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First Picture Of Captured Terror Suspect Released

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The 19-year old Dzhokhar has seen better days...

 

and the boat he was hiding in...

 

h/t @Breaking911

 

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Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:28 | 3476018 Terminus C
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Haha, you are a fucking idiot.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:18 | 3475634 WoodMizer
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Looks like the unemployed, starving youth of the Euro Zone to me.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:19 | 3475651 CheapBastard
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So are they going to forget that guy seen on the Grassy Knoll?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:19 | 3475652 uno
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Revealed: 'Relaxed Boston 'bomber' partied with college friends two days AFTER marathon massacre

  • Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, 19, was spotted by a fellow University of Massachusetts student at a party on Wednesday night
  • College pass analysis reveals he was on campus, working out before going out with soccer team friends
  • Behavior came night before massive shoot-out which killed his brother 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev and two days after marathon terror attack

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311580/Boston-bombing-suspects-brothers-Dzhokhar-A-Tsarnaev-Tamerlan-Tzarnaev-links-Chechnya.html#ixzz2QxxPxG4O 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:24 | 3475675 otto skorzeny
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manchurian candidate-turns the brain on at the flick of a switch

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:20 | 3475659 lolmao500
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He will have an accident at the hospital... if he ever makes it there.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:20 | 3475660 Van Halen
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Anyone in the media want to comment on the irony of the President of the United States speaking on terrorism when his best friends who launched his career are two members of the murderous Weather Underground?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:41 | 3475777 Monedas
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Bomb the Pentagon .... kill a cop .... get out of jail free card .... that's the Chicago way !     www.obamasrealfather.com

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:42 | 3475781 rhinoblitzing
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Open up the white house guest list.. and while your in Boston - How about those college papers... How about those passport documents.... How about the reverand wright....

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:21 | 3475663 Jack Burton
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Lots of new information on these guys has come out today.

The older brother was questioned by the FBI in 2011 on the request of a foreign nation concerned about his links to Muslim terror movements in that nation. This clearly must be Russia and their concern over his links to Chechen terrorists.

It now appears the older brother had posted lots of social media that pointed to Muslim extremism and support for Jihad.

The mother of the two was arrested for shop lifting in Boston a few years back. She gave an interview to RT in Moscow where she called the FBI out for harrassing her kids. She called them innocent and persecuted. She said someone set them up, i.e. this is a flase flag

The family came to America as part of the US program of support for the Chechen fighters who were trying to take over Chechnya and convert it from a secular Russian republic into a Muslim terror state. The US instituted a program, after the Russian army defeated the Muslim terror groups, to allow many chechens with links to the opposition groups to enter the USA as refugees. This points to the US support for Chechen seperatists being a cause of this blow back event.

The Chechen terror movement is little know inside the USA, but in Russia the Muslim Jihadists from Chechnya have carried out numerous bombings and shootings. Including some of the worst terror attacks in history. The worst being the school they took over, killing hundreds of kids. And the Moscow theater kidnappings. Plus Airport and subway bombings in Moscow.

The FBI might have gone easy on the older brother because they didn't want to look like they were supporting Russian claims about the US harboring Chechen terrorists. If so, they will try and cover that up now that freedom loving chechen heros are blowing up Americans, instead of Russians

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:24 | 3475684 otto skorzeny
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more CIA blood legacy.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 01:48 | 3476329 LetThemEatRand
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Jack,  Thanks for the insight.  How sad that we need to read this here buried as a post at ZH  when we have 24 hr cable, internet news, etc.  

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:28 | 3475687 dick cheneys ghost
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Jack, Is it possible that this is blowack from the Russian Mafia for the hit they took on the Cyprus bail-ins?

The Russian Mafia is brutal, right?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:42 | 3475782 Debugas
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it could be but you may never know for sure.

The two boys could be a terrorist cell getting orders from some higher jihadist. Someone could have decided to trigger it. But it is all speculation at this point

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 03:33 | 3476405 Herd Redirectio...
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Most likely some of the elites knew about the scheduled marathon bombing, and decided to conclude a 2 day attack on gold and silver prices just prior to it.   They like to accomplish multiple goals simultaneously, so instilling an atmosphere of fear (has worked) and trying to induce panic selling of gold and silver (has not worked) is probably what 'they' were after.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:27 | 3475692 tarsubil
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America, more and more, a country of versions. Sad thing is I don't like any version of this bullshit story.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:29 | 3475708 Van Halen
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Interesting that both these guys had jihadist stuff all over their social media but the government alphabet agencies totally missed this.

The older one was actually married to the girl we heard about earlier. They have a 3 year old daughter. Early reports appear to be that he had smacked her around and got into trouble for domestic violence over it. But he was not deported. She and the kid have been living with her mom.

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:40 | 3475763 newengland
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Distance usually lends perspective. Not in your case on this issue, apparently.

You last paragraph is ridiculous. The rest of your opinion is your interpretation of failed Internationale, failed Immigration policy, failed DHS, failed Washington DC.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:44 | 3475796 Jack Burton
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Well. when you confront me with such facts I bow to your opinion. Please don't fact check my post, you might not like what you find. Or are you Chechen? In that case, I appreciate your opinion.

That is what I like about right wing Americans, to them, facts are only opinion,especially when they make them uncomfortable.

It hurts when the US foreign policy brings terrorists into our nation. The Older Brother visited Russia for some considerable time before he returned and carried out this terror attack. Is that too opnion?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:07 | 3475910 newengland
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You mingle facts with your interpretation, and your last paragraph was wrong.  Best separate the two for clarity.

You will find in due course that the movements of the older brother and the younger were well known to government agencies.

Next question.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 01:53 | 3476336 LetThemEatRand
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Wrong how?  Because you said so?  I'm serious.  I want to know.  Enlighten me.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:51 | 3475837 Jim in MN
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They are two perfect ciphers.  Could be paid, brainwashed, bored, ideological, sociopathic or even just hate Americans for being x or y.  You know, like the symbolic training we all get (and some absorb).

I hope some facts somehow get out.  Because the authorities can put any story they want on these two.

Sad part is, we'd probably get in a fight with Putin eventually....but now that would be a victory for terror...see?  Love the KGB up or it's baby-killing Muslim triumph.

I say fuck it all, USA Out Of Eurasia.  Seriously.  Close the bases.  We have enough oil.  Just sink any tankers trying to cross the ocean.  Let China and the Saudis deal with Putin and the fundamentalists.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:08 | 3476163 palmereldritch
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Syria, Cyprus and now Chechnya in Boston...Putin has got to be wonderin'....

Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times, it's enemy action.
- Ian Fleming*

 

*A guy who knew more than a little about the forces at play in this realm

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 08:38 | 3476628 Gene Parmesan
Sat, 04/20/2013 - 13:13 | 3477297 palmereldritch
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Interesting.  I thought Beck was a Pentagon asset.  Maybe he found religion after these events.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 03:31 | 3476404 Jena
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Security at the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi will be massive-r.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:51 | 3475838 Trampy
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Put that nonsense on wikipedia and see what happens to it. 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:41 | 3476054 palmereldritch
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 The US instituted a program, after the Russian army defeated the Muslim terror groups, to allow many chechens with links to the opposition groups to enter the USA as refugees. This points to the US support for Chechen seperatists being a cause of this blow back event.

Culturally, psychologically, logistically, these human IED drones/patsies(?) have been repeatedly set up and deployed with ruthless efficiency from the CIA's Taliban to current day Al Qaeda in Iraq, Libya and Syria.

What makes you think the highly skilled mercenary forces that construct these human bomb assets can't deploy and detonate them in a fashion that serves their exact purpose at this moment?  Does not the police state everywhere advance with this cursed swarm of pocket tyrrany and terror no matter where it appears globally?

It's not blow back...it's blow forward....

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 03:40 | 3476407 Herd Redirectio...
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Exactly.  Paid opposition.  Wouldn't it be CONVENIENT if there was a boogeyman, that the public was afraid of, and law enforcement/big gov't played up those fears, and in doing so were able to vastly increase their plunder and power?  That boogeyman for the last 11 years has been 'terrorists'.  But the intelligence agencies of the world couldn't just wait for terrorists to get on with, you know, inducing terror, so they had to give them some help.  Training, funding, sometimes you have to do it all yourself, and just use them as a patsy. 

Its tough work, this Hegelian Dialectic business of Thesis (a society with justice/freedom) - Antithesis (terrorism) - Synthesis (our response to terrorism=police state).   

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:21 | 3475665 1C3-N1N3
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Looking at that, I just reached up to the top of my shaved head and attempted to pull on hair that isn't there...

I may be a kid...but that's a kid.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:13 | 3475958 TuesdayBen
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Yeah, a kid and a willing killer

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:32 | 3476035 1C3-N1N3
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I remember everything about being 19. In the US. With internet access, a wiry athleticism, plenty of IQ points, and wonderful 19-year-old girls, etc...

Not that different, he and I.

So, how the fuck......?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:27 | 3475671 newengland
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19 years old

This is an indictment of modern failed politics, including Al-CIAda, and anyone who thinks it is ok to excite young men to kill for a 'cause'. The young men die. The old men count their profits.

John McCain and other DC career politicians should be ashamed that they support terrorism abroad, support regime change insurgents like the Chechens and Islamists, and claim to decry it at home.

Meanwhile, I want to see the evidence that this boy and his brother planted those bombs, and I want to know who else was involved.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:24 | 3475685 uno
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he should have first got a job a JPM or GS, then the Fed's would be powerless to do anything to him

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:27 | 3475694 icanhasbailout
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"ATF police"? What did any of this have to do with the ATF?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:32 | 3475716 otto skorzeny
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does not matter-I saw a Boston U cop in one of the photos with his gun drawn. Christ - the local Junior College cops are armed to the teeth-these fuckers are bloodthirsty.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:31 | 3475720 WoodMizer
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ATF is really ATFE

Alcohol, Tobacco, Friearms and Explosives

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:29 | 3475707 Dr. Engali
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So now that our attention has been thoroughly diverted .., what has TPTB been up to?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:33 | 3475731 Van Halen
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I believe that while our attention was diverted, some of the 3000 controlling the 320 million of us got the CISPA bill passed which allows the alphabet agencies to spy on us more.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:37 | 3475748 newengland
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If we do not defend the individual, then there is no common cause, no society, no honest trade. All is lost to cynical moneychangers and their bribed political pets.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:34 | 3475732 newengland
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The life and death of this boy is worth more than mere money, and finding out what happened in Boston and who was involved is the best safeguard for the Republic, and its money.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:30 | 3475711 bigrooster
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Why is that cop trying to look at his junk?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:32 | 3475715 Monedas
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Quick .... give him mouth to mouth .... with a little tongue !

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:52 | 3475835 Pure Evil
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Call in the TSA.

They can have one of their pedophiles check his scrotum for hidden pressure cooker bombs.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:32 | 3475722 tsx500
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johnny-on-the-spot CNN JUST puts up the same pic .... at 2228est , a full 23min after ZH  !!

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:09 | 3475930 Fuku Ben
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FuQ them. The MSM are like the dinosaurs about to be hit by an asteroid. 

 

Zero Hedge is like the small rodent coming out the ground in the aftermath and taking over the planet

 

Really, how many more bad actors and green screen fraudulent broadcasts will people need to see before everyone realizes its all an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the sheeple?

 

Wait, did I just call ZH a rat? 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 12:31 | 3477175 DriveByLurker
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"Wait, did I just call ZH a rat? "

 

Yes, but in a good way, so it's all cool.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:35 | 3475737 Monedas
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Quadraplegic for life .... they can't execute handicapped .... pig rodeo .... OJ showtrial .... and life imprisonment in a special care ward .... 50 million minimum for the taxpayer !

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:36 | 3475739 bigrooster
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Do you feel proud for what you have done?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:47 | 3475740 Yes_Questions
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Medic:  "Control we need medivac"

Control:  Crackle "Negative.  Public Safety Exception Protocols.  Prepare subject for rendering, immediately"

Medic:  "Control, subject is not responsive, loss of blood, pants low with underwear exposed."

Control:  short crackle "Subject high value.  Pull up pants and prepare for rendering"

Medic: "Roger Control.  Subject will be repantsed and prepared. Heil Bush!"

Control: shorter crackle "Obama be praised, out!"

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:38 | 3475758 Debugas
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ambulance took the suspect to Beth Israel Hospital

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:39 | 3475759 rhinoblitzing
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Just turned 22, I was wonderin what to do...

So the Powers That Be Left Me Here to Do the Thinkin...

Raised my rifle to my eye, never stopped to wonder why...

Shelter Me from the Powder and the Finger... Cover me - with the thought that pulled the trigger...

Just Think of me as one you'd never figure, To fade away so young, so much left undone...

Neil Young - Powderfinger

###

What you see is the face and body of teenage revolution / wasteland.

Give them a flag and a pint, and they'll burn it all down....

The leaders make them martrys for.... for what....?

All he really ever wanted to do was party, listen to some music, get laid...and maybe raise a family...

But he never knew it...

 

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:49 | 3475819 newengland
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The Paul Hardcastle song '19' describes it well, and made music history, but the $hit faced fckrs at EMi old men screwing the young do ensure that it cannot be seen or heard on the internet, without paying for it. Bastids. Just like the sort who made mainstream entertainment out of the Boston bombings, for their main scream news...with the boy aged 19.

He was bleeding out in the boat, and thermal imaging told them when he was near to death...ready to be displayed and played. Medics will try to save him, but the cynical cameras ensure they are likely to fail...all for mass entertainment.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:03 | 3475895 Yes_Questions
Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:13 | 3475959 newengland
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Well found. Cheers. Sums up then and now.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:24 | 3475996 DirkDiggler11
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You obviously don't have a fuckimg clue how thermal imaging works and you have never used a thermal scope in your life. Throw up opinionated crap if you want, but don't pull shit out your ass and just lie because you are ignorant ion the subject.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:43 | 3475789 22winmag
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Injection of zombie potion to permanetly shut him up in 3... 2... 1.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:46 | 3475798 ozzz169
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I see why he is soo pissed off, he cant even afford to eat, only had money for his pot after selling his snap cards on Craigslist.  hurry libs up snap benefits they are starving and going nuts!

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:47 | 3475810 Cabreado
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Somewhere along the way, we must recognize that the spectacle-nature of this is evidence of an underlying, fundamental problem...

and I'm a bit disappointed that ZH is playing along.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:55 | 3475851 JR
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A lot of reputations will be made and a lot will be ruined, depending upon how they handle this.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:48 | 3475813 Hongcha
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Tuning out this sideshow now.  No more.  Enjoy the weekend gentlemen.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:00 | 3475874 Bingfa
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No kidding, lets get back to to watching the slow motion destruction of America.....

 

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:03 | 3475901 Dr. Engali
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Gentlemen? This is fight club... There are no gentlemen hear. Well maybe a couple girls men, but certainly no gentlemen.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:15 | 3475963 Pure Evil
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I'm only gentle when I'm pulling out. I like to hear them squeal on the way in.

Soooooooeeeeeeee, here little piggie.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:48 | 3475825 JR
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To suspend Miranda rights as apparently the FBI is suggesting, to override Constitutional guarantees and engage in torture as Islamophobe Lindsey Graham suggests, to throw out guarantees worked out and fought for since America’s founding is the reason America is in this world ethics crisis.

How low will America go to destroy its foundations, its morality and its rule of law? Will the pursuit of Israel’s enemies lead us to treat the entire world's peoples as if we all are Palestinians?

American citizens have to be handled as American citizens. If there are exceptions then the authorities can except anybody; any banker, any politician could be excepted from the rule of law; any citizen could be railroaded and lynched by the government.

We are not a monarchy, we are not a dictatorship; we were to be a country based on laws that protected all citizens equally – not equally except if the FBI or Lindsey Graham or Barack Obama decided that its to be different.

I was reading comments on Russia Today. One commenter suggested some of the best coverage was on Info Wars. Here is some of what I found:

Senator Wants Suspect Held as Enemy Combatant

South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham is demanding that the Constitution be discarded and the suspect be treated as an enemy combatant despite the fact he is American citizen.

Graham said Tsarnaev should not be afforded the protection of the Fifth Amendment and suggested he be tortured to extract information.

Lindsey Graham        ? @GrahamBlog

The goal is to gather intelligence and protect our nation which is under threat from radical Islam. #Boston

Lindsey Graham        ? @GrahamBlog

The Law of War allows us to hold individual in this scenario as potential enemy combatant w/o Miranda warnings or appointment of counsel.

Facebook Blocks Infowars Post on Suspicious Men Wearing Backpacks

Infowars.com | For some reason, the folks at Facebook are blocking an Infowars post saying it is “spammy” or “unsafe.”

http://www.infowars.com/

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:58 | 3475869 newengland
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I don't recall asking for Graham's advice, and nor does anyone else in Boston. He's grandstanding over the bodies of people he cares nothing about, except that they serve his political purpose.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:01 | 3475890 Dr. Engali
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Lindsey Graham needs to go away along with his friend John McCain. Both of those guys are a pox on our society. I can think of about 800 more but right now those two right up there at the top.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:18 | 3475975 DarthVaderMentor
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All you need to do is ask Graham and McCain if the brothers used legeal or illegal firearms. If they used illegal firearms, the NRA will have one more nail in the coffin of gun control. If they did get them illegally, then the background check process is a joke and they both should have voted against it.

BTW, while you're at it, ask him how he felt about forced home searches and martial law without any search warrants and a declaration of martial law? I guess with terrorism we can dispense with the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.....

 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 09:43 | 3476685 Common_Cents22
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did residents refuse searches?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:10 | 3475945 azzhatter
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why are you on facefuck.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:21 | 3475987 Vic Odd
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Hahaha.Thanks for posting that

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:34 | 3476049 JR
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I’m not on facebook.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:42 | 3476079 Jim in MN
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Wait, this isn't Facebook?  Crap....gotta go...

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 06:29 | 3476501 Bearwagon
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+1 for not being on fuckbook

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:04 | 3476150 Professorlocknload
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South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham is demanding that the Constitution be discarded and the suspect be treated as an enemy combatant despite the fact he is American citizen.

So, it this new?  Let's ask FDR;

http://www.freeinfosociety.com/article.php?id=10

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 01:49 | 3476330 Bunga Bunga
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Morally he puts himself on the same level as other barbarians.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:49 | 3475828 Jack Burton
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One thing is sure. The debate over domestic drones has just been won. The argument against domestic drones used by police and FBI is now officially over.

All they need point to is the Boston terror attack and nobody can argue against domestic drones keeping constant watch out above us.

Just when some states were defeating drone plans, this comes along and we will never look back. The skies will be full of them in double quick time.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:56 | 3475860 Jim in MN
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Have you been drinking again?  Cuz you're slurring. 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:59 | 3475877 rhinoblitzing
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It's just one operation after another -

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:37 | 3476060 Blano
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It wasn't a drone that found him, it was some old fart.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 09:44 | 3476689 Common_Cents22
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old fart w/ brass balls to look in the boat after seeing blood on it.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:42 | 3476078 JR
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Fortunately, you are mistaken. The growing police state will be turned back, because it must be. I believe in physics. If you take a look at all of the mixture, you can see it can’t succeed: you can’t get people to say we just give up. The media is painting a false picture; because they are in league with the warmongers.

The west was won by fighters, both gun fighters and pioneering families.

The frontier demanded that men be self-reliant; that they not succumb to group-thinking or peer behavior except in very limited applications.

America faces a new frontier. And times again will breed the men needed, strong men. It’s a matter of the mind. “If you aren’t whipped in your mind, nothing can whip you.”

The strongest men are those who refuse to succumb to the mob; men who can stand alone.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:27 | 3476212 Savyindallas
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I think there should be a drone personally assigned to watch you , your family and your closest friends. I'll give up my drone rights  -yes I might leave myself open to some terrorsit attack  -I'll no doubt lose sleep worrying that the Muslim terrorists will slit my throat as I peacefully sleep in the night  -because of their irrational hatred of me because I am free-- I will willingly assume that risk.  You can JOIN THE ADOPT A DRONE PROGRAM - I will abstain. For the rest of you apathetic bastards who don't give a shit, I leave you with these words, taken with inspiration from Leon Trotsky   -You may not be interested in drones  - but drones are interested in YOU

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 01:53 | 3476335 Bunga Bunga
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So they did not prevent this in order to get the drones? WTF?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:57 | 3475857 Monedas
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Importing terrorists .... at taxpayer expense .... was Hillary Cliton or Madeline Albright .... involved in this ?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:59 | 3475866 Jim in MN
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Yes and Dick and Condi.  The Imperium has many faces. 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:58 | 3476130 JR
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Yes, it was Madeleine who said that the “price” of 500,000 dead Iraqi children for U.S. sanctions on Iraq was worth it.

And now the price has come due.

And it was Hillary, maniacally laughing when Democrat warmonger and former Bush Secretary of State James Baker said "we have to take them [Iran] out” and “we’re the only ones big enough to do it,” who raucously cheered him on with "the best thing for us is to be attacked by somebody."

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=799_1348921063

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 22:57 | 3475864 pherron2
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So the homeowners son finds him in the boat, and notifies the cops. News fox news wants you to know that boston police helicopters used heat sensor to locate the suspect in the boat. too friggin funny!

Glad the guy's off the street, & the people of Boston can relax a bit, just a bit disgusted with all the photo-op flag waving on the news. People on the street waving flags, geez, I guess I'm missing that patriotic feeling these days.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:00 | 3475887 newengland
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The Boston bombing was a rabble rousing event. The only question is: who was involved, truly?

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:57 | 3475985 Pure Evil
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I'm just amazed they're bringing back all the gun shows on TV again.

Imagine, on Discovery this very night they're showing Sons of Guns.

Coming soon, Guntucky.

Must be prepping the knuckleheads for war in Iran/NK.

If you liked the first video, then Guntucky

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:01 | 3475884 Bloody Chiclitz
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You guys don't dissappoint. I'll crack open a Ohana Mango Faygo and read on.

What about the part where Queen Elizabeth called Soros to tell Jamie Dimon to sell Cyprus Gold to Kim Jong Un so Alex Jones wouldn't notice that Craft security let The Washington post do that thing to the 4th amendment. Don't leave that part out!

Roll on!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 05:22 | 3476465 Colonial Intent
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Feckin lizards......

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 06:29 | 3476503 Bearwagon
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Hit 'em harder!

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:01 | 3475889 22winmag
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Boston Sheeple reportedly dancing in the streets and cheering the capture of the pawn... meanwhile the real bombers in Washington slip away.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:14 | 3475955 azzhatter
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these are people who vote for john kerry  barney frank and lizzy warren

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 02:01 | 3476347 Bunga Bunga
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People got killed and they are celebrating? What an archaic culture.  

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 08:42 | 3476633 The Second Rule
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"primitive"

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:06 | 3475892 Arkadaba
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From the various interviews with his friends who all say there was no indication of terrorist leanings and he was in everyway a likeable, smart, funny and good person - to my reading of his tweets - he was a kid. His tweets look like my 19-year-old nephew's tweets - mostly inane and a lot of references to girls, popular music, parties and athletics with a few existential meanderings and references to weed.

The fact the FBI admitted that they interviewed his older brother after his mother went on national tv and indicated the FBI had been in contact with the family over the past five years is significant in my opinion. 

I don't know if this kid got caught up in something originating with his older brother or they were both set up. Or something else. I hope we find out the truth but am doubtful that we will but glad there is a chance if he lives the night.

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:23 | 3475997 Pure Evil
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The FBI finally found a couple of stooges stupid enough to go through with their insane plans.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:32 | 3476039 helping_friendl...
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set up, like a bowlin pin.
Knocked down, it gets to wearin thin. they just wont let you be, oh no.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:48 | 3476094 Fuku Ben
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FBI has been pushed down the food chain since they were aligned under DHS. They are usually playing catch up or relying on their partners in the media to cover their ass for them.

 

The MSM was already on top of the character assassination before the interview when they published the moms prior arrest and were maligning her credibility in advance of her interview. 

Critical Thinking: When attempting to reign in a dangerous felon what LEO agency doesn't contact and sit on top of all local family members and put massive pressure on them to cooperate and give up information? And yet they continue to repeatedly puts out calls to the public for assistance.


Why was the Aunt not contacted after repeatedly contacting them?She goes on MSM TV hands them their ass and AC360 maligns herto cover up their big fail and says "Clearly she is in a state of denial"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IemQiJ0QNs

 

Its all scripted garbage and the vast % of people are still mindless sheeple.living in total fear and thinking to protect and serve means them. Look at these fools dancing around in Boston. Its like the Twilight Zone "To Serve Man" They won't realize it until they're about to be eaten

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:03 | 3475900 nicoacademia
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He's quite skinny yet so powerful all the humvees swats everyone came down.

Don't mess with the Chechyans.

I guess had he shaved his head. wore specs and looked nerdy no one could've recognised him.

most guys r 200pounds of muscle but this guy is like hardgainers delight.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 11:04 | 3476919 Marigold
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Yes he is skinny but look at the size of the obese cops. Especially the 22 cops who waddled out of one house after supposedly checking it. Honestly you cannot make this stuff up ... It's pure Hollywood.
Ant then the sheeple chanting USA USA. what is that all about ! They have swallowed everything Obama preached to them. Yes Boston will run again. You Yanks deserve everything that's coming to you in the good old USSA. And don't forget God bless our men and women in uniform and God bless America.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:06 | 3475914 q99x2
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Good they got the pricks. M'Fers had to pick runners. The only sport I do.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:09 | 3475921 Debugas
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shooting at the boat (my understanding that is meant to disorient the suspect)

 

http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/04/amazing_video.php

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:28 | 3476022 helping_friendl...
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Did he survive? Sounds like NYPD in Times Square!

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:08 | 3475937 kchrisc
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Probably just another engineered "terrorist" attack that they lost control of or let happen like in OKC. These kids seem to have a similar outcast background as those poor dumb bastards that the FBI likes to use as pasty fodder.

The true rabbit hole at this stage of the police state is that we will never know the truth. Who and what do you believe: propaganda media, the pols, crats and their gun and badge thugs, certain alt-media with an axe to grind and a buck to be made?!

You can't so keep prepping because one thing is for sure: this bitch has gone off the rails and is in free fall. That sudden stop is going to hurt like hell and for a long time.

I'm just glad that I am not one of the sheeple that wiill find themselves waking up to a nightmare. hujel

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:32 | 3476219 JR
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from the LRC Blog:

 

Another FBI Operation?

Posted by Daniel McAdams on April 19, 2013 09:57 PM

As Infowars reports -- and I may not necessarily cite them but for the fact that the pattern has been demonstrated time and time again -- the Boston Bomber the Younger had been manipulated and harassed by the FBI for years. How many of the post-9/11 wannabe terrorists have been actually developed, nurtured, and supported by the FBI and other US intelligence agencies? All of them? These guys too? Will no one but LRC and Alex Jones ask the question?

Hemingway was a paranoid who killed himself over his delusions that he was being followed and manipulated by the US intelligence agencies. What a kook! Until it came out that he was in fact being followed and manipulated by US intelligence agencies.

How much more power and money do they have now, sixty years and many convenient terrorist attacks later? How many of these terrorists are the creation of the FBI and homeland security and the shadow government? Sure, it's kooky to even ask the question. But evidence shows this is a very kooky time. Maybe we can ask the Black and Tans what they think about it... Whoa, I sound like a kook.

I am on Twitter @DanielLMcAdams

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/136149.html

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:10 | 3475941 Blano
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The only part of this story I'm interested in at 10PM (Central time) and a couple beers is the ZH comments.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:25 | 3475948 AssFire
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Back in the day...I used to be able to handle my liquor.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:11 | 3475954 Bloody Chiclitz
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Oh shit! Sorry, I forgot about the Rothschild aspect.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:48 | 3476092 Terminus C
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Thank you for your contributions you blue pill swilling shill.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:15 | 3475960 are we there yet
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The term city lock down is a new one From a manual I have not read. Curfew is a term often used in civil unrest, lockdown sounds more like a prison population being controlled.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:23 | 3476199 freedogger
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It is an evcolution from the lockdown that schools practice, even up here in Canada. My little girl got to do her first one the other day in kindergarten.

They all huddle in a corner with a sheet over their heads, Teacher turns the lights off, locks the class door and hopes for the best.

This is on a ground floor with easy access to windows that open with a five foot drop to the grass.

Makes me livid. 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:17 | 3475967 Prometheus418
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Not buying it, any of it.

This whole story is so full of holes stuffed with bullshit that there's not even room for humor in it.

I hope that poor kid survives, and isn't tortured anymore by the sick fucks that run things.

Let's review, shall we?

The two "foreign terrorists" grew up in the US, and were both atheletes- one a boxer, one a soccer player.  They were both here legally.  I'm not a sports fan, myself, but I'm surrounded by people who love the hell out of them- and while some of them might kill a person if pressed, another "athelete" would not be on the hit list.  I see it all the time- people who ride bikes are naturally friends with other bikers and joggers, softball guys are buddies right off the bat with their clan and any other organized sports fan, so on and so forth.  If these two were going to blow some shit up, it would have been something that represented the "Great Satan" to them, and that they did not identify with- maybe a TV station or a McDonalds, but not a bunch of joggers.

The younger kid went to class right after the bombing, no sweat, and then attended a party where he was "relaxed."  Seriously?  I couldn't "relax" after going to a concert when I was 19, much less pull off a Mr. Cool act in public after successfully pulling off some kind of religious war terrorist act.  I might be able to do it now, but 19 is far away and faded out for me.

They robbed a 7-11?  Fuck you, that's way too implausible.  I might have bought it if they robbed and then ran far and fast- but they didn't.  They evidently blew up a bunch of joggers, took in a few lectures, attended a party and then decided that they needed to raise their profile by stealing $100 and some Slim Jims before hanging around waiting to mix it up with the Boston PD and the FBI?

The witness that helped to identify them did so after sustaining an injury that nearly made me puke when I saw it.  75% of one of the guy's tibias was taking an air-bath, and we're going to call him a reliable witness?  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's a swell guy, but a doctor offered me Oxycontin for a headache a few years ago- what do you think they gave him for that kind of injury?  I'm surprised he didn't identify the Cookie Monster and Big Bird as primary suspects after they gave him "a little something for the pain."

They had FBI handlers?  Hell, that alone says enough.  Those assholes plan more terroist attacks than anyone.

Nah.  I'm not buying it- not a single bit of it.  And I even believe that they might have been moozelims- so what.  Hell, even if they did it, I'm not buying whatever motives TPTB come up with as the offical story.  Truth be told, on a long enough timeline, any hedge reader might find themselves taking cover under a canvas tarp covering a boat.  But even granting the possibility that these two kids set those bombs (which I find unlikely, at best) I'm more inclined to call them US freedom fighters than foreign terrorists.  They weren't maginalized extremists- they were active participants in the US, and any of us have plenty of motive to strike at any target that moves at this point, if only to make a symbolic point.

Speaking of symbols, what did we see here?  This is my take.

- Pressure cookers = preppers 
- Gunpowder = Gun owners/NRA
- Russian Federation Ex-pats = BRICS 
- A boat... well, this is ZH, so we all know who that was poking.
- And they just had to throw that fertilizer plant explosion, didn't they? = Ex-Military/Oathkeepers

This whole farce was a declaration of war by our government against the citizens of the US.  Like many false flags, it was a trial balloon- and the intent was to put us on notice.  They got to show off their new "anti-terrorist" gear and have a big "win" on the teevee.  If you're scared (and I am not) you may as well forget a garden this year, sell your guns and gold, and buy some facebook stock- then, you can be on the VI sheeple list for reading the signposts and obeying.

Fuck 'em.  Hey- for whatever g-man asshat that skims these threads, put me on the list of those who would rather die behind the chemical shed.  I'm not having it anymore.  I live out in BF Egypt, so I'm willing to think, to fast and to wait for now, but I'm never going to support you in word or deed.  I'll never cheer for a SWAT team fucking up a kid, and when they come to my town, well, we have pressure cookers here, too.  I might fuck up resisting, hell- I probably will, I'm old and getting soft, but I still have a spine and know that it's good for nothing if it doesn't keep my gaze level and trigger finger steady- you'll be beating me to death with my empty weapon, when that day comes.  I'm not alone, either- I'm not one kid in a boat, I have blocks full of neighbors sporting Gadsens and safes full of weapons.  How many millions of your thugs is it going to take to "neutralize" that threat?

 Whatever, assholes.  You took away my hope for a better future- all I see for myself and my family moving forward is more misery and oppression.  There's no exit door, and no way to be free, so we may as well go down fighting- at least I'll be able to look whatever god there may be in the eye and tell the sick fuck that I did what I could to resist when that day comes.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:27 | 3476006 newengland
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The MA State Police Colonel has corrected another piece of wrong media reporting which you seem to take as fact.

The brothers did not rob the 7/11. The younger one was seen there. That's all.

Much of the rest of your comment also relies on highly politicised bias that has little to do with known facts regarding the brothers, the bombing.

Also, I doubt we'll hear an apology from main scream media and DC which wrongly tried to pin this rabble rousing event on patriots, and that urban myth, 'right wing extremists'.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:39 | 3476063 Pure Evil
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It didn't matter who or where the perps came from or what their background was.

The whole purpose of blaming Patriots, preppers, gun owners, TEA party members, and "right wing extremists" is to associate those groups in the minds of the sheeple with these 'terroristic' actions.

This is what the old ladies down at the nursing home are thinking. If these Chechen extremists are capable of doing this just what are these 'right wing extremists' capable of? People easily jump to conclusions and without thinking associate groups of people with disturbing events.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:14 | 3476122 palmereldritch
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+brimstone

The thing I hate the most about going to the place where the target audience thinks (and how the perpetrators get them there) is the fear that I might not get back.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:58 | 3476264 Prometheus418
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No worries on that score.  Once you cross the rubicon, it's not so easy to go back.

Hesse described it much more eloquently than I could- if you have the time, read "Magister Ludi" (I believe it may have been retitled as "The Glass Bead Game" at some point.)

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 13:22 | 3477319 palmereldritch
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Thanks.  i notice it's online.  I'll check it out.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:49 | 3476095 Blano
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Well said.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:48 | 3476097 Savyindallas
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Brilliant post  -who are the 5 idiots who disapproved of your post? Did they not read it? Are they 5 morons in some boiler room in Israel  -paid by the banksters to spy on ZH? I',m sick of the treasonous scum and foreign enemies subverting and destroying this country  -let them all die a violent, painful death. 

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 01:08 | 3476282 Prometheus418
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They're patriots, of course.  

I don't take offense- they do what they think is right, and that is as much an indication of their victimhood as anything.  I was 22 on Sept. 11th, and I actually left the church I had just been ordained as a priest in because some of our parables had a muslim theme.  Better than eleven years of study in which I learned Greek, Hebrew and Latin when I should have been drinking and chasing teenage skirts flushed down the crapper because I was an AmeriCAN!(tm)  I'm still too ashamed of myself to return twelve years later.  I got hoodwinked, and that's not nothing- I'm not about to condemn others for making the same mistake.

That being said, I'm glad they don't live next door.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:11 | 3476166 Godisanhftbot
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 ZH lets even the most loathsome scum post.

 It's cool.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 01:16 | 3476293 Vooter
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Case in point!

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:35 | 3476226 eatapeach
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Almost TLDNRed it. Glad I didn't. HH.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:47 | 3476250 awakening
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An upvote is simply not enough for a post like that. Bravo. :)

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:19 | 3475973 MxBonanza
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So the stormtroopers were knocking house doors and pointing their "assault" rifles to the innocent persons opening them but forgot to check a covered boat?

That is simply brilliant.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:31 | 3476026 dobermangang
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Close enough for government work.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:41 | 3476076 toys for tits
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This story requires me to keep using this quote.

 

"That's some fine police work there, Lou."

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:53 | 3476115 freedogger
Sat, 04/20/2013 - 00:07 | 3476158 Pure Evil
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He probably would have escaped if he had just crawled into the back of a Police cruiser.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 16:54 | 3478144 ajax
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@freedogger: Why you haven't been given an upvote from every "member" of ZH for that BRILLIANT .GIF you posted is beyond me...

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:53 | 3476111 freedogger
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It was outside their shitty perimeter. 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:20 | 3475980 First There Is ...
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We have just witnessed the template for future, nationwide police actions. Can you imagine the response had a dozen 20-year-old punks detonated bombs/vests from NYC to L.A. and points between? It would literally be a de facto usurpation of power by a militarized police force. I was amazed how quickly Bostonians swung open their front doors to dozens of heavily armed jackbooted stormtroopers and snipers with German Shepherds in tow. They didn't even hesitate because they were sold a concept: The State über alles. "In the carrying out of our "duties", your civil liberties (AHEM - FOURTH??) go out the window."

This was the opening salvo, and yet they seemingly stumbled upon it par hasard, IMO. I don't believe this was an inside job (although the gentlemen running around in khakis, big boots and sporting ear pieces were VERY out of place as if they had evidence that something of this nature might occur?) but when they ramped up the intensity of the search and no one protested (not about the $$ being blown or excessive police presence), they realized they could always lean on a familiary boogeyman: Islamofascists. These kids presented Americans on both side of the political spectrum someone they could unflinchingly hate. As much as self-loathing ultra liberal dipshits like David Sirota and Rachel Maddow are probably deeply troubled by the fact that a 30-year-old white male NRA chapter president DID NOT commit this "terrorist act", they can at least agree that a greater police presence should be tolerated to root out and destroy ISLAMOFASCISM wherever it resides.


Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:30 | 3476030 Pure Evil
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Don't get to caught up in all the details.

Just hope they send you to the FEMA camp first so that you can stake out the best bunks.

Once all the beds are gone you'll be sleeping on the floor.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:33 | 3476038 prains
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one day the  layered story will unravel for all to see, it's only a matter of time, 911 almost was the ah ha moment with building 7 but subtrefuge was stll ablel to win the day. how no one really took a good hard look at the 'plane' into the pentagon is still a mystery to me. these stories are too emotionally charged at first blush and need someone to unravel the bullshit at a later date

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:33 | 3476045 Cheapie
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I live in Cambridge and it is very clear that the media and government work for each other. The cops would let the media run rampant during the saga.  They happily assisted with logistics etc. In return, at the end of the saga when the young bomber was caught, the media paid the gov/police back in fawning, overwhelming adulation.

The media idiots also seemed to forget that the younger bomber was caught within minutes when the stay in the home order was lifted and the homeowner went out to check on his boat.  I walked around Cambridge in the afternoon and it was a ghost town. The sheeple overwhelming obeyed Big Brother and stayed in.

And of course the absurdly massive police presence was surreal. FBI, ATF, DOD, BPD, CPD, WPD, staties, SWAT, firetrucks, EPA, hazardous crews, giant media. A total circus.

What happens if there are, say 5 terrorists running loose??  

 

 

 

 

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:40 | 3476068 prains
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means its time to unleash the drones, but the .govs need to bring that concept on slowly

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:41 | 3476074 Jim in MN
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Better be five regular sods to bust 'em.  Hopefully not cowering under their computer desks like useless fucks.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:55 | 3476121 First There Is ...
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What happens if there are, say 5 terrorists running loose?? 

 

I suspect we're all going to find out in the not too distant future. Home grown and foreign terrorists alike saw how to bankrupt America a la Usama bin Laden - bleed us out. America's soft belly, penchant for overreaction and reckless spending were laid bare over the last few days. Don't be surprised if the next round actually is some good old boys.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:25 | 3475998 IrritableBowels
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Watertown was evacuated and placed on buses last night! (google search)

However, the link to the story will redirect you to the bullshit celebration/ "we won" story. Convenient.

 

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:26 | 3476010 dobermangang
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There's another run on ammo.  Duh.

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2013/04/18/gun-stores-seeing-a-run-on-ammunition/

I'm sure gun sales will be booming in the Boston area the next few weeks.  Cowering in fear under a desk with scissors is no way to live your life.

Sat, 04/20/2013 - 09:58 | 3476724 Common_Cents22
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People had lots of time to think isolating themselves in their homes, most with NO means of defense.    Watch for gun sales and training to boom after this.   That's a good thing.   An armed citizenry.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:28 | 3476023 Dr. Engali
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Look at all those Bostonians celebrating and waving their flags. What the fuck are you waving you flags for? You obeyed orders and cowered in the house while 10,000 police and military people hunted down a 19 year old. There is nothing to be proud about.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:35 | 3476041 newengland
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Made for TV, just like the reporting of the bombing. All main scream media distortion, for ratings and entertainment.

It is a show to be seen across the nation, and the world. It bears little or no resemblance to the locality.

Classic psy-ops.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:44 | 3476081 Pure Evil
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Remember the same shit happened after 9-11. Everyone and their grandmother went out and bought flags they could display from their cars. I remember driving through Jersey and seeing little plastic flags that had ripped off the car windows littering the ground.

At that time the American people were being frog marched into war with Afghanistan and Iraq

The same thing is happening now.

Once again we're being frog marched into another war with possibly North Korea and Iran.

Fri, 04/19/2013 - 23:46 | 3476091 Dr. Engali
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It certainly looks that way.

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