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Background Check Amendment Fails To Pass Senate, Gun Control In Tatters: Obama To Make Statement
Following a full court press by the Obama administration, and specifically gun tzar Joe Biden, to legislate "stronger" gun law in the last several months ever since the Sandy Hook massacre, the initiative may have just suffered a terminal defeat following a failure to even pass a bipartisan background check amendment in the democrat-controlled Senate. CBS reports that "In a major setback for gun control advocates, the Senate Wednesday voted down a key amendment to the embattled Democratic gun bill, signaling the increasingly dim prospects of any meaningful legislative action aimed at strengthening America's gun laws. The bipartisan Manchin-Toomey amendment, a background check expansion devised by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., Pat Toomey, R-Pa., and a handful of other lawmakers, earned only 54 votes, falling six votes short of the 60-vote threshold. Vice President Joe Biden, who led the Obama administration's months-long lobbying effort on behalf of stronger gun laws, presided over the vote."
The vote effectively kills any hope for a comprehensive law, and makes a mockery of Obama's recent aggressive anti-gun initiative:
The failure of the Manchin-Toomey amendment, which was crafted over weeks of negotiation with the aim of attracting Republican support in both the Senate and, eventually, the House, could serve as the death knell for the larger piece of legislation, though it's possible Reid will bring new amendments to the floor at a later date.
In the hours before the vote, Organizing for Action, an advocacy group that works on behalf of the president's legislative agenda, urged voters to call their senators in support of expanded background checks. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) sent out similar emails, specifically targeting a group of Republican senators who had at one point appeared amenable to the Manchin-Toomey language. Meanwhile, a pro-gun group that had previously backed the ban pulled its support.
In the end, four Republicans voted in favor the Manchin-Toomey amendment, and four Democrats voted against it, excluding Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who switched his vote from yea to nay for procedural reasons.
Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., one of those who broke with the GOP ranks, delivered a vehement defense of the bipartisan amendment in debate over the bill, and disputed the argument, touted by his fellow Republicans, that it would strip Americans of their Second Amendment rights.
"For over three decades in Congress, I have built as strong a record as anyone in this body in defending the Second Amendment. I have consistently opposed the efforts of anti-gun activists to ban guns and ammunition, staunchly defending the Constitutional rights that Arizonans hold dear," McCain said, continuing with a list citing his pro-gun credentials. But, he added, "Just as I have long defended the Second Amendment to the Constitution, I have also long believed that it is perfectly reasonable to use available tools to conduct limited background checks, as this amendment prescribes, to help ensure that felons and the mentally-ill do not obtain guns they should not possess."
"In my view, such background checks are not overly burdensome or unconstitutional," McCain said.
Obama will take the podium at 5:30 pm to speak about "commonsense measures to reduce gun violence" and justify this latest disappointment of an administration which should count its lucky stars, it has the labor force participation rate to fudge the unemployment rate with, and the Fed to ramp stocks higher, or else living in America today would be a very different thing if the full ugliness of reality was exposed for all to see.
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On top of all this the Democrats will have to deal with Obamacare coming online...
Plus Democrat voters avoid mid-terms...They're goners
Obama in 2012 and possibly 2008 - showed with ACORN and the cities that he can rig elections anywhere. In addition, the GOP/RNC back in 1981 signs a consent decree that they could not stop vote fraud. SCOUTUS upheld it before the end of last year. Unless an outside group, like voters, sues to overturn that consent decree that voters never consented to - Dems can steal any and all elections. look it up.
Let's hope so.
UPDATE 5.03 p.m. ET — The Leahy-Collins amendment fails. The proposal would have ensured the rights of lawful gun owns to purchase firearms from licensed dealers to give as bona fide gifts. The measure got 58 votes in favor and 42 against.
UPDATE 4.48 p.m. ET — With only 52 votes in favor, the Cruz-Grassley amendment fails to clear the senate.
The amendment sought to “reauthorize and improve the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), increase resources for prosecutions of gun crime, address mental illness in the criminal justice system, and strengthen criminal law by including straw purchasing and illegal firearm trafficking statutes.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/17/u-s-senate-shoots-down-backgr...
HA HA HA!
LOSERS!
Why can't McCain just flounce the republican party already? He basically votes for anything POTUS wants, yet calls Colin Powell a disgrace for the same actions
For that matter, why can't the Republican party just merge with Likud and AIPAC?
They would've voted on these bills yesterday, but they were too busy celebrating Israel's 65th anniversary.
The Democrat Party is just as bad. O is owned by Saudis, China and Israel.
Having proven that importing populations from failed cultures cannot 'fix' a failed culture, Congress, Microsoft and Google go for broke, consuming all H1B1 low-wage labor slots in a couple of days and ramping for more. The immigration bill up next...we must lower the cost of exploitation. Keep those catered lunches coming.
oil at $85, 105 or 65. takes your pick, takes your chances...
and slap a green card on all those worthless diplomas; government check please...benchmark: 200 million Americans on welfare. get your SSI disability now, in San Fran, the highest paid welfare recipients in the country.
No, No. We must not have free markets. Government is the answer.
“Two things in retrospect strike me especially…The first was the rapidity of the improvisation of order out of chaos.”
“Hundreds of people died in the aftermath of Katrina because others, including police, vigilantes, high government officials, and the media, decided that the people of New Orleans were too dangerous to allow them to evacuate the septic, drowned city or to rescue them, even from hospitals. Some who attempted to flee were turned back at gunpoint or shot down. Rumors proliferated about mass rapes, mass murders, and mayhem that turned out later to be untrue, though the national media and New Orleans’ police chief believed or perpetuated those rumors during the crucial days when people were dying on rooftops and elevated highways and in crowded shelters and hospitals in the unbearable heat, without adequate water, without food, without medicine and medical attention. Those rumors led soldiers and others dispatched as rescuers to regard victims as enemies. Beliefs matter…” Solnit
Didn't help the poor SOBs in Colorado...
The whole federal gun control is a DISTRACTION so that states can get away with destroying the second amendment!
Hah-hah.
Scheduled for 5:30 EST, which means BHO will stroll up to the podium at 6:15 EST.
Not his fault today...his mail was late.
Obama is waiting on pins and needles to see if Justin Beiber responded to his fan letter.
while dhs was stackin ammo and buying tanks with your $ you got bombed, guess you need your own tanks and ammo
Another fail for Biden throw it on the pile....
What's scary is 54 Senators actually voted for it. Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.
Arrest them, send them to North Korea.
What makes you think they would want those arseholes.
They wouldn't want them lowering the tone of the country.
Pay NKorea to keep them in their concentration camps.
Reid voted against it.... Who's buttering his bread and paying for those bus loads of union voters?
“Reid voted no for procedural reasons,” CBS News’ Major Garrett explains. “As Majority Leader, a ‘no’ vote allows him to bring the amendment up again.”
well isn't that convenient.
93 of the tratorous fucks voted for NDAA.
Yeah... their looking out for us.
The Cornyn Amendment, which would have allowed concealed-carry permits issued in one state to be valid in all other states, fails with only 57 votes.
I wish this would have passed....
Article 4 of the Constitution already requires it:
'Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State.'
States honor each other's marriages, divorces, driver licenses, auto registrations, etc. But not a right so important that it was commemorated in the Second Amendment.
What a joke, when you have to pass a statute urging that the constitution be enforced. The Bill of Rights was repealed by the USA PATRIOT Act.
Why should it be added to the original trash?
Let it pass on its own legislative bill.
"Gib' auf, du hast keine Chance! Lass' es uns beenden! Es ist einfacher für dich, viel einfacher. Du wirst sehen, es ist gleich vorbei."
Unglücklicherweise geben sie neimals auf.
das ist wahr...
Let's see.......he'll blame it on special interests (aka projecting), fear-mongering about the silly notion of a tyrannical government, and people who cling to their guns and bibles.
Yawn........
RT is reporting the US just sent 200 troops to Jordan to quell Syrian violence. Wheeee! Get that bottomless war machine fired up!
Moar US troops to a foreign country...???
Without Congressional or UN approval ?
No Sarc.... just question marx...
Do I want to watch the interminably tardy TOTUS or go out and blaze through some 30 rounders? Hmmm.
... or go out and blaze a reefer?
No drug is strong enough to make the horror of Obama go away.
I'll hit the reefer later and I have enough to share this time;-)
Did Obama visit Boston in the last few days? Does he own a white baseball cap?
You bet, here's a photo of Obama in his white cap:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nTmnzpXledI/UQhs02mIRUI/AAAAAAABGqU/PBwBQ-EUmAI/s1600/130129-skeet-031s.jpg
Case solved.
"Let me be clear - today's vote is shameful in the face of the fact that 200% of Americans support more gun control ... er ... I mean ... 'common sense measures to reduce gun violence.' Think of the childrens! Thanks to the actions taken today by the United States Senate 1000% more kids will die at the hands of crazed gunmen next year."
- BHO
Did he say where ?
But 90% of citizens want this. They also want to marry their gay partner who happens to be an undocumented immigrant. It's that nasty 10% who think Obama should be focused on the economy.
Oh well, he'll just have to move on to trying to destroy other freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.
And blowing the legs off Third Worlders.
When you're blown to shit in Waziristan, no one can hear you scream.
Ahhh, they bwought the widdle chidwen out.
What a fucking scumbag bringing out out these parents!
So barry the bumhacker doesn't just throw bricks on the basket ball court.. LOL!
As for exploiting these victims, would anyone expect anything less from a collection of pieces of shit with eyes?
As a gun loving redneck I make the following statement: Fuck you Obama you NWO cock sucking disgrace!
OH my god! He's pulling out all the stops! Trotting out the idiots who think background checks would have saved their kids.
If you are going to prepare a speech you might as well have props. It worked for Saddam, Stalin, Chavez....
Background checks for the Government False Flag Operatives?
Is Joe crying?
Maybe he had a sudden insight into who he is?
Oh for fucks sake, we're marching out the Sandy Hook club again!? Give it up already.
What a douche bag, Obama wheels out newton victims. I absolutely despise this man.
speaks like a pedantic prince addressing daft children
ROFL sad but true
Primetime propaganda. That is some fucking sick exploitation!
oh for the love of God ... is anybody watching this news conference?
CO already passed universal background checks. Think I'll be moving to AZ or WY in the coming years...
Don't move yet.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/15080-colorado-sh...
As self-declared ambassador of AZ, you're welcome here with open arms. We need freedom-lovers to come to the state to offset the kalifornication.
"Just four months ago, my wife Jackie and I lost our son . . . "
I'm sorry for your loss. But four months ago, dozens of parents no doubt were losing their sons and daughters to auto accidents. Should we let the grieving parents of a kid who died in a car accident decide which cars, if any, we're permitted to drive?
"It will happen. Change will happen soon". Queue next attack...
I'd have liked to green ya about 1000, but 1 to a customer around hyar.
Unfucking believable Goebbels would be proud of this propaganda.
When will the next medicated white male shoot a bunch of people to help advance his agenda?
Without the teleprompter we might here something like this:
"How many more children do we have to ki . . . er . . . how many more children have to die"
An Obama word cloud without the use of a teleprompter would consist largely of "Um".
I loved the beginning....so many sad statist faces. Biden looked like somebody stole his lunch money....
In light of this maudlin display, would it be gauche of me to point out that nothing in the defeated legislation would have prevented what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary?
The opening parent already stated that.
He said it was a "maudlin display"?
Quote:
"Thanks for coming, everybody. As you may know, I'm a prop for this stage production, and I'm supposed to put on a maudlin display that will make for an excellent sound-bite on the evening news. We all know for a fact that this legislation wouldn't have done a thing to prevent what happened in Newtown, and I know you think I probably shouldn't state that out loud, but who cares? We all know the news won't show me saying that; they'll only show my maudlin display in an effort to get some tears from their viewers."
How dare you, sir? Facts and reason have no place in such an important discussion. We should be driven solely by emotion.
It isn't gun violence, it is people violence.
That first guy was so maudlin and deluded it's sad.
What is most disgusting is how completely staged this is. 1000% BULL-SHIT propoganda. Fake crying by Biden. All fakes.
And what about the bombing in Boston? Why no word on that?
F-ign assholes. I can't watch anymore. This lecturing by BO is absolutely disgusting.
Lecturing is the right description. This guy takes condescension to a whole new level. It's almost a fucking art form.
Long Joe Biden crocodile tears.
This president is the biggest piece of steaming crap I have ever laid eyes on.
I've said that about every president since I was born. Wait until you see the next one.
Reagan was a good man, despite all the pillorying he gets, he wanted to give people liberty and choices.
Jimmy Carter was a good man too, heart in the right place, but completely clueless as President.
If only we could resurrect Eisenhower or Teddy Roosevelt or Lincoln and Washington; Andrew Jackson would be my choice for the President in the current time.
A minority in the Senate? If it was a minority in the Senate, it would have passed POTUS you turd.
Obviously Big O hasn't figured out that it's time to move on yet.
BO's pissed.
His fantasy team lost. Narcissist don't take losing very well.
Fantasy team? He handed the issue off to Biden. That's no fantasy team. Sooner or later the politicians from LA, Chicago, NYC, Phila., Baltimore... are going to have to realize that the nation understands they aren't even willing to get their thugs off the streets and the guns out of their hands. They want everyone else to change when the change you might believe in has to be in their own cities. Change the culture. Change the economic disparity. Change the PD-Citizen relations. 'You better change your minds instead."
Asshole Obama doesn't realize it's not about 20 dead kids. It's about 350 million living citizens. Why foresake inherent rights for twenty dead?
Could anybody offer the Hooks a tissue?
What a great performance....no matter how f...up i am...i would never want to be hugged by Biden or one of these REAL Criminals..what a great show^^^
90% of Americans...my ASS!
Keep repeating the 90% support lie, Mr. President...10% of the country might believe you. The rest of us know better. The American people won today...you lying sleazebags who never pass up a good tragedy and the poor useful victims to promote your statist agenda, lost. Boo freakin hoo, tissue?
What is this 90% bullshit?
Nobody asked me..........
Great news but at the same time, Kalifornia's coming BIG TIME after our guns. Regarding the Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment is the ONLY THING preventing them from all being taken away!!!!!
I can't stand this lying sack of s**t!
How does Obama live with himself.
That's a real good question, and not just for Obamma.
Dimon, Bernanke's,Rubin,Kernan,Paulson...the list just goes on and on.
Every sentence that Obama speaks in this speech is a lie.
"My fellow Americans," he lied.
He gets special injections from oligarchs like Soros and Buffett who are actually over 200 years old but they use a serum of liquid gold and the blood of unborn peasants to sustain their lives.
Delusion, denial, and ideology.
How does any rational person aware of history think that socialism in general actually helps the less-wealthy among us more than it hurts them?
Isn’t actually being able to obtain a job far better for the less wealthy than receiving greater “benefits” with less opportunity for jobs?
Who pays for the “benefits”? The business owners almost certainly pass the higher costs of having employees (due to the higher taxation, regulation (and also litigation)) on to their customers, clients, AND employees (as well as the ones not hired because of the higher costs).
In my estimation, socialism (certainly in its more extreme forms) almost always equals more government control and thus power which typically means more corruption which typically has to mean that the elite politically-connected crony beneficiaries prosper far more than anyone else -- especially those who are made more dependant by “assistance” but whom are less able to obtain a job.
What a shock it might be to these folks, if they ever thought about things rationally and economically instead of emotionally.
Does this mean we should be expecting another mass shooting soon?
Unfortunately, it's all but guaranteed. And the circumstances (like always) will be suspicious.
“Reid voted no for procedural reasons,” CBS News’ Major Garrett explains. “As Majority Leader, a ‘no’ vote allows him to bring the amendment up again.”
Now it gets nasty....
Reid's pretty close to the NRA. I think this will not go anywhere unless the NRA wants to sell out and cut a deal.
Amnesty is the real prize. If they get amnesty - the Second Amndment is toast.
I think this whole gun thing is a head fake to get amnesty passed. That is the real prize. They can wait on gun control a bit longer.
Yeah, the D.C. elites want to control the rest of us, but it ok for them to use inside information to trade stocks.
Bi-Partisan support to kill a bill that should never have gotten this far. Look at loser joe's fake smug.
I'm so fucking sick of this 90% bullshit. gah!
Biden looks like Jeff Dunham's Walter in this video!
This guy is total fucking bullshit....
Using kids and families is disgusting...
Fuck Obama and Biden.
UMADBRO?????
Every legislator who showed their true colors during all this (state and federal) need to be run out of office in the next elections. Every. Single. One.
Waaa I didn't get my way let me bitch about it. This guy is a clown.
Why is that Giffords doing standing there? Shouldn't she be checking on her husband's purchases at the local gun shops before she wants to spy on everyone elses?
Their dog is too busy killing baby sea lions for her to be riding herd on her husband.
Drop dead you parentless, communist, nigger, UN bitch
Great image management, clown: trot out the poor victims you failed (by your own definition), while people's heads are full of images of americans with legs blown off--at an iconic liberal sporting event, crawling with cops, and the markets approaching HFT fibrillation. Really a tough week for the poser-in-chief.
Tweet of the Day:
"Well, at least now Obama can pivot to the economy" - https://twitter.com/NoahPollak
Liar ! Liar! Damn Liar!
Joe Biden Fail Fail.. Fuck off
Look at the secret service asshole behind him keep nodding his head.
What's good for Smith & Wesson is good for America.
Get the sound of Our Dear Leader's meltdown after 1700 Eastern.
Elected President
Statist for life
Nobel Peace Prize
Wookie for wife
Fuck John McCain! and while I'm at it, Fuck you Bernake, Geithner, Blankfein, Dimon, Yeller, Obama, Biden, Reid, Boener, Paulson, Pelosi, Graham, Buffet, Lew, ......Shit! I have to stop:)
I love you Ron Paul and other Speakers of Truth! jd.
Bummer: "Who are we here to represent?!"
The Constitution you cock-sucker. Ever heard of the tyranny of the majority? FU, pig.
For the first time in my life I am proud of my country.
+1 for quoting the Wookie.
The families can weigh in but they shouldn't be flown to town on AF1. Be "everything we can" he means stripping as many freedoms as possible before he leaves office.
Do those people behind Obama know he ordered drone strikes that have killed hundreds of children?
Just wonderin'
Yep...he took out a teenaged boy, an American, who lived here in my suburb in DC area.... blew him to bits from the sky...kid's dad was a bad guy by all accounts, but the kid didn't get to select his biological father, any more than Obama got to select Frank Davis as his...
Is that Gabrielle Giffords?
Lookin' fine as fuck whoever she is..
You ever bang a hemipalegic? It aint half bad.
Did you hear Obama. He is going to go around Congress AGAIN. He really thinks he is a dictator.
Hey why doesn't he surround himself with the families of dead Chicago teenagers? Oh yeah, Chicago has tough gun laws.
right the fuck spot on...well done
What NRA households supported this legislation???????
Epic lulz this government is
America
If we could save one child......hey you piece of crap how about the 125 you've killed with drones in Pakistan?
Saving children isn't something he actually does. If he did he wouldn't be piling mountains of debt on their shoulders. And he'd be asking Florida to bring 'Old Sparky', the retired electric chair, out of retirement for the benefit of Kermit Gosnell. Nah, the only children he cares about are his daughters and the guy who resembled the son he never had, Trayvon Martin. Well, scratch that last one, since he wasn't exactly a child at the time of his demise.
Is he going to cry?
Look @Biden: He`s that social to his actor friends....good job to the direcot by the way..
Oh please -- I hope he wets his pants an shits himself while he's at it.
Ok, I hated the new law and it really sucked, BUT, the universal CCW thing was VERY SWEET!!!!
I travel a LOT and having to completely drive around states or secure my guns in some states and not others is a giant pain in the ass, and it makes me fell REALLY UNSAFE, for example, when I dump my guns at a friends home in VA to do some business in NY.
If you carry every day for years and years, yes, you do feel unsafe when you dump your guns. Having the guns on me all of the time feels really natural, i don't know, kinda like a Free Citizen?
The universal CCW and background checks could have very well destroyed the last remnants of States Rights by giving the Federal Government complete control over intrastate commerce through this backdoor legislation.
I don't know if I agree, I mean drivers licenses are recognized by all 50 states, what's the fundemental difference between a DMV License and A CCW License?
The scary part was the inclusion of mental health.
Who gets to define "normal"
Remember the teeth of the NDAA, any belligerent act brands you an enemy of the state.
Who gets to define belligerent?
Thats so far beyond a slippery slope it might as well be a cliff.
The licensing aspect alone would not create such an issue. The Feds do not currently have control over intrastate transactions; in fact it is argued that guns manufactured and sold within State boundaries are not under Federal control at all. Once the Feds clear this hurdle through "background checks" then it's simply a matter of a court challenge and subsequent SCOTUS ruling in favor of the Feds and then it's on to a shitload of federal oversight in everything from internet sales to garage sales..........Hell you name it, no stone left unturned. Do not think for one second that these assholes are going to give you something, They Will Not.......
You would think the lessons of incrementalism would be firmly established at this point, fer craps sake..
It should be dealt with by reciprocity agreements between states (we honor your rules for your citizens in our state). How one state does business shouldn't be dictated by the other as long as they both abide by the 2nd amendment here. How each does is a right of the individual to choose type of issue. if 2 or more states want to come up with an agreed upon unified way to deal with it that is even better.
here is my statement to you obama
FUCK YOU YOU BASTARD
Appreciate reading all of your comments; much better employment of one's time than actually watching said event.