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Guest Post: The Tunnel People That Live Under The Streets Of America

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Did you know that there are thousands upon thousands of homeless people that are living underground beneath the streets of major U.S. cities?  It is happening in Las Vegas, it is happening in New York City and it is even happening in Kansas City.  As the economy crumbles, poverty in the United States is absolutely exploding and so is homelessness. 

In addition to the thousands of "tunnel people" living under the streets of America, there are also thousands that are living in tent cities, there are tens of thousands that are living in their vehicles and there are more than a million public school children that do not have a home to go back to at night.  The federal government tells us that the recession "is over" and that "things are getting better", and yet poverty and homelessness in this country continue to rise with no end in sight.  So what in the world are things going to look like when the next economic crisis hits?

When I heard that there were homeless people living in a network of underground tunnels beneath the streets of Kansas City, I was absolutely stunned.  I have relatives that live in that area.  I never thought of Kansas City as one of the more troubled cities in the United States.

But according to the Daily Mail, police recently discovered a network of tunnels under the city that people had been living in...

Below the streets of Kansas City, there are deep underground tunnels where a group of vagrant homeless people lived in camps.


These so-called homeless camps have now been uncovered by the Kansas City Police, who then evicted the residents because of the unsafe environment.


Authorities said these people were living in squalor, with piles of garbage and dirty diapers left around wooded areas.

The saddest part is the fact that authorities found dirty diapers in the areas near these tunnels.  That must mean that babies were being raised in that kind of an environment.

Unfortunately, this kind of thing is happening all over the nation.  In recent years, the tunnel people of Las Vegas have received quite a bit of publicity all over the world.  It has been estimated that more than 1,000 people live in the massive network of flood tunnels under the city...

Deep beneath Vegas’s glittering lights lies a sinister labyrinth inhabited by poisonous spiders and a man nicknamed The Troll who wields an iron bar.


But astonishingly, the 200 miles of flood tunnels are also home to 1,000 people who eke out a living in the strip’s dark underbelly.


Some, like Steven and his girlfriend Kathryn, have furnished their home with considerable care - their 400sq ft 'bungalow' boasts a double bed, a wardrobe and even a bookshelf.

Could you imagine living like that?  Sadly, for an increasing number of Americans a "normal lifestyle" is no longer an option.  Either they have to go to the homeless shelters or they have to try to eke out an existence on their own any way that they can.

In New York City, authorities are constantly trying to root out the people that live in the tunnels under the city and yet they never seem to be able to find them all.  The following is from a New York Post article about the "Mole People" that live underneath New York City...

The homeless people who live down here are called Mole People. They do not, as many believe, exist in a separate, organized underground society. It's more of a solitary existence and loose-knit community of secretive, hard-luck individuals.

The New York Post followed one homeless man known as "John Travolta" on a tour through the underground world.  What they discovered was a world that is very much different from what most New Yorkers experience...

In the tunnels, their world is one of malt liquor, tight spaces, schizophrenic neighbors, hunger and spells of heat and cold. Travolta and the others eat fairly well, living on a regimented schedule of restaurant leftovers, dumped each night at different times around the neighborhood above his foreboding home.

Even as the Dow hits record high after record high, poverty in New York City continues to rise at a very frightening pace.  Incredibly, the number of homeless people sleeping in the homeless shelters of New York City has increased by a whopping 19 percent over the past year.

In many of our major cities, the homeless shelters are already at maximum capacity and are absolutely packed night after night.  Large numbers of homeless people are often left to fend for themselves.

That is one reason why we have seen the rise of so many tent cities.

Yes, the tent cities are still there, they just aren't getting as much attention these days because they do not fit in with the "economic recovery" narrative that the mainstream media is currently pushing.

In fact, many of the tent cities are larger than ever.  For example, you can check out a Reuters video about a growing tent city in New Jersey that was posted on YouTube at the end of March right here.  A lot of these tent cities have now become permanent fixtures, and unfortunately they will probably become much larger when the next major economic crisis strikes.

But perhaps the saddest part of all of this is the massive number of children that are suffering night after night.

For the first time ever, more than a million public school children in the United States are homeless.  That number has risen by 57 percent since the 2006-2007 school year.

So if things are really "getting better", then why in the world do we have more than a million public school children without homes?

These days a lot of families that have lost their homes have ended up living in their vehicles.  The following is an excerpt from a 60 Minutes interview with one family that is living in their truck...

This is the home of the Metzger family. Arielle,15. Her brother Austin, 13. Their mother died when they were very young. Their dad, Tom, is a carpenter. And, he's been looking for work ever since Florida's construction industry collapsed. When foreclosure took their house, he bought the truck on Craigslist with his last thousand dollars. Tom's a little camera shy - thought we ought to talk to the kids - and it didn't take long to see why.


Pelley: How long have you been living in this truck?


Arielle Metzger: About five months.


Pelley: What's that like?


Arielle Metzger: It's an adventure.


Austin Metzger: That's how we see it.


Pelley: When kids at school ask you where you live, what do you tell 'em?


Austin Metzger: When they see the truck they ask me if I live in it, and when I hesitate they kinda realize. And they say they won't tell anybody.


Arielle Metzger: Yeah it's not really that much an embarrassment. I mean, it's only life. You do what you need to do, right?

But after watching a news report or reading something on the Internet about these people we rapidly forget about them because they are not a part of "our world".

Another place where a lot of poor people end up is in prison.  In a previous article, I detailed how the prison population in the United States has been booming in recent years.  If you can believe it, the United States now has approximately 25 percent of the entire global prison population even though it only has about 5 percent of the total global population.

And these days it is not just violent criminals that get thrown into prison.  If you lose your job and get behind on your bills, you could be thrown into prison as well.  The following is from a recent CBS News article...

Roughly a third of U.S. states today jail people for not paying off their debts, from court-related fines and fees to credit card and car loans, according to the American Civil Liberties Union. Such practices contravene a 1983 United States Supreme Court ruling that they violate the Constitutions's Equal Protection Clause.


Some states apply "poverty penalties," such as late fees, payment plan fees and interest, when people are unable to pay all their debts at once. Alabama charges a 30 percent collection fee, for instance, while Florida allows private debt collectors to add a 40 percent surcharge on the original debt. Some Florida counties also use so-called collection courts, where debtors can be jailed but have no right to a public defender. In North Carolina, people are charged for using a public defender, so poor defendants who can't afford such costs may be forced to forgo legal counsel.


The high rates of unemployment and government fiscal shortfalls that followed the housing crash have increased the use of debtors' prisons, as states look for ways to replenish their coffers. Said Chettiar, "It's like drawing blood from a stone. States are trying to increase their revenue on the backs of the poor."

If you are poor, the United States can be an incredibly cold and cruel place.  Mercy and compassion are in very short supply.

The middle class continues to shrink and poverty continues to grow with each passing year.  According to the U.S. Census Bureau, approximately one out of every six Americans is now living in poverty.  And if you throw in those that are considered to be "near poverty", that number becomes much larger.  According to the U.S. Census Bureau, more than 146 million Americans are either "poor" or "low income".

For many more facts about the rapid increase of poverty in this country, please see my previous article entitled "21 Statistics About The Explosive Growth Of Poverty In America That Everyone Should Know".

But even as poverty grows, it seems like the hearts of those that still do have money are getting colder.  Just check out what happened recently at a grocery store that was in the process of closing down in Augusta, Georgia...

Residents filled the parking lot with bags and baskets hoping to get some of the baby food, canned goods, noodles and other non-perishables. But a local church never came to pick up the food, as the storeowner prior to the eviction said they had arranged. By the time the people showed up for the food, what was left inside the premises—as with any eviction—came into the ownership of the property holder, SunTrust Bank.


The bank ordered the food to be loaded into dumpsters and hauled to a landfill instead of distributed. The people that gathered had to be restrained by police as they saw perfectly good food destroyed. Local Sheriff Richard Roundtree told the news “a potential for a riot was extremely high.”

Can you imagine watching that happen?

But of course handouts and charity are only temporary solutions.  What the poor in this country really need are jobs, and unfortunately there has not been a jobs recovery in the United States since the recession ended.

In fact, the employment crisis looks like it is starting to take another turn for the worse.  The number of layoffs in the month of March was 30 percent higher than the same time a year ago.

Meanwhile, small businesses are indicating that hiring is about to slow down significantly.  According to a recent survey by the National Federation of Independent Businesses, small businesses in the United States are extremely pessimistic right now.  The following is what Goldman Sachs had to say about this survey...

Components of the survey were consistent with the decline in headline optimism, as the net percent of respondents planning to hire fell to 0% (from +4%), those expecting higher sales fell to -4% (from +1%), and those reporting that it is a good time to expand ticked down to +4% (from +5%). The net percent of respondents expecting the economy to improve was unchanged at -28%, a very depressed level. However, on the positive side, +25% of respondents plan increased capital spending [ZH: With Alcoa CapEx spending at a 2 year low]. Small business owners continue to place poor sales, taxes, and red tape at the top of their list of business problems, as they have for the past several years.

So why aren't our politicians doing anything to fix this?

For example, why in the world don't they stop millions of our jobs from being sent out of the country?

Well, the truth is that they don't think we have a problem.  In fact, U.S. Senator Ron Johnson recently said that U.S. trade deficits "don't matter".

He apparently does not seem alarmed that more than 56,000 manufacturing facilities have been shut down in the United States since 2001.

And since the last election, the White House has seemed to have gone into permanent party mode.

On Tuesday, another extravagant party will be held at the White House.  It is being called "In Performance at the White House: Memphis Soul", and it is going to include some of the biggest names in the music industry...

As the White House has previously announced, Justin Timberlake (who will be making his White House debut), Al Green, Ben Harper, Queen Latifah, Cyndi Lauper, Joshua Ledet, Sam Moore, Charlie Musselwhite, Mavis Staples, and others will be performing at the exclusive event.

And so who will be paying for all of this?

You and I will be.  Even as the Obamas cry about all of the other "spending cuts" that are happening, they continue to blow millions of taxpayer dollars on wildly extravagant parties and vacations.

Overall, U.S. taxpayers will spend well over a billion dollars on the Obamas this year.

I wonder what the tunnel people that live under the streets of America think about that.

Living Underground - Photo by Patrick Cashin


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Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:01 | 3441644 TheSilverJournal
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...the consequences of centrally planning the economy

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:04 | 3441654 redpill
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Pretty nice tunnel though, well lit, lots of space....

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:08 | 3441685 dick cheneys ghost
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I heard JPM was going to open a bank branch down there, you know for sub-prime loans........

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3441702 johnQpublic
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subprime for the subterraneum

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:15 | 3441718 Divided States ...
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And their leader's name was Friendly, Edgar Friendly.

From the movie Demolition Man.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:16 | 3441722 redpill
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Send a maniac to catch a maniac!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:28 | 3441782 King_of_simpletons
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The economy is so bad that there is a bubble in underground tunnel dwellings.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:31 | 3441800 DJ Happy Ending
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So the moral of the story is don't be a carpenter in Florida?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:38 | 3441821 TheGermanGuy
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Morlocks and Eloi

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:38 | 3442087 kaiserhoff
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Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:49 | 3442155 BaBaBouy
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Could We Get A Penthouse Unit Down There For Our Bankster CEO ???

That Way He Could Just Come Up Like A Sewer Rat Every Morning And Walk To Work...

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:55 | 3442174 NoDebt
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I sense a new ZH storyline developing.  Greek cave dwellers, New York C.H.U.D.s, I can almost feel further stories coming.  Hey, somebody's gotta tell it, I guess.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:06 | 3442234 Thisson
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Dont forget the D.U.M.B.s (deep underground military bunkers)!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:41 | 3442116 Dr Paul Krugman
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This is why we need a jobs program stimulus.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:50 | 3442135 toady
Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:09 | 3442248 SpiceMustFlow
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You are a dangerous idiot krugman, please do us all a favor and off yourself please

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:10 | 3442252 The Juggernaut
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@Dr Paul Krugman: It was central planning (both monetary and fiscal policies) that made it this bad!!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 20:11 | 3443468 yatikto
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you know his response "it could have been worse".  "you are welcome"

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:46 | 3442143 Vince Clortho
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How about a Central Bank enema instead.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:35 | 3442358 akak
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Followed by a bernankectomy.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 18:25 | 3443145 prains
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and a colonoscopy with a hair brush

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 18:38 | 3443198 akak
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Make it a wire brush and I'm on board.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:56 | 3442180 Chuck Walla
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This is why we need a jobs program stimulus.

What the fuck was the last 11 trillion in debt about?  You know jobs aren't good for Obama. Must break all these damn crackers economically before we can have the blessings of the socialist state.  And cocksuckers like Krugie can bless us with their intellectual perfection.




Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:59 | 3442208 JLee2027
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+1 Green arrow.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:11 | 3442259 hapless
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"What the fuck was the last 11 trillion in debt about?"

Softening up the economy so that the twelfth trillion can work?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:19 | 3442283 hannah
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"Softening up the economy so that the twelfth trillion can work?..." the second half of the year. always in the second half of the year.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:46 | 3442420 Bicycle Repairman
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Nobel Prize Winner Paul Krugman: "This is why we need a jobs program stimulus."

Chuck Walla: "What the fuck was the last 11 trillion in debt about?"

Nobel Prize Winner Paul Krugman: <crickets>

Chuck Walla: 1,  Nobel Prize Winner Paul Krugman: 0


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 18:47 | 3443234 nmewn
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Krugman lost the bit-keys to his understand they're supposed to be priceless ;-)

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:15 | 3442254 Kirk2NCC1701
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Paul, don't bullshit a bullshitter.  And as a thrill-seeking, womanizing star-ship captain, I'm one of the best bullshitters in the Galaxy.  ;-)

Seriously though...

The sad fact is that the developed countries do not need extra labor capacity -- thanks to modern machines, tech and computers.  We only need a way to keep the poor and increasingly redundant masses from disrupting the system, or downright revolting against the NWO we now have.

In the case of these poor souls:  The lower they are, the softer they fall.

In the case of the Global Elite and Hyper-Elite:  The higher they are...

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:18 | 3442953 Papasmurf
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You seem to treat economics as a religion.  Beliefs won't make your theories work.  When theory isn't proved out in practice, you need to evaluate what is wrong with your models. 

You would learn plenty by studying Einstein's famous quotes.



"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

"If A is a success in life, then A equals x plus y plus z. Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut."



Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:43 | 3442128 The_Dude
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Yep....his mistake was wanting to enter a constructive trade (read 'not finance') that the TPTB are only too happy to flood with illegals......we need MOAR people

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:26 | 3442318 Shizzmoney
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So the moral of the story is don't be a carpenter in Florida?

Don't be one in general - look what they did to Jesus.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 18:50 | 3443241 nmewn
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Not all carpenters are romans or

Besides, a "progressive" would blame the nails & wood ;-)

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:55 | 3442851 Larry Dallas
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The moral of the story is that O is a big fat liar hypocrite who rather throw lavish parties and expensive vacations rather than work.

This is no time to be partying. But considering its his 2nd term, he doesn't give a shit.

The those who have been fooled the most are the blacks. On print he's hanging with rap stars, but he's done absolutely nothing for the black community.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:38 | 3441811 SamAdams
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Perfect recruits for the Brownshirts eager to crack some Bolshevik heads!  Things won't get better, and those direlects in charge will keep stealing until there is nothing left to steal.  How much worse does it have to get before people organize and fight back?  I suppose once the dollar loses out to the yuan, and imports cease, then maybe?  or will we be at war with NK, er, I mean China by then? 

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:40 | 3441838 AldousHuxley
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when illegal immigrants can get up and go to work and live in a home and still have money left over to send back "home".

these white trash druggies need to be sent to Africa.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:27 | 3441780 otto skorzeny
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is there a 1-car tunnel garage for your Escalade with the 96 month sub-prime auto loan from Ally Bank?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:25 | 3442035 ronaldawg
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Maybe OBAMA can give them some golfing tips?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:52 | 3442159 Chuck Walla
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Good thing Bloomberg has all the time and money to care for us all. Pity he doesn't do much for the people of the city he is mayor of, but when your eye is on a higher prize, fuck the little guy.



Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:16 | 3441983 DaveyJones
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great acoustics

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:34 | 3442075 Chump
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Ha, not always a positive if you don't like a 5 string...

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:48 | 3442144 Chump
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And really, Scruggs style isn't for everyone...


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:55 | 3442179 geologyguy
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Don't laugh Mr. redpill. Should the fat kid over in Korea have the nukes on missiles, these tunnel people might be tasked with rebuilding our society after the dust settles.

Remember, Master-Blaster runs Bartertown.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:09 | 3441689 McMolotov
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Not "consequences." That implies it's accidental. Once you realize it's the intentional destruction of the middle class, you get even more angry.

Christ on a cracker, it's only lunch and a want a drink already.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:32 | 3441788 TheSilverJournal
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The central planners' ONLY concern is to gain / keep control over distribution of resources and wield power over those who need to gain the central planners' favor to direct those resources in their direction. The central planners are not at all concerned about destroying the middle is simply a consequence. Just because the distruction of the middle class is not an accident doesn't mean it's their intent.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:00 | 3442213 GeezerGeek
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Of coourse it is! Agenda 21.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:37 | 3441826 tarsubil
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Our future is best faced sober. It is hard to work a guillotine when drunk.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:19 | 3441998 gtb
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If I can drive, I can drop a blade.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:17 | 3442275 RockyRacoon
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What, you mean like somebody might get hurt?  I say get likkered up and go at it.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:42 | 3441843 Headbanger
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I'm already there. Cheers!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:47 | 3441860 Ban KKiller
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C.H. U. D. .....remember they just wanted a quick snack too!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:13 | 3441975 Matt
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The police are lucky they didn't get turned into dinner. I guess that's when you know the situation is bad, when a police sweep of the tunnels results in an entire squad gone "missing".

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:20 | 3442280 RockyRacoon
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From the article:

The saddest part is the fact that authorities found dirty diapers in the areas near these tunnels.  That must mean that babies were being raised in that kind of an environment.

It's not just babies who use diapers I'm stocking up as a hedge against inflation.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:34 | 3441805 overbet
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Maybe thats what all the bullets are for.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 22:02 | 3443792 Miffed Microbio...
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I think this is wishful thinking. Bullets are too valuable for that hence the use of CO and HCN gas by the Nazis.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:39 | 3442388 CheapBastard
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Reminds me of the HoBos of the Depression era living in HoBo towns:

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:58 | 3442483 rwe2late
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"...the consequences of centrally planning the economy"

rather instead,

the consequences of autocratically, secretively, and narrowly self-servingly mismanaging the economy.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:31 | 3442992 Freddie
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Hope & Change with dear muslim. 

Come on a junk me CS'ers!

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 00:23 | 3444044 Banjo
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you missed the part about centrally planning it for the corporations and connected oligarchs.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:01 | 3441646 TeamDepends
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Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:45 | 3441857 DoChenRollingBearing
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Best one word comment I have seen in quite a while.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:21 | 3442287 RockyRacoon
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There were Hoovervilles -- why not Obamavilles?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:40 | 3442387 akak
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They didn't build those Obamavilles --- somebody else did that.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 18:53 | 3443244 XitSam
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Luckily Nanny Bloomberg prevents food donations to homeless shelters because the salt, fiber and nutritional content cannot be verified. He'd rather people starve than eat unverified food. It may even meet his standards, but since it hasn't been tested they cannot eat. 

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:00 | 3442487 Taint Boil
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Kinda like the Obama Phone vs The Reagan Phone.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:48 | 3442149 NoDebt
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Damned straight.  He may not have built it, but he damned sure earned that title.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 18:54 | 3442320 Cathartes Aura
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yeah sure, it's only fair to blame whoever is the current figurehead. . .

but at least acknowledge that people have been living underground, and in tent cities, etc. well before Obama was a media phenomena - the Las Vegas link is 2010, and the story predates the link. . . in fact the NY underground tunnels are the subject of a documentary released in 2000.

but sure, Obama's fault - amrka was doing just fine before he arrived. . .


edit:  stunning rebuttals, voters, both here and later in the thread.  your vote counts, keep 'em comin'

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 19:07 | 3443271 nmewn
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Yes...but he extinguished any & all gotta give him credit for that!

For example, in order to provide health insurance for a mere 10% of the population who wanted it OR DIDN'T WANT IT...he signed off on a bill mandating the other 90% Change their coverages.

Increasing premiums = wage earners opting for lower coverage to make ends meet elsewhere.

A hearty well done for the unprecedented brilliance of Pelosi, Reid and O'Barry is certainly in order ;-)

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 19:37 | 3443360 Cathartes Aura
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meh, it's a 3-ring circus, pollytishuns get votes for keeping their favourite plates spinnin' until the right moment to pass the bill arrives. . .

however long it takes, just keep the "bill" floating, let others add their bits to it, spin, spin, then ------------- whoosh!!!

it's voted on, it's a new law, and voters are like, WTF??!? where did the NDAA come from??? huh???

shit's gonna get real, fast, we're moving into a time like no other experienced by amrkns, sooner than they could ever imagine.

watching the fake markets gyrate, what's the other hand up to??

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 20:00 | 3443437 nmewn
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Well yeah, they've fucked up the ME so bad its time to run over to Asia and poke Líl Kim in the eyeball I guess.

Anything to keep everyones eyes off of our reality.

But hey!'s some good news...

Man Gets 7 Years for Stealing Obama's Teleprompter

The nerve ;-)

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 20:07 | 3443456 Encroaching Darkness
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The ancient video game Deus Ex (the original ) had the Mole People living down in the abandoned subway tunnels. I thought they were making that up.

On the other hand, now I have a new Plan C!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 21:01 | 3443636 Cathartes Aura
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video game "subliminals" are very interesting to watch. . .

take World of Warcraft's launching a new playable race, Goblins - listen for a few seconds to their "voice" and look at the illustrations. . . they're from Kezan, and are all about money, by the way - and WoW currency is gold, silver, copper. . . in game they have areas where they're polluting the environs by extracting "oil" etc.

the "Alliance" side has "worgen" - negrow in reverse - they're kinda "wolfman/animals" with british-type accents - and are very sexually suggestive.

the latest expansion has brought in Panda characters, in Pandaria - introducing the gamers to Chinese history (Disneyfied, sure), and expanding the game base to include what once were "gold farmers" for the western players (chinese gold farming/leveling sites very popular for years). . .

kids were already enamored of Japan's anime, Pokemon, etc. - these games are fascinating to watch the incremental creep of globalisation, tutoring the youth in WarCraft, the Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto - they may be in their parent's basements for now, but. . .

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:02 | 3441648 BLOTTO
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Sewer Zombies...


Living subterrain with the crickets, worms, roots and shit & piss...



Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:15 | 3441979 Matt
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Makes caves look inviting.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:26 | 3442042 Go Tribe
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Nah, the sewer zombies work on wall street and inside the beltway.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:03 | 3442228 toady
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I love the whole zombie meme.

Once the shit hits the fan homeland security will just pass the word down the line; 'all those refugees / city dwellers have zombie disease. Shoot them from a distance to avoid being infected'

And the G.I.s will say, 'kewl! Just like call of duty!'

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:23 | 3442308 centerline
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If not, DARPA will probably have it covered.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:32 | 3442348 Cathartes Aura
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few shots of whatever "gases" they use over in Afraqistan, no one would ever know. . .

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:03 | 3441650 Burt Gummer
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I live in an old abandoned warehouse. WiFi from some random hotspot a few blocks away. Shit sucks.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:25 | 3441764 Harbanger
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Here's a funny video I got from sinclairs site.  I hope this is what happens to bernanke the wolf.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:39 | 3441830 Dr. Engali
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I'll see your shake and raise you one from Anonymous

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:04 | 3441661 Silverballs
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it reminds me of the movie demoltion man

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:06 | 3441665 Vashta Nerada
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Note that the Kansas story was broken by the Daily Mail.  I find it fascinating how the media in this country will blackball news that undermines their political belief system.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:20 | 3442001 DaveyJones
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fascinating until you realize that journalism is dead (outside the internet) and that "news media" is now in the hands of a few very large, very connected entities 

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 19:19 | 3443297 nmewn
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Yes, the walking dead.

How about a David "Douchebag" Gregory Update:   ???

"Note to David Gregory: If cars are parked in front of your house for a month, send someone else to complain about it.

The “Meet the Press” host made a scene Tuesday when he lit into organizers of the D.C. Design House, located this year on Foxhall Road. The broadcaster was distressed that visitors to the show house had parked on a nearby street, some directly in front of his home, preventing easy access by his crew.

“There are a lot of people clogging up our streets,” Gregory told us late Tuesday.

It’s hard to miss the 6-foot-5 journalist under ordinary circumstances — harder yet when he’s waving his arms and complaining loud enough for everyone nearby to hear. This all went down on the front lawn of the show house, witnessed by several designers and guests at a media preview.

“You could hear all this with the doors closed,” said designer David Mitchell. “This was a very public and immature display. It’s a public street. You don’t get to live in a neighborhood and say who gets to park.”

Apparently Davids home driveway is taken up by his RV? His boat? His third or fourth car?...what? ;-)

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:26 | 3442032 samsara
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"...undermines their political belief system."

... Undermines their paycheck.

There,  Fixed for ya.    THEY DON'T HAVE A BELIEF System.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:28 | 3442052 ronaldawg
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According to the Daily Mail, when they "cleared" the tunnels they only found/liberated about 8 homeless....

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:46 | 3443041 Freddie
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The only newspapers that provide semi-honest news about the USSA aka O-Muslim Amerika is the Daily Mail and The Telegraph - both British papers.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:07 | 3441667 Floodmaster
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In a capitalist economy, technological improvement and its consequent increased production augment the amount of material wealth (use value) in society, whilst simultaneously diminishing the economic value of the same wealth, thereby diminishing the rate of profit — a paradox characteristic of economic crisis in a capitalist economy; "poverty in the midst of plenty" consequent to over-production and under-consumption. Das_Kapital

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:23 | 3442022 gtb
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Are you suggesting ours is a capitalism economy?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:45 | 3442130 blabam
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In communist economy you die. - world history

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:51 | 3442160 docj
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In a capitalist economy...

Good thing we've not had one of those in almost a century, if ever.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:12 | 3442261 Thisson
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Underconsumption??  In our economy, everything gets consumed.  The problem described in Das Kapital is one of lack of vision.  If robots somehow did all of the labor necessary to provide all of the food, clothing, and shelter necessary for every person on earth, we would be sitting here complaining about how high unemployment is, instead of recognizing the potential to free up our time for more noble pursuits.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:57 | 3442455 Floodmaster
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Walmart stage capitalism, bloated inventories, global ageing population, are we living on the same planet ???

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:45 | 3442789 hardcleareye
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Under-consumption is the same concept as underutilized productivity capacity...  aka.. malinvestment.... be it in people (training, education etc) or in physical production...  GM, etc

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:38 | 3442742 hardcleareye
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Ahhhh, I love Marx!!!!

It's a pity more people haven't actually taken the time to read what he has written. 

Note, before you-all get your underwear up in a bunch, just because I enjoy reading Marx, and share some of his insights, doesn't mean I am a socialist or a communist or god forbid........ a,

I might be considered a terrorist though with some of the opinions I have expressed on ZH.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:08 | 3441680 Gringo Viejo
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"Spect I'll be there before long.

They got a welcome wagon?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:10 | 3441686 whisperin
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Just another example of excellence in leadership brought to you by the Socialist party of the USSA..... er Democratic Party. Cue the MSM in 3...2..1.. oh forget it. The agenda memo out today says everything is fine.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:09 | 3441687 Racer
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US, a third world country where they kick babies out of their tunnels onto the streets

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:54 | 3442169 docj
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If we don't first

1) Abort them, and/or

2) Kill them if they survive the abortion

Really, was society this sick, ungodly and perverted in Roman times? Greek? Egyptian? Sumerian???

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:35 | 3442368 Cathartes Aura
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yup, every sperm is sacred, every baby deserves their existence.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:03 | 3442498 docj
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Enjoy your turn on the floor of the colosseum, consumer.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:12 | 3442561 Cathartes Aura
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you first, hater.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:21 | 3442608 docj
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Said the guy who doesn't know the difference between a sperm and a baby.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:52 | 3442793 Cathartes Aura
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said the guy who doesn't know that babee-life supposedly begins when the sacred sperm makes a zygote.

no babees needed any more, govt.control desired pre-babee.

everyone knows post-babee, yer on yer own - it's the wombs they're after.

oh, and they're dropping the "zygote" part to make it easier for folks - it's all about saving the personhoods now, right Oklahoma, Mississippi, Virginia?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:38 | 3443020 WillyGroper
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>>>>>every baby deserves their existence.

In a tunnel, cave or prison.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:10 | 3441688 I Am Not a Copp...
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<=  Click here if you think the junker is a fag

<=  Click here if you are a fag

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:26 | 3441700 akak
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What do I click if I think both the junker and you are a "fag"?


PS: What do I click if I think that your use of the word "fag" in this context is both inappropriate and offensive?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:28 | 3442046 gtb
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Are you looking to be offended?  And this is the best you can find?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:28 | 3442050 francis_sawyer
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Do you mean "flaming"?...

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:35 | 3442086 I Am Not a Copp...
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akak is not a homosexual but he is willing to learn

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:47 | 3442142 akak
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It just burns me up when I think of the good and honorable Bawney Fwank being insulted in that way ....

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:37 | 3442379 Cathartes Aura
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thanks for providing an alternative voting system akak.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:10 | 3441691 akak
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And here I thought it was going to be the banksters and political oligarchs who were going to turn into the Morlocks.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 22:26 | 3443841 Miffed Microbio...
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Actually akak I think the bankster's are perfectly represented as the Eloi. The master race, fair skinned, evolved and refined. They live the life of leisure being tended to by the Morlocks, the basest form of humanity living under the ground in caves. H.G Wells sought a balance between the 2 races by having the Morlocks consume the Eloi. Unfortunately we have not taken on that role at this time and our modern day Eloi have become quite complacent and confident. If the masses were to ever wake up the numbers are at least on our side.


Sat, 04/13/2013 - 02:18 | 3444124 Parrotile
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The numbers may be on "our" side -

The overt (and covert) mass killing technology is firmly on "their" side - paid for by "our" tax dollars I may add - dollars that most certainly could have been used for a far more worthy purpose . . . .

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:10 | 3441692 caimen garou
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get out of your office ben and take a good look around this country and you will see what  you have done! fucking idiots don't have the ballls to look the real world in the face but sit in their cozy little world feeding off the poor!

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:11 | 3441694 The Abstraction...
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I wonder how many of these people told themselves that they would fight to the death were the battle be brought to their homes.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3441695 Carl Spackler
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The Obamas are a big part of the problem. 

Stand in the way of everything and exact a tribute. 

Block it if no tribute. 

It's the Third World Dictator way.



Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:24 | 3441758 Bad Attitude
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And Dear Leader fiddles while the nation burns.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:55 | 3443070 Freddie
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F****ing TV and Hollywood support him and created him ALL the way.  If you watch their shit then you support it.   And no Fox News is NOT your friend.   ALL of TV, all of Hollywood, all teh sports league support him. 

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:11 | 3441698 francis_sawyer
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As I mentioned in another thread...


I'd rather live in one of those tunnels... FREE... UNENCUMBERED... Than owe a fucking 'dime' to a motherfucking jew banker [who prints money out of thin air, because some goddamned motherfuckers, 100 years, ago, were bribed into selling their souls, in the middle of the night, over a Christmas holiday weekend... the keys to operate an ILLEGAL franchise]...


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:24 | 3441745 otto skorzeny
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I just hope Israel doesn't lose their billions in "US foreign aid" because of the sequester-although I think the odds them not receiving it are none at all

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:27 | 3441864 francis_sawyer
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I have a friend... Who works in a 'high tech' cyber capacity for one of these bloated MIC 'Georgy Porgy's'...

Laterally ~ because she is really a good heart, very smart, & has a curious appetite for knowledge... I have been gradually feeding her [the LITE VERSION], of everything I talk about here on ZH... Random stuff, like MSM, lies, jews, 9/11, etc. etc...

Anecdotally ~ she thought I was crazy at the beginning... I started chipping away [the '9/11' stuff was the low hanging fruit ~ & she went from 180 degree opposition, to actually recruiting other MIC involved 'friends' to do battle with me ~ so now I have "4" people sitting at a dinner table thinking I'm MEL GIBSON, instead of one & they all get their checks signed, in one way or another, by the MIC]... Finally ~ as a '1 to 1' intrapersonal dynamic, she capitulated... But, as I told her all along... It's not going to really matter... Because at the end of the day, even WHEN you finally understand, you're NOT going to give up your $100K+ job, in protest, even WHEN you become aware of the truth...

You're not going to sell your brand new Range Rover... You ARE, in fact... your KHAKIS...

This went on for a period of time [with promises, by her] that she was REALLY SERIOUS about her personal morals... I talked to her about drones, etc... [which I highly suspect, is the part of the MIC that signs her checks ~ but I never confirmed, because I never wanted to put her on the spot ~ & THEY ALL work under a veil of secrecy which they're not allowed to talk about]... I had another [this is no shit], who was clearly either CIA or NSA, argue with me that Benghazi had NOTHING TO DO with Syria [because, of course, her final words... "We have the intel & you're just speculating"]... I swear I'm not making this up...

Anyway ~ at one point I was casually talking about jews [to the MIC tech gal] not the alphabet soup staffer] & said... I bet there are quite a number of jews in your heirarchy... She confirmed this by saying that not only was her boss a jew, but that most of the heirarchy thereto were jews... [which I shouldn't make a point of, because MsCreant has informed us that the MAIN REASON jews rise to those positions is because ghetto jews are homeschooled towards advancement & ghetto negroes are homeschooled to reject scholastics & worship NBA stars]... I think she's a teacher, so she knows...

Anyway... Our REGULAR discussion sessions finally ended one day [with my saying ~ It's no use talking to you anymore about this because you're basically just a 'Praetorian']... I didn't want the relationship to devolve further because I do believe she is a good heart behind her 'Praetorian' occupation...

I bumped into her recently & we got to chit chatting... I don't remember how, but 'THE SEQUESTER' came up & she said that a few dozen staff at ther place were being cut loose because of it...

So I asked her how it affected her [previously acknowledged] jew bosses... Answer: ZERO



Note to all: ALL of the above are true stories... They're anecdotes... Divine something out of them, or dismiss them... Use your logic... Those aren't anonymous rantings from an avatar on an internet blog, they're real life flesh & blood stories, about human interaction, between real life people...

Nobody got paid... Nobody profited from the angle... Sometimes I WISH I could get paid to tell stories... But then again, I know that any 'stories' that my mind could possibly conjure would absolutely PALE in comparison to what happens in everyday life...

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:30 | 3442066 ronaldawg
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How did she know that her bosses were JEWS?  Did she do a racial purity test?  Is there a different between a practicing JEW and a non-religious JEW?

Want to know......

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:43 | 3442104 francis_sawyer
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I took her word for it...


He main boss was without a question a jew... She'd been out with him [not really 'dating', but in any case it was acknowledged, between them, by way of communication... Not really anything earth shattering, from what I gather, just simple communication]...

The rest were an offshoot of that... I can't answer why... Perhaps my vague question about it widened the visible 'light spectrum' for her & it became easier to identify things that people don't ordinarily see in broad daylight...


& for the record... WHO MOTHERFUCKING CARES about the distinction between 'non-religious' or 'religious' jews... How many times do I have to say this... RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT...


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:50 | 3442154 ronaldawg
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So by extension of your logic if you are 1/16th JEW and have a semi-jewish surname you should be shunned and persecuted? 

Just trying to get a handle on where you stand.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:07 | 3442530 dontgoforit
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Could it be that they're just the smartest people in the room? or the most blessed?  or the most ruthless?

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 00:23 | 3444042 francis_sawyer
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Shunned & persecuted?


I'd hardly say that the shareholders of the US [non]Federal [non]Reserve, the BIS, the IMF, a healthy dose of the MIC, or the Lion's share of the pedophiles in Hollywood are being shunned & persecuted...

Enjoy your kool-aid... That's where I stand...

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 03:44 | 3444166 bunnyswanson
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Would like to share an experience I had with a Jewish man who was a nonpracticing Jew.  We met as he was having life changes.  He flew down here and talked to me about it all.  I asked every question I could think of as I felt this was an opportunity to learn.  He had been rejected by his faith after marrying a white woman, highly accomplished with degree from prominent woman's college in NE, but not Jewish.  \

He was an athiest.  He theorized Jewish rise to the top because over the course of time, the strongest DNA survived the many attempts to wipe them out. 

He talked of the holocaust with this summation:  All we wanted was someone to blow up the railroad tracks (to the work camps).  I believe the delay was looked at as colluding.  Resentment was in his voice.  He also spoke of the ban of entry to Jewish refugees by US; disdain surfaced in his tone of voice.  I think he blamed me.

One last thing - He was selling his house.  His neighbor of 20 yrs, a banker, gave him 20 grand to hold it for him since they loved it.  Two day's later, the banker's wife changed her mind, and he called off the deal.  My Jewish friend kept the 20 grand and lost a 20 year relationship.  He seems to justify it as a simple business deal but I could tell he was swallowing his words as he stated them.

He had deep sad eyes. 

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 09:26 | 3444323 francis_sawyer
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Thanks for adding that story, but I'm compelled to add a few comments... To anyone reading this, feel free to reject my synopsis at will because I know nothing about that story [except for what was written above]... Here are my random thoughts...


He had been rejected by his faith after marrying a white woman

This brings up two issues... The most important one [solely for the purpose of any francis_sawyer comments, now & in the future], is that 'faith' has nothing to do with it, for me... I don't identify jews as A RELIGION, I identify them as a sort of 'breed' of people... I don't believe that's a fallacy because they seem to identify with each other in that respect, so why should they be bothered if anyone else does?...

As for the woman he married... I believe that it customary that offspring from a jewish mother are jewish... I don't pretend to be an expert on that, so someone can correct me if I'm wrong... In any case, that might explain the reason that his family frowned upon the union... Within my family structure exists the same [but opposite] situation... One of my Uncles, [on my mother's side], married a jewish woman... They had 9 kids, so, technically, I have 9 jewish cousins... None of them were 'practicing' jews, which again, is irrelevant to me... Her brother, obviously also raised in a jewish family, ended up marrying a non-jew [as your story above]...

He theorized Jewish rise to the top because over the course of time, the strongest DNA survived the many attempts to wipe them out.

On the surface, that comes out as plausible rationale, but if you really dig down deep, it's a load of bullshit... Jews don't have any special franchise on being an oppressed people... Everybody has been oppressed... Irish were oppressed, blacks were made slaves out of, chinese coolie labor in America, Japs did horrible things to Chinese, Holodomors, Europeans wiped out native Americans, Catholics slaughtered many during the Inquisition, who were, earlier oppressed by the Romans... Currently, there is the sex trade [which oppresses women]...

I'm sick of that whole 'woe is me' story...

He talked of the holocaust with this summation:  All we wanted was someone to blow up the railroad tracks (to the work camps).  I believe the delay was looked at as colluding.  Resentment was in his voice.  He also spoke of the ban of entry to Jewish refugees by US; disdain surfaced in his tone of voice.  I think he blamed me.

Ditto on above... I'm sick of this 'woe is me story'... All 'WE' wanted???... Sounds like he was there... So either you're about 90 years old, or he's milking the suffering of others... ban of entry to Jewish refugees???... Subsequent to the Balfour Agreement, & after WWI, the idea of 'The League of Nations' was presented, but not ratified... It came out of mothballs after WWII and eventually became the United Nations after a lot of arm twisting... One of the earliest provisions was to create a jewish homeland, which, was one of the first, middle of the night, backdoor deals that got hustled through The United Nations before anybody even knew what it was... So now you have the Apartheid State of Israel [who steal Palestinian land at will, seal & embargo attempts to give aid to the Palestinians, & outright practice the same discrimination of African refugees in Israel]...

So as I make constant mention of, here on this blog... There are the jews who are the POWER NODE ones [like the bankers, MSM, political activists], then there the other ones, [like your friend], who are STONE COLD SILENT about the incalculable representation in the power nodes, yet are quick to give you a sob story about refugees, & concentration camps, whilst ignoring that his own glorified homestate, are the worst practitioners on the planet with regards to oppression...

One last thing - He was selling his house.  His neighbor of 20 yrs, a banker, gave him 20 grand to hold it for him since they loved it.  Two day's later, the banker's wife changed her mind, and he called off the deal.  My Jewish friend kept the 20 grand and lost a 20 year relationship.

I'm not really following this that well... So a guy paid him an option [of $20k], to hold a house, then backed out on the deal & he [your jew friend] kept the option money?... He just made $20k... & wait, he's SAD for losing a friend?... The one who should be sad is the guy who is OUT $20k and HIS [JEW] friend valued the $20k more than the friendship & took the money & ran... Typical...

A couple of years ago, the same thing happened to me in reverse... I paid a $10K option on a piece of property, but later had to back out of the deal... So I was out $10k... The guy was not a friend, or anything... I dusted myself off & moved on...


Whatever... I'm sick of all the boo hoo...

Junk Away



Fri, 04/12/2013 - 17:46 | 3443042 WillyGroper
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They're names are BergStein & they were eating jelly donuts.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:05 | 3442232 Rustysilver
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Francis Sawyer,

As i have mention before; I trace my background to Central Europe; Poland specifically. A couple stone throws away from Hitler's bunker in East Prussia.

Prior to WW 2 Poland had about 31 Million people and about 3 million Jewish people. (why do you think Germans set up those Polish death camps (per Mr. Obama)

in Poland.  More than 50 % of all the doctors were Jewish; same ratio for college professors and other professions.  Most business were in Jewish hands.

I don't need to read a history book, this is from my parents.

What I find fascinating that the same set up is in UK and US: other countries too.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:11 | 3442255 ronaldawg
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Same with Weimar Germany - those were most likely practicing Jews and you could easily pick them out.

But today - everything is so diluted, how can you tell if someone is "Jewish" or not - or does Francis just want to hang anyone who is successful?

Sounds very Soviet to me. 

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 02:10 | 3444045 francis_sawyer
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You're relatively new around here... I have made countless posts on this blog [over a long period of time], which position me, with relativity, on the RGB scale...

To say it one more time, my BASIC problem is this...

1. Either they're TOTAL EVIL [like the ones mentioned above]... I can't wrap my head around the impossible statistical mathematical over-representation of people who call themselves jews are involved in these power nodes...

2. The 'not-guilty', or 'guilt by association' ones are <crickets> about the whole thing, OR, never pass up a moment to remind you about concentration camps, Romans, or evil Pharos [which I, francis_sawyer, had nothing to do with]...

3. That pseudo-intellectual liberals [who have nothing to do with jews], notwithstanding, seem to take delight in, & never pass up an opportunity to carry their water [as you are, consciously, or mindlessly doing here, & to which the handful of 'JUNKS' above are a testament]...

It's one big fat propaganda machine designed to make you feel guilty while they steal your money...

...and as for this idiot comment...

'or does Francis just want to hang anyone who is successful?'


What? You mean like the $100k+ a year:

- dentists who are shoving flouride in your mouth

- doctors who have you all ginned up on meds so they get backdoor kickbacks from big pharma

- 2nd tier doctors who suck fat out of your wifes ass to make her face look like an unholy Zsa Zsa Gabor/Arianna Huffington/Gloria Allred frankenbride

- Shrinks who turn your mind into Jacobs Ladder, then rape you

- Spooks who try to try to tunnel into every electronic backdoor to your privacy they can find, mostly illegally

- Cops, on pension, who spent years eating donuts, fantasizing on how to beat you silly with a nightstick

- lawyers who chase ambulances, or can't wait for you to divorce your wife, so they can give half to her, take a third for themselves, & keep you from ever seeing your own kids

- judges who find 'not guilty' verdicts for Libor riggers

- tenured professors preaching the Saul Alinsky methodology [while the institutions they represent are 'student loan debt factories' designed to produce lifelong slavery, indoctrination, while offering '7 years' of beer pong, dorm orgies, & the need to get away from all that stress & strife by spending a week trying to audition for the 'Girls Gone Wild in Cancun' video]

- lobbyists bribing Congress which results in your tax dollars being sent to help poor ol Israel & drone the shit out of brown people to steal the gold & oil from under their feet, & poppys from their fields

- MIC suppliers bringing every form of drone, surveillance, & Orwellian nightmare to reality

- Momo's raking 2&20 from you to 'get you in' to the S&P whilst keeping the likes of Bob PissOnMe & Maria Fartaromo gainfully getting THEIR $100k [as well as all the rest of the cheerleaders in all aspects of Media]

- Scientists at Monsanto genetically modifying seeds, which, for all anyone knows, are embedded with a eugenics, or 'Logan's Run' chromosome feature

- Geek a Zoids at Google & Facebook spying on you & turning your kids into gadget toting robots

- BANKSTERS enslaving you with debt

THOSE 'successful' people?

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 02:23 | 3444126 JOYFUL
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You'll get nowhere trying to refine your position in response to the above poster...

their purpose is not to seek clarity, but to retard it's arrival. No matter, we can use their own tools against them, because, unlike their self-reinforced perception of verbal and semantic superiority(a myth now all but accepted as gospel by the goy dupes they victimize!)our time well spent here increasingly marks the tide gone out for the talmudist hegemonist and fellow travellers...

who simply aren't up to much in the way of debating: let them exhaust their supply of hollow attack button phrases and suddenly their silence is deafening. In truth, these guys are anything but the sharper knives in the drawer...I suspect that too much indulgence in their warped forms of sexual gratification, combined with that unique tendency to extreme misogyny(at the same time as pushing their gender wars agenda upon us!)has worn down their functional synapses to a great and premature degree. Wankers and shell gamers...not much else goin on with yur average 'high IQ' sionistic sealot...

who absolutely melt down in a frenzy of frustration when defeated in debate! A raft of them have come aboard here in the last while, and are already scurrying like rats misinformed about the easy pickins to be found aboard the SS ZeroHedge! Taking back the debate is the very first step in taking back the country.

You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything, he's no longer in your power - he's free again. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Like our Russian brothers, we have been stripped naked of our power and possessions by the Bolshevik Talmudist hierarchy/ but also of our illusions...and are  free again to think and act in accordance with the need to survive and  to return our lineage to honor. Stick it to 'em Brother Francis.

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 02:48 | 3444143 francis_sawyer
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My favorite part about the 'pseudo-debates' is when they start criticizing the francis_sawyer method of syntax...


The '~~~' I use [to create an indent for page breaks]... bold, CAPS LOCK... Or even the 3 periods I use to punctuate [which has no real hidden agenda, but instead, I believe, makes it easier on the eye in reading & allowing long text blocks to sink in]...

When these [clears throat] 'exchanges' reach that moment, I realize that it's Hans Gruber firing bullets from a pistol whilst falling backwards out of the window of a 50 story building...

Yippie KaiYay motherfucker... [lol]


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 16:10 | 3442537 dontgoforit
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They help each other. Shouldn't we learn from them?

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 00:36 | 3444058 francis_sawyer
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If you're NOT 'them', you're <goy>... Not MY word, THEIR word...


So what is it, actually, that I'm supposed to 'learn' from them?

Sat, 04/13/2013 - 02:34 | 3444133 JOYFUL
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Learn to understand the nature of as to purge it from our presence.

Referring to the "dialectic" of Hegelian idealism or of Marxist dialectical materialism, Solzhenitsyn says that ideology, as in the various forms of National Socialist, Bolshevist, Zionist, the "Chosen People," or the "Master Race" ideologies, "is what gives evildoing its long-sought justification." It also "gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination. That is the social theory which helps make his acts seem good instead of bad in his own and others' eyes, so that he won't hear reproaches and curses but will receive praise and honors -   


Like "Antifaschismus" ("Anti-Fascism"), which is a "Machtstrategie" ("a Strategy of Power") and a form of strategic psychological warfare "Antisemitismus" (anti-Semitism) is a form of strategic and pre-emptive psychological warfare and a strategy of gaining (or increasing) power and immunity from criticism, as well as its lack of public accountability. It is, in any event, always important to look at what these Revolutionaries do, also what the Bolshevist Revolutionaries have done—even if they were Jews from their roots – Talmudic, Kabbalistic, Atheistic, or otherwise—and thus almost always full of contempt or hatred for Christianity and for Christian Civilization (East or West). Look at what they did—whoever the "they" is, to include the "Jewish Bolshevists" (from Trotsky-Bronstein to Kamenev to Yagoda and to Kaganovich). However, some would say that this matter is so taboo that you cannot even say that it is taboo! Such is the Forward March of Regress!
Robert Hickson\The Asphyxiation of German History

They are harsh teachers...but we of the west have been poor students/so the blame must be shared till we tire of shame...and bury these bastards in the rubble of their "revolutionary spirit."

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 15:28 | 3442328 resurger
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If we fire 2 Jooz, we can cut a hell lot of a cost.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:35 | 3442092 Cheeseus Sonofdog
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They won't let you. Try to dig one on the land you think you own. You won't get a permit. Do it anyways and zoning fines you. Have it well hidden and property taxes are stolen from you. You are not even free to dig a hole for your own corpse. Where is this freedom you speak of?

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:11 | 3441703 Rainman
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An underground tunnel still beats living above ground in West Philly....just sayin

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:13 | 3441705 dobermangang
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Tunnel cities?  Tent cities?  What are you talking about?  Hey, look Sheeple!  Look over there.......  Gay marriage!  Gun Control!  Women in Binders!  There's nothing to see here.  Please move along.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 13:21 | 3441743 web bot
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One of the truest #uckin comments that I've ever seen to drive home the point.


Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:09 | 3441953 Graph
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+ It's all Democrats / Republicans fault.

Fri, 04/12/2013 - 14:22 | 3442017 DaveyJones
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I love a gay woman with a gun.

and some marijuana

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