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The True Chinese Credit Bubble: 240% Of GDP And Soaring

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Several months ago we pointed out something not fully grasped by the broader public: the Chinese corporate debt bubble is the largest of any developed and developing country, and at 151% of GDP (and rising rapidly) is the biggest in the world. What is better known is that corporate debt is just one part of the total debt picture, which also includes consumer loans, government debt and other "shadow debt" credit in the case of China. So how does China's true debt picture as a percentage of debt look? As the chart below from Goldman shows, in 2013 the total credit outstanding in China is expected to rise to a whopping 240% of GDP, and continue rising from there at an ever faster pace.

What is even more concerning is that in order to maintain its breakneck economic "growth" of ~8% per year, China has to continue injecting massive amounts of debt, the so called "credit impulse" or "flow" which according to assorted views, is what is the true driver of an economy, and where GDP growth is merely a reflection of how much credit is entering (or leaving) the system.

The chart below shows that total Chinese social financing flow just hit a record for the month of March.

Completing the picture is the estimated economic response to a surge in credit. As the last chart shows, in China the biggest benefit to a surge in flow is felt in the quarter immediately following the credit injection, as one would expect, with the effect tapering off and even going negative in future quarters, thus requiring even more debt creation to offset the adverse impacts of prior such injections.

What should become obvious is that in order to maintain its unprecedented (if declining) growth rate, China has to inject ever greater amounts of credit into its economy, amounts which will push its total credit pile ever higher into the stratosphere, until one day it pulls a Europe and finds itself in a situation where there are no further encumberable assets (for secured loans), and where ever-deteriorating cash flows are no longer sufficient to satisfy the interest payments on unsecured debt, leading to what the Chinese government has been desperate to avoid: mass corporate defaults.

At that point it will be up to the PBOC to do what the Fed, the ECB, the BOE and the BOJ have been doing: remove any pretense of money creation via the commercial bank complex (even if these are merely glorified government-controlled entities), and proceed to outright monetization of de novo created assets, thus flooding the system with as much money as is needed to preserve the illusion of growth. Naturally, with the Chinese stock market having proven itself to be a horrible inflation trap (and as a result the bulk of new levered money creation goes into real estate), the inflation explosion that would result would be epic.

At that point the chart of the price of gold (in any currency) due to on the ground demand for capital preservation will make the Bitcoin chart pre-bubble pop, seem outright flat.

 


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Thu, 04/11/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment Ethics Gradient
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Gold, Bitchez?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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No need. Uncle Ben will buy their Rice Bonds.

 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 15:59 | Link to Comment whisperin
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Yowza!! No wonder they are trying to get all that gold before the yuan goes poof!!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment adr
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THE ANSWER TO TOO MUCH CREDIT IS EVEN MOAR CREDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Krugman says so.

and Bernanke

and Obama

and ....

 

Can I get a fuck Keynesianism?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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It's beyond Keynesianism at this point. It's now Unicornianism.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:37 | Link to Comment akak
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The eternal blobbing-up duplicitous nature of Communist 'chinese' parangongs of 'chinese' Unicornianism is very much something, conflatulating this with that in the mattering thing.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment malikai
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Damnit. Reading that gave me twitches.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 23:17 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Killing a Unicorn actually keeps the economy moving.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment bnbdnb
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World would no like at all with China credit bust.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Praetorian Guard
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Speaking of the US. Celente is having a fucking meltdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=s6FnQB-GC7c

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:08 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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unhappy man

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment rlouis
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Thanks, Gerald, nice to hear some reality based riteous moral indignation.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment ImReady
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Fat Booooyy!!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment screw face
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Hey did you see, he has a frick'en red bottom, Woooh Jah

+1

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:03 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Of course the chinese people owe this debt to themselves and not a private bank called the Federal Reserve.  Big fucking difference.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:17 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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Sure LoP, but neither debt will be repaid, so....same-same, right?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:21 | Link to Comment centerline
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I would think the newly developed middle class and rich in China are scared shitless - knowing they very well could get pounded right back into the villages they came from.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:24 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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define "repaid".  I'd argue many are already "paying" for this idiocracy in both countries.  But yes, technically there isn't enough collateral or GDP on earth (at least with the current valuation of several assets - but "mark to fantasy" accounting is another problem altogether).

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment centerline
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The ultimate payment is going to be lives.  I know that you know that too.  Just saying.  That is awfully serious collateral.

No way out really.  A long or a short unwind just shifts the demographic of who is getting screwed the worst.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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"The ultimate payment is going to be lives."

Too right, just ask Greeks who can't afford medicines.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Bam_Man
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What could possibly go wrong?

And if anything does, the PBOC will "fix" it by printing electronic money.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:10 | Link to Comment rlouis
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How in the heck do you eat an imaginary iPad?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment stocktivity
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Yeah, yeah , yeah...blah blah blah...meanwhile another all time record on the dow and s&p.  Until Benny stops the printing, It's all Bullshit!!!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Ban KKiller
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The only country more corrupt then the USA, is China? Banks in both countries are overstating their alleged assets, particulary real estate. Instead of charging off bad real estate debt both countries "roll over" massive amounts of defaulted loans in an attempt to keep the lies going. The problem looming for both countries is, who can they sell their total shit to now? Oh yeah, Spain, Portugal, etc. Har-har. The Chinese know this is a  problem and are getting out of dollars as a trade. See how they trade directly with Austrailia now, with out dollars? Oh...and are they still buying all the gold they can and exporting NONE? Yep. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment darteaus
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If I lived for 3 generations in a Commie country, and suddenly it was OK to get rich, I'd be grabbing with both hands because having money can just as suddenly become a crime for another 3 generations.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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It's fully backed by gold, or live-stock.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment LFMayor
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Uh, so solly.  All them fuckin hogs done died and then got deep sixed in the Huangpu river.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:13 | Link to Comment Crabshacker
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Don't know if this is relavent, but awhile back I posted how the Chinese suddenly stopped buying Dungeness crab as a lux....Just read a memo from A major fisheries processor that states that the Chinese .gov has ordered a stop to lux. spending and goes on to say that lux. hotels and restr. have seen a 20-25% decline in rev. on my android maybe I'll post the entire memo this evening if anybody is interested in it...

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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"if anybody is interested in it..."

Sure we are. Break it out. And thanks in advance.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Crabshacker
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I'll have it up about 6:45 pac. time

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 18:07 | Link to Comment Tyler Durden
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From Pair Trade Opportunity Of The Year: Long European, Short Chinese Caterers:

What happened?

A sharp sequential decline in growth and consumption during Jan-Feb from 4Q12, likely owing to an anti-corruption campaign that is weighing heavily on large sectors, such as catering, as well as liquidity tightening in February after a loose January.

Who would have thought that a business as simple as catering was a proxy for corruption? Of course, that this happens to be the case merely reinforces our conviction in the long leg: if there is one thing Europe will never have a shortage of, it's corruption.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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Thanks TD. 'Omniscience' should be your middle name.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:19 | Link to Comment geewhiz190
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it is worse over there than any numbers or charts can show.  anyone with money wants to get it out and most want to bring it to the U.S. any way they can and as fast as they can. this isn't an opinion.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment ajk24455
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So they have another 160% to go to catch up to the U.S.  and almost 200% to catch the U.K.  Sounds like a buying opportunity to me.  Until something breaks at least as David Rosenberg pointed out yesterday.   

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment Fruitcake
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I have just added Krugman to my list of heroes

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 04:36 | Link to Comment Keynesian Mess
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Tragic heroes, right? Thankfully, they always die to atone for all of their past moronic mistakes. What was the Nobel committee thinking?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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It would appear that the Chinese are headed for a Cyprus moment of their own, but I suspect that the government will avoid it all costs because they know that the Chinese peasants are nowhere near as docile as the Cypriots.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:39 | Link to Comment johny2
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and who says that money doesn´t grow on the trees? the fiat money we are talking about.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment Rustysilver
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More good news from China:

From BBC site:

Analysis of commercially available rice imported into the US has revealed it contains levels of lead far higher than regulations suggest are safe.

Dr Tsanangurayi Tongesayi of Monmouth University in New Jersey, US, and his team have tested a number of imported brands of rice bought from local shops.

Rice from China and Taiwan had the highest lead levels, but Dr Tongesayi stressed that all of the samples significantly exceeded the PTTIs.

"If you look through the scientific literature, especially on India and China, they irrigate their crops with raw sewage effluent and untreated industrial effluent," he explained.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Poopy rice!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 17:59 | Link to Comment TwoHoot
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" ... a situation where there are no further encumberable assets (for secured loans) ..."

Cut that up, put it in your favorite pipe and smoke it for a week or two until the ramifications of it produce a glorious vision.

Then we can talk reality.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment Crabshacker
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Edit...Ahhh fuck it..

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 22:31 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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@CrabShack

Regarding your earlier post: at your leisure, if possible, I'm still curious.

[third edit already- why can't these new fangled spell checkers be a little more assertive when they should know I'm buzzed?]

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 18:59 | Link to Comment miker
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China is fucked.  All their numbers are cooked.  Their environment is horrible.  Their government it more corrupt than ours.  They have way too many people.  It will be interesting to see how they collapse in the coming years. 

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Here's how it works:

1)  Chow Fun starts company.

2)  Chow Fun bribes bank president Hung Chow to get loan.

3)  Chow uses cash bribe government officials, auditors, etc.  Company now looks legit

4)  Chow's company goes public.

5)  Government officials, auditors, etc. all sell stock to suckers (e.g. Winkelvoss Twins).

6)  Chow Fun buys: house in LA (cash); Ferrari (cash); sends kids to school overseas.

7)  Eventually, the jig is up, and Chow dissappears.  Government officials, auditors, etc. don't look for him too hard.

8)  This happens many times & in many places, so China's credit market is a bubble.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 21:06 | Link to Comment knukles
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Ah, they don't bother to search for him because they all look alike.

(Knuks, yo momma told you about this shit...)

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment darteaus
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They don't bother to look for him, cause they all took money (so they might get rounded up too), and he might do it again and cut them in on moar!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 04:39 | Link to Comment Keynesian Mess
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Chow Fun = Sino Forest!

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment michelp
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But, but, but;

why should we believe GS numbers?

We never believe anythig else from them.

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Schmuck Raker
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Gets complicated, dunnit?

Thu, 04/11/2013 - 20:32 | Link to Comment WallowaMountainMan
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so, does this mean that the cost of money (interest) outways the benefit of its use as a growth mechanism?

save first buy later = real prosperity?

hmmmm....

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 04:51 | Link to Comment orangegeek
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Communism has a track record in finance and social performance.

 

Social - we kill our own.

 

Finance - we bankrupt ourselves by building shit no one needs.

 

You can never say to China "go fuck yourself", because they do it on a daily basis and that would be redundant.

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