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Bird Flu Spreads To Beijing, Province Of Henan; Death Toll Rises To 13

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If China needed a deflationary boost (if only for chicken prices which will certainly result in inflation for all other food products, especially after the recent floating pig fiasco fades from memory), it certainly got it with the constantly escalating Bird Flu scare, which has resulted in 13 casualties of the 60 total infections reported so far, a mortality rate which at least to date is double that of the 2003 SARS epidemic, which claimed one in ten of the 8000 people it infected worldwide. What is most disturbing is that after being largely confined to the Yangtze River Delta, and primarily China's Shanghai business hub, the H7N9 epidemic spread to Beijing on Friday when the China Centre for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed that a seven year-old child in the capital of Beijing had been infected by the H7N9 bird flu virus, while on Sunday two people in the central Chinese province of Henan were reported infected - the first cases found in the region.

From Reuters:

Two people in the central Chinese province of Henan have been infected by a new strain of avian influenza, the first cases found in the region, while the death toll has risen to 13 from a total of 60 infections after two more deaths in Shanghai. One of the Henan victims, a 34-year old man in the city of Kaifeng, is now critically ill in hospital, while the other, a 65-year old farmer from Zhoukou, is stable. The two cases do not appear to be connected.


A total of 19 people in close contact with the two new victims were under observation but had shown no signs of infection, state news agency Xinhua said.


Three more victims were identified in Shanghai, China's business hub, bringing the total number of cases in the city to 24, with a total of nine deaths, state media said.


Three cases have now been reported outside the original clusters in eastern China, including one in the capital Beijing, but there is nothing out of the ordinary so far, the China representative of the World Health Organization said.


"There's no way to predict how it'll spread but it's not surprising if we have new cases in different places like we do in Beijing," Michael O'Leary told reporters. On Saturday, the China Centre for Disease Control and Prevention confirmed that a seven year-old child in the capital of Beijing had been infected by the H7N9 bird flu virus, the first case to be reported outside of the Yangtze river delta region in east China, where the new strain emerged last month.


The child's parents work in the poultry trade.

So far the source of the outbreak has still not been isolated, while the Chinese health ministry is doing its best to eliminate fears that the virus spreads from person to person despite a case where the husband of a H7N9 victum was recently infected. From SCMP:

China’s health ministry said on Saturday that there is still no indication of human-to-human transmission of the virus, which has already killed 11 people in Shanghai and the provinces of Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Anhui.


“That’s a key factor in this situation,” said O’Leary. “As far as we know, all the cases are individually infected in a sporadic and not connected way.”


The husband of a H7N9 victim in Shanghai was recently infected, but O’Leary said there was no cause for alarm.


“If there’s only very rare cases ... That’s different from the ease of transmission from person to person. It’s that ease of transmission that we are concerned about, and there’s no evidence of that yet.”

As always, the government cares only about one thing: avoiding a panic, even if it has no idea what is truly going on.

For those who wish to decide on their own based on the facts (that are publicly released), here is the latest map of bird flu infections and deaths.


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Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:51 | 3446687 Didn't build that
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what is it with PRC and flus?

SARS, h5n1, swine flu and now h7n9..makes one almost wonder if this is some chicom bio warfare gone out of hand....


in fact, it would be interesting to overlay the outbreak and spread of SARS and the earlier flus with the current H7N9 outbreak to look for patterns...

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:54 | 3446694 wee-weed up
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Dead chickens floating in the river yet?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:25 | 3446801 CH1
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I hope we all realize that some thousands die in a normal flu season.

13 deaths is a major freak-out?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:50 | 3446808 dick cheneys ghost
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Damn it....Bit-coins could have saved their lives.............they just didnt listen

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:57 | 3447135 Fish Gone Bad
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Just because the flu is very near and dear to my heart:


Fish Gone Bad

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:22 | 3447202 jbvtme
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1.3 billion and climbing.  why isn't this good news?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 22:51 | 3448394 prains
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13 dead is an average day in detroit

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:15 | 3447481 TraderTimm
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More accurate than you know - bitcoin is the virus from the internet that is infecting sovereign currencies worldwide, including the central banks. When they finally get off their asses and see a doctor, it will be too late - terminal case I'm afraid, while bitcoin spreads far and wide adding to its strength.

Good ideas often mimic a virus like that.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 19:07 | 3447742 dick cheneys ghost
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bit-coin is a ponzi

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:29 | 3446824 urbanelf
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13 death out of 60 infections?  We don't know where this is going, but I hope this ends up as just a freak-out.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:31 | 3447380 F-X
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I think we can assume there have been more than 60 infections. Most people don't go to the hospital when they get the flu. I don't know anyone who does. 

Mon, 04/15/2013 - 06:16 | 3448944 Parrotile
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They certainly do in Melbourne. The start of the Southern Hemisphere 'flu season is approaching, and the ED Waiting Rooms are already well populated by those with the sniffles - all convinced they've caught "Pandemic Influenza" - whatever that is!

Moral of the story - DON'T go to Hospital unless you really want to catch whatever's out there - or you are REALLY ill - in which case, we all wish you the best of luck, 'cause you're going to need it!!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:33 | 3447061 Wile-E-Coyote
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Umm yes a 22% mortality rate, ten times that of Spanish flu that killed upwards of 100 million people between 1918-20. Ok it has the legs to be a mass killer the question is how contageous is it.


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:52 | 3447285 ebworthen
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And China is probably second only to India as the perfect breeding ground for a killer virus to mutate and spread like wildfire.

Billions of chances for permutations leading to one which is lethal and highy communicable; then millions upon millions in high density poupulation centers.

It will get stateside before they can stop it.

My Great-Grandfather died in the Spanish Flu epidemic; it was truly horrific, and less than 100 years ago.

The species is way overdue for it.  I don't want it, just an observation.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:34 | 3447072 Sid James
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For most forms of Influenza with no pre-existing health problems, the mortality rate is less than a quarter of a percent, or about 1 in 400.

The average mortality rate for this outbreak is currently 20% - 25%.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 18:34 | 3447668 i-dog
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Oh, FFS, don't get sucked in by media scaremongering!! Here is the real deal on seasonal flu:

"about three to five million yearly cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 yearly deaths,"


Millions of cases every year (ie. around 1 million in China) with a mortality rate of 10% (ie. around 100,000 dead in China).

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 19:15 | 3447762 Tijuana Donkey Show
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I wonder how bad the impact on all the pollution and enviromental stressors in China has to do with the mortality rate, and how many people actually get it, and don't report it. 



Mon, 04/15/2013 - 06:22 | 3448953 Parrotile
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Major antigenic shift Influenza A is very different in morbidity and mortality to 'Flu A resulting from minor antigenic drift (to which most of the population has some (albeit variable) pre-exposure immunity.

Comparing morbidities and mortalities between seasonal, and truly pandemic, "Flu A is comparing apples with oranges.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:24 | 3446802 BLOTTO
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My name is Robert Neville. I am a survivor living in New York City.

I am broadcasting on all AM frequencies. I will be at the South Street Seaport everyday at mid-day, when the sun is highest in the sky. If you are out there... if anyone is out there... I can provide food, I can provide shelter, I can provide security. If there's anybody out there... anybody... please.

You are not alone.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:29 | 3446817 IridiumRebel
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Actually he'd be fucked cuz he would have no weapons to defend himself and would be turned into lunch around the third day. Bloomberg would be on an island in the Caribbean.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:45 | 3447102 JohnnyBriefcase
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Come out, Neville!


Book was better.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:34 | 3447224 Spider55
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No but dead bodies are

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:14 | 3447339 Son of Loki
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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - South Florida is fighting a growing infestation of one of the world's most destructive invasive species: the giant African land snail, which can grow as big as a rat and gnaw through stucco and plaster.

More than 1,000 of the mollusks are being caught each week in Miami-Dade and 117,000 in total since the first snail was spotted by a homeowner in September 2011, said Denise Feiber, a spokeswoman for the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.


Maybe we could send them some of these critters....I hear they taste like chicken.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:34 | 3447393 ForTheWorld
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Surely this is an escargo lovers dream?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:38 | 3447401 akak
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Well, there's one solution to the glut of vacant unsold and foreclosed Florida homes.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:53 | 3446695 FieldingMellish
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1.3bn people living in squalid close quarters. Infectious disease heaven.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:55 | 3446707 Bearwagon
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Wouldn't that be India?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:03 | 3446732 IridiumRebel
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Both areas combined provide the perfect human petrie dish for a nice pandemic. india and China are not known for cleanliness. It's a viral buffet. 

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:14 | 3446765 FieldingMellish
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Both are good.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:27 | 3446810 Divided States ...
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Doesnt China supply NK with food still? Maybe it spread to NK already (well they wont report anything there) which is why all the desperate talk coming from Piglet Jr.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:55 | 3447289 ebworthen
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Correct, made a comment above about China and India before I read these; great minds think alike.

If it mutates to a communicable form (human-to-human via droplets) it could be a much bigger killer than Spanish Flu.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:19 | 3446787 DeadFred
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India is largely vegetarian so they get to miss out on the honor of creating the plague that ends the world.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:12 | 3447176 resurger
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Am traveling to China this month, It was an honor to know you all.

my name is "resurger"

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:23 | 3446795 Matt
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1.3 billion people, along with their 5 billion chickens and 400 million pigs, living together in squalor. A nice loop for the viruses to get together, mingle. Like a crowded bar, but for diseases.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:57 | 3447570 Miffed Microbio...
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It's even worse than that. The coronovirus that causes SARS has been proven to come from Civet cats. Numerous cages of civet cats stacked on top of each other at the ground zero of that epidemic. Feces from one cage was dribbling down on cages below. Other exotic animals were present as well. This is viral recombination heaven. The Black Death which killed half of Europe started in China and worked its way around by way of the silk trade. This was a bacterial disease but many theorize there may have been a uniqueness to this strain of Yersinia pestis to cause it to be so highly virulent. Modern DNA analysis seems to support this but we can never be sure. The more you provide viruses the ability to recombine in other species you statistically increase the chances of a world pandemic. Not if but when. Pathogenicity seems to be often linked to squalid living conditions. The reason is theoretically believed to be the ability of virus spread. If people live far apart, the virulence tends to be low so people will interact thus transmitting the virus. If people live in close conditions the virus doesn't have a transmission problem so virulence tends to be high. During the Spanish flu, numerous troops were living in horrible unsanitary conditions and the virus spread wildly killing the young instead of the
elderly. Unfortunately we are due for a pandemic and it probably will come from China. Thanks to world travel it will start quickly and be uncontainable before anything can be done. So with that, have a good day, hug your love ones and appreciate all the joy in your life 'cause who knows what the future brings.


Mon, 04/15/2013 - 00:35 | 3448658 Oliver Klozoff
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And it's even worse than that!

An aquaintance showed me pictures last year of his visit to a large Southern Chinese city. He was returning from a shakedown visit from a year long work assignment.

Very hot conditions(just north of Hanoi) but the way animals are slaughtered-right in the street-open air restaurants packed with people who share spit, snot and sneezes during their meals, little kids shitting and pissing where they stand....he showed me a picture of typical market street, packed with people, along with this commentary "you would not believe the stench coming from that street".

The Chinese eat their food fresh, refrigeration is practically unheard of and rarely for food. The remains of the slaughtered animals lay on the street till the vendor closes then it's washed down the sewers. Most major buildings have bathrooms that consist of holes in the floor that you squat over to do your business.

Flies everywhere.

Terms like squalor and unsanitary have absolutely no meaning when applied to China.

BTW my acquaintance just returned stateside last week.


Mon, 04/15/2013 - 18:24 | 3453345 Parrotile
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From a bacterial evolutionary standpoint, our "modern" wastewater treatment plants are surely "Resistance Heaven", since (in general) whatever we put into our Patients will be excreted - and off to the Sewage Works - in a nicely diluted nutrient rich soup!

Add in a happy hunting ground for all the flavours of bacteriophage and things do start to look particularly rosy.

Looking on the bright side, H7N9 is spreading a lot more slowly than the pig / bat recombinant version they had in "Contagion"  - so maybe that's something to be happy about!!


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:49 | 3446901 Ban KKiller
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My chickens are fine. I took away their passports and gave them new bedding. Five chickens, hens, in 10x20 foot enclosure.


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:56 | 3447139 Kaiser Doomheiser
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It's not so much the PEOPLE living in squalid close quarters as it is the BIRDS. Intensive animal confinement...that's what causes these outbreaks. Another example of how mankind will sacrifice millions on the altar of its meat habit.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:00 | 3446716 Jack Burton
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China has the large scale pig, chicken and duck populations living in flithy conditions and in the presence of human populations in large numbers. These viruses play out between the animals cross infecting eachother and allowing large evolutionary changes. Pigs provide the channel to infect the humans and it all goes around in a circle. With time, new viruses devlope and can become lethal and more easy to transmit.

China is simply the perect crowded place for animal and human viruses to mix and develop. This will only get worse as human and animal populations grow and live closer and closer together.

Just as an aside, the diseases European brought to the New World that killed off most native Americans were caused by the habit of Europeans of living with their livestock over the long Europen winters. Europeans were loaded with specific viruses that spread and changed form animal to human. Native Americans did not live with domestic animals, they had NO immunity to these unique European diseases. The effect was unimaginable, death on a scale never seen before.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:26 | 3446804 Matt
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So what you're saying is, the Chinese, by way of culture, are developing a biowarfare program to better enable them to take over the world.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:40 | 3446864 Jack Burton
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No, they are the first victims of the nature of how they raise domestic animals for human consumption. This virus factory is of no benefit to Chinese, they will die first, as we see with this new strain of flue virus.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:02 | 3447153 Fish Gone Bad
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Congress can probably fix all this by making the flu illegal to own or transmit.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 21:01 | 3447962 StychoKiller
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When virii are outlawed...

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:07 | 3446742 rwe2late
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 The near certain explanation is the "factory" production of animals in cruel, crowded, unsanitary conditions, often coupled with the use of antibiotics "necessitated" by the unnecessarily vile conditions.

Everyone should be aware of the conditions in feedlots and poultry warehouses.

As for bio-warfare, I venture to calculate that the likelihood of a "chicom" bio accident is less than the possibility of something originating somewhere else. The US, with an extensive bio-warfare program, is known to have had accidents, as well as done intentional testing; the Japanese definitely practiced bio-warfare during WW2, etc. 

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:11 | 3446755 Bearwagon
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But ... but ... but ... those dudes from Fort Detrick told me, there's absolutely nothing to worry about!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:49 | 3446906 Pure Evil
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They were right. Cause once you're dead, your worries are over.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:06 | 3447161 Fish Gone Bad
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The dead are so lucky.  /humor


Mon, 04/15/2013 - 18:26 | 3453364 Parrotile
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Maybe that's why they are "The Grateful Dead"??

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:17 | 3446773 DeadFred
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The easiest way to get a new strain of influenza is for an individual (usually a pig) to catch human and bird flu at the same time so a mix-o-matic new recombinant strain can be formed from pieces of both viruses. What comes out of the mix is a never-before-seen strain that can evade the immunities we build up from exposure to older strains. China is the best place to create these strains since rural farms have chickens, ducks, pigs and humans living so close together. It's just a matter of time until we get the next strain with all the bad characteristics, deadly, easily transmitted human to human, and very little existing immunity in the human population. The virologists know it's coming but will it be this year, this decade or this century? Listening to these guys talk about the "big one" makes Tyler's preaching about the coming financial meltdown sound like a day in the park. There's a 100% chance the big one virus will set off the big one financial crisis or worse.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:23 | 3446798 Banksters
Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:47 | 3447422 strangewalk
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South China has long been the epicenter of pandemic flus, giving birth to three or four global outbreaks a century.

The Asian flu of 1957 and the Hong Kong flu of 1968 are both believed to have originated in southern China, while the Russian flu of 1977, which appeared in the city of Anshan, was widely thought to be a re-emergence of the 1957 flu.

And some experts, including Kennedy Shortridge, who worked in Hong Kong for many years and teaches at New Zealand's Auckland University, believe the Spanish flu of 1918 spread along the Chinese coast and was carried to America by Chinese immigrants.

That flu alone killed one in 60 of the world's people at the time.

All these flu pandemics can be traced to viruses caught from birds. Virologists believe the flu jumped species when ducks were domesticated in South China 3,000 years ago.

From a dated article titled, "Southern China--Petri Dish to the World", and quoted on both CNN and the Guardian. In fact, not a few epidemologists suspect that every flu strain that has ever existed has originated in China, just like the Black Death,  which killed half of China's population in the 14th century prior to being taken to Europe by an invading Chinese-Mongol army.   


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:48 | 3447555 DosZap
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And some experts, including Kennedy Shortridge, who worked in Hong Kong for many years and teaches at New Zealand's Auckland University, believe the Spanish flu of 1918 spread along the Chinese coast and was carried to America by Chinese immigrants.

Yep,and killed 18 million Americans.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 21:11 | 3447986 rosiescenario
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The farmers who raise pigs and poultry live in very close proximity to their animals that is why the swine fluand avian flu start out in China.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:50 | 3446688 maxmad
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This is not going to end well.... I can see that map full in a few days/weeks....

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:55 | 3446703 Bearwagon
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That should be good for a few hundred points higher DOW next week. Shirley!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:01 | 3447454 Henry Hub
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Don't call me Shirley!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:55 | 3446706 Kassandra
Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:58 | 3446710 paradism_
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So what's next in line, the H9N11 flu? Fucking LOL 

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:06 | 3446736 Motorhead
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9-11 flu?  Now, now.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:08 | 3446745 IridiumRebel
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Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:01 | 3447300 ebworthen
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HN911FEDAlgoHFTQE-DOJ flu (DOJ negative strain)

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 12:58 | 3446713 The Abstraction...
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I shall not be losing any sleep over this. Viruses come and go all the time, had 4 since November. It's the cure that kills you.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:03 | 3446733 Jack Burton
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In most cases you are right. But history shows that given time a virus will arise that has potential for mass killing. We are well overdue for this event. The last being back in 1919. Just a virus like all the others, but one that evolved a more deadly characteristic. It is a crap shoot really, when does a small evolutionary change in a flue virus make it a mega killer? It will happen, just that no one knows when.


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:26 | 3446809 Matt
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Was the 1919 flu really that much more deadly, or were people just more susceptible, what with the trench warfare and the malnutrition?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:33 | 3446837 The Abstraction...
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The Spanish Flu followed a mass vaccination campaign of soldiers returning from WWI. Think the dates are coincidental?


It is the cure that kills you.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:48 | 3446886 Jack Burton
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The mass movement of soldiers coming home from the war helped spread the virus at abnormal speeds. The virus itself was a new flue strain, the kind that tended to kill the young healthy adults with good immune systems. The Immune systems did the killing, a young child or older person with a weaker immune system had a better chance to survive. What happened was the strong immune reaction actually killed the person, not the viral infection itself. This is a hallmark of the most deadly forms of new virus strains. If the young healthy 25 year old drops dead, and grandma gets badly sick but recovers, then look out!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:04 | 3447308 ebworthen
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Very true.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:52 | 3447440 Rustysilver
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Most death in US occurred in the confined quarters in the Army training camps.  More soldiers die from flu than in the combat.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:38 | 3446852 wee-weed up
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Another thing to factor into any new deadly respiratory disease spread, that was not around in 1919, is today's global air travel.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:54 | 3446919 Jack Burton
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YES, air travel would make an infection explode with  lightning speed, almost like a bomb going off. One day America could be virus free, a week later they could be dropping dead like flies. That is why any new virus strain found to pass easliy from human to human and cause a higher than normal death rate would kill the airlines in a matter of days.

I would never go long air lines myself. For this very reason. You might do well for a few years, but I would never hold airlines long term. I mean it too, this is a real factor, it could happen in a big hurry should this new virus prove deadly and easily transmitted human to human. Airlines would be shut down by governments. This is actually the very FIRST measure that is recommended in a new outbreak.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:06 | 3446973 wee-weed up
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Or governments could prohibit their airline flights to suspect nations...

can you imagine the economic havoc if all flights to and from China were halted?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:07 | 3446986 The Abstraction...
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The UK has about 3 days of foods in each city to feed its people. Once the planes and ships stop, with only 50% food self-sufficiency, we would start seeing the dead pile up within two weeks of a national quarantine.

Government is the enemy, government is evil.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 19:23 | 3447789 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Engh, they can just do what plan B is in'Merica. Eat the others. We have plenty of fat in the land rolling around in Rascals.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:01 | 3446723 williambanzai7
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Red shows a H7N9 deaths
Blue shows a confirmed H7N9 infection.
Pink shows cases of different strains.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:31 | 3446830 realtick
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when the going gets weird...

i just posted a bird flu video to my blog this morning - bird flu in relation to the illuminati and the pittsburgh steelers if you can believe it

here's the link to the video


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:05 | 3446731 Smegley Wanxalot
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The world will only be a better place once we rid it of birds!


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:07 | 3446743 Motorhead
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Let's rid the world of slimy banksters and politicians first.  Birds are cool (until they shit on you).

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:04 | 3447314 ebworthen
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Let's start with the Starlings, frickin' rats with wings.

Maybe we can choke banksters with them, three or four per ought to do it.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:04 | 3446734 sangell
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NHK says Japanese tests Tamiflu and Relenza are effective against this virus but don't the Chinese have pharmacies too so why a 1 in 4 mortality rate?


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:09 | 3447322 ebworthen
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Because the Pharmaceutical companies want to sell a lot of Tamiflu and Relenza.

Keep the populace calm and offer a palliative while making money hand over fist.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:22 | 3447354 Zer0head
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Tamiflu resistant I am afraid to say


Now what we need is some confirmed human to human in multiple locations and perhaps a sprinkling of cases in oZ, eu and USA



Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:05 | 3446737 Waterfallsparkles
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Dirty Air, Dirty Water, Dirty farming conditions for livestock.  Is it any wonder they are having problems.

It almost makes one happy that all of the poluting of the air and water thru Manufacutring is there and not here.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:51 | 3446909 akak
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Where, oh where, is AnAnonymous when he would be most entertaining, trying to justify and apologize for the faults and idiocies inherent in his antheap of humanity society?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:05 | 3446739 EvlTheCat
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wow.... 13 fucking people... wake me up when its 13000 people. You will have a story and a epademic..

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:09 | 3446753 Motorhead
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And what's 13,000 people out of 1.3 billion?  0.001% or something of Chinese population?  But I agree...13 people ain't shit.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:22 | 3446768 EvlTheCat
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Everyone has a threshold for attention span.  Mine is above 10,000.  Any lower and the alcohol in my blood suppresses a surprise reaction.  And its "Epidemic" for the clod who posted above you.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3446865 rwe2late
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 You miss the point. It's not about how few died this time.

 Travel, raising animals in crowded, filthy conditions, factory farms and concentrated feedlots, misuse of antibiotics, growth of human population now combine to set the stage for a global plague.

The best solution, to raise animals in better conditions, eliminating a need for antibiotics is in conflict with the prevalent economics of increasing profits by ignoring costs which cannot be readily monetized.

Thus, the current response is  a losing strategy limited to attempting the quarantining of outbreaks in the incipient stage.

That means there will be many false alarms, with even possibly some successful quarantining -- until there is an failure to stop an inevitable real outbreak.


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:02 | 3447145 EvlTheCat
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Point was not lost on me.  I just spent a month in rural Colombia on a farm.  Central planning is killing civilization in the name of bureaucratic tax dollars.  Again. Lather , rinse, repeat.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:13 | 3446741 Kirk2NCC1701
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Lemme see... 1 in 10 died, of the 8000 infected? That's 800 ppl. Sid that help slow their population growth, or make for good news ratings? Is it different this time?

Don't we regularly get that many dead in Chicago, Detroit and DC in a month?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:13 | 3446762 Bingfa
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Yeah, I've yet to see any Legislation that would remove illegal guns from Blacks/Hispanics so Obama's cult is getting smaller by the month.....

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:10 | 3446752 Bingfa
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Civil war battle lines being drawn as Magpul, Colt, Beretta, and others relocate....

"By the way, private individuals are buying up hundreds of millions of rounds of ammo each week, vastly out-pacing DHS stockpiling. On top of that, there's also the fact that brain-dead DHS employees are too stupid to know how to use firearms effectively in the first place. If DHS hands all their stockpiled guns to TSA agents, for example, they're far more likely to shoot off their own toes than wage anything resembling a tactical war. They would be almost instantly out-maneuvered and out-gunned by veterans, hunters, sheriff's deputies and privately-trained citizens."

What do you think?


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:43 | 3446877 IridiumRebel
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I pray it would never come to this, but I would place my money on "we the people". Those fatasses would be swiss cheese. However, the real logistical problem is the unmanned weapon. They tend to not be containing critical thought.

While unmanned vehicles are mostly associated with aircraft and aerial drones, a growing number of unmanned ground vehicles are also being developed for use by militaries around the world. The Black Knight is one of the most sophisticated of the unmanned ground combat vehicles, and its development is at an advanced phase. In 2010, the U.S. Army was putting the vehicle through a series of evaluations.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:52 | 3446916 Bingfa
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That was pretty cool....

I think a lot of what they're doing is scare tactics because nobody could be that stupid....Obama is a bullshitting, lying, scapegoating halfwit who is only really speaking to the people that are getting something free from him.

Everyone else tunes him out.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 22:01 | 3448118 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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They can be hijacked, not all weapons need to be guns. You just need to take over the communication channel. I'm sure when the American Spring starts those pesky Iranians will make the methods for doing so widely known.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:40 | 3447246 fattail
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All of the tsa agents I've seen are fat, lazy, or dumb, sometimes all three.  if obama is counting on those losers to be the gestapo strikeforce kicking down doors he is deluded.  

if you remember , fema couldn't get bottled water to thirsty people a week after sandy.  I'm not worried about those losers.  

i don't know about dhs employees i suspect they are more capable and probably a better trained group with a background in law enforcement or military.

tsa is just an urban make work program for the marginally employable .



Sun, 04/14/2013 - 18:36 | 3447675 Jam Akin
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I'd be more concerned about "contractors" (both foreign and domestic) who gained experience in the past decade plus of conflicts around the world.  There are a fair number of 'em in need of "work" who are proficient/deadly.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 22:02 | 3448125 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Speaking of the TSA apparently the Zucker Brothers had them pegged all those years ago in Airplane II. Hilarious but sad commentary on airport security in general.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:12 | 3446760 Waterfallsparkles
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Always check your food labels and canned goods for food raised or processed in China.  It could be worth your life.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:00 | 3446951 Jack Burton
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I have a friend that bought some frozen raspberries, he loves them. He put a load of these berries on some ice cream and ate the lot. In a few hours he was so sick he wanted to die. He checked the label of the berry package," contains products of China."

Imagine, living in America, the worlds richest agricultural lands, and buy berries and get poison shit berries from China. You also find these berries coming from Mexico, where the human sewers are run right out to the berry fields. Yum, Yum! Sooo Good to eat! Fuck! All to increase the profit margine a penny a package. Fuck!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:12 | 3446761 freeasabee1
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excellent, germ doom is on!!!!!

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:16 | 3446772 geologyguy
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Once the dead start getting up, walking around & eating people...I will be worried.

Onto more ammunition purchasing...

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:16 | 3446779 Burt Gummer
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Now it's in Germany, New Flu that causes hemorrhagic Fever and organ failure now in Germany.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:37 | 3446843 Normalcy Bias
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Sun, 04/14/2013 - 13:59 | 3446954 PUD
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Only arrogant man thinks he has dominion over the earth. Bacteria and viruses are the true rulers..always have been, are now and most likely always will be.  Only a matter of when not if...

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:05 | 3446967 Jack Burton
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They got here first. They survived much longer than us. The faster population grows, the more vectors for disease. This works in animal populations. Our area was infested with mass overpopulation of white tail deer, In a matter of a couple years several new diseases sprang up and are now killing them off. Trouble is it may spread to the native Moose populations and those are already in trouble from tick infections and warmer summers that these big guys can't tolerate.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:33 | 3447062 q99x2
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Send them Rumsfeild and TamaFlu

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:39 | 3447083 Sid James
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Tamiflu is reported to be not very effective against this current strain, Relenza seems to work better.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 14:49 | 3447114 Hongcha
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A good (viral) thread.  It's not just the squalor and filth and crowded conditions and rotting food dressed back up and pressed into service because of rampant inflation in China; that's old-fashioned -- it's also the chemicals in the air and the toxic factory runoff in the polluted waterways. 

Every body of water in China is polluted.  Local inspectors are paid to look the other way and the factories dump it wherever they can get away with it.  The Chinese have truly fucked up their environment on a grand scale.

I know a number of mainlanders who appear have it all - half a dozen 'villas' in Beijing or Shanghai, driving black Audis with tinted windows, several mistresses, waited on hand & foot.  Then one day they wake up and find their viscera are shot through with invasive cancer, at age 40.  Happens all the time over there.  The numbers are suppressed easily because the Party owns the media, Mandarin and English language, all of it. 

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 19:33 | 3447806 Aurora Ex Machina
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Might want to look up why Nixon invented the EPA there sport. Then look over to tar sands, fracking and water tables.




It ain't rocket science there Charlie.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:02 | 3447149 jjsilver
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Chinese colonel says latest bird flu virus is U.S. biological weapon

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:15 | 3447179 Sid James
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Was it Colonel Sanders?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 18:43 | 3447691 Jam Akin
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Colonel Krink

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:15 | 3447178 Sid James
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A magnitude 5.2 jolted Fukushima Prefecture and its vicinity Sunday evening

So, bird flu or radiation. Bird flu or radiation. Hmmm...

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 22:06 | 3448154 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Radiation to kill off the bird flu.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:31 | 3447216 earleflorida
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"Robotic Chicken Deboning & Butcher" @ Popular Science [3/2013 -- 6/2011]

*processing up to 2000+/+ whole chickens per hour, perhaps moar, never having human contact.     note: comment section below gives great insight into the proliferation of such altruistic machinery/technology for the globe

and, ** [dated]

just maybe the chinese should invest in this technology... or maybe they have already, but, one thing is for certain-- it eliminates all bacteria. *** But, and it's a big 'BUT'... it serves no purpose if the chickens are pre-contaminated, jus sayin

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:00 | 3447291 Hongcha
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This article mentions Kaifeng.  A very important historical city.  I was there last year for one rainy day.  The lake area, the only charm in the town, was completely fenced around, 15 feet high and opaque fencing, and the local gang was charging $15 a head to get in. 

This is what they have done to every important/beautiful site in the country; ringed it with a fence and converted the old towns and their hapless inhabitants into human zoos and put up 20' high plastic Mickey Mouses and 40' x 40' HDTV screens in what used to be the quiet town squares so the residents can be treated to retail advertising ALL DAY LONG AND IT CANNOT BE ESCAPED.

Speaking of Henan, do a search for the Feng Feng district; polluted beyond belief, like an open grave.  But hey, the farm boys are driving BMWs with tinted windows and getting drunk on Maotai at noon while the chemical cos. mine their corn fields.

China is well and truly fucked.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 15:59 | 3447298 Lord Koos
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In a nation of over 1,000,000,000 people, 13 deaths.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:04 | 3447460 Kiss My Iceland...
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13 people probably die each 10 minutes from Beijing air pollution.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:08 | 3447324 Son of Loki
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Ok, first we get irradiated from Japan and now we get Bird Flu from China?

Can't we send them something in return?

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:18 | 3447346 Sid James
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Windows 8. Revenge is a turkey dish best served cold.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 22:14 | 3448197 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Actually China is going to fuck Microsoft and Apple completely. The can force the machine manufacturers to only sell computers with this in their country. Think of how much business microsoft is going to lose over this.

Canonical's Ubuntu platforms are set for a huge boost after the Chinese government chose the OS to form the basis for its new "open and standardised operating system." The announcement comes as part of the government's five year plan to accelerate the development and promote open-source software in the country, which it hopes will reduce the reliance on Microsoft and Apple platforms.

Initially, Canonical and CISP will work with the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT) to release a new desktop version of Ubuntu — codenamed Kylin — in April, which will include apps and features which are focused on the Chinese market. There are already plans to integrate Baidu maps, enable links to Chinese shopping service Taobao, and allow payment processing by Chinese banks, incorporating local elements not found in Windows or Mac OS.

China also plans to expand beyond the desktop and use Ubunutu for servers, on mobile devices, and in the cloud. This could go some way to combat the dominance of Android in China, after a report from the Chinese Ministry of Industry and Information Technology expressed concern at Android's control of its smartphone market. Two weeks after the report was published, the Chinese government has made positive changes to alter the desktop computing and mobile landscape in the country.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 16:59 | 3447447 Kiss My Iceland...
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13 people dead in a country of 1 billion. Scary stuff !

Oops ... just read a prior comment. Sorry for the dupe ....


Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:47 | 3447536 DosZap
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China has asked for specialists from outside China to come and help them stop this potential epidemic.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 17:51 | 3447560 Zer0head
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13 deaths is squat however 1313 is a different story, and that is the blackswan storyline, in fact if it becomes 132 lookout below or should I say above

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 18:14 | 3447628 jekah
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From Google Earth:

52-year-old wife, retiree, fell sick on March 27, died on April 3. Her husband, 56, fell sick on April 1, hospitalised on April 3, diagnosed as infected with H7N9 virus on April 11.
Health authorities say unable so far to determine if this was a human-to-human transmission case.

She died in 8 days (assuming the "fell sick" date is accurate); the diagnosis takes... 8 days. That's encouraging.

It seems to be affecting individuals from multiple age groups. The people who stop at death/population ratio are making a mistake. It's all about how contagious this thing is. If it is, things could get a bit tense.

Sun, 04/14/2013 - 21:52 | 3448088 WallowaMountainMan
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darn good resolution, even for google earth...

so, was she like, not human?


most folks here find "a bit tense" relaxing.

retiree, at 52? no wonder she fell sick.

died in 8 days? camera hog. most die right at the end of their life. unless they are on a soap opera.

he's surviving? crap, good health pays off, after all. and he got his wife to work hard enough to retire at 52 and he lives. way to go dude!

silver linings everywhere.

glasses available at walmart.

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