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Bill Gross Is Angry

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The bond king is pissed:

No Bill, we are bothered too: we have been looking for the past 24 hours on the Fed's site for ways to subscribe to said early release distribution list and still can't find it. We even offered Kevin Henry $29.95 a month to add us to Fed's frontrunning newsletter and so far, nothing.

How are we to make 100% returns in the otherwise risk free market, if we too can't have market moving information days in advance of everyone else?

Mr. Bernanke, are you listening - it hinders the "wealth effect" by denying everyone material, market-moving information early!

Get to work Mr. Chairman.

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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:56 | 3436308 idea_hamster
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I guess he wasn't on the distro list -- too bad!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436326 hedgeless_horseman
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Circle of trust, Bill.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436331 Pladizow
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America: Dead Man Walking

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436352 Fredo Corleone
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Re: the Fed's Select Roster

Bill is angry simply because his name was not selected. All those billions in Treasurys on Pimco's books, and the Bond King does not even rate a lousy "QE[infiniti symbol]" tee-shirt.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436410 butchee
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That's what you get for shorting Uncle's Treasuries and talkin' your book.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3436426 Pool Shark
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It's a small, elite club.

And, you're not a member...


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:29 | 3436543 imaginalis
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He sounds like Pelosi complaining about insider trading

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:04 | 3436767 NoDebt
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He's just having his "Is NOTHING sacred?!?!" moment.  He was sure that somewhere in this giant financial system he could find somebody, some institution that could be at least marginally depended on to simply do their job in an honest and straightforward manner.  He just realized that there aren't any.  As in NONE.  ZERO.  Not even the Fed (which I am sure he held in high regard up to this point).

This an other stuff I have read from and about him recently tells me he's truly fed up (or Fed up!).  He's heading for the exit, I'm sure.  He's long since had fuck-you-money and he doesn't need this game any more.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:14 | 3436814 RockyRacoon
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If Bill had gotten his early email like the others, we would have heard nary a peep from him.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:17 | 3437158 HoofHearted
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It was for the children. We wanted to make sure none of OUR children had to do without the new pony this summer, so we allowed our buddies to frontrun. 

Seriously, you want to vote against kids? Then you are screwed...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:28 | 3437206 ml8ml8
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It's makes me nervous when someone with over US$2 trillion assets under management becomes publicly upset at the primary financial institution in the world and basically says "I'll get even with you later."  It may be time to get long volatility of short-term bonds.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 14:50 | 3437600 smlbizman
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i do remember hating this guy gross, when he was making it hand over fist because of the feds actions....on cnbs like he was a fucking genius, ...i had him as a fed inside guy....so now he is not in the inner circle and he doesnt like it....i am sure though his charactor is such that if they put him on the list to receive this info early he would decline ....

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:27 | 3436903 deus x machina
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 george carlin said it perfectly



Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:17 | 3436427 Pool Shark
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436434 pods
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We are supposed to be outraged at what we all know?

It's a big fuckin club, and we ain't in it.

Bill is pissed just cause his ass was left off the list this time.  

More tongue and less teeth next time Bill and you will be fine.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:45 | 3437002 Anusocracy
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When monarchies were dominant it was a big fuckin club, but the masses knew they weren't a part of it. That made them more likely to revolt.

Now that we have democracy it is still a big fuckin club, but the current masses are too stupid to understand that they aren't members.

If government screwed the people every way possible, 90% would still support it.



Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:26 | 3438956 StychoKiller
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And so, here we are!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436437 redpill
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I guess we know which e-mail list Bill ISN'T on.  The question is whether he's really outraged or just butthurt that the bond king is not in the club.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:23 | 3438949 StychoKiller
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To Bill:  "How about a Spiderman towel?  Would that make ya feel better?"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:07 | 3436373 MillionDollarBonus_
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I would be very agnry too if I were Bill Gross. After investing millions of dollars of his clients' money shorting treasuries, only to see record low yields, Bill Gross is struggling to accept his shortcomings as an investor and the embarrasment of his association with the doomer libertarian community.  

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436388 Blano
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How's Herbalife these days?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:12 | 3436412 malikai
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..or Facebook.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:14 | 3436428 MillionDollarBonus_
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Things are moving along. I'm now focused on signing up as many distributors as possible. I've realized that the BIG money is in signing up smart motivated sellers, rather than selling the product yourself. That's the key. I've signed up three friends, and I'm hoping they'll start selling soon so I can generate some serious income.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:18 | 3436470 McMolotov
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That's the same business plan I use for my heroin and crystal meth enterprise.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:48 | 3436689 RopeADope
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Works well for a fiat printer too.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:21 | 3436485 King_Julian
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MDB, +1 for the LOL. Doing good work. Keep it up!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436503 azzhatter
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MDB doing God's work just like Blankfuck. Good man

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436507 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah yes, OPM and Other People's Efforts (OPE). Capitalists live off one, Aristocrats off the other.

But fear not and take solace in W.C. Fields' motto: "There's a sucker born every minute."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436508 j0nx
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Boris has eclipsed you as best ZH troll. You need to work on your game.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:15 | 3436831 rqb1
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I agree, you have lost a step MDB.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436515 Impoverished Ps...
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This is all so last month...

I'm currently looking for capital for a multi level marketing operation which works within a cryptocurrency system - I'm going to call it TUPPERCOIN or BITWARE - suggestions welcome.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:58 | 3436735 RichardENixon
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BUBBLEBUX. Sounds so much catchier than FRNS.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:36 | 3436959 Thisson
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How about "GroupCoin"?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 14:38 | 3437543 zapdude
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:39 | 3436619 MrNude
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''I've realized that the BIG money is in signing up smart motivated sellers, rather than selling the product yourself. That's the key.''


Careful now, look at where Madoff ended up after those kinds of pyramid scams ;p.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:10 | 3436803 Doctor of Reality
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Sounds like an Amway convention is in your future.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:24 | 3436877 ATM
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Sounds more like she is into the 'Women Empowering Women' pyramid.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:20 | 3437176 HoofHearted
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"sistas are doin it for themselves" probably using an Obamaphone to make it happen...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436407 TheSilverJournal
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It's true, Gross and the bond shorters don't understand the predicament. The Fed has the ability to create unlimited FRNs. The only way the world fiat monetary ponzi stays intact is buy keeping rates moving even lower. In other words, the Fed can and will buy whatever amount of bonds it takes to keep rates low...straight into hyperinflation. As they say...don't fight the Fed.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:20 | 3436486 azzhatter
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Bill G thanks you for your advice and explanation of the bond market

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:10 | 3436805 indygo55
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MDB you missed the point. He is complaining about the list. The list, the list. Get it? THE LIST!


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:10 | 3436395 eclectic syncretist
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SON OF A BEEOTCH SHALOM BERNANKE.  You were so busy printing your notes like Mohammed Atta in the cockpit of a fully fueled 767 you went and let the secret FED insider list out? 

I hope that hot russian woman on the side of my screen kicks you square up in the nuts with emphasis, and when you ask, "what was that for?", she says, "you know what that was for, you little bitch!".

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:12 | 3436415 Divided States ...
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Reminds me of Madoff, Jews shafting Jews now.....I take this as a good thing...because you know things are really going to hit the fan when the said 'Circle' is getting smaller and smaller and some of the people who used to be IN THE CIRCLE...is out....

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436585 Kirk2NCC1701
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I think that the Luciferian school of thought would say that their god looks after his inner circle first, and they'd sacrifice their brethren in the outer circle if need be. If you believe that sort if stuff. Which I don't, but which entertains me like one of those Hollywood trash flicks.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436444 aleph0
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WMD backwards

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:03 | 3436347 Stoploss
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I know the feeling Bill.

We just slide this one right under the " not monetizing"  video recording.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436391 outamyeffinway
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Well Bill, it's because everyone recognizes that the system is so corrupt and rotten to the core that we've thrown our hands up.


Now we just wait for the economic and societal collapse. Then the witch hunt.


Those who are truly indifferent are the ignorant and morally bankrupt.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:21 | 3437181 torak
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"Now we just wait for the economic and societal collapse. Then the witch hunt."

I wonder what the 21st Century equivalent to guillotines are?  I'm thinking .40 cal hollow-point bullets, errr aahh, I mean target rounds bought in bulk to get a better price.  One to the back of the head Chinese style and make the terrorist's (Vet, Christian, Prepper, etc.) family pay the government back for the expense of the bullet.

Hold on!  I think we're coming around full circle.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:07 | 3436372 prains
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dead man walking

obesity rates just came in, hold off on the walking, for now just trying standing up from electric buggy for 5 minutes a day

<safety first>

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436383 DaveyJones
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