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:15 | 3424572 dolph9
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Americans have been conned.

Unless you have physical metals outside of the system, you likely have no financial wealth whatsoever.  It's all a managed show.

 

What good is a dollar if the country itself falls apart?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:17 | 3424578 StarTedStackin'
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Disagree.

 

 

While diversifying into metals is good, equities and real estate will also hold their value in periods of high  inflation.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:26 | 3424595 akak
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Unless they are taxed out from under you by an increasingly desperate and rapacious government willing to go to any length whatsoever to maintain a corrupt and failing status-quo power structure.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:43 | 3424628 Croesus
Mon, 04/08/2013 - 23:17 | 3424961 Prometheus418
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Don't forget tools and art.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 08:16 | 3425638 Ckierst1
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And guns and ammo.  Gee, pretty soon I'll be a Renaissance Man.  I think I'd prefer the Enlightenment.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:20 | 3424576 StarTedStackin'
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 21:52 | 3424665 Inspector Bird
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An observation about silly charts like these:

I live in the NYC area and my wife and I have a HH income which puts us in the top 10% of the US.  Sadly, this barely allows us to be middle class.  Why?  Home prices here are absurdly high, commuting costs are absurdly high, food and clothing costs are absurdly high, and so on.
If I moved 1 hour west, my commuting costs would rise, and I would spend 4 hours a day commuting to work.  However, I'd save a ridiculous amount on property taxes, home mortgage, and food.  I'd also have to put up with public schools which are substandard (though maybe I could afford to send my kids to private school).

Neither of these charts say anything to me, in particular.  I don't believe the poverty rate is properly calibrated or calculated.  Poverty is a funny thing.  I work at a soup kitchen and the kids have Nikes, iPods/phones, and the moms all have their Gucci.  I'm not saying they necessarily bought any of this, nor am I saying they stole it.  It's possible some of it was picked up at discount centers, or yardsales, or clothing drops.  My point is that the value system of the poor is completely out of whack.  They are poor not because of where they live or what they do - but because of what they value.

Presidents like Obama enable this because they believe the problem is lack of money, and by 'reallocating' wealth they can make things 'better'.  They are sadly mistaken and only encourage these people to spend what little they have on other worthless crap that seems to imply wealth, but doesn't.  And after buying all this, they expect more money because they are still 'poor'. 

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:04 | 3424705 Cathartes Aura
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I too do volunteer work at food pantries/shelters - consider the "Gucci" you see is knock-off fakes, or one of the other possibilities you listed. . . people falling through the net often spend much time trying to appear as if they're not hurting, girls do each other's hair/nails, guys might live in a nice leather jacket, score some label'd footwear from a friendly volunteer, etc.

the kids are more keen eyed, so when they wear a label, they usually go for the real thing. . . sadly.

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:12 | 3424725 pfairley
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Interesting comment INSPECTOR BIRD. But your image here tends to slight individuals trapped in the crowds of poor....those individuals are held down and damaged by their peer groups, noisy classrooms, abusive bullies, drugs, alcohol etc.." You say " They are poor not because of where they live or what they do - but because of what they value."..The individual who might otherwise do well is injured by what the OTHERS around him value...or don't value. I think you would agree with that.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 03:37 | 3425288 AnAnonymous
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They are poor not because of where they live or what they do - but because of what they value.
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Absolutely. How could it be otherwise in an 'american' world, considering what 'americanism' is about.

All that consumption by poor serves one goal: bettering the 'american' middle class welfare.

Obama, as your typical 'american' president, has only be reallocated wealth to serve We The People aka the 'american' middle class.

Tue, 04/09/2013 - 03:55 | 3425302 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Obama, as your typical 'american' president, has only be reallocated wealth to serve We The People aka the 'american' middle class.

This story of Obama reminds me of the Troma movie "Bankers' Monster in the Closet". Never seen it?

Mon, 04/08/2013 - 22:04 | 3424707 StarTedStackin'
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"the rich" live in counties that make them not so rich.

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