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S&P All-Time Highs But VIX And Credit Unamused; BitCoin Crashes

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Treasury yields finally got back up to pre-Payrolls levels today but there was no stopping stocks as the S&P 500 finally broke its all-time highs (and yay verily there was much rejoicing).USDJPY pushed on lower (despite a decent spike on early comments from Kuroda that 'the market misunderstood') edging ever closer to the magic 100 level. This JPY-cross weakness provided the ammo (along with a 5-6bps decompression in bond yields) to take stocks on to new highs (from Friday's close, JPY is down 2.28% vs the USD and AUD up 1.5%) Gold and Silver had a tough day, giving back yesterday's gains. The only stock index to lose today was the S&P Small Caps but Materials and Homebuilders lagged the market. Equities topped around the European close and from then channeled sideways (with a little 330pm ramp effort) but credit markets and VIX were not buying into this move at all. As the Nasdaq had it best day of the year, so Bitcoin, umm, didn't - losing over 50% of its highs intraday. Trannies are the best off the post-NFP gap-down-open, up an impressively ridiculous 4.7%.


From the NFP gap open in cash markets...


And Treasuries retraced back to pre-NFP levels...


But VIX wasn't fully engaged... as it seems protection was sought...


and credit markets (while they did play catc up into the close) were not buying into the exuberance...


Everything is one market now...


Gold and Silver rolled over today but noth remain above pre-NFP levels...


and while shareholders the world over were celebrating their unrealized fiat 'wealth', it appears BitCoin holders were realizing losses...

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Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:16 | 3433390 HD
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General Tagge: What of the Rebellion? If the Rebels have obtained a complete technical reading of this station, it is possible, however unlikely, they might find a weakness and exploit it.

Admiral Motti: Any attack made by the Rebels against this station would be a useless gesture, no matter what technical data they have obtained. This station is now the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it!

Darth Vader: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

Admiral Motti: Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient Jedi religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you enough clairvoyance to find the rebels' hidden fortress...

[Vader makes a pinching motion and Motti starts choking]

Darth Vader: I find your lack of faith disturbing.


Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:22 | 3433412 Bearwagon
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"He is just a boy, and Obi Wan can no longer help him."

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:25 | 3433431 camaro68ss
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Who here got cought holding the Bitcoin bag. hahaha

hot potato hot potato hot potato

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:47 | 3433580 Say What Again
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... "Trannies are the best off the post"


Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:07 | 3433720 malikai
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I hope all the BTC traders were able to get some of that tasty dip.


Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:26 | 3433823 AllThatGlitters
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Looked like a coordinated attack on Gold today.

However, silver looks like just a normal pullback, coiled and ready to take another leg up.

Check out silver's live 30-minute chart: 


I'll stand clear of bitcoin, as I'm not a trader.  :-)

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:22 | 3434055 labestiol
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Bitcoin is fine, still DESTROYING anything else YTD...


Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:09 | 3433731 The Abstraction...
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Sell silver, buy corsets and gowns.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:25 | 3433819 fuu
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Sell gold, buy Lulu.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:23 | 3433816 auric1234
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I admit to be holding a few cents of BTC. I bought them at $70 just for fun, then when I read the news of it hitting $250, I moved them to Mt.Gox with intent of selling, but at the last minute I thought: "what the heck, maybe it lasts a few more days before bursting".

Fortunately I didn't get serious into "investing" in BTC. I only bought some so that I stood ready to use them for payment of goods and services in case an opportunity arised.


Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:43 | 3433906 A Nanny Moose
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How exactly does one price goods and services in something so volatile with an intrinsic value of ZERO? How do I price an hour of my labor in BTC, if I do not know what one BTC is worth from one minute to the next?

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 21:31 | 3434721 malikai
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Well, do you take doallars? What do you reckon the intrinsic is on the doallar? Apart from BTUs, that is.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 23:01 | 3435057 RebelDevil
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And that is what truly sucks about extreme volitility in any currency.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 01:25 | 3435347 Kirk2NCC1701
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Glad some else noticed. That's the exact Q I've been asking the last few days.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:09 | 3434010 tabasco71
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I understand bitcoin today was due to DDOS attacks...?

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 19:23 | 3434261 StarTedStackin'
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Just the two douchebags who down arrowed you.......




BitCoin= Digital Pet Rock






Who will have stolen that by tomorrow?

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:36 | 3433489 TraderTimm
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It will be the broader market's turn in May.

I'm sure all the bitcoin haters will be out in force saying that a big swing means bitcoin is 'dead' or 'finished', etc... Sure guys, we've been through this a few times already - just wait and see.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:10 | 3433745 RSBriggs
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Don't worry about it.   These are the same losers that were calling a bubble in Google stock when it hit $100....

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:33 | 3433856 AllThatGlitters
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Google = Virtual Ownership of the Internet, Earnings Growth...

Bitcoin = Faith in Others to Buy Later


* I am not currently an investor in Google.


Amended:  Google "equaled" as in past tense. Now, both are driven off faith, but one has actual assets, enterprise value and significantly more utility.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 01:28 | 3435350 Kirk2NCC1701
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Fine. But if you want to get technical, even fiat is driven by 'faith'. You believe that others will take it -- until they don't.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 19:26 | 3434265 StarTedStackin'
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sell in May and all?




What happens to PMs, oh Oracle?






Wed, 04/10/2013 - 22:37 | 3434977 TraderTimm
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Yeah, it aligns with the classic pattern - but there's indications it may be the SELL frenzy that ZH-ers have been looking for....

I love how when BTC swings, its all of a sudden 'dead'. Yeah, you (and people like you) said it was 'dead' in 2011. We're still here. And we're going to continue to be here. Better watch those "STAWKS".

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 22:52 | 3435020 RebelDevil
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Volitility is opportunity. :D

I put a 20 in earlier. Who else did!?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 01:31 | 3435355 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ditto. But haven't gone to pay the invoice at a real store. If the price is still wrong tomorrow, ill let it expire.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:19 | 3433401 mdtrader
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Sam Zell just said the stock market is like housing in 2006 on CNBC, ironically David Rosenberg is buying any pull-backs.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:20 | 3433409 HD
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...and Maria was shocked, SHOCKED to hear such an idea.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:25 | 3433428 insanelysane
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Maria just ran the NYC marathon in record time.  Too bad she did it by having Ben drive the taxi from start to finish.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 20:52 | 3433697 The Second Rule
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Maria's so punch drunk on CNBC Koolaid I doubt she even knows what network she's on.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:52 | 3433615 jcaz
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Ya, cause Zell has such a great history of showing his cards on national tv.....

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:22 | 3433410 Darth Raider
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"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the farce."

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:24 | 3433419 HD
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I'd change farce to fiat - but I'm with you.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:24 | 3433430 Bearwagon
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"The farce is strong with this one."

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:23 | 3433415 Sudden Debt
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A little bit of patina increases the value!!

oh yeah....


Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:00 | 3433675 EscapeKey
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In other news - bitcoins are back up to $195! Whee, this is one exciting rollercoaster.

Absolutely fascinating. This might very well be the only time one can study the progress of a real-time crash without getting all sorts of "out to help you" government institutions standing in the way.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:10 | 3433738 malikai
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It's awesome isn't it? I hope you're taking notes.

I sure am.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:24 | 3433417 DutchR
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Olivia Newton-John on BitCoin; http://youtu.be/vWz9VN40nCA

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:22 | 3433420 mdtrader
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FED has to be loving its work today. Gold & Bitcoin rinsed and stocks to the moon.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:25 | 3433438 Sudden Debt
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Makes you think he?
Nothing that really creates value holds strong.
every country with to many gold reserves goes down the shitter.

it's like they really want a total reset besides the elite's wealth...

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:29 | 3433459 DutchR
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"Nothing that really creates value holds strong."

To many humans?

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:38 | 3433506 roonbox
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Do both of you guys know the difference between 'to' and 'too'?

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:08 | 3433735 StarTedStackin'
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I'd be happy if most knew the difference between thEn and thAn............

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 17:37 | 3433874 AllThatGlitters
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As long as we are policing grammar...

"Should HAVE" or "Should'VE" as opposed to "Should OF."

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:02 | 3433977 IridiumRebel
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Kinda like GLD to Gold....

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:01 | 3433982 Miss Expectations
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So you know, English isn't everyone's first language.

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:24 | 3433421 Cdad
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Nice "market" wrap up...as always.  The stupidity of it all...simply breathtaking.  Would have added the continuing disaster of the JGB market.  Anyone know if Japan even plans to open that market tonight?

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:26 | 3433443 mdtrader
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I feel like there's a 1987 event coming. 

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:30 | 3433465 DutchR
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No NO, i dont want to lose my virginity again!!!!

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:37 | 3433509 HD
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Oh come on - it only takes a second...

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 16:46 | 3433572 camaro68ss
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just the tip then

Wed, 04/10/2013 - 18:05 | 3433996 Panafrican Funk...
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In real terms, it seems like we've been crashing since late '07.

In nominal terms, it's hard to say that we'll ever see an '87 again.  

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