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Bill Gross Is Angry

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The bond king is pissed:

No Bill, we are bothered too: we have been looking for the past 24 hours on the Fed's site for ways to subscribe to said early release distribution list and still can't find it. We even offered Kevin Henry $29.95 a month to add us to Fed's frontrunning newsletter and so far, nothing.

How are we to make 100% returns in the otherwise risk free market, if we too can't have market moving information days in advance of everyone else?

Mr. Bernanke, are you listening - it hinders the "wealth effect" by denying everyone material, market-moving information early!

Get to work Mr. Chairman.


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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:56 | 3436308 idea_hamster
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I guess he wasn't on the distro list -- too bad!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436326 hedgeless_horseman
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Circle of trust, Bill.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436331 Pladizow
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America: Dead Man Walking

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436352 Fredo Corleone
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Re: the Fed's Select Roster

Bill is angry simply because his name was not selected. All those billions in Treasurys on Pimco's books, and the Bond King does not even rate a lousy "QE[infiniti symbol]" tee-shirt.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436410 butchee
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That's what you get for shorting Uncle's Treasuries and talkin' your book.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3436426 Pool Shark
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It's a small, elite club.

And, you're not a member...


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:29 | 3436543 imaginalis
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He sounds like Pelosi complaining about insider trading

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:04 | 3436767 NoDebt
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He's just having his "Is NOTHING sacred?!?!" moment.  He was sure that somewhere in this giant financial system he could find somebody, some institution that could be at least marginally depended on to simply do their job in an honest and straightforward manner.  He just realized that there aren't any.  As in NONE.  ZERO.  Not even the Fed (which I am sure he held in high regard up to this point).

This an other stuff I have read from and about him recently tells me he's truly fed up (or Fed up!).  He's heading for the exit, I'm sure.  He's long since had fuck-you-money and he doesn't need this game any more.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:14 | 3436814 RockyRacoon
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If Bill had gotten his early email like the others, we would have heard nary a peep from him.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:17 | 3437158 HoofHearted
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It was for the children. We wanted to make sure none of OUR children had to do without the new pony this summer, so we allowed our buddies to frontrun. 

Seriously, you want to vote against kids? Then you are screwed...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:28 | 3437206 ml8ml8
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It's makes me nervous when someone with over US$2 trillion assets under management becomes publicly upset at the primary financial institution in the world and basically says "I'll get even with you later."  It may be time to get long volatility of short-term bonds.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 14:50 | 3437600 smlbizman
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i do remember hating this guy gross, when he was making it hand over fist because of the feds actions....on cnbs like he was a fucking genius, ...i had him as a fed inside now he is not in the inner circle and he doesnt like it....i am sure though his charactor is such that if they put him on the list to receive this info early he would decline ....

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:27 | 3436903 deus x machina
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 george carlin said it perfectly

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:17 | 3436427 Pool Shark
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436434 pods
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We are supposed to be outraged at what we all know?

It's a big fuckin club, and we ain't in it.

Bill is pissed just cause his ass was left off the list this time.  

More tongue and less teeth next time Bill and you will be fine.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:45 | 3437002 Anusocracy
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When monarchies were dominant it was a big fuckin club, but the masses knew they weren't a part of it. That made them more likely to revolt.

Now that we have democracy it is still a big fuckin club, but the current masses are too stupid to understand that they aren't members.

If government screwed the people every way possible, 90% would still support it.



Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:26 | 3438956 StychoKiller
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And so, here we are!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436437 redpill
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I guess we know which e-mail list Bill ISN'T on.  The question is whether he's really outraged or just butthurt that the bond king is not in the club.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:23 | 3438949 StychoKiller
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To Bill:  "How about a Spiderman towel?  Would that make ya feel better?"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:07 | 3436373 MillionDollarBonus_
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I would be very agnry too if I were Bill Gross. After investing millions of dollars of his clients' money shorting treasuries, only to see record low yields, Bill Gross is struggling to accept his shortcomings as an investor and the embarrasment of his association with the doomer libertarian community.  

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436388 Blano
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How's Herbalife these days?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:12 | 3436412 malikai
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..or Facebook.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:14 | 3436428 MillionDollarBonus_
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Things are moving along. I'm now focused on signing up as many distributors as possible. I've realized that the BIG money is in signing up smart motivated sellers, rather than selling the product yourself. That's the key. I've signed up three friends, and I'm hoping they'll start selling soon so I can generate some serious income.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:18 | 3436470 McMolotov
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That's the same business plan I use for my heroin and crystal meth enterprise.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:48 | 3436689 RopeADope
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Works well for a fiat printer too.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:21 | 3436485 King_Julian
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MDB, +1 for the LOL. Doing good work. Keep it up!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436503 azzhatter
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MDB doing God's work just like Blankfuck. Good man

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436507 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah yes, OPM and Other People's Efforts (OPE). Capitalists live off one, Aristocrats off the other.

But fear not and take solace in W.C. Fields' motto: "There's a sucker born every minute."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:25 | 3436508 j0nx
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Boris has eclipsed you as best ZH troll. You need to work on your game.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:15 | 3436831 rqb1
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I agree, you have lost a step MDB.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436515 Impoverished Ps...
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This is all so last month...

I'm currently looking for capital for a multi level marketing operation which works within a cryptocurrency system - I'm going to call it TUPPERCOIN or BITWARE - suggestions welcome.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:58 | 3436735 RichardENixon
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BUBBLEBUX. Sounds so much catchier than FRNS.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:36 | 3436959 Thisson
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How about "GroupCoin"?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 14:38 | 3437543 zapdude
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:39 | 3436619 MrNude
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''I've realized that the BIG money is in signing up smart motivated sellers, rather than selling the product yourself. That's the key.''


Careful now, look at where Madoff ended up after those kinds of pyramid scams ;p.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:10 | 3436803 Doctor of Reality
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Sounds like an Amway convention is in your future.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:24 | 3436877 ATM
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Sounds more like she is into the 'Women Empowering Women' pyramid.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:20 | 3437176 HoofHearted
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"sistas are doin it for themselves" probably using an Obamaphone to make it happen...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436407 TheSilverJournal
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It's true, Gross and the bond shorters don't understand the predicament. The Fed has the ability to create unlimited FRNs. The only way the world fiat monetary ponzi stays intact is buy keeping rates moving even lower. In other words, the Fed can and will buy whatever amount of bonds it takes to keep rates low...straight into hyperinflation. As they say...don't fight the Fed.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:20 | 3436486 azzhatter
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Bill G thanks you for your advice and explanation of the bond market

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:10 | 3436805 indygo55
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MDB you missed the point. He is complaining about the list. The list, the list. Get it? THE LIST!


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:10 | 3436395 eclectic syncretist
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SON OF A BEEOTCH SHALOM BERNANKE.  You were so busy printing your notes like Mohammed Atta in the cockpit of a fully fueled 767 you went and let the secret FED insider list out? 

I hope that hot russian woman on the side of my screen kicks you square up in the nuts with emphasis, and when you ask, "what was that for?", she says, "you know what that was for, you little bitch!".

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:12 | 3436415 Divided States ...
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Reminds me of Madoff, Jews shafting Jews now.....I take this as a good thing...because you know things are really going to hit the fan when the said 'Circle' is getting smaller and smaller and some of the people who used to be IN THE out....

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436585 Kirk2NCC1701
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I think that the Luciferian school of thought would say that their god looks after his inner circle first, and they'd sacrifice their brethren in the outer circle if need be. If you believe that sort if stuff. Which I don't, but which entertains me like one of those Hollywood trash flicks.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436444 aleph0
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WMD backwards

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:03 | 3436347 Stoploss
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I know the feeling Bill.

We just slide this one right under the " not monetizing"  video recording.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436391 outamyeffinway
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Well Bill, it's because everyone recognizes that the system is so corrupt and rotten to the core that we've thrown our hands up.


Now we just wait for the economic and societal collapse. Then the witch hunt.


Those who are truly indifferent are the ignorant and morally bankrupt.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:21 | 3437181 torak
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"Now we just wait for the economic and societal collapse. Then the witch hunt."

I wonder what the 21st Century equivalent to guillotines are?  I'm thinking .40 cal hollow-point bullets, errr aahh, I mean target rounds bought in bulk to get a better price.  One to the back of the head Chinese style and make the terrorist's (Vet, Christian, Prepper, etc.) family pay the government back for the expense of the bullet.

Hold on!  I think we're coming around full circle.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:07 | 3436372 prains
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dead man walking

obesity rates just came in, hold off on the walking, for now just trying standing up from electric buggy for 5 minutes a day

<safety first>

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436383 DaveyJones
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436397 McMolotov
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"Dead man rolling on Hoveround/Rascal."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 14:43 | 3437565 zapdude
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I'm partial to the "Jazzy Scooter" myself.  Has a nice, snappy ring to the name. 

Waaay better than those clunkers plugged inside of Wal-Mart.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436385 kliguy38
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Fuck off Bill......YOU AIN'T IN THE CLUB! 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:41 | 3436620 Kirk2NCC1701
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Wizard Bill, the Dark Lord does not forgive (easily) or forget. Now you'll just have to work for headmaster Tumble D'Or. ;-)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:54 | 3436703 BLOTTO
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Not to mention - those that might *think* they are in 'the club' - are infact not...they just think they are. And the real members are just using their well paid minions like pieces of shit to spread the agenda and thats why those minions are fucked up...

i.e., your Jay-Z's, Beyonnce's, entertainers and other wealthy celebs, musicians, etc...


Paid, used, scum lapdogs that are willing for the money to spread filth and perversions...and are sometimes snuffed out in the end when 'they' are done using you.

Thats what evil is - dysfunctional fucks.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:02 | 3436753 outamyeffinway
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Bill was kicked out of the club when he shorted T-bills and dared mention that the public should own gold. What WAS he thinking?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:36 | 3436969 shovelhead
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You can get paid for spreading filth and perversions?

I've been doing it for free...What a dummy.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:12 | 3437141 torak
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In a Fascist state, you're either in or you're out.

Sorry Bill.  Billionaire or not, you're out here with the rest of the useless eaters.  Can I pop ya a can of Bud?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:37 | 3436587 Alpo for Granny
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WOW!! Schiff seems pissed here too. I have never heard him talk about metals manipulation, call out individual banks aka Goldman, and saying they are betting against their muppets, their "cozy" realtionship with the Fed. etc. And craziest of disagreement from the CNBC host and their other guest.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:47 | 3436673 Kirk2NCC1701
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Hmm, that's odd... You'd think that the BTFD stackers would be buying up his 50 gram gold cards, and make him happy.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 14:20 | 3437461 slaughterer
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Dear Tyler:


ZH vastly underestimates the political capital that the American leaders have placed in the Fed.  There is no plan B.  There is only plan A: the Fed. 



Dr. Bernanke

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:57 | 3436314 WillyGroper
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FM - Get in line.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:57 | 3436317 Stuart
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spitting in the wind.  What's anybody gonna do about it!  

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436594 Pure Evil
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Learn a lesson, and don't start pissing into the wind.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436318 Dr. Engali
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It seems Bill is mad that he can't get back in the club even though he turned bullish on gubbermint debt trying to curry favor.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436403 DaveyJones
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no, curry is good for Alzheimers

(you don't want them to remember)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:22 | 3436490 disabledvet
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"that's called being spot on." Governments aren't into that stuff...per se. I would argue military's are of course. This is all about "of the banker, by the banker, for the banker." Can't explain it of course...or should I say "can't explain it in a way that makes sense"? Anywho "no good deed goes unpunished." the snake charmers of Wall Street "have their man" ... I never bothered trying to fight it it and played this collapse "from the long side" as a consequence. And still am actually. I feel like "the easy money has been made" in the equity space...but these are the pro's now...they've pushed this thing another ten percent higher "on the miraculous recovery news" of course. (what did the Third Reich call them? "Wunder veapons?") and in the meantime "those shorting treasuries have just been crushed." that strikes me as something bigger than what any bank "can do." but what do I know...I'm just some guy who thinks "blowing up the planet" as was done in 2008..."is just a bad idea to begin with."

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:57 | 3436320 autofixer
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I posted to my Facebook page the leak and the lists and all I got was that sheep in the headlight look from my compadres.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:03 | 3436353 alphamentalist
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The illiterati can't be bothered with banana-fication of our republic. Pointing this stuff out just pisses most of them off. Like you are a jerk for suggeting all is not well.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:18 | 3436451 hedgeless_horseman
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The illiterati can't be bothered...


Same as it ever was...

“The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests.”
—The Rothschild brothers of London

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:48 | 3436678 BLOTTO
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Exactly Alpha and Auto...


Its a slippery slope spreading info to the commoners - it makes them feel uncomfortable.

I had to delete a couple of fucktards - not so much because they debated/argued, but, because they were being disrespectful and insulting.


Almost have to take baby steps with them (masses/commoners)...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:53 | 3436697 IamtheREALmario
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For those not corrupted by the system the key is not to care about the system. It is no burden to bear if one bears it willingly and withough malice or envy.

The so called "Rothschilds" (or whatever modern day equivalent) who most likely represent a much more perverse power think they have won. But they have won nothing because to win they must have taken through challenge or force something that someone else wants. The ancient writings say that their/his time is running short. The last 2000 years are coming to an end

If you do not want it, then they have won nothing. Children will still dance and play in the streets and mothers and fathers will still hold each other for comfort and strength. They are trying very hard to destroy these things through the theft of children for the state and the perversion of the family, but they are so far from winning that they cannot even see the start of the path to the goal line from here.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:03 | 3436358 toys for tits
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Since you're the only person on Facebook to do that, your anonymity is shot.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436400 saints51
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The best way to gather information is let them volunteer(facebook,twitter,etc) information. It works every time.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436390 Doctor of Reality
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I tried from 2009, to late last year, to wake people up on FB. I found the ones who are awake, already know something's amiss... Most of the sheeple can sense something's wrong, but they remain unconscious due to the normalcy bias. This will end badly for many.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:30 | 3436544 Winston Churchill
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There will be many happy undertakers, if they survive.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:31 | 3436560 King_Julian
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I've started stocking extra ammo so the sheeple can self-terminate when this sheet blows up. Many have said to me they would rather die than have to deal with a collapse. It seems like a friendly thing to do. I've tried the other way but they cannot handle it. Blue pill must taste better.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:35 | 3436588 Winston Churchill
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Strange that, my daughter and I were discussing the neighbors this

AM ,and what will happen when SHTF.

Se suggested putting a couple out of their misery at once.

Women are hard.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:10 | 3436791 Ying-Yang
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Maybe there will be an App for that..(sarc)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:00 | 3436728 Kirk2NCC1701
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No doubt. But, unlike most, I see Chaos as only one of 4 possible outcomes to the Big Reset. Re-anchoring to gold is another. The third is a basket of global currencies (probably gold-backed), and the fourth may be the worst of all: A global fiat currency -- IMF's SDR -- One Coin To Rule Them All.

I'm hoping for #3 or #2, and shudder at the other two.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:16 | 3436835 Doctor of Reality
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I agree with your analysis. But I'm afraid the masses won't accept austerity. Right now, they get their GMO-cake for free. What happens when they're forced to dig holes and fill them up for crumbs?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436401 Blano
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Learn from my're just wasting your time.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436460 mckee
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Should have posted it with happy text and a kitten in the background

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:11 | 3436800 resurger
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:57 | 3436321 Zen Bernanke
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Sadly this behavior is business as usual from now on.  Get used to it. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436322 madbraz
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Thank God Obama is meeting with the banksters today to discuss this gravest criminal act.  Oh, wait a second, he is just meeting with his friends to talk about "cyber security".


What a f... joke this country is.  

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436447 saints51
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Obama will let Bill Gross be his personal food tester for the day.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:06 | 3436776 Kirk2NCC1701
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Not so much a Joke as a cosmic Tragedy: the country that invented nukes, has more WMDs than all others combined, that invented cyber space and cyber weapons, and Ponzi schemes, is now worried about these very things. How ironic, Mr. President!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436324 WTF_247
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He is not one of the chosen "helpers" and posts critical comments about the administration.  No Soup for You!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436325 Ivanovich
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We can be angry that there IS a list, but to delude ourselves into believing there wasn't a list all along is just that ....delusional.  We all knew this was there before. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:11 | 3436404 ExpendableOne
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Used to be a private fax list....  Perhaps if you write to your favorite congresscritter they can forward the list to you as part of their constituant services / outreach program.

Might cost you a couple 1K chicken dinners though.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:22 | 3436495 optimator
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And an audit.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436449 gunsmoke011
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Exactly - they just got exposed this time. this racket has been a fixed game for as long as the market has existed - it is only that it is so in your face these days and it is now proven that even if you do get caught - there are no consequences -- just endless  "Investigations" untill all is forgotten.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436329 whisperin
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The question Bill is that now that everyone knows about the secret list how many advance releases have there been that were not known?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436330 Ham-bone
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As long as we're discussing the Fed, there are a couple of further issues that also perturb me.  Oh well.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:58 | 3436332 ThisIsBob
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I noted yesterday that there would likely be some people pissed off because they didn't make the Fed's "preferred customer" list.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3436572 ThisIsBob
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Ah, two downvotes.  Likely one from Ben, one from Bill.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436333 Waterfallsparkles
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I think they released it early on purpose.  That was so that the Banks could prepare to ramp the Market ahead of what could have tanked the Market.  With the Fed fazing out QE3 the Market would have tanked heavly.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:48 | 3437013 Ned Zeppelin
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Phasing out? Are you kidding? There will be no phasing out of QE unless it is replaced by another QE.  Is there anyone left who does not understand this?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436334 onewayticket2
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excellent point, TD.

the "wealth effect" only works if more than 100 people across the USA participate in said "wealth effect"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 10:59 | 3436336 Cdad
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Put me down as angry...most definitely so.  Enough of this Federal Reserve "Bank" bullshit, already.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:05 | 3436366 gamera9
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You are at leverl 3 Bargaining up next

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:05 | 3436367 gamera9
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You are at leverl 3 Bargaining up next

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:01 | 3436338 gjp
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It shouldn't bother anyone.  Insider information on the Fed is useless because everyone knows what they are going to do: print until everything explodes.  And then print some more.

Fed jawboning is irrelevant.  Everyone knows the score.  Of course they are corrupt and serving their cronies, but we're better to focus on the illegality of the very enterprise than disclosure processes of their idiotic meetings.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:01 | 3436339 kato
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now that he is not an insider (whatever got you blackballed?) it is as if Bill himself is back from the Inner Station saying: “I found myself back in the sepulchral city resenting the sight of people [bankers] hurrying through the streets [to the Fed] to filch a little money from each other…”

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436340 Waterfallsparkles
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The question is how much else do they leak accidentially on purpose?


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436341 Lost Wages
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I have a feeling Bill used to subscribe, then got kicked off the list.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436351 El Hosel
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Massive Corruption at the highest levels of Industry and Government is no secret, its a NON EVENT.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:48 | 3436688 Pure Evil
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Maybe his fax got lost in the ether. Either that or the monkey sending out the faxes that day had a fat finger and the list went to someones iPhone as a text.

A little lesson is in order, next time you don't get the fax, instead of getting emotional like a little panty waist, call over at the Eccles building, expect to pucker up a lot, and see if kissing a little butt smothes things over.

If not you can always drop a wad of cash into Obama's Hawaiian House Retirement fund to get back into good graces with the ChairSatan.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:01 | 3436343 pan
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I am not in the clique!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:00 | 3436344 ziggy59
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I take it Bill Gross wasnt on the list?

Is he upset that a list was sent or that he wasnt on it?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:04 | 3436350 mdtrader
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SPX now almost 4% higher than Friday's NFP low.  4% in 4 days on no news.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:05 | 3436357 q99x2
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And on another note of irrational exuberance:

Market Cooldown for 12 hours

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posted this on Apr 11 23:33

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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:05 | 3436360 nbsharma
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No one who got the list early is angry. Weird.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:04 | 3436361 Oquities
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idea for Bernanke

1.  drive rates up to 5% on the ten-year

2.  print and buy all bonds for 50 cents/dollar

3.  drive rates back down

4.  take profits, exit strategy complete

5.  save social security with ensuing increase in suicides due to lost savings

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:11 | 3436418 mdtrader
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The minute Bernanke sells any bonds the bond market crashes. The only reason anybody buys bonds at these price is because Bernanke is buying. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:14 | 3436440 Ignatius
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Nice resume.  Expect job offers to start poring in....

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:05 | 3436362 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Anger is an energy.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:07 | 3436380 ziggy59
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Anger is one letter short of dANGER

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:11 | 3436402 TeamDepends
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Rules and Regulations!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3436442 ExpendableOne
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"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:14 | 3436816 Kirk2NCC1701
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Suffering builds character. Yoda is overrated.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:06 | 3436374 Fix-ItSilly
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I don't think Bernanke will settle for $29.95/mo.  Ask his Chief of Staff, Sec'y Lew for the going rate. As a point of reference, the KPMG auditor required $25,000 of his golf buddy for insider info on only 2 companies. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:07 | 3436375 ziggy59
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Ahhh..Lew Spews forth words of wisdom..

US Treasury's Lew says US economic recovery remains fragile

"Fragile"? No..fragile is what one posts on a package with delicate stuff..the US economy and the people that are fixing (riiiiight) it, friggin broken!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436386 Ironmaan
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Bernanke is a criminal. He is a fucking thief, as are his colleagues. When the shit finally hits the fan, my hope is that a large mob visits them all at their homes and gives him the same treatment Mussolini received. They all fucking sicken me.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:10 | 3436405 dcohen
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Pulp Fiction cellar, that is the only way Bernanke may be humbled.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:13 | 3436421 Ironmaan
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"Bring in the Gimp"

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:55 | 3437317 patriot63
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naw man.....I'm pretty fuckin' far from Okay!


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:42 | 3436992 Rory_Breaker
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Time to get medieval on his ass

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436387 Ironmaan
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Bernanke is a criminal. He is a fucking thief, as are his colleagues. When the shit finally hits the fan, my hope is that a large mob visits them all at their homes and gives him the same treatment Mussolini received. They all fucking sicken me.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436389 Shizzmoney
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PIMCO is just butt hurt because they weren't on the list.

They'll sell this country down the river when SHTF.  Fuck these assholes.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:09 | 3436392 dcohen
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What a fucked up country the US has become

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:10 | 3436409 They Tried to S...
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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:12 | 3436414 diogeneslaertius
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ah doi

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:11 | 3436416 Bryan
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It's like everyone knows there's corruption, so nobody cares any more.  I guess they figure the SEC will take care of it (or not).

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:12 | 3436419 ziggy59
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Huh? Chain store sales rise modestly as jobs, weather weigh

In first sentence after headline..

(Reuters) - Several top retailers, including Costco Wholesale Corp and T.J. Maxx parent TJX Cos Inc, reported weaker-than-expected March sales as cold weather and lingering concerns about the job market chilled shoppers' enthusiasm.


Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436446 ITrustMyGut
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algos dont read content.. only headlines.. thus ^

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:53 | 3437042 Shizzmoney
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I love how Reuters always leads off with positive headers.....and then as you sift through the article, the truth comes out.  It's as if they KNOW the majority of people don't read the entire thing.

BTW, really bad sign if Costco sales are dropping.  This is the main shopping center for the middle class (what is left of it in the USA), mostly because you have to pay a yearly fee for a subscription (for those serfs who can't, there's Wal-Mart and the Dollar Tree).

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 13:20 | 3437180 Notarocketscientist
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Only Reuters?  Thats the formula for all msm

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:14 | 3436425 Bearwagon
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A scene from "Catch 22" comes to mind: (the shooter of the plane has died.)

Milo Minderbinder: "He wasn't a poor man. He had shares in the company."

Yossarian: "He's dead now!"

Milo: "So we'll send his shares to his relatives."

Yossarian: "He didn't have a family of his own."

Milo: "We'll give the shares to his parents, then."

Yossarian: "They won't need it. They're rich."

Milo:"If they're rich - they will understand."

(likewise, it's only from memory)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3436430 q99x2
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I've been trying to get someone to arrest Bernanke for over a year Bill. If you would like to step up this effort it would be greatly appreciated.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:24 | 3436505 Bearwagon
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If you want something done - do it yourself.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3436432 kahunabear
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Being a member of the politburo has its benefits.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:15 | 3436436 wagthetails
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never give up on referencing kevin Henry...still one of the funniest topics on ZH to date. 

it is amazing that even the media is ignoring Gross on this.  I guess there was a follow up email to the early discolure list that included a plan to squash this leak. 

how did crony capitalism get worse under Obama? 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:29 | 3436536 css1971
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how did crony capitalism get worse under Obama?

Does it really matter which puppet is in front of the teleprompter?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:16 | 3436459 Debtless
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Count me in when the shootin' starts.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:17 | 3436467 tradewithdave
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Shock and awe. Insiders get preferential treatment. The government cannot be trusted. Eric Holder won't prosecute systemically important financial institutions due to Breuerian ripple effects. 90 year old judges sign off on metals manipulation because the JPM had no incentive to manipulate. Corzine launches hedge fund. Stevie Cohen buys a painting. Bill Gross buys a multi million dollar house for the sole purpose of tearing it down and gives up his Twitter rant without a fight.

Show me something more interesting like confiscation of bank accounts. We need a stronger drug than mere illegal insider trading to maintain our MSNBC "no child left off Ritalin" collective community attention deficit.

Next please..,

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:10 | 3436790 strayaway
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RE: "Show me something more interesting like confiscation of bank accounts. We need a stronger drug than mere illegal insider trading to maintain our MSNBC "no child left off Ritalin" collective community attention deficit."

Last summer, a court  "extended" Phizers's monopoly on Viagra from 2012 through 2019.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 12:18 | 3436851 Kirk2NCC1701
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Three thumbs waaay up for Pfizer?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 11:18 | 3436472 StarTedStackin'
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The Obowel Movement strikes again!



yep, both parties are the same, and a vote for Ron Paul was not a vote for Obowel.......uh huh.........yep.........the media says so and the sheeple baaaaa in agreement.

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