Agreed. As more and more time passes I realize she was telling the truth. We really did have to pass it to find out what's in it.
When Obamacare hits next year you may not believe what you find in it. It's gonna be a shit-storm, based on conversation I've had about it so far with benefits companies, business owners, etc.
I've seen the skies darken and I've heard the thunder. It is natural to expect rain shortly after.
Oh no, quite the contrary. 100 million new 3rd worlders that refuse to speak engles will jumpstart our economy. Reinvigorate our family values, and vote Republican lock, stock and barrel.
a) read all 1500 pages of bill b) read face value of cash and campaign contributions regarding said bill c) consider impact upon own reelection chances given newly established guidelines of terming "illegal aliens" as "unregistered Democrats"
I want to see if they actually throw some harball questions at Janet Napolitano, to see if she actually read the damned bill before commenting on it, during her session with Congress.
In your head I want you to imagine a picture of a bunch of congressmen busily rushing back to their offices saying "I GOTA read that bill! It's important I understand it! It's important to the entire nation we get this right!"
You're laughing now, right? Because you know it ain't like that.
Makes sense, so if by chance they are arrested and charged for treason in the future they can claim illiteracy as a defense, or what the lawyers call plausible deniability.
Lol.. This is to give Big Sis time to read (ie: given her Talking Points). She is the only one scheduled to appear before committee to discuss. Another huge farce.. Prepare to be bent over.
There are no more wetbacks because global warming caused the Rio Grande to dry up. Further, all those bridges to nowhere actually were bridges to Mexico, but no one wanted to admit it.
And these Senators will not read it..they will ask a staffer to read it and give them the points they want to know about.....and those depend on what side of the asile you are on..a total joke...but lots of campaign contributions to be made on this....get the begging letters out...
Hey Doc: I finally "backed the truck up" on Friday and again today....but delivery wont be for two weeks!!
Per your recent response to my question, I wonder if April 15th will be the day considered the catalysts for when physical and paper began their divergence?
"Disney lawyers in California signed off on the text before it was flown to Tallahassee where, without changing a word, Florida’s compliant legislators enacted it into law. “No one thought of reading it,” one ex-lawmaker later remarked."
No wait, they should just "pass the bill to see what's in it."
But then I can already tell you what's in it:
1) The big corps that own and run the US will get their cheap (exempt from the regs, etc.) and beholden workers (slaves).
2) The pols will get their politically beholden "voters." Much like niggers (ignorant, subsidized and coddled black people) and seniors.
3) The pols and crats will get their "it's their-fault" class-warfare distraction. "Juan took your job and is preventing you from getting that 'lawncare' job."
Never mind that Congress is the one that, with the banksters, destroyed the American economy and ran up the "price" of workers in the first place.
I'm long guillotines and am going into the masonry wall patching business. hujel
Gee, wonder what's added to this bill that will screw us all, yet has nothing to with immigration reform? I still can't play online poker in the land of the free, home of the brave because of nonsense like this.
to ignore the immigration laws already on the books; to allow illegal aliens to be absorbed into and "utilize" the system with absolutely no consequences
Members....right. They will never read these bills. More likely their interns can't tell them coherently what is in the bill so THEY need more time. Not that they care, but I guess they need to make sure it won't cause problems with the Hispanic vote.
It can be difficult to read with your steamed spectacles bouncing around your rosacea-ridden shnoz whilst spanking another naughty intern, even after many terms of practice.
Bill Gates' need to enhance profits by bringing in foreign workers to pull down compensation and work opportunities for US engineers and computer programmers continues unabated. Everyone knows, of course, that the H-1b visa program, regularly and substantially abused by most of the companies participating in it, is nothing but Congress's gift to corporate lobbyists who reward “our representatives” in ways that American citizens could never do. America's jobs and her people's standard of living have never been more "For Sale."
MyVisaJobs. Com Immigration blog
WASHINGTON—For the first time since 2008, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has reached the statutory H-1B cap of 65,000 for fiscal year (FY) 2014 within the first week of the filing period. USCIS has also received more than 20,000 H-1B petitions filed on behalf of persons exempt from the cap under the advanced degree exemption.
USCIS received approximately 124,000 H-1B petitions during the filing period, including petitions filed for the advanced degree exemption. On April 7, 2013, USCIS used a computer-generated random selection process (commonly known as a “lottery”) to select a sufficient number of petitions needed to meet the caps of 65,000 for the general category and 20,000 under the advanced degree exemption limit. For cap-subject petitions not randomly selected, USCIS will reject and return the petition with filing fees, unless it is found to be a duplicate filing.
The agency conducted the selection process for advanced degree exemption petitions first. All advanced degree petitions not selected were part of the random selection process for the 65,000 limit.
As announced on March 15, 2013, USCIS has temporarily adjusted its premium processing practice. To facilitate the prioritized data entry of cap-subject petitions requesting premium processing, USCIS will begin premium processing for H-1B cap cases on April 15, 2013.
USCIS will continue to accept and process petitions that are otherwise exempt from the cap. Petitions filed on behalf of current H-1B workers who have been counted previously against the cap will not be counted towards the congressionally-mandated FY 2014 H-1B cap. Accordingly, USCIS will continue to accept and process petitions filed to:
·extend the amount of time a current H-1B worker may remain in the U.S.;
·change the terms of employment for current H-1B workers;
·allow current H-1B workers to change employers; and
·allow current H-1B workers to work concurrently in a second H-1B position.
U.S. businesses use the H-1B program to employ foreign workers in specialty occupations that require theoretical or technical expertise in specialized fields including, but not limited to: scientists, engineers, or computer programmers.
Mandate every non-emergency, non-self defense bill be written in the legislators' own hand...
Might just stop these several hundred-thousand page bills that are basically put together by special interests and forwarded to their bought congressman. Might also get our moneys worth out of our congress.
Now hold on thar, if dem congress critters spend all der time reading dis here bill, den how dey gonna have time to read dat 5000 page gun control bill.
(if you need 1500 pages to grant amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens, then you'll probably need 5000 pages of arcane rules to limit Americans 2nd Admendment rights.)
Why: why am i posting this? look closely at the timelines, and tell the american people how much their lives have improved. sorry, but these immigration programs are going to make middle class a minority and the latino's the majority, period!
rubio is a charlatan, a POS!!! he has been bought and paid for a dozen times!
we can't continue to give the country away to these 'undocumented's'? think of nat'l security,... think of how they lower the wage for working americans? what they do is send our dollars [ money] back to mexico in exchange for peso's with duel citizenship. where's the fucking benefit. they lower the living wage and work for minimum while sucking our great country dry.
fuck these illegals,... that undercut our standard of living-- vote without showing id's democratic!
the republican's don't stand a chance?-- and what we'll see for the next 20'years is a one party system run by the likes of obama and rubio!
Go back to mexico or california where you think it's yours, to begin with you parasitic scum???
This banker-hijacked government is going to keep going until it’s all gone. They are going to bring Mexico into the United States and they are going to make all Americans pay for it.
The end result will be total devastation for both countries, as America's debt continues to skyrocket. This total bankruptcy of Americans is designed to push America into the financial piranhas' "new world order."
Americans either abolish the Federal Reserve or they will face head on the economic terrorism and totalitarian solutions the globalists have planned to meet the crises our banker-owned politicians have wrought.
Better just to pass the legislation without reading it. Better yet, pass a bill that hasn't been written yet. That way, they can just change it to meet whatever needs the legislators may require.
The Jose Trevino trial began today - he's the brother of the leader of the Mexican drug cartel los Zetas. Besides the usual laundering avenues through HSBC and Wells Fargo, they also took to laundering via horse raising in Oklahoma, inconspicuously naming one of their stallions Number One Cartel.
The Zetas are former Mexican spec ops trained by Americans, and they've been fighting their former employers, the Gulf Cartel, for the past several years. They are now also at war with the Sinaloa Cartel, run by Joaquin "Shorty" Loera of Forbes 100 fame.
Because this time reading is actually required by humans
Understanding is an entirely different matter.
so that members have time to ... park their golf carts and turn on their iPads.
... and figure out how their portfolios will be affected so as to make the correct trades prior to approval.
... and leaking the information to their Wall Street buddies.
What kind of foolishness is that?
Everybody knows, like Nancy Pelosi says, that you have to pass legislation to know what’s in it.
Obama wants to carefully read it twice.
I wonder why all of a sudden they are going to start reading the bills that they vote on. Something strange in the air!
Are they gonna be able to read all 1500 pages, or will they need pictures of Dick and Jane to explain it to them.
Lucy.....you got some splainin' to do!
Pelosi would have never allowed this travesty occur!
Agreed. As more and more time passes I realize she was telling the truth. We really did have to pass it to find out what's in it.
When Obamacare hits next year you may not believe what you find in it. It's gonna be a shit-storm, based on conversation I've had about it so far with benefits companies, business owners, etc.
I've seen the skies darken and I've heard the thunder. It is natural to expect rain shortly after.
From what I've read, they're still writing the regulations as speak.
variation to your post MagicHandPuppet I was about to post "what makes this bill different from all the others?"
Mexican voice..
Bill....We don't need to read no stinking bill...
about damn time they decided to read a bill BEFORE voting
and since this will add 100 milluion people over 20 years they will actually need to not only read it, but think about it and understand it
and then vote against it
Are we short of low information voters again?
Oh no, quite the contrary. 100 million new 3rd worlders that refuse to speak engles will jumpstart our economy. Reinvigorate our family values, and vote Republican lock, stock and barrel.
disagree on family values, immigrants usually have lots of
When will we stop caring what treasonous people think about treasonous bills?
when they arent in charge
Choice:
a) read all 1500 pages of bill
b) read face value of cash and campaign contributions regarding said bill
c) consider impact upon own reelection chances given newly established guidelines of terming "illegal aliens" as "unregistered Democrats"
correct answers: b), c)
Correction: Undocumented Democrats.
As well all know, there are definitely all registered.
hey mon.. you know when I got d' driver license with my utility beel por ID. they ask me eef i wan to sign up for the motor votor.
I say OK.. they wan me to.. so I go vote for moar of thees great Democrat stuff... you know?
@ACP: Especially the dead ones!
I want to see if they actually throw some harball questions at Janet Napolitano, to see if she actually read the damned bill before commenting on it, during her session with Congress.
I fail to understand why they're called Undocumented Democrats, when its been documented that they vote for Democrats.
What they should be called is first time democrat voters. And, then after that, slaves on the Democrat plantation.
Move over African-Americans, you're about to become even more insignificant than you were previously.
I am confident that a certain percentage of the senate does not even have the capacity to read a bill.
Would you like to hazard a guess of about 100%?
WTF? How is this NOT another one of those "We need to pass it, so we can find out what's in it" bills?
Our exalted leaders might actually be doing......(gulp), Work?
Christ, add that to what's happening in the markets, and there can be no doubt:
THE END IS NIGH!
It's for appearance sake only.
In your head I want you to imagine a picture of a bunch of congressmen busily rushing back to their offices saying "I GOTA read that bill! It's important I understand it! It's important to the entire nation we get this right!"
You're laughing now, right? Because you know it ain't like that.
I bet that most of the shitbags in congress couldn't even make it through a Harry Potter book.
The mag title is missing the words "steaming turd" in between.
And it is so hard to to read when your head is planted up the banksters ass.
Why?
and by read they mean take inventory of their own personal immigrants working at their homes
What percent of the Senate can read?
None I think ,there were no returned questonaires with that on it.
Their aides read it to them at bedtime.
If they could read, some might have read the Constitution. Based on their actions, none have read it because none can read.
Makes sense, so if by chance they are arrested and charged for treason in the future they can claim illiteracy as a defense, or what the lawyers call plausible deniability.
Well, hopefully the judge adjudicating the trial will remember that Ignorance of the Law is no excuse.
Did I just hear someone say, "Get a rope"?
They have people for that.
Are they Mexican?
Lol.. This is to give Big Sis time to read (ie: given her Talking Points). She is the only one scheduled to appear before committee to discuss. Another huge farce.. Prepare to be bent over.
I was beginning to wonder if anyone was going to come up with this obvious conclusion.
Congress actually reading a bill?
Might actually be end times.
Monkeys...
Read 1 in English;
2 in Spanish;
3 in Mandarin;
4 in Urdu...
...you get the idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJ4MghTi9U
reading rainbow
Don't they have to pass it first?
We need to pass the bill , to find out how many wetbacks are in it.
There are no more wetbacks because global warming caused the Rio Grande to dry up. Further, all those bridges to nowhere actually were bridges to Mexico, but no one wanted to admit it.
Why the change in protocal?
And these Senators will not read it..they will ask a staffer to read it and give them the points they want to know about.....and those depend on what side of the asile you are on..a total joke...but lots of campaign contributions to be made on this....get the begging letters out...
Time to read ZH and call their brokers is more like it.
Stink and stinkier.
I thought they read it after they were told which way to vote.
"Ain't nobody got time for dat'!!!!!"
-Sweet Brown
Then the smokes got me lord jeeesus
Congress critters can read? I thought those drugged up pedophiles just signed an "X" and crawled back to their holes.
Hey Doc: I finally "backed the truck up" on Friday and again today....but delivery wont be for two weeks!!
Per your recent response to my question, I wonder if April 15th will be the day considered the catalysts for when physical and paper began their divergence?
Cheers
Nothing new. Interesting article BTW...
"Disney lawyers in California signed off on the text before it was flown to Tallahassee where, without changing a word, Florida’s compliant legislators enacted it into law. “No one thought of reading it,” one ex-lawmaker later remarked."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/14/how-the-cia-helped-disn...
"We need to open this Pandora Box to know what's in it"
Nancy P.
Pandora: "You worry about your own damn box, bitch."
Pelosi has a box? I always thought she was one of those genderless Greys from Sigma 4X.
Somehow that is less offensive.
They want to make sure ALL THE DRACONIAN GUN LAWS ARE IN THE BILL....... The only reason I can think of why THIS TIME they want to read the BILL..
They can have mine when they beat me on the battlefield. hujel
Every one said something epic was coming there it is: Senators reading a bill !
Standing in the halls of the Russell Senate Office Building, one reporter states he heard the following:
"WHO THE HELL HAS THE TIME TO READ 1500 PAGES?"
Standing in the halls of the Russell Senate Office Building, one reporter states he heard the following:
"WHO THE HELL HAS THE TIME TO READ 1500 PAGES?"
Make TIME you useless POS.THAT attitude is exactly what got us here.
Last time we got Bawney Fwanked because WE had NO say.
If the GOP alllows this to go thru, it will destroy them as a party forever.
Actually, that's a valid point. (IIRC, Glass-Steagall Act was only about 37 pages.)
Gee...the country is turning to chum faster than a spinning dreidel. Why stop and read about the agenda now?
Why spoil a perfect record?
They never bothered before!
Reading? Who has time for reading anymore? It didn't matter in the past before a vote, so why start now?
I HONESTLY doubt more than 10% of the blacks in The House can read.
They want to make sure it states they can rip out the gold coins sewn into immigrants clothes with impunity.
We must pass the law so the people who do not follow the law will follow the law.
Read the bill? Blasphemy!!!
As opposed to Brussels where NOBODY READS ANY BILL...
No wait, they should just "pass the bill to see what's in it."
But then I can already tell you what's in it:
1) The big corps that own and run the US will get their cheap (exempt from the regs, etc.) and beholden workers (slaves).
2) The pols will get their politically beholden "voters." Much like niggers (ignorant, subsidized and coddled black people) and seniors.
3) The pols and crats will get their "it's their-fault" class-warfare distraction. "Juan took your job and is preventing you from getting that 'lawncare' job."
Never mind that Congress is the one that, with the banksters, destroyed the American economy and ran up the "price" of workers in the first place.
I'm long guillotines and am going into the masonry wall patching business. hujel
Read... wha?
And where the heck is George W.?
QUICK! HOW DO I INVEST IN "HOOKED ON PHONICS"????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtJLAWXO5vY
I saw the girl that was hooked on it, though.
Gee, wonder what's added to this bill that will screw us all, yet has nothing to with immigration reform? I still can't play online poker in the land of the free, home of the brave because of nonsense like this.
as-sim-i-late
transitive verb
to take in and utilize; absorb into the system
as-sim-mi-gration
passive verb
to ignore the immigration laws already on the books; to allow illegal aliens to be absorbed into and "utilize" the system with absolutely no consequences
Members....right. They will never read these bills. More likely their interns can't tell them coherently what is in the bill so THEY need more time. Not that they care, but I guess they need to make sure it won't cause problems with the Hispanic vote.
Hang them all.
I can read & study a 2,000-page document in a day... no problem
Signed,
Nancy P.
I took a speed reading course. Read War and Peace in an afternoon. Its about Russia. - Woody Allen
It can be difficult to read with your steamed spectacles bouncing around your rosacea-ridden shnoz whilst spanking another naughty intern, even after many terms of practice.
Everyone in the US will have to carry their "papers" may be in this bill.
Everyone in the US will have to carry their "papers" may be in this bill.
Bill Gates' need to enhance profits by bringing in foreign workers to pull down compensation and work opportunities for US engineers and computer programmers continues unabated. Everyone knows, of course, that the H-1b visa program, regularly and substantially abused by most of the companies participating in it, is nothing but Congress's gift to corporate lobbyists who reward “our representatives” in ways that American citizens could never do. America's jobs and her people's standard of living have never been more "For Sale."
MyVisaJobs. Com Immigration blog
WASHINGTON—For the first time since 2008, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has reached the statutory H-1B cap of 65,000 for fiscal year (FY) 2014 within the first week of the filing period. USCIS has also received more than 20,000 H-1B petitions filed on behalf of persons exempt from the cap under the advanced degree exemption.
USCIS received approximately 124,000 H-1B petitions during the filing period, including petitions filed for the advanced degree exemption. On April 7, 2013, USCIS used a computer-generated random selection process (commonly known as a “lottery”) to select a sufficient number of petitions needed to meet the caps of 65,000 for the general category and 20,000 under the advanced degree exemption limit. For cap-subject petitions not randomly selected, USCIS will reject and return the petition with filing fees, unless it is found to be a duplicate filing.
The agency conducted the selection process for advanced degree exemption petitions first. All advanced degree petitions not selected were part of the random selection process for the 65,000 limit.
As announced on March 15, 2013, USCIS has temporarily adjusted its premium processing practice. To facilitate the prioritized data entry of cap-subject petitions requesting premium processing, USCIS will begin premium processing for H-1B cap cases on April 15, 2013.
USCIS will continue to accept and process petitions that are otherwise exempt from the cap. Petitions filed on behalf of current H-1B workers who have been counted previously against the cap will not be counted towards the congressionally-mandated FY 2014 H-1B cap. Accordingly, USCIS will continue to accept and process petitions filed to:
· extend the amount of time a current H-1B worker may remain in the U.S.;
· change the terms of employment for current H-1B workers;
· allow current H-1B workers to change employers; and
· allow current H-1B workers to work concurrently in a second H-1B position.
U.S. businesses use the H-1B program to employ foreign workers in specialty occupations that require theoretical or technical expertise in specialized fields including, but not limited to: scientists, engineers, or computer programmers.
http://www.myvisajobs.com/Blog/post/US-employers-filed-124000-h1b-visa-petitions-in-5-days!.aspx
Mandate every non-emergency, non-self defense bill be written in the legislators' own hand...
Might just stop these several hundred-thousand page bills that are basically put together by special interests and forwarded to their bought congressman. Might also get our moneys worth out of our congress.
In their own blood!
They haven't finished shaking down the PACs and lobbyists, so they need a little more time until the checks clear.
I'll save Congress the time to read the bill and simply summarize it for them:
THE BILL WILL CONTINUE THE ONGOING MERGER OF MEXICO AND THE UNTIED STATES INTO ONE NEW WONDERFUL COUNTRY!
And any member of congress who votes against it is a racist.
Now hold on thar, if dem congress critters spend all der time reading dis here bill, den how dey gonna have time to read dat 5000 page gun control bill.
(if you need 1500 pages to grant amnesty to 12 million illegal aliens, then you'll probably need 5000 pages of arcane rules to limit Americans 2nd Admendment rights.)
"International Trade Laws" : NAFTA [jan.1,1994- present]; GATT/WTO [1947-94/ 1995-present]; FTA [canada, superceded/suspended by nafta]; and CAFTA [July 28,2005- present] http://www.law.georgetown.edu/library/research/guides/InternationalTradeLaw.cfm
Why: why am i posting this? look closely at the timelines, and tell the american people how much their lives have improved. sorry, but these immigration programs are going to make middle class a minority and the latino's the majority, period!
rubio is a charlatan, a POS!!! he has been bought and paid for a dozen times!
we can't continue to give the country away to these 'undocumented's'? think of nat'l security,... think of how they lower the wage for working americans? what they do is send our dollars [ money] back to mexico in exchange for peso's with duel citizenship. where's the fucking benefit. they lower the living wage and work for minimum while sucking our great country dry.
fuck these illegals,... that undercut our standard of living-- vote without showing id's democratic!
the republican's don't stand a chance?-- and what we'll see for the next 20'years is a one party system run by the likes of obama and rubio!
Go back to mexico or california where you think it's yours, to begin with you parasitic scum???
Note: the end game will be athird world north america consisting of Mexico, North America, and Canada... and the currency will be called the "AMERO"!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_currency_union
Ps. this is where we are headed folks!?
jmo
"Go back to mexico or california where you think it's yours, to begin with you parasitic scum???"
You forgot Texas :*)
the NWO needs a 'breadbasket, jim
that's it... period!?
This banker-hijacked government is going to keep going until it’s all gone. They are going to bring Mexico into the United States and they are going to make all Americans pay for it.
The end result will be total devastation for both countries, as America's debt continues to skyrocket. This total bankruptcy of Americans is designed to push America into the financial piranhas' "new world order."
Americans either abolish the Federal Reserve or they will face head on the economic terrorism and totalitarian solutions the globalists have planned to meet the crises our banker-owned politicians have wrought.
Has anyone spoken to Nancy Pelosi? She will be mad as hell. How dare they attempt to understand legislation that was written by and for lobbyists.
Wait...they can't do that, can they?!?!
I thought they were just supposed to pass the damn thing...and THEN find out what's in it later, when it goes into effect...
What the hell is going on?!?!?
Gee, They didn't need to read the Patriot Act before signing....
(Of course a couple of them got motivated via mail with some anthrax in it. That seemed to cure their need to read it....)
actually, I think, they won't allowed to read the bill before passing it.
Better just to pass the legislation without reading it. Better yet, pass a bill that hasn't been written yet. That way, they can just change it to meet whatever needs the legislators may require.
The Jose Trevino trial began today - he's the brother of the leader of the Mexican drug cartel los Zetas. Besides the usual laundering avenues through HSBC and Wells Fargo, they also took to laundering via horse raising in Oklahoma, inconspicuously naming one of their stallions Number One Cartel.
The Zetas are former Mexican spec ops trained by Americans, and they've been fighting their former employers, the Gulf Cartel, for the past several years. They are now also at war with the Sinaloa Cartel, run by Joaquin "Shorty" Loera of Forbes 100 fame.
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2013/04/trevino-trial-to-start-monday-in-zetas.html