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Guest Post: A Thoughtful View On Boston: Empathize But Don't Be Terrorized

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Submitted by Michael Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

I have highlighted security expert Bruce Schneier’s writings in the past, including his recent excellent article: “The Internet is a Surveillance State.”  In his piece yesterday published in The Atlantic, he offers us some serious wisdom about how to think about the tragic event in Boston.  His key message is to “empathize, but not be terrorized.”  My favorite excerpts are below: 
As the details about the bombings in Boston unfold, it’d be easy to be scared. It’d be easy to feel powerless and demand that our elected leaders do something — anything — to keep us safe.
 
It’d be easy, but it’d be wrong. We need to be angry and empathize with the victims without being scared. Our fears would play right into the perpetrators’ hands — and magnify the power of their victory for whichever goals whatever group behind this, still to be uncovered, has. We don’t have to be scared, and we’re not powerless. We actually have all the power here, and there’s one thing we can do to render terrorism ineffective: Refuse to be terrorized.
 
It’s hard to do, because terrorism is designed precisely to scare people — far out of proportion to its actual danger. A huge amount of research on fear and the brain teaches us that we exaggerate threats that are rare, spectacular, immediate, random — in this case involving an innocent child — senseless, horrific and graphic. Terrorism pushes all of our fear buttons, really hard, and we overreact.
 
There are things we can do to make us safer, mostly around investigation, intelligence, and emergency response, but we will never be 100-percent safe from terrorism; we need to accept that.
 
How well this attack succeeds depends much less on what happened in Boston than by our reactions in the coming weeks and months. Terrorism isn’t primarily a crime against people or property. It’s a crime against our minds, using the deaths of innocents and destruction of property as accomplices. When we react from fear, when we change our laws and policies to make our country less open, the terrorists succeed, even if their attacks fail. But when we refuse to be terrorized, when we’re indomitable in the face of terror, the terrorists fail, even if their attacks succeed.
 
Don’t glorify the terrorists and their actions by calling this part of a “war on terror.” Wars involve two legitimate sides. There’s only one legitimate side here; those on the other are criminals. They should be found, arrested, and punished. But we need to be vigilant not to weaken the very freedoms and liberties that make this country great, meanwhile, just because we’re scared.
Bruce is basically expressing the same sentiment as Benjamin Franklin 250 years ago when this wise founding father stated:

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

This is as true today as it was at the time of the Revolutionary War.

Full article here.

 

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Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:18 | 3459037 kito
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Krieger....you are now on their list......TERRRRISST!!!!!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:55 | 3459049 Ahmeexnal
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Protect youself, buy Au/Ag.

This seems like a good excuse to implement internet monitoring at it's most orwellian levels.

The oligarchs will come out with some sort of "temporary online activity monitoring" in order to find out the "perpetrators".

The "temporary" part will be dropped out later and will become permanent, just as income tax did.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:15 | 3459380 walküre
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FBI is monitoring this site as well as other sites as we speak. They're looking for clues and tapping in the dark. Scary. Shutting down the internet would be like shutting down the chatterboxes. Law enforcement would miss out on monitoring which is alot more effective.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:17 | 3459571 otto skorzeny
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the FBI is too busy looking for Stacey Peterson.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:17 | 3459579 Kirk2NCC1701
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BFD. Due diligence, to be expected.

Only hope they do a better job than the last time around (9.11 and Anthrax), where they did a piss-poor job, as we all know.

Take the anthrax scare way back when... Unlike them, I knew instantly that it was a domestic job when they showed it on TV. Sent them an email that foreign guys would not have used US date format.
And it took them how long to trace the genetic source to the US AMRIID? Pffff.

And how long were their own Anti-Terrorist Agents warning them about Ata and co.? And, oh, wasn't that Special Agent sent to NY, only to perish in the Towers?
Pfff.

And what have they done during the corporate fraud all these years!? Pff.

A bunch if careerist types, who haven't lived up to their reputation in many years.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:26 | 3459597 walküre
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They get paid to run in circles. Was thinking of the other guys. Those telling the FBI what to do and where to look. They have no clue and that has them scared. There's alot of confusion and no answers.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:00 | 3459654 Kirk2NCC1701
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Really? Wow. Doesn't exactly sound like "24". Which I loved!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:26 | 3459061 DJ Happy Ending
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Unfortunately this sentiment is about as popular as self-reliance and taking responsibility for one's own actions.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:33 | 3459080 nmewn
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It is unfortunate.

But we can keep bangin on it until the unfortunates wake up ;-)

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:50 | 3459120 Awakened Sheeple
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Its hard to compete with news coverage that encourages fear. You know.. That 3 minute looped video of explosions, people hitting the deck, a women crying hysterically, a fat lady on a stretcher... on every fucking channel.

I watched "V" this weekend. Couldn't help but wonder how/why people don't realize they are being force fed this fear crap. So sick of this and saddened because because I have to explain to my children why I am so cynical when one of these tragedies occur.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:47 | 3459276 Banksters
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AwakenedSHeeple

Re the loops of bomb video.  Absolutely.  They are literally trying create remote post traumatic stress disorder.  They know that peoples brains don't work well under the influence of cortisol.  

 

Fukkers.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:11 | 3459360 BeaverFever
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My ex-wife owns a pressure cooker. I'm turning her in pronto.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:15 | 3460626 Doubleguns
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The loops create the fear that gives cover to the asswipes in washington to come out with another "Patriot Act" or some other abomination of our freedoms.  NDAA, CISPA ETC...

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:06 | 3459663 Kirk2NCC1701
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TV shows, whose message is too disquieting to TPTB, seem to get cancelled. E.g., V, Last Resort...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:49 | 3459123 ACP
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I prefer to keep the unfortunates between me and the power, thus helping them earn the nickname 'unfortunates.'

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:11 | 3459185 thisandthat
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I rather empathize with Afghani/whatever anonymous victims, who never have their faces, names, family, friends, life, dreams plastered all over the media and shoved into your mind, for you to realize they too were actual real people like you, thus empathizing with them.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:15 | 3459567 otto skorzeny
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unless you have experienced a bombing first hand I think " sympathize" is the correct word choice-not "empathize"-I believe the title of this post is also incorrect

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 17:22 | 3474167 thisandthat
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You're correct.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:52 | 3459290 NoDebt
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The unfotunates will not wake up, no matter how much you roust them.  They LIKE being asleep.  They have found the final, un-ending path to perpetual prosperity.  They will make government give it to them.  I'm not just talking about the poor- big corporations living off the government teat get lumped in here, too.  They can all finally just FORCE other people to pay them.  No need to compete, work or produce anything.  Just GIVE IT TO ME BECAUSE I'M ENTITLED (by virtue of successfuly getting the government to give it to me).

Conservative ideas will be defeated in every battle from this point forward.  Only government-centric thinking is allowed.  They will NEVER reverse course.  It's the perfect system for all involved (except those in the private sector who aren't in the loop- they're just the FOOD for that system).

And it'll work beautifully, eating everything in sight ....right up until they run the country up on the rocks.  At no point before that will different ideas be entertained.  This is an unstoppable juggernaut of group-think and incestuous self-dealing. 

If you need proof, look around.  Do you detect the slightest whiff of fear from politicians or other "leaders" proposing liberal, socialist, communist or even fascist ideas RIGHT OUT IN PUBLIC WITH NO EMBARASSMENT WHATSOEVER?  They could take us any time they want.  And they know it.  They're no longer afraid to say outright what they've always secretly believed.  That's how you know they have won.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:10 | 3459177 johngaltfla
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Of course the government is already exploiting the attack and there was looting (apparently) in Boston after the attack. Our society is so screwed.

 

How Far America has Fallen: Looting, Exploitation after the Boston Terrorist Attack

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:54 | 3459293 balolalo
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Another possible motive for the Boston attack:

sneak in the 100% E-verify system in the new immigration bill while everyone is distracted.

Voila, a federal/corporate national ID. Fascism is here.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/04/16/inside-t...

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:20 | 3459588 otto skorzeny
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they look like middle-class whitey(who the fuck else jogs?)-just gettin' in on O's free shit army-why should only the nee-groes get some?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:52 | 3459285 Freddie
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Bloomberg is a POS going on and on about the need for more cameras on every corner.

Thank leftist liberal shit like Bloomberg and all these liberal mayors who have made their cities "sanctuary zones" for illegal aliens and obviously also for terrorists. F them!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:35 | 3459461 dick cheneys ghost
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Thats funny because the Neo-Cons are sayin the same thing..........

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:40 | 3459626 Professorlocknload
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 Could that be because neocons and liberals ARE the same thing?

We need cameras in every .gov office looking over the shoulder of every bureaucrat with internet access so the general public can log on and monitor their activities!

To keep them safe, mind you ;)

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 04:21 | 3459859 Loukanika the r...
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Why the fuck is this so important?
Bostonians were main contributors to IRA when they were murdering UK citizens
More people died as a result of road traffic accidents in US yesterday than bombs
How many people died in Syria yesterday as a result of violence?
How many people died in Iraq yesterday as a result of violence?
US welcome to the real world....

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:20 | 3459041 overhere2000
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You are with us or against us.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:45 | 3459112 Falconsixone
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Go out and buy crap from china and show the terrorists we know how to be free.... let us roll up more debt and stick are nose under another tent....hmmm ...Who's tent?

 

They'll wait for it to calm and people to forget they were five feet away then need more money for more safety from the big bad not the jooz.

 

An xray machine for every person and a person in every xray machine. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:21 | 3459043 Cdad
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All day long [and what a long day it was], The BlowHorn [CNBC] jibber jabbered about "what more we could do" to make ourselves more safe.  Perfect confirmation of this post.

Additional:  after halting all BlowHorn programming consumption, for fear of brain damage owing to the proprietary Cdad BlowHorn Unwatchable indicator being at critical levels, I turned on for a couple days.  Caution:  that indicator is literally off the chart now.  Protect your membrane, and only consume BlowHorn programming in responsible doses.  

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:25 | 3459059 otto skorzeny
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I can literally not watch more than 30 seconds unless it is Santelli

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:29 | 3459072 Cdad
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These last couple days have been seriously bad.  I know it is always bad...if what you are tuning in for is useful information...but there are times when the propaganda thing just spikes...and it is literally painful to watch.  I hope the brotherhood is on guard and protecting the membrane.  The CDC should really look into the deleterious effects of BlowHorn [CNBC] programming on the general public.   

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:41 | 3459096 Zer0head
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It is not just the CNBSers it is the totality of media ex blogs

Relive the 1930's Germany; an insidious / incremental increase of the power of the state - those who awoke early understood and if they had the means, they fled. Others realized too late and went undeground. The vast majority, however buried their heads until it was too late and either perished or became part of the machine.  

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:21 | 3459403 walküre
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Yes. We're living on a razor's edge right now. 9/11 was easily and quickly "solved" and the "perps" "identified". The fact that there is absolutely no information a day later is concerning.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:54 | 3459296 Freddie
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TV and Hollywood are for retards who enjoy supporting The Matrix and the vermin in power.  Keep watching TV and Hollywood shit and be a mindless serf.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:01 | 3459531 prains
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Or join Frieddegg trying to knit his own transvaginal mesh, the choice is yours

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:46 | 3460746 mumcard
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You seem to be getting a lot accomplished pbrains.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:27 | 3459065 bigdumbnugly
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yeah i heard that and wondered about it too.     then i  changed the channel to skinamax and immediately felt better.

edit:   well, after a few minutes don't you know...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:52 | 3459291 bigrooster
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Why do you watch CNBC then?  I thought that show was cancelled years ago.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:23 | 3459050 grunk
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Don't take the blame either.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:22 | 3459054 otto skorzeny
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the old adage about people who are totally fucking incompetent end up working for the govt is never truer than in cases like this

 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:15 | 3459679 Kirk2NCC1701
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Not the only reason but the biggest was due to the selection criteria since the 1960's. Merit matters less than "preferred demographics".

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:23 | 3459058 spinone
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I'm not terrorized.  I'm angry.  Cold, calculated, methodical anger.  I want to find who did it, beyond a shadow of a doubt, even if it takes 10 years.  Then I want to kill him.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:25 | 3459062 otto skorzeny
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CIA guys are hard to kill-they usually are in the background and send  some brown-guy patsies out to take the heat

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:28 | 3459069 Ahmeexnal
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Are you threatening POTUS on a public forum?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:28 | 3459071 spinone
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What fucking pussy gave me a down arrow?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:37 | 3459087 LetThemEatRand
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I down arrowed you for advocating blind anger.   Blind anger feeds the beast.  We (meaning the collective "West") blew up a bunch of kids and other innocents over the last 12 months and "we" don't give a shit about them because we have blind anger and/or "we" just don't care if it's the other guy's deep tanned kids who are wheeled to the hospital with a blown off leg.  

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:45 | 3459115 downrodeo
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the true warrior understands that the only fight is with the self

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:51 | 3459513 BeaverFever
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Thanks, you owe me a new mirror.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:51 | 3459126 spinone
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Did you read the post?  Where did you get blind anger?  Isn't cold, calculated and methodical the opposite of blind?

I realize our military drones innocents in other countries, and I'm against that too.  We reap what we sow. 

But two wrongs don't make a right. 

And there is a big abstraction between "We" in the West who are responsible for voting for one of two bullshit candidates who becomes president and then has a general order a guy in the military to fire a missile from a drone that kills a bunch of innocent kids, and the guy who planted the bombs at the finish line of the Boston marathon.  The two are not equal.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:02 | 3459165 LetThemEatRand
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Okay, I'm going on a list now but fuck it.  It needs to be said.

Let's say that your son or daughter or mother or significant other were paralyzed by a bombing raid in some distant land.  He/she has hamburger for a leg and dies horribly over several weeks because there is no medicine.  No one took a picture.  There was no news site that carried the story.  No one cares but you.  And you have no way to seek justice.  No one who voted for or against the bombing raid even knows the strike happened.   If two wrongs don't make a right, how do you justify the strike that killed your __________?  And from whom do you seek justice?

Bring the killers to justice, yes.  But don't single out one.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:11 | 3459184 spinone
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So in your mind you've already figured out who did this, their motivation, and written a sad little life story for the poor lost soul.

I am rapidly losing patience with terrorist apologists.

The person or people that did this are worthless punks.  They need to be hunted down and killed.  I hope they are.  I'd pull the trigger myself if I got the chance.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:18 | 3459208 LetThemEatRand
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No, I'm offering an alternative viewpoint that may (or may not) explain the motivation.  You want cold justice and you speak as if no one could possibly be justified to kill someone out of anger and revenge when anger and revenge are the oldest reasons that humans kill other humans.  If this was a terrorist attack as opposed to a random killing by some psychopath, it was a terrorist without a guided missile.  Where is your anger for the guys with guided missiles who kill out of a desire for anger and revenge or worse?  Please direct me to your prior posts where you express similar anger for an atrocity committed on the other "team."

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:04 | 3459330 Harbanger
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" Where is your anger for the guys with guided missiles...."  You mean Barry and his team?  He's not responsible for anything. Except taking out bin laden.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:54 | 3459519 BeaverFever
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In December 2001

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:02 | 3459797 Harbanger
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So? Then it's Bush's fault.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:10 | 3459551 Overfed
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You're either full of shit, or very gullible.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:26 | 3459225 nmewn
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This is not going to be "brown skinned" people from the middle east LTER.

Its going to be domestic.

They (jihadists) are famous for giving a good death to America rant after a, shall we say...out-burst...lol.

This one has been silent...no one is even piggy backing on it and claiming responsibility (falsely). This is a domestic cell...and there's going to be another if the pattern holds.

Stay away from large gatherings ;-)

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:35 | 3459242 LetThemEatRand
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9/11 was domestic (by which I mean .gov, or some branch of it).  The Boston attack actually has all the trappings of brown country terrorism by some guy with an axe to grind.  Brown guys with axes to grind don't take down Building 7.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:53 | 3460775 mumcard
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If you wanted to hurt the USA and the economy even further, would you attack a few runners OR a mile and a half away hit a baseball park with a lot more people.   An attack that would be an attack on one of the symbols of Americana.  An attack that would IMMEDIATELY hurt ticket sales and ad revenue on the talmudvision. 

Or would you attack the once a year event that nobody pays to watch? 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:27 | 3459820 lakecity55
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I think you are spot on.

The most dangerous enemy of the goobermint is US, not the mooselams.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:53 | 3460782 mumcard
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Bitter clingers...

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:07 | 3459548 Overfed
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We're all on the list here.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:55 | 3460786 mumcard
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We can make our own list.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 08:03 | 3460055 willien1derland
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There aren't enough GREEN ARROW points I could give you LTER! I love my country, but, our leadership has calculatedly directed this blind anger in such a manner that we have DEHUMANIZED Middle Eastern lives - they don't get reported vigorously enough therefore they are simply overlooked - WHAT HAS OCCURRED IN BOSTON IS A TRAGEDY, but, IT IS NOT MORE A TRAGEDY than a DRONE STRIKE that kills Afghani CHILDREN!

Unfortunately, what leadership fail to recognize is that you reap what we sow, more than we sow, & later than we sow  - Every farmer appreciates the meaning of this principle. It’s time we as Americans examine it to ensure WE INDIVIDUALLY & COLLECTIVELY understand the implications & make the necessary changes  - We NEED to LOVE others as much as we LOVE ourselves...TRAGEDY=TRAGEDY EVERYWHERE EQUALLY...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:44 | 3459108 Croesus
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@ Spinone:

I down arrowed you for talking out of your ass. (In Both Posts)

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:57 | 3459138 nmewn
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I up arrowed him for being human, I want the cocksuckers dead too...whoever they are.

In fact, I'd personally stuff a pressure cooker filled with black powder & nails up their asses and light the fuses without a care in the world.

If someones got a beef with .gov you attack them. If someones got a beef with banks, you attack them. Whoever did this has a problem with everyday, normal people.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:09 | 3459169 Croesus
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@ nmewn:

The only people in the world who seem to have a problem with everyday people, are .gov and the banks.

Whenever something bad happens in the world, the odds are pretty good that someone, somewhere, is gaining something from it.

A study of history should show that .gov and banks are the single greatest causes of many of the unfortunate sides of the human condition, WAR and POVERTY being the main two.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:11 | 3459187 nmewn
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This wasn't .gov or banks.

Thats not to say they can't or won't TRY to take advantage of every circumstance presenting itself. This is where we need to remain vigilant and say no to infringement of our liberty...find the perps or we will.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:31 | 3459234 LetThemEatRand
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Are you suggesting that .gov and banks don't kill innocent civilians to achieve their objectives, no matter how ignoble?  And if you agree that they do, why do you expect that the targets of said attacks or their sympathizers would not likewise see civilian casaulties as collateral damage?  The problem as I see it is that .gov and banks have convinced us sheep that when someone strikes back in kind against our atrocities by committing similar atrocities, our primary and primal reaction is to say "two wrongs don't make a right," let's go get 'em.  All the while we sit on our laptop and wax philosophic about the writings of some narcissist hag who was all for killing others to benefit herself.   

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:47 | 3459277 nmewn
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"Are you suggesting that .gov and banks don't kill innocent civilians to achieve their objectives, no matter how ignoble?"

I'm not suggesting anything and not responding to LTER flaming strawmen & red herrings...I'm saying flatly...this was not .gov or banks who used crude homemade bombs and materials at the Boston Marathon...as much as I'd like to pin it on O'Barry or Goldman.

If history is any guide, its gonna be from...well...I'll hold off on speculation.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:13 | 3459183 A Lunatic
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On January 6, 2013, it was reported that Keith Ratliff, a member of the FPSRussia team, was found dead with a single gunshot wound to the head. The murder has gone unsolved.

March 29, 2013 FPSRussia ( the tenth highest number of utube channel subscribers) is raided by ATF for suspicion of use of illegal explosives. They leave empty handed, having found no such evidence, however, the use of a legally sold explosive target indicator (Tannerite) was brought into Focus in the mainstream media arena

Having seen numerous explosions from this substance I believe the Boston Explosions to be ammonium Nitrate based, and would go long on the bet that it will be "discovered" that Tannerite was used.

Coincidence?.........false flag?........Terrorsim?.........retribution..........?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:17 | 3459203 spinone
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Tannerite produces orange/yellow smoke. The blast was white smoke.  This was likely black powder, especially since pressure cookers were used.  This contains the blast and increases velocity of black powder.

A state sponsored explosion would have been much bigger.  This was amateur stuff.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:28 | 3459230 A Lunatic
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A false flag event scripted to the existing narrative of homegrown terrorism using readily available, over the counter low grade explosives would of necessity appear to be a bit amateurish......amateurish, but effective enough to propel the agenda. Likely? No. Plausible? certainly.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:40 | 3459260 spinone
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You're a lunatic alright.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:59 | 3459730 The Heart
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"A (mil-OP) false flag event scripted to the existing narrative of homegrown terrorism using readily available, over the counter low grade explosives would of necessity appear to be a bit amateurish......amateurish, but effective enough to propel the agenda. Likely? No. Plausible? certainly."

Mike Rivero said that today on the radio.

Answer to your question: Very Plausible. Wait till the end of the week when they roll out the little white young 20 year old boy pasty.

Still, a glaring question remains to be answered. Why didn’t the doggies sniff out the bombs?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:23 | 3459816 lakecity55
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Those were Federal Reserve pups, sniffing out the crowd for Au and Ag.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:48 | 3459118 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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OK then Rambo, riddle me this: on the same day as three people were killed in Boston, 30 wedding celebrants including women & children were killed and 120 wounded by an American bomb. The Americans admitted they dropped the bomb and that it was a mistake and that the people killed were innocent non-combatants.

So

The Boston event was broadcast everywhere OMG what a horrible unthinkable barbaric act; the second event was completely & utterly unreported & ignored. Gee I wonder if they might be related? That maybe the anger you feel is EXACTLY what the people under these American bombs feel? And that maybe it will never stop so long as America keeps bombing the shit out of innocent people around the globe?

Or is it just a question of pure & simple racism, the people killed in Afghanistan were brown and the ones killed in Boston were white. Is there a ratio? Do 30 brown people equal 3 white people?

When the My Lai masscre happened it was TOP NEWS for about a year and  half and the guilty were hauled before the courts and it ended up stopping that illegal and unjust war. Today a mass murder of civilians doesn't even make page 27?

Yep THAT's why they hate us. How dumb do you have to be not to see it.

Reggie lists chapter & verse in case you missed it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-04-16/homeland-security-agenci...

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:56 | 3459145 spinone
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You solved this crime single handed?  You know who did it and the motivation?  You're full of shit.

Yes, the USA does terrible things and I'm against that too.  I was against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan from the beginning. 

If you sympathize with the Bostom Marathon bomb-makers you better take a good look at yourself. 

Just because I want the bastards dead doesnt' mean I'm for our foreign policies.  I'm just thinking for myself.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:40 | 3459252 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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I don't sympathize with bomb-makers, I sympathize with victims. That's why I want this shit to stop. There is absolutely no soul-searching or debate on the causes of terrorism or the results of American policy, anywhere, by anybody. The 10-year anniversary of the Iraq War passes and nobody says a peep about whether it was a good idea or a horrible idea with disastrous results that must never  be repeated and the responsible found guilty. Then everybody gets all emo about 3 victims in Boston, ignores hundreds of thousands of identical victims around the globe when they and their neighbors and their government and their media were completely on board with the policies intended to fight "the war on Terra". No photos of body bags coming home allowed, certainly no photos of brown people with their legs blown off, but make it a Boston resident and all of a sudden there's photos everywhere and everyone is filled with horror & compassion and revenge. Could anything be more hypocritical.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:46 | 3459262 spinone
Wed, 04/17/2013 - 02:07 | 3459738 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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so do these innocent kids. But oh, they're brown...that's different

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/G6RqWPF.bym6xlHS8kWkzQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld...

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:50 | 3459283 Professorlocknload
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"Could anything be more hypocritical."

Yeah. A government granted the degree of power and the consensus by it's constituents to enable such acts in the first place.

Like fire, powerful servant and fearful master. 

 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:17 | 3459577 prains
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OTPBDH

 

well put and nicely framed around the anniversary of the Iraq Woar. The hypocricsy you so well describe needs to be defined;

 

the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense.

 

is a deeply embedded human trait but has manifested itself culturally in the Various States of Detroitification to the point that watching CNN brings vomit to the throat. Not only is the hypocrisy culturally transmitted openly within the states but is videotaped for ALL the world to watch on cable television. The world watches and waits for the hammer to come down.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:02 | 3459163 nmewn
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"Today a mass murder of civilians doesn't even make page 27?"

You want "brown skinned" murder & death? You don't have to travel across the planet.

Here ya go...

http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/pdfs/grandjurywomensmedical.pdf

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:57 | 3459303 Ness.
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26 shot and four dead this weekend in Chicago.  It was considered a 'good weekend' as experts agreed that bad weather played a part in holding down a normally active time of year.

 

25 shot but only 2 killed over Easter weekend (Praise Jeebus).  CPD noted the dramatic decline in violence y/y compared to the previous year.  Awaiting revisions.

 

Over 50 (reported) shootings with 6 killed in 15 days.  

 

But seriously, don't fuck with runners, that's wrong.  They're the only people left with any conviction in our society. Who else has the balls to wake up at 4:00am and run in the freezing rain simply for the feeling of accomplishment?

 

 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:28 | 3459603 otto skorzeny
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wait til it's gets good and hot in Chi-town in Ju-ly- bullets be crackin'

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:25 | 3459355 EvlTheCat
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+10000 up arrows nmewn.  People fret, and loose sleep over barbarous relics.  What about plain old barbarism, purposely not covered by the MSM???

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:30 | 3459231 DawgAss
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July 1, 2002

Daily Mail, July 1, 2002 “120 people either killed or wounded” in US Bomb Attack on Afghan Wedding Read more: http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2013/04/16/120-people-either-killed-or-wounded-in-us-bomb-attack.html#ixzz2QgSdMF8S DUMB ASS, nice try
Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:44 | 3459268 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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Even the fucking CIA says the US has killed AT LEAST 100,000 innocents in Iraq alone, most estimates run 10X that. But OMG panic panic when it's 3 people in Boston, how unspeakably barbaric

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:20 | 3459813 lakecity55
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The propaganda organs of the State will not report the killings of innocent brown peoples to amerikan serfs.

Karma is a bitch.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:41 | 3459256 Professorlocknload
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"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger."

Buddha

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:59 | 3459529 pods
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Anger by definition is none of those things.

Anger is emotion.

Emotion has been the standard playbook for turning up the heat on the stove.

Anger will blind you into bloodlust while not seeing what the actual effect of the event was.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

pods

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:53 | 3459716 BeaverFever
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Hard to kill if you're blind...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:26 | 3459063 Z_End
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“I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”

- Frank Herbert, Dune

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:39 | 3459091 ChanceIs
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I could never accept Frank Herbert's contrivance of an entire society based on eating worm s*&t.

OTOH, for reasons I can't explain I feel more and more like a worm every day - and the federal govenment certainly expects me to swallow a lot of the brown stuff emanating from Washington in increasing quantities.

The full movie, Dune, was on YouTube a while back.  It might be there still.  Check it out if you are sleepless.  "Thing to Do in Denver When You're Dead" was up withinthe last month.  I caught that a couple of times.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:02 | 3459162 spinone
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Why?  We eat dinosaur shit.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:11 | 3459182 ChanceIs
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No.  No.  Dinosaur shit is what we put in our gas tanks to get to work.  Although in a metaphysical sense, through tht mechanism we do eat dino doo-doo.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:25 | 3459221 spinone
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I was speaking metaphysically (metaphorically)

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 08:30 | 3460161 Five8Charlie
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Our dinosaur shit = Herbert's worm shit.

'Dune' is an allegory for oil. The Fremen are the Arabs, spice is oil (can't tansport anything without either of them), etc.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:27 | 3459067 FieldingMellish
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Like most problems, I'm sure this is a problem that can be fixed if moar money is thrown at it. Right?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:30 | 3459074 Oldwood
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Terrorists attempt to create an environment where their "victims" do to themselves what the terrorist can not. Our government acts in this role as well, creating an environment where we will surrender to it in cowardice and fear, not only of it but all of the dangers they amplify. They, with the lesser know terrorists, have created a world of fear and danger, with only themselves to claim the answer. Shall we pray to Allah or Obama? Who will save us?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:30 | 3459077 paint it red ca...
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The fish is rotting from the head down.

I am so sick of this shit....

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:36 | 3459081 IridiumRebel
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I have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than being caught up in a terrrrissss attack.

"An estimated 24,000 people are killed by lightning strikes around the world each year and about 240,000 are injured." -wiki

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:38 | 3459092 Ahmeexnal
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You are at even greater risk of being aborted.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:19 | 3459396 YC2
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Not this late term

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:42 | 3459094 seek
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And the police are doing a much better job than terrorists OR lightning:

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/06/fear-of-terror-makes-people-stupi...

(which was the source used for the link below)

http://www.cato.org/blog/youre-eight-times-more-likely-be-killed-police-...

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:42 | 3459101 sabra1
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And there are 300M americans too chicken shit to take their country back!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:01 | 3459325 Freddie
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They prefer being brainwashed daily by TV and Hollywood. Plenty of morons here on ZH still watch TV and in doing so support The Matrix.  Nice job serfs.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:59 | 3459156 SofaPapa
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The list of more immediate dangers is long.

 

We are used to dramatic stories.  We are now multiple generations into a culture where entertainment is as "real" to people as our own lives.  Has anyone noticed that when people talk, we talk in terms of TV shows or movies or sometimes books?  They are our references.  They are "real" to us.

 

When something like this happens, we view it in terms of those terms of reference.  We have lost almost completely the ability to see life for what it is and not for the dramatic representation of it that has been provided by the media.  Thus events like Boston become just further reality TV shows and play into the fear centers that have been so well primed for so long.

 

Live your lives, people.  What has happened to you today?  Not what have you seen on TV or in movies.  What interactions have you had?  What did you do today?  Who did you talk to?  Live with that.

 

Are these bombings real?  Sure they are.  But very few of us are directly involved.  The rest of us need to live and not give events that are inserted into our consciousness greater weight than our real lives with our real families, friends, work and communities.  Live!  Stop watching and stop accepting this "picture" of the world.  We can only correct the world when we start viewing it firsthand and stop trying to correct what someone else presents to us as the "big" problem of the day.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:39 | 3459089 beaker
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We need to register pressure cookers.  No one needs a high pressure pressure cooker.  These damn things need to be regulated.  If it can save even one life, it is worth it.  Same deal for kitchen timers and wires.  We need to register those too!  I mean, what are you trying to hide if you're against this???

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:39 | 3459254 Croesus
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I lost my pressure cooker in a tragic home canning accident.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:14 | 3459810 lakecity55
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Assault Pressure Cookers!

Quick! Add them to the 'gun ban' Bill!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:44 | 3459106 Jendrzejczyk
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Holy shit. any ZH'ers that home can are truly on "the list" now.

BOSTON—Authorities investigating the Boston Marathon blasts that killed three and injured more than 175 believe the two bombs were assembled from household pressure cookers, a crude but effective explosive that has been thwarted before in U.S. terror plots.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:23 | 3459410 IridiumRebel
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I made chili today.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:06 | 3459802 lakecity55
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Skeeter: "Bend over, serfs! You'll like it! I do! Ohhh, Reggie! Where are you, dear lad?"

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:22 | 3459412 Tunga
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We are all bitchez now

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:45 | 3459109 JR
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The Boston events coupled with more gun control talk mean more restrictions on the freedom of Americans.

And it’s not anti-Semitic to say this is related to the police-state philosophy of Israel where early clamp downs on airline travel and special authority to secret police such as the Mossad to carry out not only defensive but offensive police tactics, not only in Israel but other countries, are the rule.

This ratcheting up of militarism, such as the assassination of foreign leaders, torture and electronic surveillance of not only Israeli citizens but Americans as well, is part of the Israeli philosophy. And it has infected America.

And, now, at the behest of AIPAC, Jewish Senator Barbara Boxer has introduced a bill whereby Israelis can come to America without a visa, but for Americans to go to Israel, the Israelis would require them to have a visa.

The US currently has “visa waiver” programs with 37 countries to permit citizens of a foreign country entry into America without a visa, and these 37 have reciprocated by allowing American citizens to enter their country without a visa.

But Israel wants to “codify Israel’s right to discriminate against Americans,” says Glenn Greenwald in the UK Guardian.

IOW, the Israelis want to be able to say on short notice, say at the airport, which Americans can or cannot enter their country.

This is Zionist justice whereby one people is more chosen than others, the very justice that is now ruling America’s domestic and foreign policy and controlling her politicians.

Says Greenwald: “Israel has a practice of routinely refusing to allow Americans of Arab ethnicity or Muslim backgrounds to enter their country or the occupied territories it controls; it also bars those who are critical of Israeli actions or supportive of Palestinian rights. Israel refuses to relinquish this discriminatory practice of exclusion toward Americans, even as it seeks to enter the US's visa-free program for the benefit of Israeli citizens.”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/13/barbara-boxer-aipac-israel-discrimination

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:26 | 3459226 spinone
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We don't need to restrict anyone's freedoms.  We just need to kill the bastards who did this.  When did the government become such chicken shit? 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:47 | 3459244 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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It is not going to happen. They pass that gun bill the American Spring is going to start. You watch and see. Couple that with a stock market crash and dollar collapse and obamacare coming into play. The SHTF big time and it won't just be a few isolated paranoia type kooks doing the shit stiring. I know I wouldn't want to be an intern working for someone like McCain right now.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:07 | 3459343 JR
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I completely agree. It’s almost as if the forces against us are pushing the envelope to produce a response and get it over with. Following the November election, most of the centers of tyranny apparently think there’s a chance to gain their police state in this window of opportunity - where the taxing structure and bureaucracy are now being used to the extreme to garner riches and power for the banking cartel. Truly, a corner has been turned.

And now their action from Cyprus to Germany to Washington is confiscation – from homes, to savings, to gold, to standards of living, to a country’s natural resources and means of production.

It is clear the object is to obtain and control private property and the movement of individuals.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:00 | 3459458 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The military is the wildcard which way they go if the American Spring starts over the gun control bill being ramrodded through Congress in a weaselly manner. I suspect they will be split internally there also since a lot of them do not like what is going on either. I think people may find out a lot more people internally are on our side than anyone realizes. Economy goes south into depression territory the obamaphone free shit crowd along with the entitlement crew is going to be out and rioting in the streets. I don't think teleprompter is going to make it to the end of his term at this rate if this shit keeps up.

I truly hope it doesn't come to this but I don't see them being able to keep the lid on the pressure cooker much longer unless these socialist control freaks show a little good faith that they don't want a civil war and stand down on this one. Every show of force or attempt to limit Constitutional rights is not going to be taken lying down from here on in. You can tell the mood is really getting ugly out there.

Here is an example of what I mean by this.

http://www.libertynews.com/2013/04/reid-ready-to-rush-gun-control-vote/

Capitol Hill sources say that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid may try to schedule for Wednesday the first vote on expanding background checks for gun buyers. Even though it appears Reid lacks the votes to get the full gun control bill through the Senate, aides say he may try to hustle a quick vote on the so-called Manchin-Toomey compromise. There would still be a 60-vote margin required to pass the Manchin-Toomey background deal or any other legislation, the aides noted.

Reid may well be rushing the Senate vote(s), at least in part, because brand new polling shows only 4% of Americans think gun control is a major concern for the country. According to Gallup, far more Americans are concerned about the economy, unemployment and the federal debt than about guns and Capitol Hill efforts to control them. 

So why, a reasonable person might ask, would the Majority Leader of the US Senate be spending so much of the body’s time on something the vast majority of Americans think is an issue of scant national concern? Well, we ask the following questions:

  • Could it be that Senator Reid sees an opportunity to ram through progressive legislation before more people catch on to what’s happening?
  • Could it be that Reid simply sees the chance to score political points with the ultra-liberal base?
  • Or, could it be that the people’s priorities just don’t matter to Democrats determined to further erode our Second Amendment rights?

Seriously who the fuck do these people work for, US who vote them the fuck in or someone else. If at this point only 4% give a fuck that gun control is a problem, stop the fucking politics and polarization and just pull the fucking bill for now. There is no reason to ramrod it and risk a revolt. Unless these assholes heads are floating around in some bizarro ether they got to know there are a lot of angry among the concerned and fearful who are also armed to the teeth looking for a reason to start shooting. Just look at the gun and bullet sales.

 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:17 | 3459573 JR
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Exactly. They are out of control. There is no such thing as law in Washington, D.C. A generation of crooks has acted in our name and it has only become evident to most people that our politicians were taken over and are totally subservient to the bankers. That's tyranny.

It was TARP that awakened this "sleeping giant."

Now, the situation is to the point that our nation and the EU are breaking down badly. And the bankers want to come and take even more American value to make their system work. And that value stops at the banks.

For the moment, the militarists in the government fear American protests for the same reason there have been no widespread violent protests against the government. The reason is the Americans have guns.

As to Reid's wealth, Wayne Allen Root asked the same question: “Inquiring minds want to know how Harry Reid entered the U.S. Senate with no assets and became one of the wealthiest United States Senators?”

That wealth didn’t come from his salary in the Senate.

John Hinderaker wrote in August: “His latest financial disclosure form indicates that Reid owns assets valued up to more than $7,000,000. Prior disclosures have indicated a net worth up to $10 million. Reid has never had a high-paying job in his life, and has almost always been employed in the public sector. As a Majority Leader of the Senate, he is paid $193,400 annually. So how, exactly, did Reid acquire his multimillion dollar portfolio of real estate and mining interests?

by John Hinderaker

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/08/is-harry-reid-the-nancy-pelosi-of-2012.php

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 03:03 | 3459798 lakecity55
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Gee, could it be Hairy Feed is a Quisling, a simple Traitor?

Should he not be swinging from a rope after a fair trial?

The Enquirer wants to know.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 02:58 | 3459796 lakecity55
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I would add when your pResident has a documented false BC, can't pass E-Verify because of a phony SSN and also has a proven fake draft registration you are all in trouble.

Wake up, you're being played.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 08:09 | 3460097 therearetoomany...
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Meh...don't take Americans to do anything but ask the 'man' for more.   They've been rolling over, every month, 90 million on disability?   A quarter of our population is disabled?   Puuuuuleeeze.   

This asshat was re-elected?   Harry Reid?  Pelosi?  Boehner?   Graham?   Bloomberg?   Schumer?   McCain? 

And this is the citzenry that is going to rise up?     

Would that it were...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:50 | 3459128 lotusblue
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Oh Yes !  And "Patriotism is the virtue of cowards". Oscar Wilde.

Bla Bla Bla Platitudes.

Walk fearlessly with kindness for all.That's about all one can do

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:36 | 3459619 Kirk2NCC1701
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+100.

Patriotism is what the poor and brave "Cannon Fodder" have, to save the assess, assets and lifestyles of the rich, powerful or famous. It's been that way ever since losing generals stopped falling on their swords. With damn few but commendable exceptions.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 02:54 | 3459791 lakecity55
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Patriotism is love for one's country and it's People.

It also requires a healthy suspicion of government and a willingness to defend oneself and his community.

Collectivisim Kills.

Adam Smith's way = Freedom.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:56 | 3459139 A Lunatic
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"Captain, my religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. Captain, that is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave."

-Stonewall Jackson-

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:00 | 3459154 Icantstopthinki...
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I'm a runner.

I signed up for two races today.

Better use those freedoms before they become rarer than a 32oz soda in NYC.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:16 | 3459200 ShrNfr
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In S&W we trust. All others pay with their freedom.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:18 | 3459206 Seize Mars
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I am not terrorized. That's for sure.

Consider where we stand today: we are living in an "America" where it's not off the table that the government itself is doing these attacks. I mean it's an actual possibility. In fact the evidence seems to suggest it. Can you have imagined such a thing 20 years ago?

...and in an environment such as this, you want to hold on to little pieces of paper with occult symbols drawn on them? For what, exactly? What are you "trusting" in?

Fuck this place.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:27 | 3459228 dick cheneys ghost
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Fox News and the Neo-cons sure are hammering the "Pakistani Taliban" ........they are not outright placing blame but by saying "Pakistani Taliban" every 10 seconds they are pointing alot of fingers........

 

from Pepe Escobar.......

''Construction is nearing completion on a natural gas pipeline linking Iran and Pakistan, a project that portends a huge geopolitical shift. As regional powers strengthen ties in this key energy market, they're looking to China, and away from the West.''

 

http://rt.com/op-edge/iran-pakistan-syria-pipeline-843/

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:10 | 3459356 Freddie
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You are moron if you watch TV or Hollywood's crap.  Keep supporting The Matrix.  Nice job serf.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:25 | 3459415 dick cheneys ghost
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freedie, So thats you sucking Bill Kristols dick, I always figured you for a neo-con...........I dont even own a TV.....I was at a neighbors house for dinner, they had the news on

 

So go fuck urself

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:54 | 3459520 pods
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I find the irony delicious that he uses a movie reference to disparage movies.

pods

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:48 | 3459506 JR
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It’s telling when the founders of neo-conservatism, Zionist Norman Podhoretz and his wife Midge Decter, have called for and are anticipating World War III -- obviously for reasons of plunder, power and world control of human and natural resources.  Fox News and Murdoch's Weekly Standard are their primary media tools, along with radio weed, Sean Hannity.

Warmongers such as these neo-cons are looking for an excuse to kill, and they always find one. And one way they excite hatred is by mocking another man’s faith such as did Martin Scorsese’s fictional anti-Christian film, The Last Temptation of Christ, or by planting a false flag as did Ariel Sharon when he accused Al Qaeda of having terrorist cells in the Gaza Strip and Lebanon. Or by exciting greed.

The neo-con backed American war machine looks at people not as people but as cannon fodder or fire bombs or drone attacks or collateral damage. How ironic that while many Americans claim to cherish life, they draw a line on Muslim or Palestinian life...or whomever else they are carefully taught to hate.

Ron Paul said this past February in Beware the Consequence of Preemptive War:

“Particularly in the past decade or so, we have lived in a society increasingly marked by belief in the use of force as a first and only option. We have seen wars of preemption and aggression, everywhere from Iraq to Pakistan to Libya, Yemen, and elsewhere. We have seen an unprecedented increase in the use of drones to kill overseas, often resulting in civilian deaths, which we call “collateral damage.” We have seen torture and assassination (even of American citizens) become official US policy. When asked by Senator Ron Wyden… if the president has the right to assassinate American citizens on US soil, President Obama’s nominee to head the CIA, John Brennan, could not even give a straight answer.

“The warning that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword" goes not only for individuals but for entire societies. It is a warning to all of us. A country or a society that lives with the violence of pre-emptive war in fact self-destructs.”

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:45 | 3459635 Kirk2NCC1701
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Go Wyden!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:39 | 3459251 Nimby
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The citizens of Boston nearly uniformly believe that the government will protect them, and thus I need not have the right to protect myself.

You can deny reality, but you can't deny the consequences of reality.

Fuck Boston.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:27 | 3460669 SoNH80
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Fuck you, mkay?  You are probably from one of those towns where the Dairy Queen is called "fine dining" and stink-fingering the 3rd runner-up in the 4-H pageant in the back of a Dodge is called a "marriage proposal".

Boston, city and metro, still has many, many freedom-minded people, in fact, Boston fought for freedom when your dogshit fly over state hadn't been stolen from the Indians yet.  I prefer the company of a pinky-ring meathead "union delegate" type Bostonian to some snake-handler KKK idiot anyhow.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 21:58 | 3464529 Nimby
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Actually, I'm from Boston.  I fled when I had the chance.

No one in Boston is "liberty-minded".  If they were, they'd leave and stop giving the majority the weight of their presence. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:43 | 3459261 EvlTheCat
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"THOSE WHO BEAT THEIR SWORDS INTO PLOWS END UP WORKING..." something .. something .. something...

In one ear and out the other, on the general public, there Michael.

Hi, my name is Tinfoil Hat and I believe in freedom... You got here just in time. Have some coffee and a cookie. Soon you will be cured of your individualism. You poor dumb bastard.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:50 | 3459286 zerosum
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Commenters on this site are sub-YouTube. It's like the Alex Jones Financial Network. Think I'll log out forever now.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:05 | 3459334 A Lunatic
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ROFL!! Good one.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:13 | 3459369 IridiumRebel
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AJFN: For all your financial advice post apocalypse!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:21 | 3459686 bunnyswanson
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The Americans do not realize what a great country is in their possession.  Climate and landscaping offer everything one could ask for.  The generations who suffered breaking the ground for this citizen friendly infrastructure have also been forgotten.  Distant living has led to the stories and wisdom earned from mistakes don't happen around the dinner table on Sunday. 

Collaborators are the last to go.  Question everything.  Read everything.  Listen to it all. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:55 | 3459298 noless
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i don't understand boston, i'm sorry to the victims; but seriously, three dead? are you blind and deaf? do you understand what your government is doing in your name? this shit is insane. the prop doesnt effect me, i'm too far away.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:29 | 3459441 Oldballplayer
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I don't think anyone in Boston thinks that when they get on the T in the morning they will be blown up.

The media is trying to make something more dramatic than it is

And if I were a Sandy hook parent, I would stay home. Bad shit seems to follow them around.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 11:06 | 3460858 mumcard
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Just like SEAL team 6.  They have to get them in the ground because they're potentially witnesses to the truth.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:02 | 3459321 rich_wicks
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Nobody here is terrified that I've seen.

The "everybody is scared" is overblown.  3 people were killed, that's unfortunate.  I'm not at all worried about being killed by a terrorist, or even a general murderer really.

What nut is?

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