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Venezuela President-Elect Warns Opposition Protests Are A Death Wish

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President-elect Nicolas Maduro has stern words for his opposition, Henrique Capriles, who lost by an apparent 1.8% of the vote (the closest margin in 45 years) and is demanding a recount. Capriles is urging his supporters to take to the street tomorrow to push for the recount, but Maduro warned doing so is a "death wish," as Bloomberg reports, he added, "going to downtown Caracas will fill it with blood and death." With little to lose in this zero-sum game, the protests have already turned deadly with 61 injured and 7 dead. The government's refusal to complete the recount is polarizing the country, "if supporters lose faith in formal politics, the violence will become unpredictable." The images and clips below suggest things are escalating rapidly as Maduro has called the election a choice between capitalism and socialism warning Spanish corporations such as Repsol that they could face 'exemplary action' from his government. The violence of the 2002 coup against Chavez is fresh in people's mind, but today's situation is far more worrisome since the relative legitimacy of Maduro is less clear.

 

 

 

 


 

Via Bloomberg,

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Maduro, who was proclaimed the winner by the electoral council yesterday, said he’ll come down with a “hard hand” to prevent violence.

 

Henrique Capriles Radonski, who lost by 1.8 percentage points, urged supporters to take to the streets with him tomorrow to press the electoral council in Caracas to manually recount all ballots.

 

You won’t go to downtown Caracas to fill it with blood and death,” Maduro, 50, said today in comments broadcast on state television. “This is a chronicle of a coup foretold.”

 

The closest margin of victory in 45 years may lead to an environment of distrust and institutional collapse,

 

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Maduro, who had 50.8 percent of the votes, said today that the electoral council has carried out a 54 percent audit of the election results and found no evidence of irregularity. ...

 

Protests across the country have also left 61 injured and led to the arrest of 135 people, Public Prosecutor Luisa Ortega Diaz said. Opposition protesters have attacked health centers and local offices of the ruling socialist party, Maduro said.

Capriles, who had 49 percent support, said he had evidence of irregularities, including videos of voters being watched by Maduro supporters while they cast their ballots, that affected about 300,000 votes.

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The government’s rejection of a reasonable request to recount the vote has polarized the country even further, driving people into the streets,” Ciurlizza said in a phone interview from Bogota. “If opposition supporters lose faith in formal politics, the outbreaks of violence will become unpredictable.”

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“We’re not afraid of violence, and that’s why we’re here in the middle of the street protesting this fraud,” said Danny Guzman, 32, an accountant who marched to support Capriles. “We refuse to live in fear under this regime, which is trying to put pressure on us all.”

 

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I am the son of Chavez,” Maduro said yesterday. “I am the first Chavista president after Hugo Chavez and I am going to fulfill in full his legacy to protect the humble, the poor, the fatherland.”

 

Maduro called the election a choice between capitalism and socialism. He warned Spain and Madrid-based energy company Repsol SA (REP) to “be careful” about their relationship with Venezuela, saying they could face “exemplary actions” from his government. Repsol has stakes in Venezuela’s Carabobo 1 heavy oil project and Perla natural gas field.

 

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“The situation could escalate to levels of political violence not seen in Venezuela since the coup against Chavez in April 2002,” Webb-Vidal said in an e-mailed response to questions. “In 2002, Chavez’s legitimacy as president was never really in doubt, but now it’s quite different: half of the country sees Maduro as the legitimate heir of Chavez, but the other half sees him as the illegitimate son.”

 

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Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:01 | 3459143 Troy Ounce
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Haha more stupid politicians.

Pity we can't get rid of them. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:00 | 3459160 Silver Bug
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People worldwide are revolting. The elite are losing control.

 

http://ericsprott.blogspot.ca/

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:05 | 3459170 centerline
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Will start with little fires here and there.  Increasing in frequency, size and severity until it is impossible to ignore that something is terribly, terrribly wrong.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:09 | 3459176 Ahmeexnal
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Pressure cooker sales are going ballistic.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:25 | 3459220 derek_vineyard
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I came here to see my daily dose of armageddon

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:23 | 3459411 Clint Liquor
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Socialism always promotes happiness. I haven't seen people this happy since Greece.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:41 | 3459482 prains
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Clint

the line up at this "ism" is fucked store is growing you might want to get in 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:09 | 3459672 Richard Chesler
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If Obama had a son, he'd look like Maduro.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 07:08 | 3459977 GetZeeGold
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If Frank Marshall Davis had a son he'd look like Obama.

 

I wouldn't want to release my birth certificate either.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 12:35 | 3461457 Harry Quant
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Coming soon to a theatre (DC) near you?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:42 | 3459486 yogibear
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People around the world need rid their countries of these wealth sucking 

state and corporate fascist.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:18 | 3460639 ZDRuX
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And who are the other non sucking and corporate fascists? The hippies?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:24 | 3459688 rich_wicks
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People are fighting over puppet A or puppet B, not realizing that the strings are held by the same hand.

Sure, this makes a great show that something could come out of it, that's the whole point.  It doesn't matter which one you elect.

Sure, people will kill each other over their chosen puppet, makes a good show that something could change, but the reality is, nothing will change.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:44 | 3459706 EscapingProgress
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A few decades from now it will be unquestionably proven that the CIA and DEA, through the sale of narcotics, funded all of this. Bloggers in Latin America are already claiming that this is the case, that the CIA and the DEA are smuggling drugs and using the proceeds to fund political opposition groups in Latin American countries. Apparently, they have already been caught.

http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/03/12/the-eyeopener-chile-contra-th...

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 12:39 | 3461494 Harry Quant
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Has a lot of similarities to the US...50/50 divide. Half believe he is the messiah and half believe he is illegitimate, and they fight fervently over it all. While the same power brokers remain securely in charge.

Maybe the new script for "divide and conquer".

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 12:28 | 3461393 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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too bad us is so pussified that this won't happen here for a long long time

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:02 | 3459161 Ahmeexnal
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Is Capriles the second coming of Simon Bolivar?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:29 | 3459694 dunce
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I do not think Capriles is up for a violent revolution, but some one else might be and Maduro has issued a fight to the death challenge. He only did that because he does not think his bluff will be called. Today he may be right, but the bet can not ever be taken off the table. This is what they are talking about when they say "live by the sword, die by the sword". Failure to get the country going could start something he can not stop. The next guy might be even worse than Chavez, because of the oil wealth, much is at stake. Capriles is not just about power and money, but many men are.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 11:59 | 3461230 JimBowie1958
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Dictators who inherit power from other dictators tend to lack the deftness and finesse of the dictator who won his power by not just force, but by guile, alliances, seduction, bribery and rewarding those who follow. 2nd generation dictators tend to only understand the use of force as they did not earn the power they inherited.

This stooge will quite plausibly bleed Venenzuela for a time till some of his own supporters kill him off and a moderate person rises who has seen the ghastliness of brute force by government.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:52 | 3459971 Bicycle Repairman
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More like the second coming of Kirschner.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:11 | 3459186 Banksters
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So true.  The black boot of the state gets tiresome.  

 

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:02 | 3459319 Anusocracy
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The left and the right boots of the state get tiresome. Neither is worth a shit.

 It's about time people start considering panarchism: so all the flaws of the different types of government can be compared.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:00 | 3459152 dolph9
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What the fuck is wrong with the world?

Are humans incapable of governance?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:02 | 3459164 centerline
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Yes.  Terminal at this point.  Not all.  But enough.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:14 | 3459194 Banksters
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Two huge questions. I told the pessimist in me to shut the fuck up.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:32 | 3459235 booboo
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self governance? No, they beg to be led like sheep to the slaughter. Best stay out from between folks wanting to be enslaved and the masters competing to beat them, not unlike domestic violence usually the mediator is the one that is going to be killed. Take care of your own and let the ship sink.

 

 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 12:29 | 3461412 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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like esau, they have traded their birthright for table scraps... traded freedom and liberty for state welfare and food stamps... these people should have no say in self governance....

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:51 | 3459282 I am on to you
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No sir,politicians,you know,these bought by the lobbyists,they are unfit,due to servere corrupt illness,in common tung,its called greed!

They might have passed,, The Madoff Northpole mirrors!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:05 | 3459333 Anusocracy
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The humans are capable of self-governance.

The rest aren't really human.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:00 | 3459929 negative rates
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It's just war of the dry powder varity, no big deal. It will be over shortly.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 07:12 | 3459991 msmith9962
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I'm starting to think the new generation really does think differently.  I'm not old but was raised pretty old school.  New poeple dont think to leave things as you found them or better or to think of others first.

Infinite politicians.  Few leaders.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:59 | 3459155 toady
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A choice between capitalism and socialism....

A choice between isms is no choice at all.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:18 | 3459204 Banksters
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People are usually given decisions to make off of false premises eg, tax more or less, instead of why tax at all.  They get sucked in like moths to flame and never ask the deeper questions.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:25 | 3459222 Papasmurf
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You left out kleptocism.  It's a mix of kleptomania and the other ism's.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:34 | 3459237 JR
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This is a statement of a fool. There is a choice between capitalism and socialism. It’s the same choice between freedom and tyranny. Is it a joke to laugh at freedom?  Is it funny to pull out a trick of isms.

No! Freedom is a serious, permanent matter. It is the hope of mankind.

And to suggest that we’re only dealing with isms is to make an extremely foolish statement.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:39 | 3459255 Yippie21
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x1000

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:10 | 3459359 toady
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I can see that we will most likely needed to agree to disagree, but I am curious.

Which ism do you prefer, and why?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:30 | 3459610 WAMO556
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WHISKEYISM
BEERISM

DRINKYISM OF BEERISM AND WHISKEYISM!!!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:01 | 3459660 JR
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“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace.  We ask not your counsels or arms.  Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you.  May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”  -- SAMUEL ADAMS: 1776

As Louis XVI found out, mankind will not willingly be a peasant with a “noble” riding on his back.

It was the spark of freedom transferred and ignited in the New World that created the wonderment of man's achievement that socialism is now destroying in America. That spirit was the thirst for freedom of religion on the deck of the Mayflower and the persistence of men such as Samuel Adams, and the oratories of men such as Patrick Henry.

That spirit that was sweeping this New World outpost was the freedom for man to protect his God-given rights.  And in this instance, “God” was the operative word in that true Christianity was the foundation of the belief that men were equal and deserving to be masters of their own lives under the guidance of God’s protection. 

This was the guiding principle for Jefferson’s forceful statements and Madison’s careful words of law.

How, otherwise, could one explain the unification for the creation of America and the consequent growth of Western Civilization in spite of the greed and ruthless militarism of the world all through the years?

Capitalism involves the private ownership of the means of production; it does not mean stealing the means of production that describes a banker-controlled economy. As for socialism, socialism is Marxism and it has never worked except where capitalism has either bailed it out or supported it, such as with the Soviet Union, when the US had to feed its starving citizens.

As Charles Gave of GaveKal Research wrote in "JESUS: The Unknown Economist," Socialism is not the heir to the Enlightment, it is the rejection.

"A socialist believes he has a mission to interfere in our civil or economic liberties...

"The enemy is rampant socialism and its ally, statism, which curb our individual liberty and which amount to what has been called a 'soft dictatorship... underneath it, meanwhile, simmers the hatred of other people - the class struggle - even when that concept has been officialy abandoned."

As Gave says: "Every Christian must recapture for himself the insight found by John-Paul II, Solzhenitsy, and Lech Walesa, and given to us by Christ.

"The fundamental Gospel postulation is individual freedom. When a majority of Christians are convinced of this truth, our political and cultural people will change sharply. France and Europe will have another of the spectacular recoveries which have characterized our History."*

*translated from the French

Gave's book is not about religion but about economic life, in the light of the Gospels, and reflections in light o his personal experience on how best to act in the modern business world.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:22 | 3459687 iDealMeat
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And the first order of business for these "god" created equal men..  Import Slaves.. Religion is oppression. You're never going to be free until you rid yourself of that BS..

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 02:24 | 3459763 JR
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Slavery has been with mankind for several thousand years... but it wasn't a feature of the Pilgrim faith or that of the Christian religion. The message of Christ, that all men are made in the image of God and that all men are equal in His eyes, swept the world like a wild fire engulfing a dry wheat field, and no where was the message more strongly received than by men who had lived their lives as inferiors, as slaves. It broke the psychological chains that bound them and made them free.

And American led the way to abolish slavery. In 1808 a law was passed in the United States forbidding the importation of slaves.

New research by J. David Hacker, a demographic historian from Binghamton University in New York, has recalculated the death toll in the Civil War to 750,000, a war fought allegedly to free the slaves, most of them imported by the slave trade managed by Jewish ship owners in Newport, RI. Does that not say something about America's principles and the price that Americans paid for the rapaciousness of slave traders and a minority of slave owners in America?

There also were many white indentured servants in America, grateful to work for their freedom in America, because the poor of Europe lived lives but little different from those of slaves; many were even worse off. At least slaves were fed and clothed by their masters but Europe's poor had no such comfort.

Contrary to MSM lore, there were white slaves long before any blacks were enslaved, except by their own people, Even the word slave came from ‘Slav” because some of the early Roman slaves were from Slavic countries. There were millions of slaves in the Roman Empire – Greek slaves as well as slaves from England and Gaul. Read the Bible, even if it’s just to learn some history.

In the wars in Africa, when the war was over, the victor took the losers as slaves or he killed them so they could not attack again.

There were slave raids on the coast of England and Ireland by slavers from Africa. One whole village, Baltimore, on the Irish coast, in 1631, was carried off in a raid.

According to Wikipedia, opposition to the slave trade, whatever color, began in Britain, America, Portugal and in parts of Europe, On the Atlantic Slave Trade: Opposition to the trade was led by the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) and establishment Evangelicals such as William Wilberforce.

"Under the leadership of Thomas Jefferson, the new state of Virginia in 1778 became the first state and one of the first jurisdictions anywhere to stop the importation of slaves for sale; it made it a crime for traders to bring in slaves from out of state or from overseas for sale... The new law freed all slaves brought in illegally after its passage and imposed heavy fines on violators. 

"The United States Congress passed the Slave Trade Act of 1794 which prohibited the building or outfitting of ships in the U.S. for use in the slave trade. In 1807 Congress outlawed the importation of slaves beginning on January 1, 1808, the earliest date permitted by the United States Constitution for such a ban."

Et cetera…. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 04:58 | 3459884 Colonial Intent
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"Slavery has been with mankind for several thousand years... but it wasn't a feature of the Pilgrim faith or that of the Christian religion."

ROFLMAO, It's in the feckin bible ya moron.

Colossians 3:22

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Serve them sincerely because of your reverent fear of the Lord.

Ephesians 6:5

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Do any of you gandalf worshipping fantasists ever read the holy books?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:42 | 3459915 ronaldawg
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Idealmeat and Colonial Intent - two strawmen in a row - Are you a tag team?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 07:19 | 3460003 Colonial Intent
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Now you made me go and read his comment and give him a upvote, cheers.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:03 | 3459934 negative rates
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Religion has no end, it's been talking in circles for as long as I've been able to cry.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 12:42 | 3461526 JR
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Do you recall Aesop’s story of "The North Wind and The Sun"?

 “’The North Wind boasted of great strength. The Sun argued that there was great power in gentleness.

"’We shall have a contest,’ said the Sun.”

The Sun won.

"’How did you do that?’ said the Wind.

"’It was easy,’ said the Sun, ‘I lit the day. Through gentleness I got my way.’"

Christ, i.e., Christianity, is the Sun. And on the slave issue, Christianity wins.

Paul’s mission was not to engage in force, in war, to win the slave issue. His mission was to win mankind's heart through love, by explaining the nature of the church and salvation.

And so, through Christianity, Paul began to change man’s age-old notion of slavery by revealing God’s eternal plan; and when men responded in reciprocity, life bloomed. It's God's formula.

Bible scholars explain: “Paul does not condemn or condone slavery, but explains that Christ transcends all divisions between people.  Slaves are told to work hard as though their master were Christ himself; but master should be just and fair.

“Slaves played a significant part in this society (the Roman Empire). There were several million of them in the Roman Empire at this time. Because many slaves and owners had become Christians, the early Church had to deal straightforwardly with the question of master/slave relations.… In Paul’s day, women, children, and slaves had few rights in the church. However, they had freedoms that society denied them. Paul tells husbands, parents, and masters to be caring.”

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:14 | 3460619 toady
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OK, got it, sorry I asked.

Wouldn't it be great if you had lived in the past?

Good luck with that!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:17 | 3459943 ebear
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Schism

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:17 | 3459387 Anusocracy
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It's not isms, it's innate survival behaviors.

Survive in a communal hierarchy, survive in a power hierarchy, or survive in freedom.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:27 | 3459606 WAMO556
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Dude,

Have some coke and get a frigging smile. Your TOO wound up and your head is going to explode.

I choose: MEISM.

Because nobody takes better care of ME then ME.

JUST SAYING!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:31 | 3459696 dunce
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Amen.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 04:53 | 3459880 Colonial Intent
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Capitalism = Human beings motivated by greed and fear.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:01 | 3459157 earleflorida
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ah,... one of the 'cia's' finest hours-- they hate US for our freedom

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:01 | 3459158 logicalman
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I'm pretty sure the US government has nothing to do with this.

/sarc

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:08 | 3459174 earleflorida
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of course knot'... just another name on the axis? the axis that's gone tangent

i suppose when we get done with afghanistan or iran, then back to iraq via syria,... but postponed by north korea or tied up in niger we can get around to venezuela

them damn russian and chinese never offering to foot the bill or pay a gratuity

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:58 | 3459308 ersatzteil
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If I was a betting man (which I am), I'd bet there is a huge set of loan packages, oil guarantees, Lockheed weapons export contracts and an arrangement for Venezuelan gold to be stored in the NY Fed lying somewhere around Washington, just waiting for el Presidente Capriles-Radonski to sign on the dotted line.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:57 | 3459725 Urban Redneck
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They have the exact same package on file for the Prinicpality of Sealand, what do think your tax dollars are abused for?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:44 | 3459916 ronaldawg
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Dogs of War - President Kimba would NOT approve.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:37 | 3459952 JOYFUL
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Well, at least we're gettin down to something real now...

since in the post-reality world we live in, the images beamed from the communications nexus of film\television are of more revelatory nature than anything we might stumble across in our "waking" lives, it is incumbent upon the intelligent observer to enlist the help of all available celluloid iconoclasts...

Christopher Walken 'takes no prisoners' as the protagonist of the much-underrated Dogs of War...he simply drops all pretense of 'living' post Deer HUnter and gives his total attention to presciently portraying what would become the 'really' real Merikan of the next millenium...a burned out hunk of shattered pysche in search of a reason to suicide himself agin!'...it doesn't get any better than this in the following decades of neo-con\neo-trot neoMerika...nobody spoofed themelves better than Chris! If only we could be so real!

Meanwhiles, the studied intensity of the 'cousins' can be cumbersome for us 'colonials'...so for 'comic' relief, we instinctively gravitate to the 'ol(Etonian)skool vibe of a Patrick McGoohan...whose trajectory from foreign office trooper in the darkest night of Afreaka*, to questioning quisling and ultimately, jefe supremo in the "Prisoner" series trumps all new world efforts at 'reality-bustin' and effortlessly also leaves Franco-phony cinematistes eatin dust. Number 6 was always No 1!

Though the lesson was thoroughly taught, the effort came to naught...

cause neoliberalism  n the Monty Perlerin crew convinced the Merikan middle classes to 'self suicide' and give back all of the advances of a five hundred year experiment in 'livin free' in several easy steps. 

*Danger Man -aka "Secret Agent Man" for the Merikanskis mongst us!

 

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:02 | 3459168 Aeternus
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That young man in that last picture looks like he's having a blast!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS2Z19yTuPI

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:11 | 3459180 Dr. Engali
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Make sure you turn in your guns. It's for the children.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:27 | 3459223 Race Car Driver
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There are a couple of words in your post that might not be good for you  to have in the same sentence/paragraph/post/thought going forward.

Just an FYI. The beast is watching.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:52 | 3459292 Almost Solvent
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Langley can suck my cock and massage my balls.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:12 | 3459361 A Lunatic
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You have passed the online screening portion of your TSA job application.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:19 | 3459585 YHC-FTSE
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Sublime. +1

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:20 | 3459586 WAMO556
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Now that is completely funny!!! And...your going straight to hell for making it TOO!!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:18 | 3459578 WAMO556
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You better stop shooting up road signs and California power sub-stations.

Too!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:13 | 3459193 KickIce
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Meet the new boss, same (if not worse) as the old boss...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:17 | 3459196 erlebach
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In Henrique Capriles own words (check his Facebook page): 

 

Henrique Capriles Radonski

 

¡ Qué gran cacerolazo en toda Venezuela! ¡Bravo! ¡Todos a sus casas! ¡Recuerden que mañana NO hay movilización! Hay que dejar al Gobierno solo con sus amenazas y llamados a la violencia. ¡No caer en provocaciones! El ilegítimo quiere violencia para que no haya conteo voto por voto con revisión de los cuadernos de votación y actas de escrutinio.

 

He says: "Remember that tomorrow there is no mobilization". He is telling everybody not to demonstrate. He does not want violence. 

 

The situation in Venezuela is very sad. Maduro is already taking a hard line. He is obviously scared. 

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:40 | 3459259 ersatzteil
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Of course Maduro's scared, he sees the opposition leaders flying to and from Washington, frothing at the mouth over their opportunity to reinstate Venezuela as a dutiful client of the U.S.

I don't think these so-called hardliners, in the West and East alike, would come down half as hard on opposition movements if they didn't have to be constantly vigilant of Western agents actively supporting the destabilization and eventual overthrow of their democratically-elected governments.

If Maduro knew he could carry out Chavez-era reforms, sell oil in whatever currency is best for his country to whichever country he wants without fearing an overthrow of his government by the United States, he might be more open to giving voice to opposition movements, as would Russia and a host of others.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:04 | 3459318 Ahmeexnal
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Venezuela is one of the largest providers of oil to the US, and payment is in UST bonds/USD.

Chavez was a Washington stooge, just like the ayatollahs in iRan, Saddam in iRaq, Mubarak in eGypt....the list goes on.

Chavez actually voiced his support for Ogolfer not once, but many times, both during the 2008 and 2012 campaigns.

It is Venezuelan oil that keeps the US on comatose life support.  Chavez could have crumbled the US just by turning the spigot off.

Instead, his family routinely flew to NYC, Miamai, LA, and other chic US destinations on multimilion dollar shopping sprees.

While on TV, Chavez spouted all kinds of profanities against the US, behind the stage they were close buddies.

It's just like a wrestling match, theatrics and posturing in the ring, but once in the dressing room, they affectionately buttspank each other.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:41 | 3459484 Seychelles
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You're just downright cynical.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:16 | 3459568 WAMO556
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Who was it that said that Chavez was assassinated by poisoning him? Can't remember but it sounds like it is in the ballpark. Sad dam Hussein, Qaddafi, Chavez, one other rogue that isn't dead yet, adinimadjad. But he has a NUKE problem (that all of sudden became a problem) kinda like the other guys when they wanted sell oil in currencies other then the dollar.

Just saying!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:47 | 3459918 ronaldawg
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I saw on PBS one of the international observers of the election and she stated the election was fair. 

So if PBS says it was fair - it was fair - move on, nothing to see here.

Chavez could have turned the oil off at any time - he didn't - that shows a lot.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 02:16 | 3459756 Eternal Complainer
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Abso-fuckin-lutely!

The fake Saturday afternoon wrestling matches of the 70 's where the Ref always gets knocked out right at the right time while the villainous bad guys step into and double team the lone good guy in the corner with brass knuckles. Finally the Ref comes to just in time to look the other way as the Villans safely are able to put there weapons back away into their waistbands,
Great entertainment!

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:12 | 3459897 Colonial Intent
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Have you misssed your meds this morning cos that above spiel was a crock o shite.

Do some f'in reading ax.

Try looking at international relationships between rational states and how these operate instead of some whiney ass comment about your paranoia.

P.S.

Ogolfer? really?

Given bush had more time off for golfing in one term than Bambam has had in two im guessing you are slightly prejudiced against the current admin but dont worry once the repubs get re-elected all your civil liberties and 2nd amendment rights will magically re-appear in a cloud of sparkles and rainbows.

ROFLMAO.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:49 | 3459919 ronaldawg
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You need to take more meds cause you are CRAZY.  Obumeister has golfed and gone on vacation more than any other president in memory.  He is on a virtual vacation - while the economy sinks even lower.

Did I mention that Obama eats dog?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 07:18 | 3460001 Colonial Intent
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Ill patiently await the facts you are going to dazzle me with comparing O to B's golfing days.....................Yawn

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 15:45 | 3462817 ronaldawg
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The onus is on you - you brought up the point.  Show me the stats.  You don't have any. 

One point though - George W. Bush stated that he did not go golfing during the Afghanistan and Iraq wars because it would be disrespectful to the families.  So when did GW Bush go golfing then - the war was basically from 2002 on.

So Yawn - I assume you are paraphrasing Hillary Clinton "WHAT DOES IT MATTER?"  I don't know.  You brought it up.

Thu, 04/18/2013 - 12:15 | 3466831 Colonial Intent
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I did not know that, thanks for clearing that up, so according to you the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq ended in 2002.

Interesting.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:17 | 3459198 Taint Boil
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Thay have oil right? We'll be right there!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:21 | 3459201 Dr. Engali
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Thanks to repatriation they have gold too. I'm sure that we will be glad to take that heavy burden off their hands in exchange for some "help" and a plane load of Benny bucks.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:21 | 3459215 earleflorida
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yeah, but mali's got uranium, or is it niger?

ah, forget it... let's just roll-up all of north africa and give it to israel for a coming out 'part`tae'?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:58 | 3459313 ersatzteil
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Giving it to Israel would sure as hell control any overpopulation issues. Forced deprovera shots for all!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:19 | 3459210 NoDebt
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Sounds like what Obama is going to say as he enters his third term.

I know some real whack-os that think he's going to manufacture a "terrorist" event near the end of his second term, engage the War Powers act, cancel elections and declare himself President again for an "indeterminate period."  So, if you think you're a hard-core conspiracy theory guy, you might want to check out what the REAL paranoid can come up with.

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:19 | 3459211 foodstampbarry
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Shitz gettin' real.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:20 | 3459212 Rusty Shorts
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Foster The People / Pumped Up Kicks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLK7hrRijes

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:23 | 3459216 Yen Cross
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  Sad,so very sad.  Two ' Meatballs" FIGHTING OVER ( oil)

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:22 | 3459593 WAMO556
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I just had coke fly outta my nose after reading your comment.

Hookers and blow!!!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:24 | 3459219 ebworthen
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If you don't go along with the President, you will be punished!

Drones will be deployed!  Your assets will be confiscated!  Your guns will be taken!

Do not resist!  Do not fight!  We care only about you, your safety, and the safety of the nation!

Now, dear reader, we must transition from the U.S.S.A. to Venezuala to cover the story about the story...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:28 | 3459229 thisandthat
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From euronews: the demo was called off. Also, apparently Maduro accused Capriles of being a fascist.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:32 | 3459232 loveyajimbo
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Judging from his response to the recount request... one might think there was something smelly about this election... can we send them Fat Janet Neapolitano and Joe Biden to calm things down??

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:31 | 3459233 TNTARG
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Hey, "the relative legitimacy of Maduro is less clear"? It's the legitimacy of the so call Democracy, pal. Maduro won against pro corporations Capriles (helped by the USA, CIA) for more than the 50% of VOLUNTARY voting, using the most auditate and transparent electoral system in the World.

That's all, folks, like it or not.

If they insist in modifying the results, we're gonna see a lot of blood on the streets and in the end, Maduro will still be the winner. They've tried so many times to grab Venezuela's oil again but I believe people knows too much for that to happen, at least for now.


Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:46 | 3459271 JR
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Calling for a recount is hardly an act of war, is hardly asking for a "death wish," or a reason to fill downtown Caracas “with blood and death.”

 If you are right about this democratic process, then surely you and Maduro can have patience enough to let it run its course.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:58 | 3459314 otto skorzeny
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really? ask all of the people that died in Iraq and Afghanistan for the US if a voter recount is a "death wish"-oh yeah- they're dead so you can't

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:31 | 3459697 JR
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I don’t need to ask them. If you’re supporting Maduro’s actions to murder his people for protesting, for wanting a voter recount, perhaps you should give some more thought to what your words mean to the 7 dead and 61 injured in Venezuela - the loss of a legitimate right for which Americans failed to protest.

“How cheap are the principles for which we do not have to fight, how easy it is to establish codes when all the while our freedom to talk has been fought for and bled for by others…not to fear because other men stood between you and danger.” – Louis L’Amour

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 04:50 | 3459876 Colonial Intent
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And yet the USA keeps funding any opposition who will give them back their oil, those pesky brown people are just living on it they dont actually own it.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 07:42 | 3460039 Zwelgje
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Remember the armed "demonstrators" of Libya and Syria. 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:02 | 3459889 flp
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Are you kidding me?  Free and transparent process.  When you control the electoral council, the supreme court both of these appointed by Chavez, plus the national assembly, the military, the national guard who handles the ballots.  It is not a free process.  You must be retarded, or a Chavista who is filling his pockets.

 

Chavez has destroyed that country.  I know people there who have had their land confiscated, their business expropriated.  TV stations closed, journalists threatened etc......

Inform yourself before writing jiberish.  Except the first two Chavez elections, all others have been tampered with one way or another.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:33 | 3459236 nmewn
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So, ummm, what was the voter turn out?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:39 | 3459248 Seasmoke
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Sean Penn will take care of it.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:56 | 3459301 otto skorzeny
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was there ever 2 bigger douchebags together in video history than when Sean Penn and Kid Rock did that Dem vs Repub garbage prior to the last election?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:50 | 3459284 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Socialists showing their true colors and intentions, and they hate us for our freedoms?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:03 | 3459326 ISEEIT
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This is where it get's 'complicated'.

These 'freedoms'....Well, we can't really all have those.

You see..All animals are equal. Deal is that some animals are more equal than others.

So eat your peas like my Momma and Uncle always taughted me.

Eyes da Preznit and I be sendin' yo' this messege.

Know what I sayin?

You all negroes now.

Welcome to Chicago playa.

This is how we do it.......

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:51 | 3459509 Anusocracy
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This is just another battle in a 10,000 year conflict between socialist minds and fascist minds.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:16 | 3459682 Notarocketscientist
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I hate Brittaney Spears..... (and America)

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:54 | 3459295 ISEEIT
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FORWARD!!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:06 | 3459342 lolmao500
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Civil war we can believe in. The CIA can arm the ``good guys`` (whoever is pro-US and pro-big corporations) to spread democracy once again... and Venezuela oil will be liberated!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:16 | 3459383 Pairadimes
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This is bullish for something, somewhere. I am almost sure of it.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:52 | 3459518 Anusocracy
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Control freaks.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:44 | 3459490 W74
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Obama's third term: "Any march on D.C. will be a death sentence.  All Americans are to hand over their guns within the next 3 days, and we will march forward to continue to secure the future...for the children."

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 23:59 | 3459524 Schmuck Raker
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Even as Americans (USA) are busy forfeiting their liberties as fast as they are informed of their existence, others in the hemisphere are willing to kill/OR DIE just to taste them, if only for a brief moment.

 

MDB, do you see what you have wrought?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:37 | 3459618 YHC-FTSE
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Fucking oil. It's a curse if you don't like licking the back passage of the potus. It's a study in the  paradox of plenty.

Sure the US has a history of running destabilization programs in Venezuela for decades, but refusing an election recount was utterly stupid and giving fuel to the cia and the multinationals waiting in the wings to take a big fat bite out of Venezuelan pie. The lure of power is so predictably corrupting.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:18 | 3459685 Notarocketscientist
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Remember this.

2 million + went to the streets of London to oppose the Iraq Lie.

If they want their war - if they want anything - they will get it.

Don't matter how many of you stand against them with or without weapons.

They will win :(

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:21 | 3459946 Ace Ventura
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Were those 2 million Londoners armed when they hit the streets? The answer to that question explains why your assertion that TPTB will win is correct, but also how it most assuredly WILL matter if there ever occurs such a stand by ARMED citizens.

 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 01:54 | 3459717 MarcusLCrassus
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Good.  Henrique Capriles is an American stooge taking his orders from Wall Street banks. 

 

Even from beyond the grave Hugo Chavez sticks it to the CIA and their economic hitmen. 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 04:08 | 3459853 Amagnonx
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Totally agree.  Despite Chavez allowing them press time, and despite the millions they obviously poured into trying to get Capriles elected - the bank failed, apparently their TV, CIA and economic attacks all werent enough.

If you want to find vote fruad I can gurantee Capriles camp is guilty - no way he could have achieved that result without massive fraud.

 

Go go Madura - and for those who think that politics in Venezuala is like the puppet show in the west - get a grip, these guys and Iran are about the only ones still holding out against the banks.

 

When violent protests start occuring during elections in a western nation, you can be sure the banksters will be fihgting for survival.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:05 | 3459892 flp
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I think the advantage definetly goes to Maduro.  He is the only one who could have rigged it.  Controlling the electoral council, the supreme court, the national guard.  There are videos of national guardsman burning ballots.  They have all the oil money. 

You have no clue what has been going on in that country.

Besides, I'd rather be in bed with the US, than with China, Iran and Russia

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:36 | 3459893 flp
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Some people here have no clue.  There has been no democracy in Venezuela since Chavez came to power.  No freedom of speech.  Property rights down the toilet.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:54 | 3459923 ronaldawg
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They are lucky if they have a fricken toilet.  The slums there are NASTY....

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:06 | 3459936 rsnoble
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That guys back is gona be sore today lol.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:57 | 3459974 Bicycle Repairman
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Radonski lost the election, and that's it.  If Bush won by 1.8% he'd be claiming a mandate.  Time to go home or face the army.  That's democracy.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 09:00 | 3460261 lindaamick
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Venezuela sits on the largest oil deposit in the world:  1.3 trilliion barrels.

The bigoil companies seek to control and own these resources.  Western governments; especially the US back them up sending in CIA and other agents to provoke instability. 

Chavez was under attack continuously. 

Greg Palast provides documentation of the real situation in Venezuela. 

I fear Maduro will be unseated even though he won the election democratically. 

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 09:45 | 3460486 warezdog
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At least Chavez rigged it so he'd win by a bigger margin, I wonder if the powers within didn't work as hard this time around for Maduro, I guess not coming from a military background he didn't have the chops to make it so or the brass balls to make a few examples out of poll workers to make sure they counted his votes twice.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 10:34 | 3460708 ross81
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Not really a choice between socialism and capitalism as Venezuela already has a mixture of the 2....no, the choice is between being America's bitch and not being America's bitch. The Venezuelan people have again chosen the latter option, hence Washington's local puppets throwing their toys out the pram and resorting to violence to get their way.

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